YTSEJAM Digest 5061 Today's Topics: 1) The Black Album? by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" 2) Re: Scenes from a Memory ? by Trent 3) Re: New album cover? by "SirotilC" 4) Win the Game by "Peter" 5) Rumors... by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror 6) Producers by "Ed Wilk" 7) UNLIMITED LENGTHS & IRREGULAR SHAPES ! by email_address_removed 8) Re: The >real< new album cover? by Amanda Rosenblum 9) whatup? by Jim Shields 10) question on cd length by "email_address_removed.au" 11) Re: question on cd length by Trent 12) Sales Figures by Trent 13) JPM100 guitar on Ebay by Vince LuPone 14) Re: New Dreamscape CD by Peter Geerts 15) New DT! by "Al @ Switchcraft" 16) Re: question on cd length by "Josh Calkin" 17) Re: question on cd length by Andrew Coutermarsh 18) AW: New DT! by Michael Pruchnicki 19) Re: Megadeth drummers by Rogerio Brito 20) Re: question on cd length by "TheCowGod" 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5060 by "Pat Sullivan" 22) New Michael Kiske anybody? by Alexis Ramos 23) Varied reactions by Paul Weiss 24) FZ cover, heh by CyberDuke 25) Re: question on cd length by "Edward Polzin" 26) Re: The New Album: The Real Cover? by "Sasha" 27) Sorry about that..... and Yes by "Sadbutunforgiven" 28) Yes - Atlanta, Oct 16. by Dave Ware 29) New DT cover, whether its real or not. by Bert Baldwin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:23:25 -0500 From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" To: Subject: The Black Album? Message-ID: <008901befb2b$15240440$0101a8c0@pavilion> Mr. Korgy Ecksthrey wrote: >While the >real< new album cover doesn't offer any insight into the name of >the album. It's a very unique cover. Like hell it doesn't! They've one-upped the Beatles and made The Black Album! AWWWRIIIGHT! ;-) -Nicole/Kirby _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Scenes from a Memory ? Message-ID: --- Preston Scheuneman wrote: > > Which may mean that > Met. 2 with Derek might me on the christmas CD, or > maybe just the making of > the new album type of thing. > Preston Or the band could release it with FII outtakes and a few live numbers. Maybe... === *Trent Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento "Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:51:54 -0400 From: "SirotilC" To: Subject: Re: New album cover? Message-ID: <000f01befb37$714e9120$72d5f6d1@1> Laugh, new photoshop plugins. Well, I have heard that Mike, himself, designed the new cover. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:22:22 -0500 From: "Peter" To: email_address_removed Subject: Win the Game Message-ID: *** URGENT *** ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS =46OR YOUR BUSINESS AND INCREASE YOUR PRO=46ITS 30%-50% ! 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Go ahead guys and gals, you still have some guesses left. *grin* Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:email_address_removed) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:41:50 PDT From: "Ed Wilk" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Producers Message-ID: Hey, If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it.. I need to know what bands Terry Brown has worked with, besides Rush, and what bands Flood has worked with, besides NIN. Thankee. Private replies, por favor. Ed ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:45:20 +0500 (GMT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: UNLIMITED LENGTHS & IRREGULAR SHAPES ! Message-ID: DO YOU CUT SHEET METAL ? WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM LENGTH THAT YOU CAN CUT ? 3 FEET ? 40 FEET ? 17 MILES ? CAN YOU CUT "IRREGULAR" OR "UNUSUAL" SHAPES ? 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It's a very unique cover. > Click here to fetch it: > http://www.safelink.net/washburn/dtcover.jpg Oh wow, that's some powerful imagery. I think whoever did it has perfectly caputured my angst and loss at the departure of Derek. Bwaha.. ha. -- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:09:22 -0500 From: Jim Shields To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: whatup? Message-ID: hey, I resubscribed a couple days ago, and still no 'jams. whasupwidat? can we not figure out how to post unless it's a reply? Jim Shields Guitar/vocals - Room 213 (www.room213.com) Now Officially a Radio-TV-Film Student! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:41:01 +1000 From: "email_address_removed.au" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: question on cd length Message-ID: Just a question to the hardware people here, i was wondering what the maximum length for a cd is. i keep on being told that it is 73 or 74 minutes, but for one Tool's Aenima is 77 minutes. Can anyone tell me what it is? > Also, James said the CD is about 77 minutes! Hell yeah! He said there ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: question on cd length Message-ID: --- "email_address_removed.au" wrote: > > Just a question to the hardware people here, i was > wondering what the maximum length for a cd is. i > keep > on being told that it is 73 or 74 minutes, but for > one Tool's Aenima is 77 minutes. Can anyone tell me > what it is? I've heard 74 minutes myself but I own several CDs that go up to 78 minutes. I think the truth is that commercial CDs (ie, from a record label) can hold more than CD-Rs. I'm relatively certain that CD-Rs max out at 74 minutes. So, I'd venture to say that the absolute most a commercial CD can hold is 78 minutes. There ya go. === *Trent Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento "Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sales Figures Message-ID: This blurb was taken straight from mikeportnoy.com. I'd provide a more specific hyperlink, but the info is contained in a pop up window. Dem's da breaks. Anywho, here we go-- "However, I'm not going to dodge your question so I'll give you a "guess-timate": (Our label only really knows for sure...) Our biggest selling album to date in America was "Images & Words" which was certified Gold (over 500,000 copies sold in the US) largely due to success of Pull Me Under on US radio. Since then, the radio & MTV market in America has drastically changed - which has weeded out the fans of "our new hit single" and our sales have levelled out to reflect our "real" fan-base which has been in the 200,000 US sales vicinity each time out.. Our real sales have added up from over-seas markets (Germany, Italy, Holland, Brazil, Japan, etc..) where we do very well because those markets are less dependant on radio & MTV. For instance, all of our CD's have gone platinum in Japan (100,000 in Japan alone) I suppose the "safe" answer is that we consistantly sell somewhere around half a million Worldwide each time out... (Which by Backstreet Boys standards is peanuts, but for a progessive band in 1999 writing 12 minutes songs is quite an achievement!)" So there ya have it, straight outta the horse's mouth. === *Trent Metropolis- mp3s for free, made by me (mostly) http://members.xoom.com/el_trento "Life is like a nacho; if it gets to cheesy, it's your own fault." Me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:01:50 -0600 From: Vince LuPone To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JPM100 guitar on Ebay Message-ID: Hey, I thought this might be of interest to someone on here. There's a JPM-100 on Ebay for about $600 or $700. Here's the URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157426363 have fun :) Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, Vince LuPone Guitarist for Obscure http://www.ivorygate.com/obscure/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:04:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: New Dreamscape CD Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Metzger, Mark wrote: > The only bad thing is that the CD does seem to start slowly as > the first few songs are a bit too proggy for my taste TOO proggy??? You mean as in not-heavy-enough-too-proggy? Thorn In My Mind is the second song (third track) on the album an it's one of the heaviest on the album. And it's also one of the 'proggiest', I agree. There's an instrumental part in the middle of that song that could've been straight out of Metropolis pt. I. Proggy? Yeah! Heavy? Yeah! Bad? NOOOOOO! > ..... TRUST YOUR ELDERS !! I second that. Though I may not be one, my advise is: go get it! Cheers Zaphod |Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man | |email_address_removed.ac.be proved that black is white | |email_address_removed and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:30:11 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: New DT! Message-ID: Dream Theater - "Mushrooms From Wonderland" Track 1: It's 4:20, Do You Know Where Your Daughter Is? Track 2: Long Island Antenna Party Track 3: Dr. Suess Track 4: The Banana Owes You Nothing Track 5: Ninety-nine Bottles of Jag Track 6: Sherinian Begin Again Track 7: Smoke Finger Track 8: Springfield or Bust Track 9: Caribou Pizza Track 10: Her Cunt Looks Like an Axe Wound -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:18:34 -0400 From: "Josh Calkin" To: Subject: Re: question on cd length Message-ID: <002101befb86$9ae76d00$message_id_removed> > commercial CDs (ie, from a record label) can hold more > than CD-Rs. I'm relatively certain that CD-Rs max out > at 74 minutes. So, I'd venture to say that the > absolute most a commercial CD can hold is 78 minutes. > There ya go. Actually, a friend of mine told me that there is some CD-R software out there that can "overburn" a CD-R up to 77 minutes, from what I've heard. I'm sure I could find out which it is if anyone's interested... Regards, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: email_address_removed email_address_removed ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua IRC: Mortua ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: question on cd length Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Trent wrote: > I've heard 74 minutes myself but I own several CDs that go up to 78 > minutes. I think the truth is that commercial CDs (ie, from a record > label) can hold more than CD-Rs. I'm relatively certain that CD-Rs > max out at 74 minutes. So, I'd venture to say that the absolute most > a commercial CD can hold is 78 minutes. As a matter of fact, there are certain types of CD-Rs that can burn up to a maximum of 80 minutes. It depends on the brand name, though. However, most burning programs won't burn more than 74 minutes. The program called Nero Burning ROM will let you "overburn" a CD to as high as 80 minutes, but warns that you're doing so at the risk of damaging the CD and/or your CD-writer as well. I successfully burned a CD that was 74:11 in length, and am going to try sometime this week to burn a CD that's 77:10 in length (that one kinda scares me). I'll let you know what happens. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill it anyway because I already gave away all of his stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of humor. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:36:43 +0200 From: Michael Pruchnicki To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: AW: New DT! Message-ID: > Dream Theater - "Mushrooms From Wonderland" > > > Track 1: It's 4:20, Do You Know Where Your Daughter Is? > Track 2: Long Island Antenna Party > Track 3: Dr. Suess > Track 4: The Banana Owes You Nothing > Track 5: Ninety-nine Bottles of Jag > Track 6: Sherinian Begin Again > Track 7: Smoke Finger > Track 8: Springfield or Bust > Track 9: Caribou Pizza > Track 10: Her Cunt Looks Like an Axe Wound LMAO!!! sorry, I know this post wasn't too necessary ;) -Mike -- "What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?" -- Michael Pruchnicki Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone, Sega Magazin mlpruchnicki@computec.de ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:20:36 -0300 From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Megadeth drummers Message-ID: On Sep 08 1999, Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror wrote: [On Gar's death] Humm... Actually, Mustain has mentioned this when they played at Woodstock'99. He dedicated the last song ("Peace Sells", if I'm not mistaken) to Gar. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:15:38 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: question on cd length Message-ID: <002501befb8e$938928c0$702010ac@DEMCCOR> ]From: Subject: question on cd length > > Just a question to the hardware people here, i was wondering what the maximum length for a cd is. i keep > on being told that it is 73 or 74 minutes, but for one Tool's Aenima is 77 minutes. Can anyone tell me what it is? Metallica's Load (or ReLoad, i really dont feel like checking :) is about 80 minutes. pressed CDs (a.k.a silvers) can squeeze more than 74 minues in because they can put the pits and lands closer together on the glass master. however, this risks some older CD players not being able to read it. CD-Rs have the spiral already set in before you burn it (which is why when you stick a CD-R in a microwave, it tends to look a lot cooler than a pressed CD - somethign to do with the regularly spaced grooves or something, i'm not completely sure :), so it's a fixed size. you can often squeeze a few more seconds on, depending on the physical CD-R you happened to stick in your drive (each one varies slightly). yes, it is posible to try to burn past the 74 minute mark with the right software, but the CD will likely fail. all CD-R's have some extra space at the end - you can try and burn on it. they also sell 80-minute CD-R's, but they cost something like $17 (compared to about $1-$1.75), and really its not worth it just for an extra 6 minutes. you can read up mroe on this in the CD-R FAQ (i did a quick altavista search and came up with this link: http://pcline.epfl.ch/zuzu/cdr_faq.htm but its probably a mirror. anyways, it works). Quite an interesting read, especially if your hat happens to have a propeller attached. moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:40:00 -0400 From: "Pat Sullivan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5060 Message-ID: On 9 Sep 99, at 17:22, ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote: > While the >real< new album cover doesn't offer any insight into the name > of the album. It's a very unique cover. Oh no...it's official....the band has officially gone "Spinal Tap". Except DT keeps losing keyboard players rather than drummers. I anxiously await the release of "Metropolis Pt. II: Stonehenge" __Pat Sullivan______________________________ Email: email_address_removed WWW: http://home.ici.net/~psull/psull.html AIM: TOWHTSTS ICQ: 23499229 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexis Ramos To: ytsejam Subject: New Michael Kiske anybody? Message-ID: Hello! I heard the latest effort from ex-Helloween vocalist Michael Kiske is out already. Any comments from people that have heard it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:41:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing Subject: Varied reactions Message-ID: Korgy showed us his version of the album cover. It took you exactly how long to create that? A whole 10 hours? ;) Plus, don't forget: " can also mean "ditto" I want to get a copy of the Ditto master. Hehehe. NDTC: the post about Malmsteen was very amusing. His comment, "t's extremely self-indulgent, and it's extremely extreme" especially. You mean that's NOT normal. Well, hit me over the head with some large blunt object. paul NP Super Furry Animals: Guerilla ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote: Building fires of accusation/ Our bridge, in time/ Will burn and be forgotten ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:10:51 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FZ cover, heh Message-ID: > From: Dave M Klint > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > > I guess MP's love of FZ comes up again. > > Dream Theater - " (Quotation) > Frank Zappa - ' (Apostrophe) > > Now if only the DT version of "Nanuc Rubs it" is on the album... Hey, hey, thumbs up here! :) But I would prefer the whole set from Yellow Snow to Father O'Blivion, which pretty much stands as 1 song. :) -- CyberDuke "You can make more money as a butcher" ________________________________________________ "What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!" The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:11:01 -0500 From: "Edward Polzin" To: Subject: Re: question on cd length Message-ID: <009701befba7$1927c6e0$29068ad1@boner> you can get 80 minute cdrs in lots of 50 for less than $1 each. check out ebay. > > they > also sell 80-minute CD-R's, but they cost something like $17 (compared to > about $1-$1.75), and really its not worth it just for an extra 6 minutes. Edward Polzin Live and Rare Recordings http://polzin.home.mindspring.com CD Liner Downloads http://members.xoom.com/polzin322 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:37:14 +0200 From: "Sasha" To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: Re: The New Album: The Real Cover? Message-ID: <001101befbaa$c23de180$0fe91dc3@sasa> >From: "Korg Ecksthrey" >Subject: The new Album: The Real Cover? >While the >real< new album cover doesn't offer any insight into the name of >the album. It's a very unique cover. >Click here to fetch it: >http://www.safelink.net/washburn/dtcover.jpg so, according to Korgy, DT is doing their own version of Metallica`s Black album... :-))). p.s. Control Denied comes out on 27th Sept, new Dream Theater next month... new Malmsteen... oh man, this will be a season to remember... :-). "Lifting shadows off a dream Once broken She can turn a drop of water Into an ocean..." John Myung of Dream Theater ["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"] email_address_removed.hr http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com ICQ UIN - 6098813 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:44:32 -0400 From: "Sadbutunforgiven" To: Subject: Sorry about that..... and Yes Message-ID: <001c01befbb4$2456b5a0$9807d6d1@pavilion> I think i sent that request to the wrong address. Sorry!!! Also, anyone here going to see Yes? It'd be great if DT opened up for them...hey, the tour starts a little before the new cd comes out! I'm gonna be seeing them in Sunrise, Fl. Hector ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:45:05 -0500 From: Dave Ware To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Yes - Atlanta, Oct 16. Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B15CB22@bham-xchg> Oh Baby, Just got my tickets in the mail, anyone else in the Atlanta area going...? New Yes Sep 28, gig in Oct, new DT end of Oct, bound to be a tour, new MP vid probably November (nice Xmas present..!). Things seem just a little too good at the moment, something's bound to go horribly wrong soon. There's been some chat about the new album title, I think it's really funny - I even heard the word "disinformation" being used, a government conspiracy maybe...? Someone said that the title is important, it reflects the music, well let's hope they don't call it "Dump in a Cup". Dave (a UK jammer - still in Alabama). NP: Yes - Open Your Eyes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:06:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New DT cover, whether its real or not. Message-ID: Well, even if the cover on members.xoom.com is fake or not, and even if it DOES scream facrtory Photoshop filters, I STILL think it looks pretty damn cool. So, to whoever made that thing up, cheers! :) -- Bert ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5061 **************************