YTSEJAM Digest 5000 Today's Topics: 1) Mini Digest (4996) by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" 2) happy y5k by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 3) Concepts... by "Kevin Hammer" 4) didn't deal my strongest cards by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 5) YTSEJAM 5000 !!!!!!!!!! by email_address_removed 6) DREAM THEATER PUBLICITY ON MTV by email_address_removed 7) Depressing Music by Michael Pontrelli 8) Woohoo 5000!! And some DTC... by Steve Godbout 9) Re: Metropolis II - The Rumors and the Facts by email_address_removed 10) 5000! by "Brandon S. Jessee" 11) Re: Think... by "Miguel Farah F." 12) Roger Waters by email_address_removed 13) RE: Maiden Chicago by Josh Watkins 14) Re: chroma key by John Parks 15) the mp3 revolution by email_address_removed 16) Re: Another Post by "Fran Brennan" 17) Whoo hoo! by "Chris Files" 18) Re: the mp3 revolution by trent ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:20:15 +0200 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mini Digest (4996) Message-ID: <199907270020150880.000AF6D7@c3.hu> Hey jammers, >From: "Outlander 99" >Subject: Metallica sux ass:Deal with it >>>Metallica changed from their standard formula. >yea...from killer speed metal to producer written shit-in-a-sack Producer written? I did not know about this. Are you sure? I don't have Load and Reload, so I can't check it. Can anyone do it for me? >I used to LOVE this band...now I think there is no hope for them. >THANX alot Bob Rock < rock...what a fuckin joke eh?> So this Bob kid writes the new songs, eh? >From: email_address_removed >Subject: A new beginning! >On Saturday, July 24, at 5:13 A.M. Central time, my wife and I had a baby >girl. [...] >"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset" Maaan! Congratulations! Find your pleasure in her. So... you know what I mean. Be proud of her. She'll be a beauty (though now she is a Sleeping Beaty, I think...;) ) Whose father likes Dream Theater...this is out of question...a wonderful girl...;))))) >From: "J." >Subject: The improving state of music today..... NDTC >Whats up? I figured that I would start a new thread that I find kind of >interesting. I have noticed (with great interest) that radio stations are >starting to play, 1. More 80's metal. 2. More talented 90's music and 3. >A lot more HEAVY stuff. Good for you. All we have here is Brooklyn Bounce, Scooter, and stuffs like that. And the usual Hungarian pop-crap. YAK and BLEAH! > Let me give you a reason why I feel that it is improving. My family >runs a volunteer food vending shack at a local fair every year. I have been >busting my ass all the while listening to a local "rock" station. We don't have these here. No rock stations.:( We have some kinda stations that broadcast evergreen songs from the 80's, but they play nothing else than pop. If I want to listen to rock music -and I always want to-, then I just insert 5 CDs in the CD player and set it to shuffle mode.;) >sure some of their stuff was pretty cheesy, but by >no means as cheesy as the music that we have been hearing in the 90's. I >must say that I am happy. Well, my first lover was Guns N Roses. Our love lasted for 4 years.;) Then came the real, never ending love: Dream Theater.;) Of course, no matter how much I liked G'NR, I find some of the songs cheesy, as I look back now. But in 1986, when Appetite came out, that was the acceptable rock music. >Okay.. I'm >tired an rambling.. but does anyone see what I see? Preach on, bro...;) I see your point. And I must confess, I am on cloud nine - or I am thrilled to bits (just to practice the idioms...;) ) - that the Bands of NWOBHM are together again (Maiden, Priest, etc.). Anyway, Priest is going to make their new album, its gonna come out in October, I guess. Bye ZZZZZ Get Calypso E-mail Client at http://www.mcsdallas.com To make your Calypso "registered", email me @ email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:53:29 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: happy y5k Message-ID: of course, if Parmet follow through on his Holy Lamb (song for harmonic convergence) threat, this will show up if 5002 or something Some of you might remember me, over the years, having praised the Ann Arbor art fair as a time of great CD hauls for cheap prices....this year wasn't the greatest, but add my perusals of the used cd places during that same time, and I didn't make out too badly last weekend.... of the stuff i got, Anacrusis' Screams and Whispers disc was the best, a real good find.....if anyone can point me towards anacrusis info, i'd be obliged..... I picked up the album "always" by a band called "the gathering"....are these the same folks now touring in the United States? as a description, i'd offer slow heavy metal with absolute death vocals, which are mixed well (meaning they don't overwhelm the rest of the music, and are actually rather listenable) got an extra copy of that, so if anyone has, say, an early Magellan disc that's just picking up dust, I'd be open to a trade....... partha _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:10:51 EDT From: "Kevin Hammer" To: email_address_removed Subject: Concepts... Message-ID: No, no, no! You're all wrong! The new album is gonna be a collection of 3 minute hit singles. Met2 is just gonna be the b-side on each release. kevin _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:11:29 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: didn't deal my strongest cards Message-ID: (apologies for the ever-lengthening advert, btw) oops....forgot to mention the more (maybe) viable trade bait also got an extra (used) copy of Damn the Machine (including original(?) Megadeth guitarist Chris Poland), and of Mutha's Day Out -- "My Soul is Wet (punch-out, used)....if you don't know about Mutha's Day Out, go ask Paul Cashman (or just check out his web site for info on that band).....the kids in that band were like 15 when they made the album, and it's kind of like a Korn, jr., an early (1993 i think) rap/metal combo, but without all the baggage that's attached to the "genre" now that it's gotten big..... like i was saying, i wanna get my hands on early Magellan stuff (hour of restoration or impending ascenscion), so if you have one of those to trade, please speak up....or make a trade offer.... partha _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:17:55 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM 5000 !!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: CONGRATULATIONS YTSEJAMMERS THIS IS DIGEST NUMBER 5,000 KEEP THE TRADITION ALIVE I AM RETARTED LATER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:42:11 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DREAM THEATER PUBLICITY ON MTV Message-ID: Hey Jammers, I had an idea and I don't know if it has been posted before so I will say it anyway. On TRL you always see people outside with signs asking to come up to see Carson or saying Limp Bizket rules or whatever. So what if some New York fans could head down to the MTV studio and make some signs with Dream Theater related things on it. I think it would be good free publicity so if some of you die hard fans could do it every now and then, I think it would help. I would do it but I am down in San Diego. That's my idea, Later Jammers, Justin Sepulveda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:45:27 -0400 From: Michael Pontrelli To: email_address_removed Subject: Depressing Music Message-ID: True, I look at my CD collection and much of what I listen to is depressing (Marillion, Queensryche, Pink Floyd, Cure, Fates, Savatage) but there are a TON of inspirational and uplifting non-pop albums as well... such as most of RUSH, The Gathering (dont ask me why but I find them very uplifting.. must be the vocals), U2, Transiberian Orchestra (fills my heart with joy :P ) Dream Theater, etc. In fact, 99 percent of what I listened to was depressing music until I discovered Dream Theater, who opened my eyes to the fact that music can indeed be uplifting. (thanks DT!). Wierd too, that my overall outlook on life has improved since I started listening to Dream Theater 24 hours a day :P . Take Care Pontay needs a Dream Theater Concert Badly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:55:10 -0400 From: Steve Godbout To: YTSEJAM Mailing list Subject: Woohoo 5000!! And some DTC... Message-ID: <379CF55E.3D7E428F@videotron.ca> Here we go! Congrats Skadz on keeping this list alive for 5000 digests!! As far as the Seoul Show goes, I second the motion by bogie. We definitly need to get this show in MP3 format, especially if they play new stuff. I must admit that I am a bit puzzled by this show. On the 25th of May, MP was doing a clinic in Quebec City and said that there would not be any shows BEFORE the release of the next album. A few days later, this show pops up. I, for one, sure hope that they will not play anything new. At first I was both puzzled and a tiny bit irritated by OFB's silence on the new album, being that there has never been before that kind of secrecy concerning new material (e.g. THe Fix for 96 and other similar shows) before. But now, with the thread that has emerged on this list concerning DT99, I am buzzing with anticipation. That would certainly die if they played new material in Seoul because I know that in no way am I going to be able to stop myself from listening to it, short of shooting myself in the balls. Take Care, and happy 5000th digest!!! Steve Godbout ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:00:33 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metropolis II - The Rumors and the Facts Message-ID: <> Very well put. Eloquent, colorful, and to the point. [eriC] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:14:35 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Jessee" To: email_address_removed Subject: 5000! Message-ID: Hey, does anyone know where I can get TAB of Sheet music for the Original unedited Cruise Control by Dixie Dregs on Freefall? You guys may wanna check out Jazz is Dead. I know Jimmy Herring, he's one of the best Guitarist alive right now... Not many people have heard of him, but those who have... Later, Brandon ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:24:38 -0400 (CLT) From: "Miguel Farah F." To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Think... Message-ID: > >Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:26:30 +0100 >From: Jon Parmet >To: email_address_removed >Subject: Think... >Message-ID: > > >I'll post a 40K message, so it comsumes jam 5000. It shall be a >religious posting about Korg's encounter with the Holy Lamb. It shall be >in HTML. And skadz shall cut your head off for that. Won't you be doing a top-10 testaments list, too? :-) -- MIGUEL FARAH // miguel@webhost.cl #include // http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:26:46 +0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: Roger Waters Message-ID: Thanks to the person who posted about www.roger-waters.com and the ongoing US tour of the East Coast. At least I can be ready to follow the tour over the net. For those interested, the radio interview broadcast on July 22 with Waters is available at www.pinkfloyd-co.com cheers matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:17:36 -0500 From: Josh Watkins To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: Maiden Chicago Message-ID: I couldn't agree with you more, except that I thought Clutch SUCKED. I know that clutch has been around for a while, at least as long ago as when Headbangers Ball was on MTV...but YUCK. Just as terrible and talentless as Limp Bizkit and Korn. Monster Magnet though...they were simply being Monster Magnet. The band has an image to maintain, and they did a good job of it last night. The lead singers onstage antics (from his tight leather pants, to throwing water around and doing Poison-esque stage jumps) were pretty corny...but what do you expect from a guy Marilyn Manson called "An LSD angel with marijuana wings." Either way, the only redeeming part of their performance was Negasonic Teenage Warhead, and maybe 1 other song. Iron Maiden...WICKED. The guys were in good form, and had incredible stage presence. They were the most energetic band I have ever seen live! Although the set list was missing a couple of my fav. songs, the concert was great! If they come around any of you guys, I highly recommend seeing the show. BTW - Maiden is drawing a totally cool crowd. I got a lot of high fives when people saw my Iced Earth - Days of Purgatory shirt. Josh -----Original Message----- ]From: email_address_removed [mailto:email_address_removed Behalf Of Dale R Newberry Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re:Maiden Chicago Oh man, oh man, oh man, what a fucking show!!! Just saw Iron Maiden in Chicago last night, and it was easily one of the best shows I've been to (note: I didn't say THE best, just one of the best :). After easily finding the Aragon Ballroom, my buds and I got lost in downtown looking for this Italian restaurant we ate at before. Didn't find it, but ate at another kickass Italian eatery. As good as it was, that was a bit of a mistake since we were all bloated with pasta right when we got to a completely packed and extremely hot concert hall. It HAD to be the most tightly packed show I've ever been to. Clutch came out. Not as bad as I was expecting. I wouldn't mind seeing them again, only in a smaller club in a different setting. Monster Magnet has to be the worst band I've ever seen live. At first I thought all their posing on the stage (the singer in particular) was sort of tongue-in-cheek parody type stuff, but then I thought, man, they're not doing a very good job of it. They played their songs alright. I mean, I didn't notice wrong notes or anything, but they were just bad. The, the video screen came down (after a short wait) and the Ed Hunter video thing came on. I must say, that was one damn good idea for a way to open the show. I wouldn't mind checking the game out sometime. I don't think I really need to saya whole lot about the show itself. I mean, the band kicked ass as expected. Bruce sounded as good, if not better than ever. The three guitar setup really works, too. I really enjoy Janick's playing a lot mroe now. Highlights: The opening was killer Eddie walking around on the stage Great set list Dickinson is a damn good frontman that really knows how to work the crowd The band had a lot of energy, and that really affected the crowd's reaction, I believe "SCREAM FOR ME CHICAGO!!!!!" SCREAM FOR ME LONG BEACH ARENA!!!!!" (yes, Bruce did say this at one point with a rather wry smile on his face :). Lowlights: Monster Magnet the acoustics weren't all that great. The mix may have ben alright, but the acoustics in the place weren't the best the heat I really think Maiden is headed to do some bigger shows after the new album comes out. Definitely an act to catch. A couple guys in the show commented on my FII tour shirt I was wearing, as well as one guy I saw outside. If any of you are on here, hey. Dale R. Newberry ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Parks To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: chroma key Message-ID: > It would have been nice to see Zonder come back, but I'm > sure KevMo won't > dissappoint. > I was just curious as to what musicians appeared on the first Chroma Key album? I plan on picking it up real soon. later all === John Parks email_address_removed Information is not knowledge, Knowledge is not wisdom, Wisdom is not truth, Truth is not beauty, Beauty is not love, Love is not music and Music is THE BEST -Frank Zappa- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:07:44 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: the mp3 revolution Message-ID: Hi yall, I normally don't post because I never have anything relevant to say, but please excuse me just this once... I was wondering, is anyone other than me concerned with the mp3 revolution? ]From what I gather from the melodramatic press, it seems as though cds will be obsolete within the next ten years. Of course, DT won't be getting hit the hardest, but I was just becoming a little concerned with the stability of their livelihood... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:46:50 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Another Post Message-ID: I'm not interested in DT being the most popular band, but I was wondering, since a bunch of us will buy this album the day it comes out, what are the chances that it will enter the charts in a rated position? Wouldn't that be interesting? I believe "Awake" debuted the billboard charts at #34(?) Fran "Banjoman" Brennan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simple truths aren't always simple, sometimes just simply true - Matt Smith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:54:39 -0400 From: "Chris Files" To: Subject: Whoo hoo! Message-ID: <002d01bed7dc$62f8c4c0$86ffaccf@artoodetoo> YTSEJAM 5000!! WHOO HOO! (What will the next thousand jams bring us?) --CF PS Sorry, I couldn't resist. Of course, by the time this gets sent it'll end up on #5001. So... YTSEJAM 5001! YIPPEE! (Dear Lord, make him *stop*). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:38:36 -0400 (EDT) From: trent To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: the mp3 revolution Message-ID: --- email_address_removed wrote: > > Hi yall, > I normally don't post because I never have anything > relevant to say, but > please excuse me just this once... > I was wondering, is anyone other than me concerned > with the mp3 revolution? > ]From what I gather from the melodramatic press, it > seems as though cds will > be obsolete within the next ten years. Of course, > DT won't be getting hit > the hardest, but I was just becoming a little > concerned with the stability of > their livelihood... With any revolution comes new rules. DT won't go broke, they'll just have to find a different way to market themselves. If mp3 is everything that the mass media would have you believe (and IMHO they're not far off) then it own't be CDs that are obsolete, but rather record labels. There's always going to be a hit idea for a band to make money while releasing their music to the public. And anyway, DT are certainly set for cash for the time being. === *Trent "Here he comes, he's a man of the land he's Leatherman, smile on his face, axe in his hand." Eddie Vedder, '98 - Metropolis Online - http://members.xoom.com/el_trento _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5000 **************************