YTSEJAM Digest 5162

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: First Met 2 Cover.
 by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
  2) fans-notfans
 by email_address_removed
  3) RE: JFK Jr.
 by "Bernard, Chris" <email_address_removed>
  4) SFAM excellent review from SFK   YEAH !!!
 by "Richard James" <richard@capitale.qc.ca>
  5) Re: various theories
 by Matej Grginic <email_address_removed>
  6) In defense of Soundscape
 by WB Henderson <email_address_removed>
  7) Terry Brown
 by "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
  8) Now that i closed my eyes...
 by "Michael Wei?" <email_address_removed>
  9) Re: a slight light on the mystery
 by Eddy Huisman <email_address_removed>
 10) Re: Metropolis the Album
 by Eddy Huisman <email_address_removed>
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5158
 by email_address_removed
 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5158
 by email_address_removed
 13) OT:  Any Kiwis/Aussies going to Malmsteen?
 by Euan Kilgour <epk@wave.co.nz>
 14) New Kenziner, Voice, Vision Divine etc..
 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <email_address_removed.no>
 15) Killer playlist at Seismic Radio Monday 1/11!
 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <email_address_removed.no>
 16) i fucked it up
 by "Schnipp -" <email_address_removed>
 17) New thought on the end
 by Chris Oates <email_address_removed>
 18) backing vocals
 by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <email_address_removed>
 19) something strange....
 by email_address_removed
 20) One thing straight: Nick's Age
 by Chris Oates <email_address_removed>
 21) 2 Versions of regression
 by "Browett, Darren" <email_address_removed.bc.ca>
 22) Re: New thought on the end
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>

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Date:   Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:36:35 +0100
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: First Met 2 Cover.
Message-ID: <001801bf248f$a4f1da60$0100007f@localhost>



  Lionel wrote:

> Initial met 2 cover?

  Yes it is.

> http://www.amazon.com/images/P/1563891387.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif

  Mark Bredius
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:47:54 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: fans-notfans
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


someone on the jam said:
<<<The greatest thing is that if you are not a fan, the
 album is great, and if you are a fan, the album is perfect. >>

whomever said this is so correct!
i played SFaM in my friend Becca's car, her first listen AND mine - i have been a progressive rock/DT/Yes/Genesis type fan for the past 5 or 6 years, and her music tends towards Metallica, GnR, and some other stuff...but even though she had heard I&W,Awake, FII, ACoS, and OIaL because i force fed it to her in MY car at various times, she was completely FLOORED by this one, much much moreso than the others.  maybe as someone else said in a previous 'jam, the sense of completeness, of combining the different kinds of music, was what got through to her.  either way, she is now out shopping for a couple of DT albums for herself. = )

nicole

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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:47:45 -0500 
From: "Bernard, Chris" <email_address_removed>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: JFK Jr.
Message-ID: <F3476C2D6B4BD31189330090278A744004B5C1@PFCMAIL>


Howdy, y'all.........

[Babs]> I believe the JFK Jr. bit at the end is to more or less just
symbolize how the sins of our fathers, get passed to the next generation<

And just what sins, prey tell, did JFK commit that his son would have to pay
for with his life? At least, that's the impression i get from your post,
which continued with;

>Like the lyrics emply "our deeds have traveled far, what we have been is
what we are.  All that we learn this time, is carried beyond this life" <
Which, as i read them, have nothing to do with the father/son connection. It
sounds more like the connection between souls in different incarnations,
karma and all that good stuff we'll never understand......
Sounds to me like it's mostly a point-in-time reference, telling us the
time-frame in which that particular part of the story takes place. 


buh-bye.........
CHRIS
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Calvin: "You don't think humans evolved from monkeys?"
Hobbes: "I sure don't see the difference!"
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:06:47 -0500
From: "Richard James" <richard@capitale.qc.ca>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: SFAM excellent review from SFK   YEAH !!!
Message-ID: <001d01bf2493$dd90a5a0$message_id_removed.qc.ca>


DREAM THEATER +ACI-METROPOLIS PT. 2: SCENES FROM A
MEMORY+ACI-, East/West
+AFs-similarities: Queensryche. Helloween, The Tea Party,
Pink Floyd+AF0-
Dream Theatre has trumped the mighty 'Ryche once again
with their take on the often much-maligned concept
album genre. In a stroke of genius LaBrie and Co, have
taken all that is good about notable precursors in
genre and made it their own. With nods and elements
that remind the listener of Pink Floyd's +ACI-Dark Side of
the Moon+ACI- and +ACI-The Wall,+ACI- Iron Maiden's +ACI-Seventh Son+ACI-
and even the aforementioned Queensryche's +ACI-Operation:
Mindcrime.+ACI- LaBrie's voice is at his best producing a
mesmerizing melody that permeates the whole album.
Ranging from full out rockers to calm and mellow
crooning, this may just be the best DT album to date.
DT have taken the best of their past and molded into
their most consistent album to date. As to be expected
with DT, the musicianship is breathtaking without
being pure Malmstein-esque wank. Elements of jazz,
fusion, metal, and even rag-time combine for a amazing
collection of tracks which meld into a creative tour
de-force. The addition of a female vocalist (Teresa
Thompson) and a Gospel choir give +ACI-The Spirit Carries
On+ACI- and +ACI-Through Her Eyes,+ACI- an extra depth that is
simply awesome. On +ACI-Through+ACI- Labrie almost replicates
a torch singer, mixing and matching with some amazing
guitar from Petrucci. The addition of new keyboard
player, replacing Derek Sherinian, seems to have
sparked a creative surge in the band. Jordan Rudess
not only compliments the music well with his keyboard
playing but he has arrangement and conducting credit
for the choir. The beginning of Act II, opens with a
eastern tinged track with more than a few nods to
Canadian multi-instrumentalists The Tea Party,
complete with the smooth transitions from mellow to
hard edged rock. +ACI-The Spirit Carries On+ACI- features DT
sounding most like Pink Floyd, with soaring guitars
and background vocals and Lebrie singing at his
passionate best. A haunting piano, that leads into a
acoustic guitar, keyboard and spoken word piece fills
the middle of the 12 minute track. This includes the
dying sounds of the song mixed with thunder and
lightning. The concept of the album plays itself like
an opera, while not taking away from the songs
individually. Like some of the other classic concept
albums of the past 30 years, the individual songs
stand well on their and collectively gel into a
masterpiece. Like +ACI-Dark Side of the Moon,+ACI- +ACI-Scenes+ACI- is
a truly a involving experience that is best enjoyed
with candles, a darken room and a glass of your
favorite wine. Dream Theater are now the kings of
techno-progressive rock/metal. This album is close if
not my candidate for album of the year and would
feature on my top 10 of the decade. +ACI-Scenes from a
Memory+ACI- is one of the top 5 concept albums of all
time, an instant classic. +ACI-Scenes+ACI- is an essential
purchase and it should be huge+ACE- More info on the band
and all their side projects can be found at:
www.dreamtheater.net - MD




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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 19:20:19 +0100
From: Matej Grginic <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: various theories
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I've been reading the comments about SFAM story for 
last couple of days and some of it makes alot of 
sense. I'd just like to maybe point you guys to the
right direction. John Petrucci stated in an interview
after a clinic, that the story is roughly about 
the MAN WHO'S TRYING TO FIND THE KILLER OF HIS WIFE
IN HER PAST LIFE.

This kinda contradicts with some theories. Was Victoria
actually married to any of the brothers? The Miracle
says he'd make her his wife. Maybe she was married to
Julian, that would make sense, but..... oh damn..
I'll just let you figure it out :)

Matej

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:36:10 -0400
From: WB Henderson <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: In defense of Soundscape
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


It was writ...

 >their singer THORNE (I capitalize it because if
 >you've ever visited their Web site, it's pretty obvious that THORNE is
 >convinced he ties God's shoes every morning) make dogs howl.

I've actually met Thorne, and he's a cool guy.  Not pompous at all.  And if 
you've ever seen them live, you know they don't take themselves too 
seriously -- joking around the whole time.  Honestly, how could you pretend 
to be serious when you're using one of those guiboard things?  It's the 
ultimate in cornball musicianship.  (The reason Ryo uses one in his solo at 
Spock's Beard shows?)

The website suffers from the same phenomenon many websites suffer from -- 
it reads like a press release.  They're trying to sell a product, and a lot 
of people won't buy into it unless the band is pumped up to be "big".  In 
reality, Soundscape seems to be more of a project a bunch of musicians work 
on whenever they feel like it / have time.

No defense for his voice, of course.  I like it, but I can definitely see 
how it could be taken as dog howlingly shrill.

Two awesome concerts this past weekend: Iluvatar on Saturday (played for 
over two hours, no breaks!) and Type O Negative's Halloween show (w/ Puya 
-- killer).  Pity about the sleep deprivation though...

Brian

[NP...Deep Purple -- In Concert (King Biscuit Flower Hour)]

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Contact:
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:31:06 -0500 
From: "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Terry Brown
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


> The hynotherapist's voice may be the voice of John Myung. That's why most
people don't recognize the voice.  HA! HA!<

Actually it's Terry Brown, I asked him personaly during the chat. What I
don't get is, I read something on here that said Mike purposely didn't WANT
to write who did his voice in the liner notes. Why would he want to keep
this tidbit a secret? Terry Brown (Broon) also does the voice in the intro
to Rush's Cygnus X-1: The Voyage.

Mr. ProG





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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:09:48 PST
From: "Michael Wei?" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Now that i closed my eyes...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


At least i figured out how the last 2 minutes really take place:

(Warning,real bad english coming on) !


this is what u hear on CD:



--------  = 9:30 - 9:48 = FF on Radio - Radio turned off

	---------------------  =  9:48 - 10:11  = Music off - Walking to Door

			     -------------------------- = 10:11 - End = TV - Drink - Record - 
Death


This is Real-Time:

Notice: - = view of Nicholas
	X = view of the Hypnotherapist



--------  = 18 seconds = FF on Radio - Radio turned off


		     -----------------  =  23 seconds  = Music off - Walking to Door


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  =  36 seconds  = TV (already on) - Drink - MUSIC IN 
THE BACK TURNED OFF


		     XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  =  23 seconds  = Record on


				      X-X-X-X-X-X- = "Wake up, Nicholas" - Needle Scratching


- To tell it in my own Words: This is not Nicholas turning the TV off, 
making a drink and putting on a record (BTW: Isnīt this from "Clockwork 
Orange", MPīs favourite film?). Itīs the Hypno all the time. Listen to the 
footsteps: Nicholasī are fast, Hypnoīs are slow and shuffling. And Nic gets 
killed !

- Did u notice that the suicide letter inside of the CD-case lies on top of 
wooden old stairs, holded by a stone? That might prove that Nic is killed by 
the (Reincarnated?) Hypno in his house.

- About the Reincarnation thing: This might be Vicīs 2nd or 3rd time that 
she has been reincarnated. Nic sounds like a 35-year old man to me. That 
would leave a another period of 35-years between the day Vic was killed and 
Nic was born. This might be the Third time Vic gets killed. Now the 
Miracle/Hypno would be at least 101 yeears old (if he got to be a senator 
after the Murder, heīs still too old to be a working Hypno). It would make 
more sense That he killed himself some years after the murder and then got 
reincarnated. That would make him around 65 years, old enough for that slow 
footsteps he produces(remember, heīs searching for Vic/Nic all his life, 
that might have taken his Life-Power).

Sorry about the bad english but this is so weird and hard to explain itīs 
even harder to translate it ! But at least the last 2minutes should be clear 
now !!

Michael Weiss, Germany (also known as Ytsejam on #mikechat/#dt)

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:25:59 +0100
From: Eddy Huisman <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: a slight light on the mystery
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


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Read the Elektra page. JP is confirming it too and this was after the
veil was lifted

email_address_removed wrote:

> But he said that before the album came out, while the veil of secrecy was in
> full swing. Why would the band give away a secret they tried so hard to keep?
> Unless they want us to think that Nick = Vic. This is one of many reasons why
> I'm not convinced that Nick is Vic.

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:27:38 +0100
From: Eddy Huisman <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis the Album
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


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How the hell did you fit this on one CD?

email_address_removed wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I have a great idea.  I'm
> guessing off of some cues at the end of "Home."  I burned a copy of SFaM with
> "Metropolis, part 1" mixed in right after "Home."  The shaker noise perfectly
> synchronizes with Met. 1, so I mixed it in.  Also, at the end of Met. 1, the
> last words are "daaaaaance of eterniteeeeeeeey..."  Well, duh.  So, I mixed
> the end of Met. 1 with "Dance of Eternity."
> 
> It's great...now I can listen to *all* of Metropolis, without breaks, in
> order, and hopefully how it was meant to be listened to.  What do you folks
> think?
> 
> [eriC]

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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:31:12 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5158
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


email_address_removed says:

<< Just something to chew on..Maybe Victoria was the evil one in all this.  
She falls in 'love' with two brothers, turns them against each other, and 
gets killed.  The only reason we see it as a tradgedy and horribly unfair to 
Victoria is becuase it's basically Victoria (as Nicholas) telling that part 
of the story. >>

<gnaw, gnaw>

I  think you're right.  That [expletive deleted] got what she [expletive 
deleted] deserved for being such a [expletive deleted] cheating [expletive 
deleted] [expletive deleted].

[eriC]

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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:35:03 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5158
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Larry Odneal sez:

<< p.s.  If you don't believe in reincarnation, then how do you explain child 
prodigies?>>


This isn't like _Dune_.  Child prodigies aren't born with an innate sense of 
language and information.  Sure, they develop it very quickly, but they don't 
plop out of the womb reciting poems.

[eriC]

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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:43:42 +1300
From: Euan Kilgour <epk@wave.co.nz>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: OT:  Any Kiwis/Aussies going to Malmsteen?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.co.nz>


Yngwie Malmsteen is making his first trip to New Zealand in a couple of
weeks during his visit to Australia.

Are there any jammers that are going to the Auckland Concert?

And in case none of you knew,  Steve Vai is also making a return trip in
February of 2000,  so get your tickets ASAP!!

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:23:48 +0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <email_address_removed.no>
To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: New Kenziner, Voice, Vision Divine etc..
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.no>


Hello !
Reviews of new Kenziner, Virgin Steele, Voice, At Vance,
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:28:42 +0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <email_address_removed.no>
To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Killer playlist at Seismic Radio Monday 1/11!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.no>


Hello !
On Monday, 1/11-99, I will have my first show on Seismic
Radio from 6pm to 7 pm Usa-time. I will play these songs:
Artist..............Song...............Album
Kenziner            Race with time     The prophecies
Lanfear             Zero Poems         Zero Poems
Charisma            State design       Karma
Sonata Artica       Mary Lou           UnOpened
Consortium Project  Banquet of thieves Consortium Project
At Vance            Die in your arms   No Escape
Pyramid             Ghost              Pyramid
Rage                Beginning Of The.. Ghosts
Frontears           Music like religionPush Pull Power=20
Trivial Act         Mindscape          Mindscape
Spiral Architect    Fountainhead       demo

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I hope you will tune in and join me at the Irc channel
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Norway !
--=20
Writer for:
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Through Different Eyes: http://hem2.passagen.se/caxen/
Renegade Online Magazine: http://www.renegaderock.com.br/
DJ for Seismic Radio Mondays 6-7pm: http://www.seismicradio.com/

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:33:34 CET
From: "Schnipp -" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: i fucked it up
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


hi all,
i work as a stage hand in hamburg. as a dt fan i already had tix for hamburg 
and hannover. now, my boss calls me up says wanna work on the 8th ov 
november? i say, get out a town, no way. later i meet a collegue, who say 
that he just got a job in on monday for dt.
i srewed it up. i could have helped set up that shit and tell you in detail 
what's going on...
but ey, since i still know the crew i'll get in before everything starts and 
take a peek. any special interests? mike, you'll sign my disc, won't you.

on another thing: my friend(drummer) really likes this one double bass part 
in 6:00 (i guess every drummer knows it). it consists of 9/32's. does 
anybody have another recording or video where this is performed the same way 
as on the album? usually live, or even on his 1st video it is played 
differently...

take care,
seb

NP: I just can't get enough..

______________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:22:27 -0800
From: Chris Oates <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: New thought on the end
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991101112227.00ab42b0@objypop>


Here's a thought:

Nicholas has seen bits from the point of view of each of Victoria, Julian
and Edward in his regressions.  He has seen how Julian and Victoria died,
but not how Edward died.

The last scene is him going to see the "old man" from Fatal Tragedy, but
from the old man's point of view.  The old man is Edward.  He is old, so he
listens to vinyl records.  He has an old TV and a rocking chair.  Korg was
right in that we see flash between the driver and the occupant of the
house, but the occupant is not the therapist, but the old man.  The gasp is
Nicholas realizing that the old man is Edward.  The needle scratch is
symbolic of Nick's state of mind upon waking up from the regression and the
relization that Ed is still alive.

     ~Chris



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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:45:50 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <email_address_removed>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: backing vocals
Message-ID: <v04210101b443a5d2a2c4@[192.168.1.1]>


>guess he had a big say in that. I especially like the backing vocals in Home:
>"Love! Deceit! Death!" Brilliance in backing vocals. Whoever heard of such a
>thing?

Just dig deep in rock history, back to The Beatles and The Beach 
Boys! Lots of really brilliant backing vocals, and more.

Some of their stuff sounds terribly dated nowadays, and it's hard to 
understand for younger listeners today why Sgt. Pepper's and Pet 
Sounds are still called the best albums of all time by many people. I 
was listening to Pet Sounds a lot lately, and it's for sure that 
without the groundbreaking innovations of both The Beatles and The 
Beach Boys' Brian Wilson the whole music scene of today would look 
different. Not only did they write and record great tunes in shorter 
time it takes most bands today to put up their gear, their albums 
also had incredible productions for their time, and, maybe most 
important, starting around 66, they started making real *albums*, not 
just collections of singles.

So every time you listen to SFAM, don't forget to say thanks to those 
old farts ;-))

Steffen
--
Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed)
THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)

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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:25:43 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: something strange....
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Julian did not know that Victoria was having sex with Edward. So why is it 
written that "their love renewed, they'd rendezvous, in a pathway out of 
view, THEY thought no one knew"? Why the fuck did they have to hide 
themselves when they wanted to meet ? (officially they were together). I 
understand that Victoria did not want Edward to know that she was with Julian 
again. But why would Julian have wanted to hide? It is written "they" and not 
"she".


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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:27:31 -0800
From: Chris Oates <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: One thing straight: Nick's Age
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991101132731.0092cb70@objypop>


Nicholas is NOT an old man.

He visits "an older man" who calls him "lad"

Even if he were 70 visiting a 101 year old man, the old man would NOT call
him "lad" nor would he call the 101 year old man "an older man"

Nick is most likely in his 30's -- the same age as the band members.  It's
the only logical conclusion.

      ~Chris


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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:19:23 -0800 
From: "Browett, Darren" <email_address_removed.bc.ca>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 2 Versions of regression
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.bc.ca>


First off, SFAM is incredible, I have not stopped playing it.   Congrats to
everybody involved.

I have the CD and a set of MP3's that I downloaded from the Net.   I know, I
shouldn't of downloaded
it, but I crumbled under the pressure of waiting.

When I did get the CD, wednesday of last week, I noticed that Regression on
the CD begins differently then the
version from the net.  

This leads to one of three possibilities 

1. The net version is from the promo album
2. Somebody was messing with  the original version to create the net
version.
3. The Canadian release of SFAM is different.

The differences are :

Net version is 1 minute longer
Net version sounds like some rap-like beginning.


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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:34:41 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: New thought on the end
Message-ID: <001a01bf24b1$14c79a20$message_id_removed>


Chris Oates wrote:
>symbolic of Nick's state of mind upon waking up from the regression and the
>relization that Ed is still alive.

Now, this I like...  You see, I'd like to think that DT wrote a really good
mind-trek here and this fits in real good. :)  Good call.

I hate to shoot some people down but the idea that The Hypnotherapist is Ed
reincarnated taking his vengeance once again is really lame.  I mean, the
concept of reincarnation doesn't include that one is born with complete
awareness (or is dominated) of one's past life (if any awareness at all).
Taking that route is about as cheesy as another "Bridy of Chucky" movie.
hehehe.  I don't think DT would be so lame.

I mean, there's just too much coincidence for two people who's past lives
were so involved to meet up in their current lives, one seeking knowledge of
his past life and one completely dominated by his past life's personality.
It just turns the story into cherry cheesecake.  I know damn well if I found
out that I'd murdered my wife in complete hatred in my past life and her new
incarnation happened to cross my path, I wouldn't have any inclination to
hurry off and slay her in some strange streak of vengeance.  It's
rediculous. Reality just doesn't work that way.  But then, I know alot of
people here aren't too attached to reality. :)

"Focus in on this light as it flows through your booty."
--
KorgX3 feels something other than light flow through his booty.


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