YTSEJAM Digest 5070

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: Q2K
 by "HJ Rivera" <email_address_removed>
  2) "It's raining on the streets of NYC..."
 by Rachel Goldenberg <email_address_removed>
  3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
 by "Mark C. Healey" <email_address_removed>
  4) Re: Q2K
 by "Toby Guidry" <email_address_removed>
  5) Re: Devin Townsend: infinity
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>
  6) SILLY SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!
 by "Jeff Storck" <email_address_removed>
  7) DT Ericsson tunes
 by Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
  8) useless post, skip to better content
 by email_address_removed (Bruce Forst)
  9) Unsubscribing
 by Jon Kretschmer <email_address_removed>
 10) NDTC -- gotta big ytse-request <g>
 by John <email_address_removed>
 11) Q2Krap!
 by "Bracken N. MacLeod" <email_address_removed>
 12) Elektra website
 by Luke Bateup <email_address_removed.au>
 13) Tour Dates
 by John Tracy <email_address_removed>
 14) Re: Elektra website
 by "Scott Sturdivant" <email_address_removed>
 15) Re: Tour Dates
 by Carlos Andres Alfaro <email_address_removed>
 16) RE: Tour Dates
 by David Dixon <email_address_removed>
 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5069
 by Michael Todasco <email_address_removed>
 18) Re: SILLY SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!
 by email_address_removed
 19) Q2K first impressions
 by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
 20) Here's a new one for ya
 by Brad Plumb <email_address_removed>
 21) Re: Elektra website
 by Trent <email_address_removed>
 22) positive Q2K response
 by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <email_address_removed>

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:46:42 -0400
From: "HJ Rivera" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Q2K
Message-ID: <001b01bf0063$0df6bea0$message_id_removed>


Toby wrote:
>I had a copy (got rid of it).  There have been a couple of other mentions
>here recently.  You may want to check the archives.
>Here's my review from the September edition of Screaming in Digital
>(http://www.scream.org):


ARGH!! You have just ruined my listening experience of Q2K! Now that I know
the songlist and what to expect, it won't be the same.

*sob*

joe
NP: Nightwish - "The Riddler"


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:54:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rachel Goldenberg <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: "It's raining on the streets of NYC..."
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.990916122752.13511A-100000@linet01>


Every time it rains in the city, I think of the song. It's ONE of my
favorites from Falling into Infinity, a cd which I haven't listened to in
too long of a time. Haven't listened to much of anything lately tho, that
probably explains a lot... Hope all is well.
-Rachel


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:08:35 -0500
From: "Mark C. Healey" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


            I just wonder what all the commotion is about?!  Aren't most of you
bored with
this "I wonder this or I wonder that" motif.  I'm not drooling now since I
bought LTE II
the day it came out.  I like the secrecy around the new album.  Its just like
Christmas or
a birthday.  The presents are wrapped and placed in front of you with the option
spoil it
OR not.  For me I'll wait.  I had a opportunity last year after FII had come out
to talk
to Mike Portnoy at a clinic he gave here in Indianapolis about putting out
Metropolis II.
He just smiled and said ' maybe, someday.'  One could only hope.  Till the album
is
released, I AM SATISFIED WITH WHAT I'VE GOT OF DT AND LTE.


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:24:29 -0500
From: "Toby Guidry" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Q2K
Message-ID: <02c001bf0068$552d8ab0$message_id_removed>


----- Original Message -----
]From: HJ Rivera <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Q2K


>
> Toby wrote:
> >I had a copy (got rid of it).  There have been a couple of other mentions
> >here recently.  You may want to check the archives.
> >Here's my review from the September edition of Screaming in Digital
> >(http://www.scream.org):
>
>
> ARGH!! You have just ruined my listening experience of Q2K! Now that I
know
> the songlist and what to expect, it won't be the same.

Well, I don't know if you know exactly what to expect from my review.  My
only suggestion would be if in doubt, audition it at the store if they'll
let you.  I'm a bit more lyrically focused than most people, so that was my
biggest beef with the thing (other than the proliferance of ballads and slow
songs).  If you're more into the music end of it, I'd say it's a little
better than HITNF from that standpoint if that's any kind of reference.

P.S.  I'm hoping that the sarcasm I detected was actually there, and I
didn't really ruin your listening experience.

L8r,
Toby

http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg

"We've been telling the press for years we have an intelligent audience.
That's only to make us look good." - Geoff Tate at MTV Unplugged taping,
April 27, 1992.


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:15:53 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Devin Townsend: infinity
Message-ID: <004101bf0067$2c589ea0$message_id_removed>


>has anyone heard devin's album Infinity?  I went to the hevydevy website to
>get the ordering info for Ocean Machine, and Infinity intrigued me.  any

If you like Ocean Machine, Infinity's a pretty sure bet.  It has alot of the
same thematics, but...  Infinity is >highly< experimental.  Lot's of weird
stuff on it, but it's all nice and heavy. :)  It's just too damn hard to
explain this album, really.  It has swing feels, basic rock feels, fucked up
feels...  Each song is very aptly named and depicts its title incredibly
well.  It's like musical abstract art, in a sense.

Also, Devin said something about his music once...  He said if you were to
categorize his albums by a particular color.  SYL's Heavy... would be red
and City would be black.  Ocean Machine would be blue, and Infinity would be
white.  (which is why he picked their respective album covers, I assume).

So, I guess I'm hoping that DT's new album cover will be white.  heheheh.
Not to mention contains not only Metropolis II but also parts III thru XII.
A Pleasant Shade of Metropolis. :)
--
KorgX3
NP: Devin Townsend - Infinity (couldn't resist)


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:41:53 EDT
From: "Jeff Storck" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: SILLY SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>Subject: put me on the mailing list
>Message-ID: <message_id_removed>
>
>
>Adam Armaganian
>6201 sw 7th ct
>plantation, FL 33317


Heh...  we mail these people that try to sign up for the 'jam a nice 
suprise, like a bag of poop and peanuts, with a nice note, saying "SURPRISE! 
  Please learn to read a bit more carefully!".

Of course, this is probably a joke from someone, but other poeple have done 
this too. :)

For music content...  I ripped a wav off of a Carcass CD..  I forget the 
name of the song...  "[something] Jigsore Quandry" I think it was.   
Anyways, I pulled the riff offa there around 4:20 (heh) and trimmed it so it 
would loop nicely, and was trying to solo to it.  I've found that I'm 
terrible at soloing to metal.  Blues/cheezy jazz/fusion/rock I can handle.. 
but metal, no :)

What I'm looking for, are good sites to check out for fixing this 
metal-wanking problem...  some good lessons and all that.  Some people have 
already helped me with this, but I'm looking for anything and everything 
good.

Thanks!

Jeff


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:43:59 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
To: The Mirror <themirror@egroups.com>, Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT Ericsson tunes
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.se>


I just bought a new mobile phone and I was wondering if
anyone has any finished Dream Theater tunes for me? Please
send them to: email_address_removed.se

Thanks!

Andreas Skarin
Swedish Dream Theater Society
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:email_address_removed.se



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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:33:54 -0500
From: email_address_removed (Bruce Forst)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: useless post, skip to better content
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>Take that thought further...  What if the new album is about cencorship, and
>by asking us not to talk about it, knowing we'd have this extremely silly
>debate over the "GAG" order, we actually end up discussing the new album
>unwittingly...  Now there's a brilliant twist...

WOW... and what if all the lyrics of the album are nothing but the most
stupid and inane threads on the jam? And its all one long song with James
singing a duet with a cumputer generated signing voice of the late John Lennon?

After the Album comes out Mike says: "like yeah, we got tired of all those
stupid shits on the ytsejam trashing our lyrics so we decided to see how
they like it. So we just cut and pasted some of the more stupid stuff we
found and ran it through a computer generated John Lennon Signing program we
picked up on Ebay and had it come up with the vocal melodies for us. The
hard part of course was picking just which of the massive amount of stupid
shit that would make it onto the album. We had the music done in like a
month and half, just bashed it out. Awesome stuff. We spent the rest of the
time in the studio reading through some of the most immature and absurd
stuff we've ever read. Honestly, some of it makes pretty good lyrics, we
expect a little crossover audience from the Marilyn Manson followers...."

.. bruce
email_address_removed


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:19:41 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Unsubscribing
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I suggest that everyone who TRUELY wants to be surprised on Oct. 26th to
unsubscribe until that date, like I will be doing in about 3 minutes.  I
don't want to read every jam with one eye closed, fearful that some moron
going by the name of Nik "I'm a certified imbecile" Shah is going to give
away the secret.

So far, nothing in my mind has been confirmed or denied.  And it's going to
stay that way until I order the album.

Jon

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:43:31 -0500
From: John <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: NDTC -- gotta big ytse-request <g>
Message-ID: <4.1.19990916154043.009235a0@127.0.0.1>


Tomorrow is my best friends' daughter's birthday.  Her name is Tracy and
she'll be 15.  It would be really awesome if the entire list would either
send her birthday wishes or IM her.  Her e-mail address is:  email_address_removed

Thanks in advance (and please remember that she is only going to be 15 ;-)

ytse-yzzy

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:31:22 -0400
From: "Bracken N. MacLeod" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Q2Krap!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


So here is the scoop on the New Q2K (aside from the totally uninspired title):  It sucks loudly!!!  I didn't even buy it!  I had a friend who works for Sam Goody play it for me after closing Monday night, and it was Shite!  I mean, I wish I could do a song by song review for you, but I was so dismayed by the absolute lack of anything enjoyable about this album that I've since blocked all memory of that day from my mind.  All I remember, is that once upon a time, in a distant past, this was my mainstay favorite band, and I
would have done anything to get my hands on new a Ryche album.  Now I just wish I had a balcony off of which I could throw this abortion!

My ranking:
1.  Promised Land    (Inspired!!!)
2.  Rage For Order   (Kind of Goth -- Very cool)
3.  Operation: Mindcrime    ('nuff said?)
4.  The Warning        (A classic)
5.  Unplugged and Other Stories (A boot, but should've been a regular release)
5.  Queensryche EP   (Quite an admirable first outing for any band)
6.  Empire                  (Commercial, but listenable -- saved by a couple of brilliant songs)
7.  Hear In The Now Frontier    (Thrown from my old flat's balcony)
8.  In a Metal Mood by Pat Boone
9.  Every Puff Daddy album ever
10. Pip farting on a snare drum
11. Q2K

Bracken MacLeod


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:43:03 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <email_address_removed.au>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Elektra website
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


Nik wrote:

> So i just looked at the Elektra web site. Scenes From A Memory? Wow! And 
> from just glancing at the track names, it seems to me like its a 
> concept album, and that Metropolis 2 is the whole basis for the album. 
> Can't wait.

No. No fucking way. I don't care whether this is true or whether you
made this shit up - DON'T FUCKING POST IT HERE! In what way does Skadz
have to say it? KEEP THE BULLSHIT RUMOURS/SPOILERS OFF THE JAM! The band
and the majority of us here have already expressed our desire to keep
the details of the new album a secret until it hits the shelves - so if
you're in the minority, keep your fucking keyboard quiet or fuck off!

I hope this idiot gets banned for this crap.

Good day.

Luke.   - wonders how hard it is to send a sub mail to ytsejam-REQUEST@
torchsong.com, just like the instructions say!

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 -0700
From: John Tracy <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Tour Dates
Message-ID: <000c01bf00aa$55622940$2417c1cf@jtracy>


On UACM they said that there would be a brief stint in the US before the new
year and after the New Year the full scale tour would begin.  Does anybody
know if they're returning to the US at any point during this?  This is the
first time they've been on tour since I became a DT fan (just heard of them
in 1998) and I hope they don't do shows in New York, L. A., and Phoenix and
leave the rest of us Americans hanging until the next album comes out!!!

-John


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:24:43 -0400
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Elektra website
Message-ID: <001501bf009a$a8b41140$message_id_removed>


> No. No fucking way. I don't care whether this is true or
whether you
> made this shit up - DON'T FUCKING POST IT HERE! In what way
does Skadz
> have to say it? KEEP THE BULLSHIT RUMOURS/SPOILERS OFF THE JAM!
The band
> and the majority of us here have already expressed our desire
to keep
> the details of the new album a secret until it hits the
shelves - so if
> you're in the minority, keep your fucking keyboard quiet or
fuck off!

And what did you just do....yes, you just REPEATED NIK SHAH'S
ENTIRE POST!  So the post obviously pissed you off a bit and
judging from above you thought it had no place on the jam yet you
posted it again.  Hmmm...  I'm glad to know that anyone fortunate
enough to have missed Nik's post probably got a chance to read it
after your smart ass included it in your flame.  Good job.

> I hope this idiot gets banned for this crap.

I guess that would include you too.

> Luke.   - wonders how hard it is to send a sub mail to
ytsejam-REQUEST@
> torchsong.com, just like the instructions say!

Scott.  - wonders how hard it is for people to think before they
post.



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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:53:23 -0400
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Tour Dates
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


As i understand it, there will be the one off dates this winter, then the world
tour, which will obviously include an extensive US tour...


John Tracy wrote:

> On UACM they said that there would be a brief stint in the US before the new
> year and after the New Year the full scale tour would begin.  Does anybody
> know if they're returning to the US at any point during this?  This is the
> first time they've been on tour since I became a DT fan (just heard of them
> in 1998) and I hope they don't do shows in New York, L. A., and Phoenix and
> leave the rest of us Americans hanging until the next album comes out!!!
>
> -John


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:14:19 -0700
From: David Dixon <email_address_removed>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Tour Dates
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE9F6@messaging>


> I hope they don't do shows in New York, L. A., and Phoenix and
> leave the rest of us Americans hanging until the next album comes out!!!

Hey, as long as they come to Phoenix... :)

P.S.  Yes, the world tour includes the US...

David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
email_address_removed
email_address_removed

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:19:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Todasco <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5069
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Please take me off the list.

Thanks

--- ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> 			    YTSEJAM Digest 5069
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1) Er...
>  by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror
> <email_address_removed>
>   2) New Album
>  by Nik Shah <email_address_removed>
>   3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
>  by "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
>   4) Tour
>  by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror
> <email_address_removed>
>   5) Re: OFFICIAL info on the new album!
>  by TheCowGod <email_address_removed>
>   6) Album title etc.
>  by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror
> <email_address_removed>
>   7) Subscribe
>  by "john besse" <email_address_removed>
>   8) Re: Jim Pitulski
>  by NuGgeTMaN <email_address_removed>
>   9) AW: Album title etc.
>  by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
>  10) Another waste of bandwidth...
>  by "Paul Evans" <email_address_removed>
>  11) Re: New Album
>  by Trent <email_address_removed>
>  12) Tour Dates '99
>  by Trent <email_address_removed>
>  13) Top 10 "Facts" about the New Dream Theater CD
>  by email_address_removed
>  14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
>  by Jonathan D Willey <email_address_removed>
>  15) asdf
>  by "John T. Cantalupo" <email_address_removed>
>  16) New Vanden Plas album 
>  by "Ties" <ties@rattenmonster.de>
>  17) Re : DT and the Simpsons
>  by email_address_removed
>  18) Re: New Album
>  by email_address_removed
>  19) RE: New Album
>  by David Dixon <email_address_removed>
>  20) 70's Cover tunes (I think I'm snapping)
>  by Jim Luzar <email_address_removed>
>  21) put me on the mailing list
>  by email_address_removed
>  22) KISW Q2k Debut
>  by email_address_removed
>  23) NDTC Drum Machine Question
>  by "Christopher W. Ptacek"
> <email_address_removed>
>  24) Devin Townsend: infinity
>  by Jim Shields <email_address_removed>
>  25) 7String songs with 6 string
>  by shams <email_address_removed>
>  26) respect the secrecy
>  by Robert Tonery <email_address_removed>
>  27) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
>  by "!Richi Copper!" <email_address_removed>
>  28) New Queensryche?
>  by Chris Jerolamon <email_address_removed>
>  29) Re: New Queensryche?
>  by "Toby Guidry" <email_address_removed>
> 
>
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> 
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:38:48 +0200
> From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror
> <email_address_removed>
> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Er...
> Message-ID: <v04210118b4057bf2477c@[192.168.1.1]>
> 
> 
> >Geniuses I tell ya.  That was the plan all along...
>  They knew the majority
> >of subscribers to this list have an IQ lower than
> their age.
> 
> Huh? I don't understand this!
> 
> Steffen
> 
> PS: Hahaha....
> --
> Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed)
> THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club
> (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:44:47 -0600
> From: Nik Shah <email_address_removed>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: New Album
> Message-ID:
> <001101beffaa$67367d20$7821ad80@oemcomputer>
> 
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> --Boundary_(ID_nFNXWGkk1p5MuAlIv6E7QA)
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> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
> 
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> from just glancing at the track names, it seems to
> me like its a concept =
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> the album. Can't =
> wait.
> 
> nik
> 
> --Boundary_(ID_nFNXWGkk1p5MuAlIv6E7QA)
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> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:55:04 +0200
> From: "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068
> Message-ID:
> <004b01beff9b$0ef05dc0$630cced4@cobweb.nl>
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> we know things are getting outta hand, we are really
> trying our best to get
> this thing on the road there, in the meanwhile U can
> order the CD at:
> 
> http://www.cuci.nl/~therock/
> 
> It won;t cost 23 dollars there.
> 
> I hope we will have the distribution there soon, we
> are really trying, but
> it is hard, so if anyone has any suggestions .....
> 
> Greetz,
> 
> Marcel
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:31:11 -0400
> > From: "Mike Patrick" <email_address_removed>
> > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lemur Voice's 'Divided'
> > Message-ID:
>
<000f01beff11$9cd53d20$email_address_removed>
> >
> >
> > >Finally, I ordered Lemur Voice's "Divided" over a
> month ago from
> > >MOREMETAL.COM.  It's still not here...  Marcel
> said it was backordered
> > >there.  Does anyone have an idea of when these
> CDs might get shipped?
> I'm
> > >dying to get the CD -- I am really into Marcel's
> playing, what I've heard
> > of
> > >it.
> >
> > I don't know - I have a BIG issue with this album
> (and there's always the
> > possibility that Marcel is reading this - so much
> the 
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:44:16 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: SILLY SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


><   For music content...  I ripped a wav off of a Carcass CD..  I forget the 
name of the song...  "[something] Jigsore Quandry" I think it was.   ><

Corporal Jigsore Quandary! My favorite song title. I've never actually heard 
it, or anything by Carcass for that matter, but still...cool song.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:15:32 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Q2K first impressions
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


the stress of waiting is getting to this guy.....he can't even get the 
band's name right anymore....
>the new millenium of DREAM THEATRE.

As for Q2K, I just got it today, and first impressions have it as better 
than HitNF musically

I'd seen the lyrics and song titles beforehand on queensyrche.com, and that 
hasn't messed the disc up for me (probably because the lyrics actually 
lowered my expectations)

After two songs, I was thinking about how once upon a time QR used to have a 
sound of their own, and they didn't have to heavily borrow from SOundgarden 
and U2 to make songs up.....

the disc's second half is definitely better than the first half, with Liquid 
Sky and the right side of my mind being the early faves.....

as Toby said, RSoMM is very spOOl-ish, but i think QR does the 
psycho-sounding track well (Gonna Get Close to You, Promised Land, spOOl, 
etc), so that didn't bother me too much.....

Overall, i might put it ahead of HitNF and maybe the EP, meaning, it's not 
that great, but after the previous album, it's an improvement
(the kind of logic I put into giving Metallica's ReLoad disc a half decent 
review when it came out)

on another topic (the one we're not supposed to discuss)....just curious: 
would knowing the album's title, or the names of the tracks really mess up 
the new DT album experience for you?

Even if you knew nothing else, not lyrical content/idea/possible concept of 
the disc (if any)/track lengths, nothing, would just knowing what the names 
of the individual tracks are kill it for you?

Me, i'm of the opinion that while a little information could be dangerous in 
the wrong hands, it wouldn't kill me....I'm not gonna go looking for that 
particular info, (although I'm pretty sure I could find out if I tried) but 
if it were to fall on my lap, I wouldn't attempt to crucify the 
messenger.....

Besides, i think we're gonna have to need to know the name of the disc on 
October 26th anyway....you KNOW it's gonna be backordered at CDNow, and you 
KNOW already that record store clerks have no idea what "Dream Theater" (it 
might help if you told them "Theatre" unfortunately), we'll probably need 
the album's name to find it in the record stores.....

just a thought or two

Partha

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:42:06 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Here's a new one for ya
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


        Anyway, so I was at work today, starting my new job when I and one
of my co-workers started discussing music (he asked me about my Iced Earth
shirt) I mentioned something about Maiden, when another co-worker mentioned
he saw them in Concert in San Antonio on the Ed Hunter tour. So I started
talkin metal with the guy, and he was pullin out names like Vai and
Satriani, so I went out on a limb and asked him if he'd heard DT. His eyes
got real big and he nodded his head and began talking about how great their
guitarist was (he plays guitar) and how they "were one band that could
really play". He mentioned that he had a friend who made the christmas shows
in New York, and I told him about the Ytsejam and whatnot. Then he said
something that surprised me:

"Hey, so there's only three guys in the band right?" I kinda stopped, and
looked at him like "huh?" and then explained to him that there were five
members: guitar, keyboard, drums, bass, singer. His response: "They have a
keyboardist?!" I laughed, and then he explained that he was so absorbed in
the guitar that he'd never really noticed the keyboard or anything else. Go
figure, I finally meet another person who likes DT, and he'd never noticed
they had a keyboardist ;) Ah well, he's still pretty cool, and the other guy
had pretty good taste too. He said he even used to listen to Ozric
Tentacles. Signing off. Cya!

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of Anime-no-kai
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house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski 


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trent <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Elektra website
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



--- Luke Bateup <email_address_removed.au> wrote:
> No. No fucking way. I don't care whether this is
> true or whether you
> made this shit up - DON'T FUCKING POST IT HERE! In
> what way does Skadz
> have to say it? KEEP THE BULLSHIT RUMOURS/SPOILERS
> OFF THE JAM! The band
> and the majority of us here have already expressed
> our desire to keep
> the details of the new album a secret until it hits
> the shelves - so if
> you're in the minority, keep your fucking keyboard
> quiet or fuck off!
> 
> I hope this idiot gets banned for this crap.
> 
> Luke.

Well put.  I'm not sure if Skadz has banned him or
not, but that message was sent in MIME format and he
sent spoilers about the album (to be fair, you
should've deleted them but anyway) so if those things
aren't grounds for being banned, then I'm not sure
what is.  Anyway, stick it to him.  Laterz.
===
*Trent

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:34:38 -0600 (MDT)
From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: positive Q2K response
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Well, because someone asked....

My initial reaction to the new Ryche is positive, though I seem to be the
minority on this one.  It's certainly not Rage for Order II, nor does it
pretend to be... they've evolved a lot as a band, and this album does
reflect that.  My impression of HitNF, I should say, was mixed... some
quality songs, but some definite lows.  The sound of Q2K reflects the feel
of songs like Saved and Anytime/Anywhere, so that's a fair measuring
stick.  This album doesn't have any definite skips for me, though, such as
"Get a Life" and "All I Want."

Of course, I also think it's really difficult to draw strong definite
conclusions about any album after only a few listens.

--MATt


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