YTSEJAM Digest 5069 Today's Topics: 1) Er... by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror 2) New Album by Nik Shah 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 by "Marcel Coenen" 4) Tour by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror 5) Re: OFFICIAL info on the new album! by TheCowGod 6) Album title etc. by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror 7) Subscribe by "john besse" 8) Re: Jim Pitulski by NuGgeTMaN 9) AW: Album title etc. by Michael Pruchnicki 10) Another waste of bandwidth... by "Paul Evans" 11) Re: New Album by Trent 12) Tour Dates '99 by Trent 13) Top 10 "Facts" about the New Dream Theater CD by email_address_removed 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 by Jonathan D Willey 15) asdf by "John T. Cantalupo" 16) New Vanden Plas album by "Ties" 17) Re : DT and the Simpsons by email_address_removed 18) Re: New Album by email_address_removed 19) RE: New Album by David Dixon 20) 70's Cover tunes (I think I'm snapping) by Jim Luzar 21) put me on the mailing list by email_address_removed 22) KISW Q2k Debut by email_address_removed 23) NDTC Drum Machine Question by "Christopher W. Ptacek" 24) Devin Townsend: infinity by Jim Shields 25) 7String songs with 6 string by shams 26) respect the secrecy by Robert Tonery 27) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 by "!Richi Copper!" 28) New Queensryche? by Chris Jerolamon 29) Re: New Queensryche? by "Toby Guidry" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:38:48 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror To: Ytsejam Subject: Er... Message-ID: >Geniuses I tell ya. That was the plan all along... They knew the majority >of subscribers to this list have an IQ lower than their age. Huh? I don't understand this! Steffen PS: Hahaha.... -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:44:47 -0600 From: Nik Shah To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Album Message-ID: <001101beffaa$67367d20$7821ad80@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_nFNXWGkk1p5MuAlIv6E7QA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable So i just looked at the Elektra web site. Scenes From A Memory? Wow! And = from just glancing at the track names, it seems to me like its a concept = album, and that Metropolis 2 is the whole basis for the album. Can't = wait. nik --Boundary_(ID_nFNXWGkk1p5MuAlIv6E7QA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

So i just looked at the Elektra web = site. Scenes=20 ]From A Memory? Wow! And from just glancing at the track names, it seems = to me=20 like its a concept album, and that Metropolis 2 is the whole basis for = the=20 album. Can't wait.

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--Boundary_(ID_nFNXWGkk1p5MuAlIv6E7QA)-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:55:04 +0200 From: "Marcel Coenen" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 Message-ID: <004b01beff9b$0ef05dc0$630cced4@cobweb.nl> Hi there, we know things are getting outta hand, we are really trying our best to get this thing on the road there, in the meanwhile U can order the CD at: http://www.cuci.nl/~therock/ It won;t cost 23 dollars there. I hope we will have the distribution there soon, we are really trying, but it is hard, so if anyone has any suggestions ..... Greetz, Marcel > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:31:11 -0400 > From: "Mike Patrick" > To: > Subject: Re: Lemur Voice's 'Divided' > Message-ID: <000f01beff11$9cd53d20$email_address_removed> > > > >Finally, I ordered Lemur Voice's "Divided" over a month ago from > >MOREMETAL.COM. It's still not here... Marcel said it was backordered > >there. Does anyone have an idea of when these CDs might get shipped? I'm > >dying to get the CD -- I am really into Marcel's playing, what I've heard > of > >it. > > I don't know - I have a BIG issue with this album (and there's always the > possibility that Marcel is reading this - so much the better). > > This used to be $15.99 at Moremetal. Now it's like $22.99 (or close to > that - I'm too lazy to go look right now). $23 is not going to empty my > bank account, but as much as I love LV, I'm not buying it. If the band is > holding out for a U.S. deal, great. But in the meantime, don't inflate the > price of the album to the point where your fans are unwilling to buy it. > Well, I don't mean to imply that this was done intentionally, but when I can > go to any number of online vendors and get similar imports in the $12-$15 > range, it's frustrating to pass on something I REALLY want. > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:48:54 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror To: Ytsejam Subject: Tour Message-ID: Neil Gallop: >Returning to reality briefly, German music fans are >in for a treat in November, with Anathema touring >as the support act for Tiamat - promises to be a >good night. Well, I believe seeing DT on tour this month would be even more promising, wouldn't it? Go to UACM or your favorite fan club site to see the tour dates :-) Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: TheCowGod To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: OFFICIAL info on the new album! Message-ID: > Subject: OFFICIAL info on the new album! > > > Hi there. > > Now it's official, so I guess I may post it here ... > Check out the discography at > http://www.onceinalivetime.com > for the title and the tracklisting of the new album. you know what? fuck record labels. i'm pretty sure they're either completely wrong, or they just leaked somethign the band didnt want anyone to know. and i, like a fool, checked it out, so its basically spoiled for me. i reccommend you dont go look at that page if you want to keep the surprise. although that post from someone else replying to this email might have already done it... assuming oif course that elektra knows DT's tracklist. i think it'll be appreciated by most if no one in the know confirms or denies its veracity... but thats just me. moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:16:16 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror To: Ytsejam Subject: Album title etc. Message-ID: >Now it's official, so I guess I may post it here ... >Check out the discography at >http://www.onceinalivetime.com >for the title and the tracklisting of the new album. You must be wrong, I can't find it there. Steffen PS: Would have been too easy, wouldn't it? ;-)) -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:18:43 PDT From: "john besse" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subscribe Message-ID: Please subscribe me to the Dream Theater Ytsejam mailing list. Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:25:39 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jim Pitulski Message-ID: Another little tidbit...DT stuck with Rob...Kevin went with Jim...dunno if the two are still working together though hitomi iwai wrote: > > Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror > wrote: > > >>got the following from Jim Pitulski (DTC, but i > don't recall the > >>connection....anyone wanna fill me in?) > > > >He was DT's manager together with Rob Shore till late > '94. > > Just a short note... I guess Jim worked with Rob till > '95. I remember Jim came to Japan with DT in January > of '95..... When DT guys came to Japan again in > October '95, Mike said that story what you wrote. I > don't know its exact date when Jim and Rob decided to > work separately, but perhaps that happened in the > summer or the early fall of 4 years ago. > > Hitomi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:39:45 +0200 From: Michael Pruchnicki To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: AW: Album title etc. Message-ID: >http://www.onceinalivetime.com > > You must be wrong, I can't find it there. > > Steffen > > PS: Would have been too easy, wouldn't it? ;-)) Dunno. I don't know what to think about this, now that Elektra removed the info again (don't blame me, I wasn't joking, as that other post proves). Maybe DT should try to get at least their most official partners to do what they are supposed to do. I hate this secrecy nonsense, anyway. It's not like the album gets better if you learn all about the title and the song names when you buy it on October 26th. Bye, Mike -- "What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?" -- Michael Pruchnicki Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone, Sega Magazin mlpruchnicki@computec.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:42:19 -0700 From: "Paul Evans" To: Subject: Another waste of bandwidth... Message-ID: <003201beffa1$ab3446a0$message_id_removed> Vince French wrote: >You people have your heads so far up your asses discussing the most idiotic >thing I have seen people discuss in a long time, that you have all forgotten >about discussing the new album... Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You're >discussing *about* discussing the new album! MOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. >Geniuses I tell ya. That was the plan all along... Take that thought further... What if the new album is about cencorship, and by asking us not to talk about it, knowing we'd have this extremely silly debate over the "GAG" order, we actually end up discussing the new album unwittingly... Now there's a brilliant twist... For those missing a knack for the obvious, I'm completely full of shit... Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:58:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Album Message-ID: --- Nik Shah wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > So i just looked at the Elektra web site. << title deleted>>>? Wow! Hm, I wonder what got this guy kicked off the 'jam first: the MIME or the album spoiler (which I deleted). Either way, hope you banned this guy Skadz. MIME sucks and he should've known better than to post the album title here. === *Trent Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/cybertrent "Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:01:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tour Dates '99 Message-ID: Straight off UACM (and this contains no potential spoiler stuff, so spoiler shy people have no fear). Mon November 8 - Docks - Hamburg, Germany Tues November 9 - Capitol - Hannover, Germany Thurs November 11 - Ijssehal - Zwolle, Netherlands Fri November 12 - Anetenne Belgique - Brussels, Belgium Sun November 14 - Palladium - Koln, Germany Mon November 15 - Forum - Nurnberg, Germany Wed November 17 - Volkshaus - Zurich, Switzerland Thurs November 18 - Colosseum - Munich, Germany Fri November 19 - Filaforum - Milan, Italy Sun November 21 - Transbordeur - Lyon, France Mon November 22 - Forum - Stuttgart, Germany Wed November 24 - Elysee Montmartre - Paris, France "Please note that dates & venues are still subject to change. Also note that this is a very brief tour of only select cities in order to get some shows under our belt before the New Year. We will likely do a brief US tour of select cities in December and then begin the extensive full-scale World Tour in January 2000." === *Trent Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/cybertrent "Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:06:58 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Top 10 "Facts" about the New Dream Theater CD Message-ID: With apologizes to David Letterman... THE TOP TEN "FACTS" ABOUT THE NEW DREAM THEATER CD 10) Everyone's favorite ex-member has returned-No, not Kevin. Charlie Dominici will return to sing a DT-style cover of an Elton John classic-"Ytse in the Wind '99" 9) Due to a case of carpel-tunnel syndrome, Jordan's parts have been overdubbed by the bassist from Semisonic- Unfortunately, this means all DT keyboard parts will consist of the "Closing Time" riff. 8) Mike Portnoy has switched over to the all-electronic, one-armed drum kit made popular by Def Leppard drummer Rick Allen. 7) The opening act on the upcoming tour- Jewel, backed by "The James LeBrie Yodeling Caribou Singers". 6) NIN frontman Trent Reznor will join DT on a new rendition of the anti-MTV, anti-rock star track "Just Let Me Whine". 5) John Petrucci plays 32nd notes throughout the entire 78 minute CD 4) John Myung has returned to the Stick- Not the Chapman Stick, but a large oak rod, which he will use to beat John P. senseless after playing 78 minutes of 32nd notes. 3) The band will tackle the touchy subject of drug abuse in the sequel to "The Mirror", entitled "The Medicine Cabinet [NyQuil and Hemorrhoid cream]" 2) DT is joined by superstar-of-the-moment Kid Rock for the 25 minute epic "Badwitdaba part II- The Miracle and the White-Trash Rapper" ..and the number one "fact" about the new Dream Theater CD.... It's not coming out until 2002! Folks, if we don't try to have a little fun with this, we'll all go insane soon. *scarred* also- a list of which songs JP plays 7-string; Caught in a Web The Mirror (first song written on 7-string) Lie ACOS Perfect Strangers New Millennium Just Let Me Breathe Acid Rain [They closed Wolf's Deli?] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:17:40 -0500 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 Message-ID: Hey folks, This is my first post... I am interested in getting the Five years video and the old and new portnoy vid. If someone can tell me the chapest place online to buy them i would love it!!! thanks, Jonathan Willey A.T.,C. Washington State Athletic Medicine Pullman, WA 99163 Psalm 27:1 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! 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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEFF90.34829860-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:11:21 +0200 From: "Ties" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Vanden Plas album Message-ID: I just uploaded some mp3 samples from the new Vanden Plas album "Far Off Grace" to http://www.vandenplas.de . Come take a listen!! Ties -- Vanden Plas - The Web Thing: http://www.vandenplas.de Progressive Genius Webring: http://www.progmetal.org/ring/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:57:06 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re : DT and the Simpsons Message-ID: I just said that some parts of Biaxident sounded like the theme of the Simpsons. SebasT http://members.aol.com/sebast87/page1.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:08:54 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Album Message-ID: >< So i just looked at the Elektra web site. (edit) Wow! And from just glancing at the track names, it seems to me like its a (edit), and that (edit) is the whole basis for the album. Can't wait. >< You get the idea. I don't believe these idiots at Elektra did that. I haven't actually gone to the site to see it, so maybe this person was lying. It's tempting to check out elektra.com, but I won't do it. As always, it's the label that ruins everything. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:26:35 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: New Album Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE9EA@messaging> > You get the idea. I don't believe these idiots at Elektra did that. I haven't > actually gone to the site to see it, so maybe this person was lying. It's > tempting to check out elektra.com, but I won't do it. As always, it's the > label that ruins everything. I saw the thing on the Elektra website, and he wasn't lying. When I went back to look a second time, it was gone. Of course I'm not telling what it said, because I'll leave that to official channels when they feel the info SHOULD be released. I'm starting to wonder if it was a joke or hack job just to piss us all off... :) David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:11:30 -0500 From: Jim Luzar To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 70's Cover tunes (I think I'm snapping) Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:39:59 -0500 > From: "Al @ Switchcraft" > To: retaehT maerD > Subject: I think I'm snapping > Message-ID: > > I think I've gone off the deep end... :) Yes you have Al. You have too much time on your hands as well. *smirk* >I've conjured up possibly the strangest, yet cool, cover of a tune ever >conceived. Unfortunately, most of the crowd here couldn't begin to >understand this unless you are familiar with the original material, >which is unlikely if you're under 35 years old. (With the exception of >those of you younger Jamsters that were tortured as children having to >listen to the "Oldies" Stations at the hands of a parent that refused >to acknowledge the fact that music has progressed since the 'Ol high >school days) My Dad had old James Gang records. And bands similar to that. > > Having said that... > >I was watching late night television and seen a commercial for one of >those 70's compilation CD's. I forget the name... Anyway, as I'm >reliving my childhood (though the magic of infomercials) a tune I was >once fond of came roaring through the speakers... Smokey Robinson's >"Tears Of A Clown." Just then, a strange thought overcame me... This >would be a cool tune to cover. My first thought was: Dream Theater! My >second thought was: I gotta quit smoking this shit. Anyway... I >quickly dispelled the DT idea, but then I thought, what about Fates >Warning? Yes! This could be cool. Actually, how about DT doing "Brick House"? I would like to hear what John Myung would do with a groove like that! I can only imagine. >For those of you brave enough to attempt assembling this in your head, >I wish to challenge the stability of your mental health. I lost mine years ago. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Al's brain is slowly being dissolved by methane emissions of unknown > origin. Interrogatories will be directed at this rather guilty looking > Rottweiler lounging on the floor beside his chair. Put the dog outside Al, and save yourself. Jim The hack bassist. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:13:26 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: put me on the mailing list Message-ID: Adam Armaganian 6201 sw 7th ct plantation, FL 33317 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:51:59 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: KISW Q2k Debut Message-ID: Hello Jammers Does anyone have the KISW Seattle Q2K debut on tape ? Or the one released on the album network ? (Which I think is the same thing) If so, I would like to trade for a copy....E-mail me privately if you can help.....I have extensive Dream Theater/Queensryche material.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:46:03 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" To: Subject: NDTC Drum Machine Question Message-ID: <000901befff6$00fa6480$033ca8c0@madstation> Hey folks!, Sorry to waste space here... I would like to request that anyone who owns a DR-5 drum machine, who either knows how to do a sysex dump (using any program on a PC) or who has the manual and can locate this info, PLEASE mail me PRIVATELY, at the address below. I lost my manual, and don't want to lose these tunes! Thanks! Chris Ptacek - email_address_removed "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:01:51 -0500 From: Jim Shields To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Devin Townsend: infinity Message-ID: has anyone heard devin's album Infinity? I went to the hevydevy website to get the ordering info for Ocean Machine, and Infinity intrigued me. any reviews? Jim Shields Guitar/vocals - Room 213 (www.room213.com) Now Officially a Radio-TV-Film Student! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:23:05 +0600 From: shams To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 7String songs with 6 string Message-ID: hi all, In the midst of waiting for the new album.....I just got myself a digitech RP10. it's kinda neat thing. I was wondering, has anyone tried to play the Lie solo using the whammy. y'know, start with the whammy down to a 5th (B) on low E string and go up to 4th string (which will be A on a 7 string guitar) and then pull the whammy up and start the rest of the solo from 4th string as D. (As I read this...I myself is confused so please forgive me) Well I've first got to pick up the solo first (at least try to), kinda lost my faith in tabs, may be I'll cheat when I get stuck :) -Shams ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:23:16 -0400 From: Robert Tonery To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: respect the secrecy Message-ID: I would like to let anyone who truly wants to enjoy the new album to know that they should just wait and pick up the disc on the 26th without any previews or preconceptions. I bought LTE1 without any knowledge about it except the band line-up and it has become one of my favorite albums. I was lucky enough to catch LTE at the Bowery Ballroom (the first one of their 4 exclusive shows on their only tour thus far) and they were absolutely amazing. Now that Jordan is part of DT, I can't see how anyone could have a problem with the band's wishes of secrecy. This will be the best line-up of DT yet, so keep the faith and honor the band by being patient for the new millenium of DREAM THEATRE. Rob Tonery ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:55:57 EDT From: "!Richi Copper!" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5068 Message-ID: Well, weel, look at all the fuss the "cruel" talk restrictions did? I have a suggestion: instead of spending all day trying digging out any news on the new album, or creating mysterious e-mail on hotmail and posting a bunch of crap here toward Skadz and all who support the demand for no-talks - TRY LIVING A LIFE!!!! It just amazes me how much time some folks spend talking rubbish here! We don't need your theories on how mailing list should look like, what we owe or not owe to the band, or whether Skadz or other close to the band want to show off by keeping details! Geez, what a sick twisted mind to come with that conclusions! :( Not having infos - big deal! Are you some spoiled adolescent who just can't sit still and just GOTTA finds out anything? Geez! Do you do ANYTHING else in your life??? - WHO'S SICK AND TWISTED? Just don't think about it and the time will pass fast enough, ya won't even notice it. Get a job, grab the books, practice your instrument, live a life, don't be a moron. -Yeah, who is the moron? Who has nothing better to do than fire off on mailing lists? This is Ytsejam, a discussion about DT. -Hey dude, we just want to know about the new album Go To WWW.IMPORTEDMUSIC.COM for EURO/JAPAN versions of CD's. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:30:33 -0400 From: Chris Jerolamon To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Queensryche? Message-ID: Who here has it? Is anyone going to post a review? I know it will most likely be a negative review, but I'm still curious. -- Chris Jerolamon email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:58:25 -0500 From: "Toby Guidry" To: Subject: Re: New Queensryche? Message-ID: <01d801bf005c$4f9d66d0$message_id_removed> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Chris Jerolamon To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 10:35 AM Subject: New Queensryche? > > Who here has it? Is anyone going to post a review? I know it will most > likely be a negative review, but I'm still curious. I had a copy (got rid of it). There have been a couple of other mentions here recently. You may want to check the archives. To put it in perspective, here's how I rank the rest of their catalog: 1. Operation:Mindcrime 2. Rage For Order 3. The Warning 4. Queensryche EP 5. Promised Land 6. Empire 7. Hear In The Now Frontier 8. Q2K Here's my review from the September edition of Screaming in Digital (http://www.scream.org): Q2K Toby Guidry (email_address_removed) I think I've subjected myself to this thing enough to give it a review. Hold onto your seats, boys and girls - this is bound to upset some of you, and make others laugh. Whichever it does, it's just this reviewer's opinion, so that and a buck and change might get you a cup of coffee somewhere. My first impressions was, "The only other album to have this effect on me was Britny Fox's Boys in Heat." The effect? "How long is this damned album? Hearing this depresses me somewhat." Rating Scale : 0 or less * - I'll tell you specifically how bad if it's this bad. ;^) * - Not good ** - Fair to Poor *** - Good but not great **** - Very Good ***** - You gotta hear this! Falling Down ** - The only thing I like about this song is Rockenfield's drumming. The guitar work is okay, but not very original. The chorus makes me physically ill. One Life ** - I can see why they renamed this song from One. They practically ripped off the opening from U2's With Or Without You, and probably didn't want to get into a dispute over the title of another U2 song. This song plods along like a man mired in quicksand. I think they should market this one as an insomnia cure. As a matter of fact, I almost felll;iusgag8hyagroeghr zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Sorry about that - I seem to have fallen asleep on my keyboard. Let me rewind this thing so I can finish the review. Sacred Ground * - This song depresses me. Anytime/Anywhere part II, except worse. When The Rain Comes *** - Another slow song? Okay, they're definitely trying to hit their next Silent Lucidity, it seems. Unfortunately, there's something missing... what is it? Oh yeah... DeGarmo! ;) But seriously, this song is okay for what it is. How Could I ** - What the fuck is it with the slow songs? Where's that fast forward button? Beside You ** - Oh boy, another plodding song. Another Silent Ludicity wannabe. Um, haven't we been there, done that? Hmm... new genre? Regressive Rock? Liquid Sky *** - Hmm... interesting riff to start with. Too much vocal processing for my tastes, but overall an okay song. Put some good lyrics on this song and it would be worthy of the 'Ryche's past efforts. They should have left off the "Always hearing voices" thing at the end, though. Breakdown ** - This is their first single? For some reason, this song reminds me of Stone Temple Pilots musically. "One time a thing occurred to me. What's real and what's for sale?" Burning Man ** - Why the hell did they have to ruin this song with these lame lyrics? This music had some great potential. Were it not for the music, this would have been negative *'s. With some good lyrics, this could have been 4 or 5 *'s. Fast paced and a good beat, but "burning man... burning man... burning man?" This chorus goes right up there with Get A Life for songs that make me want to pimpslap somebody. Wot Kinda Man (or whatever title it's going by this week) * - This song joins Burning Man for the hated chorus category. Unfortunately, this one doesn't have the music to carry it. Right Side Of My Mind *** - sp00L part II. Very similar to sp00L in my opinion musically. Not a bad song, but again, been there, done that, and with better lyrics last time. Okay, let's see. By the way it looks, this is a ** album (fair to poor). That puts it at the bottom of the pile out of the 'Ryche catalog for me. Hear in the Now Frontier slightly edges it out because of lyrical quality. It doesn't even come close to anything else. If this is the Queensryche of tomorrow, I'm running the other way. HTH, Toby http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg "We've been telling the press for years we have an intelligent audience. That's only to make us look good." - Geoff Tate at MTV Unplugged taping, April 27, 1992. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5069 **************************