YTSEJAM Digest 5091 Today's Topics: 1) Yahoo fantasy hockey by Adam Perkowsky 2) Oh yeah baby!! SPOILER. by "Jeremy Kube" 3) FOR SALE! by "Jeremy Kube" 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 by "!Richi Copper!" 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 by "!Richi Copper!" 6) SPOILER by "!Richi Copper!" 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5089 by CyberDuke 8) Engine by "Al @ Switchcraft" 9) Re:Question for you audiophiles by "Al @ Switchcraft" 10) Sort of DT-related - it's about Rush by "Chris Anderson" 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 by Matej Grginic 12) CDR's aren't funny. And Santana by Joseph Bissonnette 13) Johns guitar collection ON SALE! by Matej Grginic 14) Re: Johns guitar collection ON SALE! by Carlos Andres Alfaro 15) Re: Ribbon Controllers / Re: New Creed by Jon Parmet 16) Re: Question for you audiophiles by Al Balkiewicz 17) cheap jens by "Trevor W. Hoit" 18) subscribe! by Jared Emery 19) DT Release Party in Houston, Texas by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" 20) birthdates by "Heikki Kemppinen" 21) (fix) problems with the wire by "Jan-Michael" 22) a tribute to Kubrick by "Mats Rydstrom" 23) kiriwani/ytsejam by "Fran Brennan" 24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 by "Jeff Storck" 25) re: DS by Brian Hansen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Perkowsky To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Yahoo fantasy hockey Message-ID: Hello everyone, I just created the Ytsejam Hockey League for Yahoo Fantasy Hockey. So if you want to join, do it quickly (hockey season will be here in two days) and use the Group ID of 2021 and the password of metropolis. Take care, Adam Perkowsky NP: Nothing (I'm trying to pick my hockey team!) ===== "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- Spinal Tap __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:06:37 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" To: "ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: Oh yeah baby!! SPOILER. Message-ID: <000301bf0b01$938e1ba0$131ee2d8@jeremyku> Hey all.. I'm going to keep this short and generic. I'm not going to give details about the style, grace and depth of the new single by DT. However, for those of you who haven't heard the new single "Home" on the radio, DT has really outdone themselves this time. This song fucking rocks! I cannot wait to get this album.. it is preordered from CDNow. All I have to do is wait. However, if you'd like a small tidbit of a sample of the newest single, go to www.hardradio.com they have it there! Anxiously awaiting Oct 26!! Laterz, J Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major email_address_removed email_address_removed "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:18:45 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" To: "ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: FOR SALE! Message-ID: <000301bf0b03$454dd780$131ee2d8@jeremyku> Hey all, Before I go to bed, I wanted to put something on the auction block. I have here a copy of Megadeth "Risk" unopened, still in the original CD Now box. Bidding will start at $9.00 (plus shipping$1 or $2) CD Now accidentally sent it to me, and I'd rather just sell it to someone and make back my money and maybe a couple of bucks. Best bid will win. I paid $14.95 with shipping for it! On another Megadeth related note, I work as a referee for the Intramural Sports program here at Oklahoma State University. I was checking ID's to be sure that the people playing on the teams were eligible to play.. anyways upon checking ID's I checked on that said "Mathew Ellefson" I said "oh of Megadeth right?" just as a joke.. and he said, "No, thats my cousin" Small world. : ) He says that he keeps in touch with his cousin. I didn't get to talk anymore because it would look bad if a referee was holding a private conversation with a player, know what I mean? Just thought that I would share that with all of you. Later, J Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major email_address_removed email_address_removed "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:18:21 -0400 From: "!Richi Copper!" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 Message-ID: I too think Derek is a queer godly handsome keyboardist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:30:28 -0400 From: "!Richi Copper!" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 Message-ID: Does anybody know the link for the $10 coupon for cdnow? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:43:37 -0400 From: "!Richi Copper!" To: Subject: SPOILER Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Album Date: 1999/09/29 Author: ERIC Posting History Yes and for those saying it's to long to post the whole CD just post one track a day ... Jeff wrote in message ... >how bout being generous and sharing with the rest of us. instead of >telling us about it, why don't you post rip the cd to mp3 format and >post all the songs in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 or >alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.heavy-metal. you choose. but i thinks its >just cruel to post a review of a cd when most of us would rather be >able to hear the cd for ourself. just a thought.... i know i for one >would be most grateful. ~Jeff > >On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:23:54 -0400, wildstar >wrote: > >>hello i figured id offer my review of the album now that i listened to >>it non stop for tjhe last 2 days >>1. regression... the intro to the albulm it sets a good mood and leads >>into the next track well >>2. overture1928. the opening riff tells u dream theater is back with a >>vengence and they go on a 3 minuite instrumental that just kicks major >>ass and goes right into the next track seamlessly >>3.strange dejavu.. a good song it has a few weak points but overall s >>pretty good heavy in the beginning chorus can be annoyiong but itll grow >>on ya. >>4. through my words... a piano intro for track 5 >>5.fatal tragedy. one of my favs on the album it get really intense near >>the end real emotion on this one great keyboard and guitar solo on >>this one >>6. beyond this life.. starts off with a hard core esque riff and is >>pretty heavy..i like this song could do without jordans keyboard solo >>it really kills the song. it would be ok for lte no dt. >>7. through her eyes. a beautiful ballad will make ya cry >>8. home.. prlly the best song on the cd has it all heavy riffs.. >>instrumental sections great guitar vocals again jordans solo is kinda >>out of place.. but its not as bad as the one in track 6 >>9.Dance of eternity.. Best instrumental dt has ever done it just is so >>complex and awesome again the jordan solo is kinda gay but it doesnt >>hurt the rest of the song at all..it just pummels ya from beginning to >>end >>10. one last time . another ballad i like it it has good vocal and >>emotion. >>11. spirit carries on.. is the pink floyd song as pple would say it >>sounds like hey i like pink floyd so i like this song =) >>12 finally free... very emotional ending w the middle section samples >>over top the melodic guitar riffs ... killer ending >> >>ok this is my fav dt only bad things i can say a few choruses can get >>annoying and a few of jordans solos are kind of forcfed into the songs >>other than that it is the best album they have composed it is definitely >>the highmark of htere career and that is saying alot >>and guys dont think i dont llike jordan hes great .. he works great w >>john .. just save the weird solos for lte.. >>and guys dont ask me for the album i have a 56k modem and itll take >>forever to upoad. > Track this thread for me Subscribe to alt.music.dream-theater Mail this message to a friend View original Usenet format Create a custom link to this message from your own Web site Post Reply ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:27:25 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5089 Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > > CyberDuke - The movie you described is "Love Affair" ('94). It is > a remake of "An Affair to Remember." Amazon.com says the soundtrack > is available Thanx pal! This is what I LOVE about Internet and mailing lists! :) You get answer immediately for which in other way you would need weeks, months ... -- CyberDuke ________________________________________________ "What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!" The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:02:54 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Engine Message-ID: Being a HUGE Ray Alder fan, I picked up "Engine" as soon as it was released. I've got some mixed feelings about this disc... First off, the lyrics are painfully generic. My second bitch would have to be the drumming, I find it uninteresting. In the albums defense I have to say that there are some truly good tunes on this disc. Joey Vera lays down a good foundation as well as some interesting grooves. Bernie Versailles is a fairly straight forward, competent, metal guitarist. There is nothing really special or unusual about his playing. IMHO I'm going to refrain from commenting on Ray Alder's vocals at this time. I need some time for this sink in before I pass judgment. It certainly isn't bad, just different. What's got me shaking my head is the recording... I first auditioned it in my van. The van has a damn nice sounding system for automotive gear. It sounded terrible! Really cold, harsh, and dirty. That's quite the opposite from the systems signature sound, which leans towards the warm side. Then I played the disc in the living room system, it didn't sound much better. Out come the big guns! I went downstairs where by big system lurks, stuck in the disc and much to my surprise it took on an erie realism. But there was something bothering me, I couldn't quite figure out what this familiar sound was. Then at the beginning of one of the tunes it became clearly audible... Bernie has a damaged speaker in his cabinet! The voice coil in on of his drivers has been overheated enough to bubble up the enameling on the voice coil windings and distort the form of the coil enough so it could cause mechanical noise by rubbing on the motor structure. I know this sound all too well. I've had to send my Altec drivers in for factory rebuilds more than once because of this. I can't believe they didn't fix this prior to the recording. What was causing the distortion on the other systems was also revealed. This recording has some serious subsonics. More than it should. The distortion I was hearing on the other systems was the limitations of the speakers becoming painfully obvious as they attempted the impossible. With the woofer cones violently being yanked about, there was so much cone break up they could no longer properly reproduce the sound within their intended range. This only applies to louder volumes, at low volumes all the systems sounded OK, but still a little fuzzy abound the edges. The big system smiled and proceeded to give local seismologists something to worry about... FYI: Fortunately, most portable systems have a subsonic filter so they can be played fairly loud without having woofer "pop" when playing demanding material. Engine should behave pretty good on this gear. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:37:52 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Re:Question for you audiophiles Message-ID: Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: >If I were to transfer this to my computer to work on it, is there a way I >can isolate the frequencies of ambient noise to remove it using an EQ? Unfortunately, "the frequencies of ambient noise" are also the frequencies of ambient musicians. :) An EQ can not remove noise in a selected frequency group without removing the music residing in the same frequency range. Attempting to remove the noise would probably do more harm than good. I would highly recommend you keep that recording as far from your computer as possible. Even if you were to keep the sound card out of the equation by using a MIDI interface between the computer and the DAT machine, unless the computer gear was designed for that application, the computer environment could open the flood gates for a host of new noises. >Keep in mind that this performance space is VERY live and the microphone >is a single stereo boom mic hanging from the ceiling that points directly >at the front of the stage of our recital hall. Can this be remedied? What kind of access do you have to the building and audio equipment? What is the microphone quality and type? Is the mic designed for that application? Can other mics be used nearfield for your purposes? >If anybody knows, it's you audiophiles. I was also wondering if you might >know what kinds of equalization I can give it to get a more >realistic-sounding feel. I could send a portion of the file so that you >could get an idea of what kind of sound it would be, if you like. Stick your head where the mic is and listen to the performance from the mics perspective. That's the best is CAN be. Microphone placement is the key to a good recording. I would like to hear what you have to work with. You could send something via an e-mail attachment as long as the file size is reasonable. (under 2 megs) You could also upload it to the net and post the link. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:43:42 -0400 From: "Chris Anderson" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sort of DT-related - it's about Rush Message-ID: I'm sure there's dozens of Rush fans on this news list. Do any of you Rush fans know what became of The National Midnight Star Newsgroup/Message Board. I know that TNMS website is gone right now but is their a new place to post Rush messages (w/ people who subscribed to TNMS). Dream Theater keeps me alive (and thriving, too) with Rush possibly out of "the limelight". I hope/pray/fast in hopes that Rush returns!! In the meantime, Dream Theater is the band!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:06:21 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 Message-ID: >hey, i am a long time Dream Theater fan, and i was just wondering if there >was anyone else out there who has ever questioned Dereks Sherenian's >sexuality.....because i have numerous gay and or bi-sexual aquaintances who >are under the impression that he is either bi or gay. i myself have often >dabled in the art of sex with men, and i from a personal standpoint believe >that he might have some homosexual tendancies, and if he does then we >certainly need to meet. and might his sexual preferance for men be a >possible reason for being ousted from Dream Theater. just a thought?? Why can't people just accept the fact that Derek was replaced with a man more suitable for the job. Who gives a shit what sex, race, religion or sexuality Derek is. The man can play and that's all that counts in my book and I'm positively sure it's the same with our boys. Are you trying to tag Dream Theater with homophobic label? Back off, this is the way roumors get started.... *grumble* Matej, Oct 22nd...*SIGH* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:18:24 -0500 From: Joseph Bissonnette To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CDR's aren't funny. And Santana Message-ID: >From: Rogerio Brito > >On Sep 27 1999, Joseph Bissonnette wrote: >[Question about copying CD-A from CD-R being prone to errors] >> No, No, None, No, and No. It's a digital transfer. > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha... > > []s, Roger... > >-- Thanks. Ahem.... well it is a digital transfer. Rip, burn, re-rip and do a bitcompare. At worst you'll find they're offset as some recording programs automatically add space at the beginning of tracks. As per the original questions: No, there is no data lost, No, you will not suffer from making multiple generation copies (particularly as long as you rip before burning instead of doing direct copies), No, there is no loss in ripping to a wav. There. I think I've rebutted your thoughtful and intelligent argument. As to the other part, specifically whether they sound different, here's what Al says: >The SPDIF format (Sony-Phillips-Digital-lnter-Face) is the standard by which >all data is transmitted from one component to another. Encoded in a single >stream of data are many separate pieces of information including music, timing .. A whole lot of shit I don't really understand .. >creates JITTER, the most unfriendly phenomenon in digital audio equipment. >Sound will be harsh and Stone Cold. The sound stage is narrow, and uninteresting. >Music becomes what is known as: DIGITAL! So I've heard that before, but here he's pretty much talking about consumer grade cd players in general. In fact it's in response to a question about two pressed cd's getting out of sync. I've yet to see convincing evidence that CD-R's exacerbate this condition, although I suppose it might depend on your cd-r drive. Furthermore, a question for the electronics junkies (Al): don't they use buffers!?!?! How fucking stupid are these people that they can't make a $300 (admittedly consumer grade) cd player do what a $20 cd-rom drive does: buffer the data and send it out on an as-needed basis. There would still be jitter in terms of the clock that calls data out of the buffer, but there would be no jitter introduced by the disc itself. I find it hard to believe that this isn't being done, but then I don't really know anything about the inner working of stereo equipment, so I'll bow to your knowledge. >From: Brian Hansen > >And how about Neil's old boss/bandmate Carlos Santana? >Anyone have his new disc? I take it he had a different >guest vocalist on every song. I've heard the single >"Smooth" and really liked it... > Smooth is a killer song, as are a few others on the disc. It it full of guest stars, and unfortunately many of the songs sound more like the guest than Santana. I say unfortunately because most of the guests suck ass. Eric Clapton, Dave Matthews and Rob Thomas are notable exceptions. It's a decent disc, but not nearly as good as I had hoped for. It's unfortunate that Santana didn't just get together with Thomas for the whole album. That's probably the coolest song either one of them have ever done. Biz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:12:55 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Johns guitar collection ON SALE! Message-ID: First I'd like to thank the dude who first posted this information on the jam. I'm now a proud owner of John's acoustic guitar. THANK YOU, I owe you alot my friend.. Still crawling through jams to find your email, but I'll find it :) For those of you who still haven't realized that Mr. John Petrucci is selling some of the greatest gems from his collection at a very reasonable price. Go to www.johnpetrucci.com and feast your eyes on these beauties! :) Grab yourself a guitar while you can :) Matej ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:45:45 -0300 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Johns guitar collection ON SALE! Message-ID: Matej Grginic wrote: > First I'd like to thank the dude who first posted > this information on the jam. I'm now a proud owner > of John's acoustic guitar. THANK YOU, I owe you alot > my friend.. Still crawling through jams to find your > email, but I'll find it :) > I think that was me... heheh im glad you got the chance to buy one...i wouldve bought his P3, but i had just bought one ..for $975. for about 500 more i couldve gotten JPs (highly worn but i dont care) P3.... I wonder..does this mean JP is getting new model guitars? Maybe even a different endorsement? You learned well, through your hell Your Pain was nothing, you longed for more Your shameful heaven is full of devils Just like me, Just for You Carlos Alfaro , Internet Solutions Inc mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:01:36 +0100 From: Jon Parmet To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ribbon Controllers / Re: New Creed Message-ID: Aspect: > Jordan uses this a lot for big pitch changes and massive sweeps of sound. ]From what I recall at his clinics, he said he could assign it to anything (parameter?), just like any other patch. I remember him demo-ing it by first setting it up to pan the sound. At about 15 feet away and dead-nuts centered between the speakers, my nipples bled. Then he made it do some space-time continuum envelope generator black hole overlord edge of the galaxy blow yer hair back type sound. I hope to be able to return to Earth someday to get the implant removed :) Todd: > I would love to see these guys [Creed] open for DT. I'd like to see Event open for DT. Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Question for you audiophiles Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: > > I had a recital performance today that was SO good that I actually WANT to Man, I need coffee this morning. I thought this said, I had a *RECTAL* performance.......... Calgone, take me awaaaay....... -Al -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed OR email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:22:19 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: cheap jens Message-ID: I just found a place to get some Jens Johansson cds for less than Laser's Edge, More Metal or CDNow. The place is at http://www.netbeat.com and they have Ten Seasons for $12.72 and The Last Viking for 16.94 plus about $5 shipping. I'm also looking for The Johansson Brothers-s/t and Johansson-Sonic Winter. Any help? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:42:15 -0600 From: Jared Emery To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: subscribe! Message-ID: PLease subscribe me to the mailing list!!!!! email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT Release Party in Houston, Texas Message-ID: Hi all, I just wanted everyone in the HOUSTON, TEXAS area to know that we will have a listening party on the night of the DT CD release. The following is a press release with all the info you need. This is going to be one GREAT party! Spread the word, and I hope to see many of you there. :-) -Nicole/Kirby P.S. I'm still not reading the 'jam for now, so I will see PRIVATE replies only. Thanks. :-) *************** Be there when the veil of secrecy is lifted... Join other fans for a Dream Theater CD release party Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 7:00 p.m. We will meet at Borders Books * Music * Cafe in the Meyerland Plaza in Houston, Texas (at the corner of West Loop South and Beechnut). We will hold a giveaway with prizes from the band, celebrate keyboardist Jordan Rudess’s birthday with a cake, and listen to the new album in its entirety. For details, please email email_address_removed or email_address_removed. ===== Nicole R. Stachowicz Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112 email_address_removed http://www.christopherlloyd.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:41:50 GMT From: "Heikki Kemppinen" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: birthdates Message-ID: I just wondered if anyone knew the birthdates of Jordan and Derek? I've been trying to look for them, but there's no info to be found. I also want to repeat my wish. If anyone has a copy of the rudess experiment for sale, please e-mail me! I'm sorry to repeat myself, but I'm getting pretty desperate here... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:52:29 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: (fix) problems with the wire Message-ID: <005801bf0b5b$ccced620$102d88cf@jammer> Try this.... RIGHT-CLICK on that link and try the "Save As" feature.... that should download the file to your desktop, or wherever you specify it save to... then run it on your system locally without the delay from the web. If that doesn't work, try it a few more times the normal left-click way... the traffic might have been heavy when you originally tried to hear it.. Jan-Michael %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^ Daniel posted: ]From: Daniel Beziz To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: problems with the wire One more thing, when I try to listen to the wire on Portnoy's site, my = real player does not connect and it is the latest version. Anyone else = having this problem? As a result, I don't get to hear his messages. Any = help would be appreciated. Wilmo Same thing happens to me . it says errors....login fails...and other stuff Any help ? Jonathan Beziz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:54:06 +0200 From: "Mats Rydstrom" To: Subject: a tribute to Kubrick Message-ID: <002a01bf0b5c$06a47080$0d01a8c0@telegate.se> Hi! The complete album title was in the Swedish music industry magazine, MI, a couple of weeks ago, as well. I deserve some cred for not letting y'all know, right? For my money this whole veil-scheme could probably be a tribute from Mike to the late great Stanley Kubrick, I just have that feeling. Swedish jammers, listen to PROG-O-RAMA, this coming Sunday night 0100 AM (95,3 MHz), for details on the listening party, planned for Stockholm around the 20th of October. /Mats * take $10 off your purchase at CDNow * http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-733163 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mats Rydström - Technology Editor & Metal Detector SLITZ - SCANDINAVIA'S LEADING MEN'S MAGAZINE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mats.rydstrom@slitz.se - email_address_removed http://www.slitz.se - http://www.mp3.com/lordrosse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:28:15 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: kiriwani/ytsejam Message-ID: Last night I got to see Ravi Shankar, and it was easily the most amazing show i've ever been to (sorry, DT). Anyway, his daughter, Anoushka, played the first few ragas, and I noticed that in the raga "Kiriwani" she kept returning to a "catch phrase" that's eerily similar to the main melidic line of "ytsejam". I got home and listened to her CD, and it was there too. But another version of Kiriwani (from Ravi's "Portrait of Genius" CD) didn't have that phrase in it. I'm not an expert on indian music, so I'm not sure if that prase is a built in part of "Kiriwani" or just a phrase that Anoushka likes to use when she plays it, but if it is part of the traditional raga, i'd be interested to know if DT consciously used it, or if it's just a coincidence...(it's funny, I always thought "ytsejam" would sound great on sitar =^) -Banjoman np: Kiriwani (Ravi version) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth - Neil Peart ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:47:58 EDT From: "Jeff Storck" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5090 Message-ID: >From: ESPINO LAZO > Hi. How do you do?. I feel fine, because our Drean Theater will get a new >album since 17 >October. Replay me, and good luck. Well, I would, but I can't seem to find your "rewind" button... could you help me out here? Jeff ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: DS Message-ID: email_address_removed asked: > hey, i am a long time Dream Theater fan, and i was just wondering if there > was anyone else out there who has ever questioned Dereks Sherenian's > sexuality.... > and i from a personal standpoint believe that he might have some > homosexual tendancies, and if he does then we certainly need to meet > MAYOR BONZ What's a Dream Theater and why are you posting about it on the gay sex bulletin board? As for Derek, I had sex with him myself. It was by accident, but with all the bodies and whipped cream, it was hard to tell one butt from the next. I'm sure he would be more than happy to get together with you. Here's his home phone number: 407-599-5253. Give him a call and set-up a meeting... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5091 **************************