YTSEJAM Digest 5087 Today's Topics: 1) New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com by email_address_removed 2) Grungeryche by Matt Smith 3) Are We Fan, Or just Fanatical? by "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" 4) Re: Blair Witch by "HJ Rivera" 5) Thanks *Spoiler?* :-) by "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" 6) SLOWLY lifting the veil...... by email_address_removed 7) i fail to see (spoiler? only if you're anal) by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 8) Re: New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com by Carlos Andres Alfaro 9) First single off "Scenes From A Memory": HOME! by Michael Burstin 10) Yes - The Ladder by Dave Ware 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 by Matej Grginic 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 by "Phil Carter" 13) Predictions for the new DT (SATIRE) by "Phil Carter" 14) Re: Metallica on Nitro by Al Balkiewicz 15) October 26th...... by Al Balkiewicz 16) tThe OBVIOUS connection between DT's "HOME" and Yes' "HOMEWORLD".... by Jon Parmet 17) Shutting down by CyberDuke 18) Re:Metallica on Nitro by Kurt M Hampton 19) end of Home by TheCowGod 20) Re: Predictions for the new DT (SATIRE) by "Lisa Centorrino" 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 by NuGgeTMaN 22) KISS sold out?!?!?! by Brian Deuel 23) Veil? by "Jason Birzer" 24) JP tape by Eric Thibaut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:04:36 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com Message-ID: New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:29:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Smith To: Ytsejam Subject: Grungeryche Message-ID: partha wrote: >To Matt Smith: The grungeryche pages are hillarious, but don't you think >you're obsessing a little TOO much? :) Hey, it was fun :) **************************************************************************** | Matt Smith | ------------->|email_address_removed|<------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "It's always been in my head to create giant pieces of music." -James Hetfield **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:49:00 -0400 From: "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Are We Fan, Or just Fanatical? Message-ID: I admit it. I don't get it. The new DT release is *JUST* an album. A lacquered CD with a pretty label containing streams of digital data which you put in your home player kick back and enjoy. True enough, it's music I enjoy *muchly*, but everyone is treating The CD like it's the second coming of the Ace Ventura Happy Meal. This whole experience mirrors some of the fanatical behavior I witnessed when Episode I came out. I know people who spent *Months* avoiding printed news media, TV and radio just so they could experience a completely virginal opinion of the movie. I can't think of any other discussion group that hold their Mentors is such high regard that they go to these extremes when a new release comes out (I suppose a Backstreet fan qualifies, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish :) Can't speak for all (and I won't - trust me :-) but y'all are *really* starting to scare me. Stop it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:48:01 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: Blair Witch Message-ID: <001801bf09af$b2dfc740$message_id_removed> >Well, let's put it this way: How much does total secrecy help? The Blair >Witch project had absolutely NO real previews before it premiered, and the >only publicity it had was broadcast on the Internet. Still, the only >things most people knew about it was some obscure legend about the Blair >Witch and that it was "supposed" to be a real documentary. Well, you knew the title of the movie before you went in, right? Plus, look how much the stupid movie sucked (not that this'll happen with the new DT) - I wish I had known more info about it, I wouldn't have wasted $7 + 1.5 hours of my life sitting through that crap. >Look how much THEY grossed - they made WELL over 1000% profit on that >movie. THAT'S the kind of anticipation total secrecy can cause to >something. The buzz crreated by the Blair Witch was just hype, which is a lot different from the veil of secrecy. When no info is being released, there'll be no expectations, thus no hype. That all. joe NP: Human Race - "Mothership" (fierce keyboard/guitar solo) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:57:00 -0400 From: "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Thanks *Spoiler?* :-) Message-ID: > The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming "Scenes From A Memory" > CD is the track "HOME". It will be available to US rock radio for > impact beginning on Monday October 11th 1999. If you'd like to hear > it, call your local station and DEMAND it!!!! > > Mark Bredius Thanks for the info Mark! My entire life as I know it will now implode and vaporize now that I not only know the name of the CD, but ALSO the name of the first single, but ah well - what can you do? Keep up the good work! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:07:21 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SLOWLY lifting the veil...... Message-ID: Mark Bredius wrote: > "The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming > CD "Scenes From A Memory" is "HOME". It > will be available to US rock radio for impact > beginning on Monday October 11th 1999. If you'd like > to hear it, call your local station and DEMAND > it!!!!" Trent responded: <>> Portnoy sez: If I haven't caved in all year, I'm sure as hell not doing it now!!! That would be like swimming 3/4 across the Atlantic Ocean, getting tired and then turning back!! Lifting the veil is a gradual process.... The album title is now able to be disclosed because it is available for pre-ordering. The first single can now be disclosed because it will soon be available to hear on radio..... The remaining details shall remain secretive until October 26th, unless there is a reason like the above mentioned to force us to disclose further information.... When Star Wars or Eyes Wide Shut were released, it was George Lucas or Stanley Kubrick's choice how much detail of the film they wanted disclosed before their release.... Believe me, there is a method for my madness and hopefully you will all appreciate it on October 26th..... Mike Portnoy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:25:43 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: i fail to see (spoiler? only if you're anal) Message-ID: > "The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming "Scenes From > A Memory" CD is the track "HOME". It will be available to US what exactly was it about this 4 letter word that gave away anything about the album? If a person was ignorant about the CD title (as was SUPPOSED to have been the case!), the word "Home" should impart no clues as to the album's content and, if anyone is going off on some fantastic leap of imagination where "the fact that the word "home" is a song title, and the word "home" is used in the song metropolis, so it must mean met 2 is on the album,", well, that just reminds me on my brilliant analysis that I came up with in the early days on TNMS (rush list), that because the lyrics "activate the window and watch the world go round" is in the song Prime Mover, and Power Windows was the name of Rush's previous album, that Prime Mover MUST have been a leftover song from the Power Windows sessions. (For the Record, Prime Mover is one of my favorite rush songs. and i was quickly dissuaded of that notion above.) that's similar to someone thinking, upon hearing the title "To live forever" for the first time, that it must be an eleven minute long epic/sequel, only longer, because it has elements of learnin TO LIVE in the title, and the word FOREVER....my god, it must be 50 minutes long! In short, the new DT album is not (or at least shouldn't be) the be all and end all focal point of ANYBODY's lives for the next six weeks and beyond, and if it is, I'm sorry to hear that.... partha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:34:23 -0300 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: > New MP voice mail available on THE WIRE at mikeportnoy.com dont listen to it if you dont want your album "ruined"!!!!! and to all of you who listen to it...that clip is just the tip of the iceberg!!!!! =) "yeah baby yeah!!!!! " - mike portnoy -- You learned well, through your hell Your Pain was nothing, you longed for more Your shameful heaven is full of devils Just like me, Just for You Carlos Alfaro , Internet Solutions Inc mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:45:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: First single off "Scenes From A Memory": HOME! Message-ID: > From: Lisa Marie Palma > Subject: Re: The veil... > > > >My point -- ahh... last I looked, ytsejam@torchsong.com is an > >_INTERNET_ email list... We already know DT doesn't get very much non > >internet promotion, now we are just about killing any internet > >promotion! > > Oh come on now... whether or not the "secrecy" is a good or bad > business decision isn't the issue and you know it. No, but he tried to make a point stating that BWP did well b/c of the secrecy, and I starting that using the internet discredited that statement. If there would have been something non-contradictory, I would not have pointed it out. > ------------------------------ > > From: "Mark Bredius" > Subject: First single off "Scenes From A Memory": HOME! > > "The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming "Scenes From A > Memory" CD is the track "HOME". It will be available to US rock > radio for impact beginning on Monday October 11th 1999. If you'd > like to hear it, call your local station and DEMAND it!!!!" Kinda ironic that this was a few hours later than the first post... So what are we allowed to talk about now (well, make that Oct 11)? I've heard the song (listening to it right now, actually), but not on the radio, can I talk about it after Oct 11? What if talking about this song implies something about other songs and the rest of the CD? Anyone? (BTW, this is a _serious_ question...) -- +--------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | In the stream of consciousness | Lines In The Sand, taken from | | There is a river crying | Dream Theater's | | Living comes much easier | Falling Into Infinity | | Once we admit We're dying | | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------+ Michael Burstin: email_address_removed http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:59:37 -0500 From: Dave Ware To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Yes - The Ladder Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CB4B@bham-xchg> Hey Guys, I got the new YES CD yesterday, and all I can say is WOW...! They appear to be back in a big way, those of you who were uninspired by Open Your Eyes (this does not include me, I love it) do not be put off. Buy The Ladder now, lots of rich vocal harmonies, a good smattering of prog. The opener - "Homeworld" is just fantastic, and has a real classic Yes feel to it, and you just keep smiling for the whole 60+ mins. If you can get to see them definately do it, their set lists for their South American tour were very cool indeed, they start a US tour very soon - details on www.yesworld.com. Me and Wifey will be seeing them in Atlanta on 10/16 and I am just a little excited about it. Oh, by the way there is a little snippet of the new DT from MP himself, on his site - see The Wire. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to mention it here, but I think I'm gonna be most pleased. Later, Dave (a UK jammer - still in Alabama). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:04:02 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 Message-ID: >"The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming "Scenes From >A Memory" CD is the track "HOME". It will be available to US >rock radio for impact beginning on Monday October 11th 1999. >If you'd like to hear it, call your local station and DEMAND >it!!!!" > > Mark Bredius Oh damn Mark... now you totally spoiled the album for some weirdos :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:24:12 -0400 From: "Phil Carter" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Guido wrote: >go to www.ebay.com and search for "Liquid Tension Experiment"!!!! >I sell a very cool 2 cd live in Philly w/ great artwork and CDs serigraph= > by D.O.C. (Japan). >Very rare item and extra-cool!!!! Evidently the fact that people responded with anger to your LAST post regarding this didn't register. Nobody here is interested in your overcharging us for a bootleg. To those who are interested in this boot: Contact the fellow who popped up after Guido's last post (sorry, don't remember who it was). He's willing to dupe the discs for you free of charge. cheers, Phil ================================================ Phil Carter -- Usefulware Production Department email_address_removed / 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:30:35 -0400 From: "Phil Carter" To: A Ytse of Seasons Subject: Predictions for the new DT (SATIRE) Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... The current state of upset in the 'jam leads me to resurrect this. I wrote it before FII was released and got some positive feedback, so here it is again, updated -- my predictions for the new DT disc. :) (Don't boot me, Skadz, it's only a joke). :) *** I'll tell you, I'm actually quite afeared of what'll happen if (not when, I refuse to say "when" until I actually SEE the new album in stores) DT ever releases the new album. I can see it now... 1) Insane prog fans (or is that being redundant?) ytse-jam into stores clamoring for the new triple-CD DT album. Those store owners who were unlucky enough to under-order, or god forbid didn't order any copies, will be shot repeatedly, then hung, then burned in effigy. Minor riots will ensue over the final copy of the 3-CD set. The increased demand will result in DT being given their own aisle at every store in the nation. 2) Newspapers, music magazines, television shows, and radio hosts will all go berserk trying to deal with the influx of info about the new album. Reviews will be written as the discs are playing, rushed into print, and promptly snapped up. The first review to be printed (beating out the Washington Post's review by mere seconds) will appear in the New York Times. This issue of the Times will set sales records nationwide and become a collector's nightmare. 3) Musicians everywhere will require a change of clothing after listening to the new discs. A ripple is seen as thousands of guitarists sink to the floor weeping in absolute despair at hearing Petrucci's runs, swearing never to touch a guitar again; however, thousands more will pick up a guitar for the first time, swearing they've found new purpose in life. Petrucci 7-string models begin selling for 5-figure prices. Despite this, they sell out almost overnight. Similar incidents occur with every member of DT; the Kurzweil K2500, for example, will be found in stores as far away as Antarctica, since Jordan has mentioned it's his instrument of choice. 4) Radio shows and TV stations devoted entirely to DT will spring up overnight. Existing playlists will be hurriedly scrapped as stations rearrange their formats to devote themselves to playing only DT music. The sudden appearance of DT on television and the radio will create millions more new fans, who will rush to stores, stripping the already-skeletal shelves completely bare of DT discs. EastWest will enlist Mike Bahr's help in printing new discs to keep up with the insane demand. 5) The week leading up to the new release, Skadz will have utilized donations from DT-hungry jammers to rent Deep Blue in order to keep the list running despite the huge bandwidth cost. The day of the release, even Deep Blue shuts down momentarily with thousands of posts pouring in. Mailboxes all over the world fill in the twinkling of an eye, some so quickly that servers crash and businesses founder. Every jammer is forced to switch to digest mode so they can keep up. Gabbo begins tearing out his hair in chunks trying to update the FAQ, but new questions keep pouring in faster than he can answer them. He is forced to go on tour with DT and keep a constant recorder on the boyz 24-7 in order to answer everything. His wife Irene promptly goes on Jerry Springer (the topic: "I'm a DT Widow"). 6) DT's tour, billed as "The Dream of the World" tour, overloads TicketBastard months before tickets actually go on sale. Dream Ticket is created to handle DT tickets for the tour; soon the Dream Ticket outlet is a more recognizable national symbol than McDonald's. True DT fanatics (recognized by the DT members themselves, who at this point have become so godlike that they are actually omniscient) are given front row tickets to any show they desire. The longest amount of time any show goes without selling out is ten minutes, and that's the show at the new DT Theater (1,754,335,634 capacity, constructed in New York specially for DT shows). The tour continues for years without letting up, only breaking for DT to record the next 10-CD album, which they do in a frantic seven days. Months later, a genuine spacecraft from another world will show up. The aliens' first words on arrival: "Who is this Dream Theater we hear so much about?" *** cheers, Phil ================================================ Phil Carter -- Usefulware Production Department email_address_removed / 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Metallica on Nitro Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Adam Perkowsky wrote: > I flipped on WCW Nitro tonight only to hear the > familiar tune of "Seek and Destroy" (a live version, > no less) blasting over the PA while Sting, DDP and Lex I wouldn't consider that selling out per se... dunno if royalties are paid for that type of thing..... For example, on the last WWF pay-per-view, they played clips of two Fear Factory songs (Edgecrusher--which kicks major ass-- and Timelessness) as well as a System of a Down song ("Sugar")....They even put that MTV-ish blurb with song title, album title, record label in the corner..... Now to say that the two of those bands sold out....I dunno if that's the case. I would think maybe more advertising their material than selling the songs. Then again, it *is* Metallica, and I wouldn't put anything past them.... -Al -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= w e w a l k i n t h e d a m a g e o f m a n k i n d -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed OR email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:46:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: October 26th...... Message-ID: For all of you that are going to be buying the new DT album on October 26th, I would like to recommend another kick-ass album that will be coming out on the same day. Figure kill two birds with one stone that day.... The new Incubus album, entitled "Make Yourself", will be available on that day....Their first single is called "Pardon Me".....They have released 4 of the songs on the Internet, and I think they are available at the fan sites........ -Al -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= w e w a l k i n t h e d a m a g e o f m a n k i n d -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed OR email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:41:14 +0100 From: Jon Parmet To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: tThe OBVIOUS connection between DT's "HOME" and Yes' "HOMEWORLD".... Message-ID: .. made ya look, made ya look :)))) MUAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Andrew: > Mark: > > The first single from Dream Theater's upcoming "Scenes From A Memory" > > CD is the track "HOME". It will be available to US rock radio for > > impact beginning on Monday October 11th 1999. If you'd like to hear > > it, call your local station and DEMAND it!!!! > > NOW I have no problem with people talking about it! :) That's all I was > waiting for. Heh. Cool! I thought the "flamewar" was gonna last till the 25th :) Now we can talk - for 20+ days :)))) - about the word "HOME" and all it's possible/probable/unlikely implications to: - song structure - melodic interplay - effect on hair length - the evolution of Kurzweil as the undipsuted heavyweight and genetically superior keyboard - which members of the band take which highways, secondary roads on the ride Home - does the studio begin to smell like home after you've lived there enough days/weeks? :) I kid ya cuz I luv ya :) Trentoid, the Impaler wrote: > Hm, I guess this lifts the ban on info regarding the > new DT album. I hope this doesn't mean that the band > caved in under pressure from "fans". That would kinda suck. Since you've all been begging for MY theory, sure why not: It was all an experiment to help gauge potential record sales :) The amount of stress was determined by feeding TCP/IP packets into the A/I Stress Engine. Although we're not at liberty to discuss actual numbers at this time, suffice it to say, we're very please with the results. We think this one's gonna be a winner. NOW CALM THE FUCK DOWN BEFORE I FLIP OUT!!!!!!!!!! Thank you and please drive through, we have another superband we'd like to get processed before noon.... Al: > It DOES matter. Digital CAN NOT produce a true sine wave; Analog can. Fool! Of course it can....with infinite sampling, duh! This 20th century thinking is not going to get you invited to Christmas dinners, Al. Stop holding yerself back as the rest of approach (fall into?) infinity from the, uh, negative? :))) Mark Healy: > it seems that we have some babies on board. Remember those "Baby On Board" signs people put in rear windows. I thought it'd be cool to reintroduce that, but instead have an infant hanging 10 on a surfboard :) buh bye ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:44:00 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Shutting down Message-ID: > From: "Vaughn, Brandon" > > Hey Skadz, why don't we just shut down the list until Oct. 26!! No matter how crazy this sound, I think it's the BEST idea around! :) Obviously the stupidites won't stop, and there's nothing else talked about than this ... There still will be folks who will be complaining WHY do they have to put SPOILERS in the subject, there will still be some newbie who'll spil everything out few days before 26-th and he's gonna get public crucifiction ... I would go for shutting down, in case someone cared. > From: email_address_removed > > stop sending those dumb digest things please Here he is, the smartest man around here! -- CyberDuke ________________________________________________ "What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!" The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:14:34 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Metallica on Nitro Message-ID: Metallica will be on WCW:Mayem the Music out Oct.16th I believe, with Slayer (oh god, they sold out too, even thought every Slayer album sounds exactly like the previous) Megadeth , ICP, who happen to have gotten a pink slip from WCW, Kid Rock and a few other bands, along with your favorite wrestler theme songs. Kurt NP-Fates Warning Parrallels "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going"-Doubledrive New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out Oct 26th "I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to past 40"-Paul Blocker Who Has Won Who Has Died (Insert Precko here) Beneath the Remains ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: TheCowGod To: ytsejam Subject: end of Home Message-ID: i was just listening to Home and realized the part about a minute before the end sounds a whole lot like al dimeola. anyone else notice this? moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:14:53 -0500 From: "Lisa Centorrino" To: Subject: Re: Predictions for the new DT (SATIRE) Message-ID: <005301bf09cc$d70e9a20$7020420c@lil-dragyn> >I'll tell you, I'm actually quite afeared of what'll happen if (not when, I refuse to say "when" until I actually SEE the new album in stores) DT ever releases the new album. I can see it now... >cheers, >Phil Phil, that was bloody hystericle! my eyes are still tearing. i think the main reason this is so funny is because the way a number of us act... this seems like it could really happen! :} LOL ok my senseless post is done... Oh yeah, if someone else lets something slip... and it pisses you off, please settle it in private email. Honestly people, my inbox was smoking from the flames therein ;} ~Lisa email_address_removed YtseDrgn on IRC ~ ICQ# 42437079 ~ YtseDragyn on AIM "The ideals which have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:02:50 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5086 Message-ID: That fellow would be me...Just E-mail me and I'll hook ya up with the details...BTW I've had over 20 people request this show...that's about $600 that idiot is missing out on...gotta love that! Cheers! Phil Carter wrote: > > Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > Guido wrote: > >go to www.ebay.com and search for "Liquid Tension Experiment"!!!! > >I sell a very cool 2 cd live in Philly w/ great artwork and CDs serigraph= > > by D.O.C. (Japan). > >Very rare item and extra-cool!!!! > > Evidently the fact that people responded with anger to your LAST post > regarding this didn't register. Nobody here is interested in your > overcharging us for a bootleg. > > To those who are interested in this boot: Contact the fellow who popped up > after Guido's last post (sorry, don't remember who it was). He's willing to > dupe the discs for you free of charge. > > cheers, > Phil > > ================================================ > Phil Carter -- Usefulware Production Department > email_address_removed / 770-424-2525 ext. 207 > Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs > "I never should have written all those tank programs." > -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:04:40 -0400 From: Brian Deuel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: KISS sold out?!?!?! Message-ID: >Then again, if you >follow my logic, Kiss and Megadeth also "sold out." In the immortal words of Gene Simmons: "We are proud of being a band that has never had any credibility! If anyone tells you that they aren't in the business for chicks, money, and fame; they are lying their asses off." At least he admits it :) Brian Deuel email_address_removed http://coinop.davesvgc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:43:37 -0400 From: "Jason Birzer" To: Subject: Veil? Message-ID: Man, this is getting ridiculus. (Should I be suprised? This is the Ytsejam...) Look, the whole point of the Veil was for DT to have a little bit of control over the dissemination. What they didn't want was someone who had it early doing track by track reviews of the CD. If what I know is true, it sounds like a CD that needs to be listened in it's entirety to be enjoyed to it's fullest. I think many people on this list, including Countermarsh, are missing the point. One guy posting a track name isn't the end of the world. It doesn't give away what it sounds like, it isn't a track listing. No biggie to me... As for Andrew, I don't get you man. First, you flame a guy who had a name of a song deep in his message and didn't have 'spoiler' in the heading (tho I think that would have been misleading.), making arguments that you didn't want to know anything about the CD, then Bredius makes the official post (with the song title in the header.), and you don't have a problem with that? Then what the hell was all of that bitching for? I kinda thought you were making a big deal out of nothing, and now you just proved it. Jason ------------------------------ Date: 28 Sep 99 13:38:22 EDT From: Eric Thibaut To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JP tape Message-ID: Hey everyone. = A few years ago, the Ibanez Rock and Play was being sold with a John Petr= ucci audio lesson tape. Does anyone have this? If so, could you send me an e-= mail, and hopefully make me a copy. I 'll pay for the tape and shipping. than= ks for the help!! Ned ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5087 **************************