YTSEJAM Digest 5115 Today's Topics: 1) Re: For the next FAQ update by Damon Fibraio 2) dying here by Damon Fibraio 3) Re: Oh my god they killed Victoria... by Steffen Barabasch 4) Come together (sounds like a Beatles thang) by "Al @ Switchcraft" 5) The target by "Al @ Switchcraft" 6) Bend over and say: Aaagh! by "Al @ Switchcraft" 7) John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. by Bert Baldwin 8) Re: John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. by Andreas Skarin 9) Re: John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. by NuGgeTMaN 10) the cover by "Sigit Prabowo" 11) Re: spoilers by Michael Pruchnicki 12) Re: the cover by email_address_removed 13) Re: John Myung speaks by email_address_removed 14) Re: John Myung speaks by Andreas Skarin 15) Re: the cover by Trent 16) Re: spoilers by Trent 17) Crocodiles ROCK! by "Al @ Switchcraft" 18) The heat is on by "Al @ Switchcraft" 19) Stuff from 5114 by "Christopher W. Ptacek" 20) Re: dying here by "TheCowGod" 21) unsubscribing by "Al @ Switchcraft" 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5114 by "Paul Tadday" 23) I just thought of something funny. by Jordan Baker 24) while we were waiting by "Sigit Prabowo" 25) Thank Us by "Manolis Samarakis" 26) Re: I just thought of something funny. by Carlos Andres Alfaro 27) The quest continues.. by "Al @ Switchcraft" 28) Re: This veil of secrecy deal... by "HJ Rivera" 29) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5112 by Barbara B 30) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5113 by Al Balkiewicz 31) Instead of chewing your toe nails...... by Dave Perkins ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:49:24 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: For the next FAQ update Message-ID: On the first Xmas cd, he says something, too. I forget what it was. At 11:11 AM 10/17/99 , you wrote: >4.3.1 Does John Myung speak? > >" No. >Actually, John is very soft-spoken, and in fact has only been >documented as speaking twice. Once, when he said "I'm feeling >kind of spooky" in the Live in Tokyo video. The second time >was when he said "Excuse me" to Chris Ptacek, who was blocking > his path at the DT House of Blues (Chicago) FII tour show." > > Actually, it is three times! On the Beartracks video clip no.3, >he speaks fours/five words... > >[]s Fernando Rauber >ICQ: 2281311 >http://fast.to/frmp -- Damon Fibraio email_address_removed computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:52:19 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: dying here Message-ID: I have stated in another post that I heard the tail end of Home yesterday on the radio, and it is hurting me. I have tried to uphold the veil of secrecy, but I have fallen. I need to hear Home at least. I could deal with not hearing anything else on the album, but for God's sakes, this is a released single, I neeeeeeed to hear it in full. Where can i download it? Email me privately. Flames will not be taken lightly. Somebody, please help me. I don't care to hear the rest of the album, just home. Help me. -- Damon Fibraio email_address_removed computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:40:44 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch To: Ytsejam Subject: Re: Oh my god they killed Victoria... Message-ID: You bastard! ;-)) Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:00:42 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Come together (sounds like a Beatles thang) Message-ID: Keep up the good work! For those of you that are sending mail to to my local radio station, I thank you so much. I think it would be best if subsequent e-mails be in the form of a generic request for the song rather than an obvious extension of what my exchanges with them have been. I'd like them to perceive the requests as independent wants from music listeners. I'd like us to perceive the same thing. After all, I'm doing this for our favorite band, not myself. I think the Twin Cities and Dream Theater deserve each other. Here's the magic address: mailto:email_address_removed -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:19:59 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: The target Message-ID: Hi again :) For those of you that are curious about what 93X normally plays... They have a live net feed. http://www.93x.com/ At this rate I'm going to make MFP for October. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:54:36 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Bend over and say: Aaagh! Message-ID: --- email_address_removed wrote: > What's a proctologist anyway ? Cybertrent wrote: >Ass doctor. You need to warm up to the differences between a proctologist and a ProGtologist. They are almost exact opposites. A proctologist repairs your ass... Wait a minute, that didn't sound quite right. You might just think I want to tear your ass up. *sweat thing* Some things are best left to the imagination... You sick bastards! :o) -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:24:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. Message-ID: I don't see what the whole "John Myung doesn't talk" thing is... he seems to be a very personable guy. I've talked to him twice now outside The Chance in Poughkeepsie, New York, and both times he's been very personable, complete in answering questions, and quite nice to the fans. Yes, he's soft spoken, but that doesn't mean he's silent all the time. -- Bert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:46:42 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. Message-ID: <380A8A12.CD2C67C9@home.se> Wow! You spoke to John Myung??? ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))) That's the kind of reaction you were looking for right? Bert Baldwin wrote: > I don't see what the whole "John Myung doesn't talk" thing is... he > seems to be a very personable guy. I've talked to him twice now outside > The Chance in Poughkeepsie, New York, and both times he's been very > personable, complete in answering questions, and quite nice to the fans. > Yes, he's soft spoken, but that doesn't mean he's silent all the time. > > -- Bert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:51:31 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John Myung speaks... tonight on Geraldo. Message-ID: Actually, John M. did a small stand-up comedy routine while everyone else was doing musician clinics...It's TRUE!!! He had bigfoot do the lighting, Nessie served drinks, and an alien was his tour manager...he's so funny that he makes Tom Green look like Peter Jennings :) Bert Baldwin wrote: > > I don't see what the whole "John Myung doesn't talk" thing is... he > seems to be a very personable guy. I've talked to him twice now outside > The Chance in Poughkeepsie, New York, and both times he's been very > personable, complete in answering questions, and quite nice to the fans. > Yes, he's soft spoken, but that doesn't mean he's silent all the time. > > -- Bert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:36:17 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: the cover Message-ID: <005801bf1911$8f94df20$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> You can still see (well, sort of) the cover on CDNow. Go to the Dream Theater page(do a search), not the SFaM page. There it is ... in all its thumbnailed splendor. Now I understand a little bit about the veil. The boys are being *VERY* nice to us. Everything diehard fans wish for will be there (c*****t album, M********s II, the old font, ...) Oops, did I spoil it ??? Well, the veil and the spoilers don't really mean a lot to me in Indonesia. Spoilers are simply accepted facts of life here. I had to know Darth Vader was Luke's father long before I could see the movie ... :-) don't read, you've been warned I can now hear these words in my sleep : metropolis II, the miracle, the sleeper, julian, victoria, the psychologist ... zzzzz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:05:51 +0200 From: Michael Pruchnicki To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Re: spoilers Message-ID: > I had to know Darth Vader > was Luke's father long before I could see the movie ... :-) DAMN!! I hate you !!! YOU SPOILED THE MOVIE FOR ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!111!11 - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:05:39 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the cover Message-ID: >< Spoilers are simply accepted facts of life here. I had to know Darth Vader was Luke's father long before I could see the movie ... :-) >< Well *I* havent seen it yet!! You ruined the Veil! Why didn't you use spoilers?! Damn you! :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:07:28 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John Myung speaks Message-ID: Listen, Myung is married, OK. You don't get married by not talking. He does have the ability to talk. alright, he's not out-going on camera. so could we please drop it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:33:10 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John Myung speaks Message-ID: <380A94F6.16D3B8BC@home.se> That's the kind of attitude that'll always get you in trouble on the jam. Just thought you should know... email_address_removed wrote: > Listen, Myung is married, OK. You don't get married by not talking. He does > have the ability to talk. alright, he's not out-going on camera. so could we > please drop it? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the cover Message-ID: --- Sigit Prabowo wrote: > I > had to know Darth Vader > was Luke's father long before I could see the movie > ... :-) Dammit, you just ruined the surprise for me!! The Empire Strikes Back still hasn't come out here in my country (the independent Farfromtellthetruthonthisplanet Rep.)! Only two more days until it's released, but could you wait? Nooooooo! For the culture and sarcasm impaired, this was meant to be a funny. ===== *Trent "Life is like a nacho; you can put anything you want on it, but if it gets too cheesy, it's your fault." Me :: listen to music :: Metropolis-- http://members.xoom.com/metrotrent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: spoilers Message-ID: --- Michael Pruchnicki made a funny: > DAMN!! I hate you !!! YOU SPOILED THE MOVIE FOR ME > NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!111!11 Geeze, now my post is going to look so lame compared to the others. Yeesh... ===== *Trent "Life is like a nacho; you can put anything you want on it, but if it gets too cheesy, it's your fault." Me :: listen to music :: Metropolis-- http://members.xoom.com/metrotrent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Crocodiles ROCK! Message-ID: >Just because I'm on a diet don't mean I can't look at the menu.. >I'm still a little torn on the morals of free samples. :) >Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist DTGirl2612 wrote: >Aha, but what if you came across a particularly tempting dish on that menu? Well... If you qualify I'll deal with that issue when the time comes. >Sometimes to succeed on a 'diet' (metaphorically speaking of course) one has >to practise total abstinence - like those who have unsubbed from the jam >until the new album release date. True Progrophiliacs are strong willed. We don't eat quiche either! -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remember my name - you'll be screaming it later. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:38:56 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: The heat is on Message-ID: Thanks people! The Jammer mailing count is now up to 21. (11:24 PM CDT) Let's keep the heat on. Avoid putting Dream Theater in the subject line in case they are in "delete before read" mode. I have my local goon squad working on the phone requests. :) I know we can do better than this... C'mon people! mailto:email_address_removed Let's bombard these pricks with generic requests! Tell 'em you heard the song on the Internet's "HardRadio" and it kicks ass! You'd now like to be able to hear it in your car but you don't have a long enough phone cord to make it to work... Keep me posted so I can keep an accurate count. I'd really like a BCC or pasted copy if you don't mind... /Ammunition if I have to take this to the next level. mailto:email_address_removed We WILL win this one. One city at a time. :o) -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:46:15 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" To: Subject: Stuff from 5114 Message-ID: <004601bf1923$b76a25c0$013ca8c0@madstation> > From: "email_address_removed.au" > Subject: Yngwie > > Has anyone seen Yngwie lately in concert? It sounds like his shows used to be > pretty cool, but is he still any good. I haven't got any of his albums since Rising > Force except for a greatest hits sort of thing from the early nineties. > Considering we don't get many shows from this genre down here, is he worth > seeing or should I skip the show? Though the mountains may crumble, and the rivers may run dry, there are some things that never, never change. Yngwie is one of em. If you like anything he's done, you'll love the show. I saw him a couple years ago, and even though I was sick of him when I went to the show, I enjoyed myself thoroughly, and he put on a hell of a show (consequently, I am no longer sick of him, and just chuckle at him behind his back). I think anyone who has no other pressing engaugement to attend should see the show. 1) it will give people a true frame of reference on who specifically he is, and what we all respect, and mock simultaneously and 2) it'll be a good time. > From: Fernando Rauber > 4.3.1 Does John Myung speak? I hope no one takes this whole joke as offensive. John is actually one of the more talkative guys in the band... you just have to start a conversation. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:45:02 -0300 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: dying here Message-ID: <003601bf191b$2f0a9fa0$8cc55bd1@viper> >I have stated in another post that I heard the tail end of Home yesterday >on the radio, and it is hurting me. I have tried to uphold the veil of >secrecy, but I have fallen. I need to hear Home at least. I could deal with well, you can't hear it in full (not from me at least), but i WILL let you download the radio edit. it's at http://wsbf.clemson.edu/cowgod/crap/dt-home-edit.mp3 not only is it a smaller download (5.4 megs as opposed to 13 or so), it won't ruin the surprise. they cut out all the parts that ruin the surprise from the radio edit, so it's safe to listen to :) hope you enjoy it. it rocks :) moo. -- Dan McCormack (email_address_removed) Computer Engineer, WSBF-FM Clemson 88.1 http://wsbf.clemson.edu/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:50:30 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: Dreamthea3@aol.com, retaehT maerD Subject: unsubscribing Message-ID: >do me a favor please, how do i quite recieving these? I assume you mean QUIT. We'll, there's several ways.. :0) The best would be to go here: http://www.dreamtheater.net/ytsejam.htm Read the unsubscribe information and follow the easy assembly instructions. The other ways to unsub require breaking shit; Not always a bad thing. :) -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:02:58 +1000 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5114 Message-ID: <002701bf1936$d023d1c0$f7c1868b@user> > >(Does everyone agree that No Exit is much better > >than Parallels?) > > Sure, EVERYONE on this list likes No Exit better than Parallels. Please > excuse the sound of my wretching. > Love, Mike (who can't listen to ANY Fates prior to Perfect Symmetry) I DEFINATELY have to agree with Mike on this. I have to admit that when No Exit was released in '88, I loved it. But in the last 11 years, the production of Fates Warning albums has improved so dramatically that I can't even stand listening to No Exit anymore. It's one of the worst produced albums ever IMO. Although the songwriting was excellent on No Exit, poor production really lets this album down. Parallels, APSoG and Perfect Symmetry are by far better releases than No Exit. Only my opinion guys! Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:29:53 -0500 From: Jordan Baker To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: I just thought of something funny. Message-ID: Someone told me that if I liked Dream Theater, I should check out some CD called Liquid Tension Experiment. They said it was John, Mike, and Jordan, but with Tone Eleven on bass. Is that some kind of setting Jordan Rudess has programmed on his keyboard? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:40:01 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: while we were waiting Message-ID: <00e701bf1944$640b5cc0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> Now that Oct.26th is a matter of days ... as the wait is almost over yet increasingly unbearable ... you might wanna do this : "Close your eyes and begin to relax. Take a deep breath and let it out slowly. Concentrate on your breathing. With each breath you become more relaxed. Imagine a brilliant white light above you, focus in on this light as it flows through your body. Allow yourself to drift off as you fall deeper and deeper into a more relaxed state of mind. Now as I count back from 10 to 1, you will feel more peaceful and calm. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6.You will enter a safe place where nothing can harm you.5, 4, 3, 2. If at any time you need to come back, all you must do is open your eyes.1.." There WILL be further discussions on this matter. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:26:22 +0300 From: "Manolis Samarakis" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Thank Us Message-ID: Hallo to everyone!! I would like to thank Paul Tadday, Volker Stephan, Daniel T. Chen and Souter Jan-Michel for answering my questions and helping me out. Despite this Veil Of Secrecy thing I have the feeling that everyone knows almost everything about the new DT album, and ofcourse there are the guys that own a promo copy and know all the astonishing details of the forthcoming album. They might have learned the lyrics by heart already!! Anyways, for those who don't know... one simple piece of advice: Visit a cardiologist (a heart doctor!!!!) before the 26th of October!! Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:01:00 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: I just thought of something funny. Message-ID: Jordan Baker wrote: > Someone told me that if I liked Dream Theater, I should check out some > CD called Liquid Tension Experiment. They said it was John, Mike, and > Jordan, but with Tone Eleven on bass. Is that some kind of setting > Jordan Rudess has programmed on his keyboard? Lol are you kidding me? Tone Eleven? lol If youre not kidding me, well its Tony Levin on bass...a very kick ass bass/stick player.. -- Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:24:33 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: The quest continues.. Message-ID: Whew! Thanks everybody! The Ytse count is up to 25! But something tells me a few *choke* of you have not participated... I/DT needs some group support here... Keep the mail coming! It would be way cool if some of you could send them something daily.. :) If you could, keep the subject :Request. Then NICELY ask them to P L E A S E play "Home." I have a battle plan devised; It's just a matter of time before they cave in. Optimistic, aren't I? And the magic link is: mailto:email_address_removed If any of you get a reply back from the station, I'd like to know about it. A copy of the exchange would be even better. mailto:email_address_removed I so badly want to poke a little fun at Mr. Portnoy.. I'm not really sure if I want to test the boundaries of his sense of humor. :) Particularly when the humor is at his expense. Are you here? /Al bites his tongue. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:04:26 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: This veil of secrecy deal... Message-ID: <002b01bf1971$b03f4ac0$message_id_removed> is starting to piss me of. Now there are 10 second samples on the official website? Whatever happened to "experiencing the album as a whole"? Don't tease us like this. *bleah* joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:24:56 -0400 From: Barbara B To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5112 Message-ID: Giggle. Shame on you DTGirl! I'm not telling you what they call it (although, I'm sure the possibilities could be endless). Ok, raunch mode now turned off. Don't want Mr. Skadz screamin' on me! >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:32:23 EDT >From: email_address_removed >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: Planet Pluto? >Message-ID: > > >So what do they call Uranus? > >>Since we are discussing the "theories" behind the name Planet X, I'd like >to mention that the planet Pluto is often referred to as Planet X. >Just a little UFI (useless f@#kin' information) for you all. >Babs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5113 Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 email_address_removed wrote: > > I live in the tri-state area. I've never heard a single dream theater on any > radio station here, ever. (includes 95.5, 102.7, 104.3, 105.5, 92.3, etc) > Is it actually SURPRISING that they're not playing Home? Actually "Home" was played on 102.7 on Saturday night, during "The Rock Show" or something. Unfortunately, I missed it, but the DJ talked about it for a good 30 seconds or so. I think this is a syndicated show as well..... -Al -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= w e w a l k i n t h e d a m a g e o f m a n k i n d -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed OR email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:09:19 +0100 From: Dave Perkins To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Instead of chewing your toe nails...... Message-ID: <380B381E.4D54DD38@bolton.ac.uk> HI: ALL I went into my local HMV today to pre-order my copy of Scenes From A Memory (I live in the UK by the way) but he said that all stores will have a significant supply of them for the 25th (release date in the UK). Anyway whilst I was in there I picked up the new Marillion album, Marillion.com and instead of tearing your hair out in anticipation any European DT fans should get hold of a copy ASAP as it absolutely rocks, in my opinion of course. The album isn't released in America until the 9th of November but I would really advise getting a copy. Its both experimental but exciting. Tracks such as Deserve and Built In Bastard Radar arn't a million miles away from DT and for an all out prog assault then Interior Lulu lasts a hefty 15 minutes and combines some of the weirdest effects with one of the heaviest keyboard solos in history. Anyway just thought I'd act as stress relief for you all. All The Best: Dave "Calling All Stations" Perkins PS: Another album I (very) highly (highly) advise. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5115 **************************