YTSEJAM Digest 5043

Today's Topics:

  1) DC 'Jammers
 by "Blevins, Mike" <email_address_removed>
  2) Re: Paint it Black
 by Dale R Newberry <email_address_removed>
  3) Re: Thoughts on Mullmuzzler
 by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <email_address_removed>
  4) Re: Thoughts on Mullmuzzler
 by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <email_address_removed>
  5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
 by Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
  6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
 by "Lisa M. Palma" <email_address_removed>
  7) Absolutely no DTC whatsoever!
 by Tom Tubbiola <email_address_removed>
  8) Re: Paint it Black
 by email_address_removed
  9) Re: Paint it Black
 by "Todd Fostvedt" <email_address_removed>
 10) Re: Paint it Black
 by "Marcel Schot" <email_address_removed>
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
 by Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
 12) DT Tribute Album: Availability in the U.S.
 by "Ryan Park" <email_address_removed>
 13) TERRY BOZZIO
 by "Thor Bremer" <email_address_removed>
 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
 by "Lisa M. Palma" <email_address_removed>
 15) NEW US QUARTERS*
 by "Todd Vaiman" <email_address_removed>
 16) CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering
 by IRON HENDERSON <email_address_removed>
 17) <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
 by Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
 18) We want big balls
 by "Al @ Switchcraft" <email_address_removed>

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:45:02 -0400
From: "Blevins, Mike" <email_address_removed>
To: "'email_address_removed'" <email_address_removed>
Subject: DC 'Jammers
Message-ID: <245F7E2FFC57D311A6DF0090273628B002B940@AMSC_NTAS>


> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:13:10 EDT
> From: email_address_removed
> To: email_address_removed
> Subject: re: DC Jammers
> Message-ID: <message_id_removed>
> 
> 
> well, im not exactly in DC, and im not from DC, but i am 
> closer to DC than to 
> Boston. Right now im in college at Virginia Tech. 

I must have missed this in the original digest - trying to catch up on too
much post-Powermad mail - but I certainly qualify, being in Lorton, VA. I
know Kevin Madden, Kez, Glenn F. and Pat Daugerty are locals (or
semi-locals), as well, and I know I'm forgetting a couple. If they're still
subscribed, that is - I post so little now that I'm practically a lurker.

Mike
Division - come see us at Jaxx on September 11th.

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:44:45 -0500
From: Dale R Newberry <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Paint it Black
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Somebody (I can't remember who or I'd reply privately) asked about who
originally did the song "Paint it Black" (covered by God for the movie
"Stir of Echoes").  The Rolling Stones originally did it.  One of my
favourite Stones songs (in addition to Sympathy for the Devil).  I
remember when Paint it Black used to be the theme song for the TV show
"Tour of Duty."  Great great song.

Dale R. Newberry

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Korgy wrote:

>b) I get the impression that the only thing that makes this KJ's album
>is that he wrote all of the lyrics and sang them.

Yeah, but the album *features* his singing.  For example, it doesn't
feature Mike Keneally going off on some wild guitar solo or a 4 minute
musical interlude.  (Not that there's anything WRONG with that.  :) 
And I agree, the high notes are excessive, hence the "crunchiness" I
described in my last post.

He also designed the album art, which got messed up in the process. 
EVERYONE who has seen the cover has said, "Why is he biting that guy's
ear off?"  As soon as I explain the "mistake" they go, "Oooooohhhh."

-Nicole/Kirby
NP: Mullmuzzler - Slow Burn, and then the CD's gonna repeat *again*  :)


===
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112
email_address_removed
http://www.christopherlloyd.net
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Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:06:33 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <000b01beef35$543c5da0$message_id_removed>


Whats the mistake?


> He also designed the album art, which got messed up in the process. 
> EVERYONE who has seen the cover has said, "Why is he biting that guy's
> ear off?"  As soon as I explain the "mistake" they go, "Oooooohhhh."
> 
> -Nicole/Kirby
> NP: Mullmuzzler - Slow Burn, and then the CD's gonna repeat *again*  :)
> 
> 
> ===
> Nicole Stachowicz McWatters
> Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112
> email_address_removed
> http://www.christopherlloyd.net
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
> 


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:10:41 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.se>


email_address_removed wrote:

> take me off your damn list for the 9 millionth time damn it

Who are you speaking to? To unsubscribe from the ytsejam, follow these
instructions:

Send  an email to: email_address_removed
Subject: asdf
Body: subscribe ytsejam <your real name>

Replace "your real name" with the name you used to subscribe.

Simple huh? What also would have been simple, was for you find this
out for yourself ;-)

Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:email_address_removed.se



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:35:09 -0700
From: "Lisa M. Palma" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


At 01:23 PM 08/25/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>email_address_removed wrote:
>
>> take me off your damn list for the 9 millionth time damn it
>
>Who are you speaking to? To unsubscribe from the ytsejam, follow these
>instructions:
>
>Send  an email to: email_address_removed
>Subject: asdf
>Body: subscribe ytsejam <your real name>
>
>Replace "your real name" with the name you used to subscribe.
>
>Simple huh? What also would have been simple, was for you find this
>out for yourself ;-)


Geeee... that would have been pretty simple except that you just posted the
instructions for SUBSCRIBING to the list. What also would have been simple,
was for you to actually post the correct instructions, or point him to
where he could find them.

Fortunately I've already sent him the correct instructions privately...
since he's tired of receiving the posts, he might not be checking the list
for a response.


~~~~~ Lisa M. Palma ~~~~~
~~email_address_removed~~

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:13:31 -0700
From: Tom Tubbiola <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Absolutely no DTC whatsoever!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


To all those 30+ exmetalhead jammers here, pick up (or dust off) a copy of Judas Priest's Screaming for Vengence and crank it way up. I did that yesterday and just had the best 80s flashback in a long time. . .   :-)

Tom


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:38:38 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Paint it Black
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


><   Somebody (I can't remember who or I'd reply privately) asked about who 
originally did the song "Paint it Black" (covered by God for the movie "Stir 
of Echoes").  The Rolling Stones originally did it.  One of my favourite 
Stones songs (in addition to Sympathy for the Devil).  I remember when Paint 
it Black used to be the theme song for the TV show "Tour of Duty."  Great 
great song.   ><

Great show, too.

NP - Queen: Princes of the Universe.mp3

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:41:08 -0600
From: "Todd Fostvedt" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Paint it Black
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



>hey guys (biblically) quick question
>
>Who originally wrote the song "Paint it Black" IIRC. It's the song on the
trailer for the
>new film "Stir of Echoes" with Kevin Bacon.  The band God does a cover of it,
but who
>originally wrote it and on what album.
>
>thanks
>indii

]From the Rolling Stones' album Aftermath, released in '66, I believe.



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:46:43 +0200
From: "Marcel Schot" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Paint it Black
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.nl>


On 25-8-99 at 14:45 Todd Fostvedt wrote:

>>Who originally wrote the song "Paint it Black" IIRC. It's the song on the
>]From the Rolling Stones' album Aftermath, released in '66, I believe.

And also covered by Grip Inc. and Rage

Marcel Schot



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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:00:24 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.se>


"Lisa M. Palma" wrote:

> Geeee... that would have been pretty simple except that you just posted the
> instructions for SUBSCRIBING to the list. What also would have been simple,
> was for you to actually post the correct instructions, or point him to
> where he could find them.

Sorry, my bad! I forgot to add the "un" in  "unsubscribe". Otherwise my
instructions were quite correct, and there was no reason for you to flame me
for making a simple and obvious mistake. Now go take your mandatory cold shower
for overreacting ;-)

Cheers!

Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:email_address_removed.se



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:14:45 -0400
From: "Ryan Park" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: DT Tribute Album: Availability in the U.S.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I wrote Adrenaline Records to see how to purchase the Dream Theater tribute
album "Voices" in the United States.  Here's the response I got.  -- Ryan

-----Original Message-----
]From: Adrenaline [mailto:email_address_removed
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 6:45 AM
To: Ryan Park
Cc: email_address_removed
Subject: R: CD availablity in U.S.?


>I'd like to purchase "Voices: A Tribute to Dream Theater" (ADR 9905-6), but
>I live in the United States and have been unable to find any information
>about it here.  How can I go about purchasing this disc?  Can I purchase it
>direct from your Adrenaline Records?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ryan

RYAN

manu thanks for the interest in VOICES.
Just go here... you will be pro served and will save A LOT of money in
shipping....

stay tuned
Simone
(you should also try Evil Wings and Moon of Steel)

http://cdbaby.com/dreamt
http://cdbaby.com/moonsteel
http://cdbaby.com/evilwings


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:42:17 -0500
From: "Thor Bremer" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: TERRY BOZZIO
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Are any Jammers in the Madison, WI area going to the Terry Bozzio clinic this Sunday?  I'll be there.  Just thought it would be cool if there were some jammers there.  Tell me if you're gonna be there.

email_address_removed

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:46:56 -0700
From: "Lisa M. Palma" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


At 03:06 PM 08/25/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Sorry, my bad! I forgot to add the "un" in  "unsubscribe". Otherwise my
>instructions were quite correct, and there was no reason for you to flame me
>for making a simple and obvious mistake. 

Actually NO, that wasn't the only mistake in your instructions. Had you not
been such a fucking smart ass in your response to the guy (as usual), I
wouldn't have replied at all. Now go take a shower of any temperature.
You're stinking up the Jam.



~~~~~ Lisa M. Palma ~~~~~
~~email_address_removed~~

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:53:09 -0400
From: "Todd Vaiman" <email_address_removed>
To: "YTSEJAM" <email_address_removed>, "Noel Selders" <email_address_removed>,
Subject: NEW US QUARTERS*
Message-ID: <003501beef76$85e96f00$c4634ed8@vaiman>


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=20
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:55:03 -0400
From: IRON HENDERSON <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Art Ellis wrote:

>Did anybody else's copy of Mullmuzzler- "Keep It To Yourself" get
>backordered with CDNow?

Yep.  And so did my copy of the new Jethro Tull album (dubiously titled
"Dot.Com").  I ordered both about a month ago.

I dunno about anyone else out there, but I'm planning on writing CDNow and
giving 'em a piece of my mind.  They should not have the option to preorder
if they're not actually going to order the preordered copies until the
release date.  At the very least, there should be a large warning to the
customer somewhere letting them know that their preordered CDs probably
won't get to them for at least a week or two after the actual release date.
 I'd suggest anyone else who feels the same also griping.  CDNow is a
business -- we, the users of the Internet made it, and <insert a clich=E9d
phrase here>.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Brian

[NP...Fight -- A Small, Deadly Space]

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Name:
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Contact:
 email_address_removed
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
 http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
WARNING: Do NOT go to the above website!!!
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:01:05 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <email_address_removed.se>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.se>


"Lisa M. Palma" wrote:

> Actually NO, that wasn't the only mistake in your instructions. Had you not
> been such a fucking smart ass in your response to the guy (as usual), I
> wouldn't have replied at all.

The cold shower didn't help huh? Lisa, you need to turn your volume down a few
notches, then tell me what else was wrong with my instructions. My response to
the "take me off this list" guy was in no way offensive, and I think everyone but
you realized that.

Try counseling Lisa, you have way to much aggression going on ;-)

Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:email_address_removed.se



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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:42:50 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <email_address_removed>
To: retaehT maerD <email_address_removed>
Subject: We want big balls
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Greetings fellow Jamsters,

I'd like to pick everyone's brain for a strange, but technically justifiable
idea I have. I wish to make a speaker system that uses spherical cavities
for the woofer and midrange drivers. The spherical shape has countless
advantages in terms of acoustical behavior. It really is the ideal shape
for a speaker enclosure. B&W uses spherical cavities for the midrange
drivers in their Nautilus series speakers, I'd like to take this one step further
and include the woofer in a sealed spherical enclosure. Unfortunately, I'm not
sure how to accomplish this.  It needs to be a nearly perfect sphere with an
internal volume of 3.13 to 3.5 cubic feet. (88.64 to 99.12 liters) It has to be
an extremely dense material that's not prone to resonating at lower frequencies.
It also needs to be light enough for two men to carry, so concrete is out of the
question. Concrete is the material of choice for the midrange since it's volume
and physical size makes it's use plausible as well as somewhat practical in
terms of density, weight, and ease of reshaping once set.

Ideally, I want the cabinet to have no influence on the sound of the system
other than providing the appropriate internal volume as dictated by the
Thiele-Small parameters of the driver itself.   The enclosure needs to be
extremely rigid to tolerate the tremendous acoustic pressure, but can't
be brittle or prone to ringing when struck.  A three foot diameter Corian
ball would be nice to start with if someone made one. Hollowing that out
through the driver hole could get a little tedious though.  :)   I'd hate to think
what the price would be considering 3/4" x 30" Corian sells for $90.00  per
linear foot.  ANY reasonable ideas welcomed.


P.S. The outside doesn't necessarily have to be spherical, but it certainly
would look interesting.  Imagine Portnoy pounding away through the 800
Lb. snowmen of sound... Sitting in the corners of your living room  :)

--
Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                           ^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.



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