YTSEJAM Digest 4981 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4979 by email_address_removed 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4980 by Gabriel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Galv=E3o?= 3) MP Studio Vid...oh and a Rant... by Dave Ware 4) lemur voice by "Trevor W. Hoit" 5) Re: The Source of Secrets is... Mike Oldfield! by Matej Grginic 6) Suffer ye not fools gladly, I know I don't. by Jeremy Hallum 7) I DEFINITELY do not suffer fools gladly. by Jeremy Hallum 8) Re: are you guys ready? (long) No DTC by "Matt Molite" 9) Keyboardists by Stephen Dedalus 10) Re: Planet X by CLARK ABEL 11) Stratovarius chat on wednesday by Mark Smeets 12) Re: Suffer ye not fools gladly, I know I don't. by "Korg Ecksthrey" 13) man, what a funny day. by Chris Oates 14) LTE2-Another Dimension by Kurt Hampton 15) Drum Corps by email_address_removed 16) Re: Drum Corps by Brad Plumb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:02:20 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4979 Message-ID: Went to MAIDEN in Boston Sunday night. Adrian wasn't there. He had a family emergency and had to fly back home. They expect him back in a couple of days. Show was great but the sound engineer sucked. I was right next to the sound board and the guy kept muting mics because they were feeding back. Bruce was pissed!! I'd say that sound engineer was fired after the show. They still kicked ass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:30:29 -0400 From: Gabriel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Galv=E3o?= To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4980 Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:00:50 +0200 >From: Simon Krogh >To: "'email_address_removed'" >Subject: the new videos >Message-ID: <731C028728CED11186430006290544CF09505C@NT02> > > >Hi, there! >Someone asked if it was possible to read the tracklist on the >maystudio3.mpeg. Sadly the vid is so lo-res that the list is unreadable. >BTW did all you keyboardists (and all the rest of you) see JR struttin' >his stuff in maystudio4.mpeg ? Absolutely f*'in amazing! This clip is >worth every 4.03 MB! > >Noone really answered me the last time I asked, so I'll just try again: >what sort of prices should I expect at MP's drum clinic? > I went to a MP and JP Clinic here at Boston and it was 15 bucks or something like that. I don't know, at first it doesn't really need to be expensive. Gabriel Galv=E3o AbyssEdge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:45:13 -0500 From: Dave Ware To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: MP Studio Vid...oh and a Rant... Message-ID: <63E392974AF3D211A88600104B93BD8B02D855@bham-xchg> Hey guys, So the main talk about this has been the slightly blury track listing, what about the section of muzak that JP is strumming along to. Had a whole "Hour Glass" come "Hollow Years" feel to it. Lots of that lovely sweeping piano stuff that Jorden is so good at (I'm not sure that "sweeping" is the right term, I'm no keyboardist). I just get the feeling that DT99 is gonna have a vast, epic feel to it, I cannot wait...! As for gay stuff and religion, I know we're not supposed to discuss this here, but Skadz is away doing that whole Blarney Stone thing for two weeks, so we can probably have a quiet chat about it. I was listening to KX - Tape Head in tha car this morning, and I got to thinking about Doug being gay...and all I could do was scream along to the songs, shake my head, pound my fists on the steering wheel (he..he...he said fist), and rejoice at what is a great album. So fucking what if he's gay, the boy's got talent, few people can conjure such a pounding groove, maybe he wont get to heaven, but that's probably a good thing, he can entertain me during my long stretch in the hot house... :-) Dave (a UK jammer - currently in Alabama). "Holding hands with Mary ain't no crime, but dressing up as Santa's not far behind" - Kevin Moore "Get your groove on down" - Doug Pinnick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:54:11 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: lemur voice Message-ID: > From: Graham Borland > Subject: Divided > Message-ID: > Boxman have it listed for ukp 9.30 - that's where I've ordered it from. > Indeed, that's now where I order most of my CDs from. Reliable and cheap, > especially if you're in the UK. > http://www.boxman.co.uk/ Hmmm, in the US we have to order from http://www.boxman.com and it's not listed there....That's weird. I did find it for $20 inc postage to the US at: The Rock Neerstraat 20 6041 KC Roermond Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:12:55 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: The Source of Secrets is... Mike Oldfield! Message-ID: >p.s. Cyberduke!!! I`m gonna see Vlatko Stefanovski with Gibboni at next >Friday and then Vlatko with his trio on Biker days festival on 31st July >again... yea! You'r gonna love that show :) Saw them both recently and they absolutely smoked! :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Hallum To: email_address_removed Subject: Suffer ye not fools gladly, I know I don't. Message-ID: > ------------------------------ > > From: "Korg Ecksthrey" > Subject: Are you guys ready? (long) No DTC > > > I found this to be VERY interesting. Nostradamus' prophecies have often > been a curiosity of mine, but when someone posted this quote from an album > by him, it rose my interest quite a bit. Oh goody! I love Nostradamus, lets read! Yay! Happy fun time! > > Century X: Quatrain 72 > The year 1999, seventh month, > >From the sky will come a great King of Terror: > To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols, > Before and after Mars to reign by good luck. > > Because he used the Julian calendar, the 7th month is the 8th month in the > Gregorian calendar of today. So what could happen in August 1999? > Hmm. People will live, people will die, and hopefully Q2K won't suck so much ass that Geoff Tate will have to commit seppku on stage in front of the whole world. > On 18 August 1999 NASA's probe Cassini will pass Earth with tremendous speed > at a close distance of 500 km. On board it carries 72.3 pounds of plutonium. > One milligram of that stuff is enough to kill a human being. Could therefore > Cassini be the 'great king of terror coming out of the sky' Nostradamus > tells about? Oh fer sure, dude! After all, for one whole mg of this particular brand of plutonium to actually kill you, it essientially has to become a fine powder and inhaled through the nostrils. A human could eat a full pound of this stuff and it would completely pass through your system with you, and the pluotium unharmed, simply because it doesn't get digested. > Century III: Quatrain 34 > When the eclipse of the sun, will then be > In broad daylight the monster will be seen: > Everyone will differ on the interpretation > High price unguarded: none will have prepared > Everyone will differ on the interpretation, how true, how true. Some people will even interpret this to further their own political careers. Sad, isn't it? > Even astrologers of today think something could happen in the summer of > 1999. On 11 August 1999, only a week before Cassini's > rendez-vous, a total solar eclipse will be visible in West-Europe. > Astrologers consider that to be a bad sign. > Even ASTROLOGERS? WOW!!!! Maybe you'd better ask the ASTRONOMERS, they sure as hell have infinitely more clues than some lousy fucking astrologers. > Now the link... > > Century II: Quatrain 41 > The great star for seven days will burn > The cloud will cause two suns to appear: > The big mastiff all night will howl > When the pontiff changes countries > > Notice the link between the three Quatrains. >Cassini (the King of > Terror?)< will fly by the Earth >seven days< after >the eclipse.< Everyone > HAS had a different interpretation of what the "King of Terror" may be. > Aliens, a comet, missle attack. Mikey Nostro says it's something no one > will expect. This probe comes waaaay out of left field. The only other > connection I can think of that might pin this harder would be to find out if > Pope John Paul II happens to have any sort of trip planned on that date. So > far, I haven't been able to come up with any (heh) Pope John Tour Dates. :) > > Now, NASA stated that (as any US gov't institution) there is no danger of an > impact from Cassini, but Jesus, it's flying by us at 42,000 kph and coming > within 500km of the planet! That leaves scant amount of room for error. > Some people believe that NASA fucked up. I leave you with a couple of links > to peruse if you're interested. I think this is very intriguing myself and > wanted to share it. Let me counter with some facts of my own. Cassini's Radio Thermal Generators (where the plutonium is stored) are essentially pellets of plutonium surrounded by a large metal shield that is resistant to fire, collision and heat. The way that the satellite draws energy from the plutonium is not through nuclear fission (which would be against international law), but from heat released as the plutonium spontaneously changes to a less unstable molecular structure. So lets put what we know into a basic probabilty analysis. You have a radiation source that will only hurt you if it is ground to a fine powder and inhaled. It is in a spacecraft specially designed to protect it, if it managed to somehow hit Earth. First, think of the last time a interplanetary spacecraft seriously malfunctioned in space, or user error caused a satellite to malfunction. Only once has this happened, out of all the satellites we've put in space, and that was a Russian Mars satellite. Also, as far as targets go, the Earth makes a poor one. At a massive 15000 miles in diameter it'd take a lucky error for someone to run the satellite right at the planet. Remember that the distance between the Earth and the moon is a couple hundred thousand miles. Also, remember that it takes a fine powder for it to kill people. The satellite would have to hit someplace that would simultaneously crush the RTG's, vaporize the contents, and crack them open to release that vapor. Land is the only thing that will do this. Also remember that this earths surface is 2/3 water. That makes it ever harder to hit land. I read someplace that the chances of this are happening are such that if we launched a satellite per year that flew by the earth like this, it would take 300,000 years for us to get hit such that there would be deaths. Impressive, eh? Lastly, for comparison, with all of the nuclear weapons testing that has been done in the world, there is something like 150 pounds of plutonium dust in the atmosphere. It's a wonder we aren't all toast already, eh? Also, that Russian Mars satellite that had an accident I told you about? it's rocket failed, and it didn't even make it out of the Earth's gravity well before being pulled to Earth. It splashed quite nicely in the Pacific off the coast of South America. As far as I know, there is no radiation leakage from the wreckage whatsoever. The slashing and burning of the Amazonian Rain Forest appears to have had more effect on the environs than that poor satellite did. Frankly, I'm disappointed in you, Korg, for mailing out tripe like this. The sad thing is that people both believe in it, and are propogating it throughout the world as fact, when it is just spreading fear, lies and misinformation for their misguided political purposes. -jeremy PS The sad thing is that they quoted Nostradamus. UGH! Quote someone else, someone maybe with a shred of credibility would be nice. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:22:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Hallum To: email_address_removed Subject: I DEFINITELY do not suffer fools gladly. Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Jeremy Hallum wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:24:00 -0400 > From: "Art Ellis" > Subject: re: Are you guys ready? (long) No DTC > > Kudos to you for bringing that up on the 'jam. I'm a night baker, so I get > to listen to Art Bell from 1-5 am EST (paranormal/x-files type talk show). > He's been talking a LOT about the stuff you mentioned there, and he's also > had guests on to speak about it. As for Cassini, there was a letter writing > campaign to the white house shortly before it's launch, to try to get it > stopped, because the problem we now face was forseen. Hmm, I know! Let's have a contest to see has less credibility! A moldy old 14th century writer with an excessive imagination, or Art Bell? Emails to email_address_removed, ends 7/23/99 at midnite, just act now! See my last post, if you want a REALISTIC assessment of the situation. > The number of e-mails > sent to the white house about cassini set a record for the most e-mails on a > topic, so people in gov't are very aware of this. I imagine the spam bots had something to do with that. Citizens who worry about more down to earth topics tend not to spam the White House. At any rate, I'm sure the abortion/anti-abortion activists would like to discuss that record with you. > And to top it all off, > the sun has been very active lately, and sun spots are at their highest > since the late 50's. Amazingly that's due to the Sunspot Cycle, a well documented (back to the 1700s!) cyclic phoenomenon that is caused by the Sun's magnetic field, and occurs every 11 years. Maybe if you were moderately informed, you wouldn't think it was such a mysterious thing. You'd think with all of this information available on the net at people fingertips, people would actually learn how to investigate these things instead of gathering a logical INFORMED fucking opinion. Guess not. > there is some more info available thru Art Bell's website if you surf around > it. It's at www.artbell.com Wasn't Art Bell the guy who started the whole stupid "There's a UFO Circling Hale Bopp" thing, that turned out to be a huge hoax? Thought so, just checking. -jeremy Astronomy grad student and system admin. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:50:42 -0400 From: "Matt Molite" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: are you guys ready? (long) No DTC Message-ID: I think I smell a strong stench of bullshit in the air, as I always do with prophecies. First of all, none of Nostradamus' predictions have come true for sure, all the stuff you read about (WWII, Hitler, etc) happened AFTER his prophecies were discovered/translated and they were aplied to the events that happened. Second, Nostradamus never predicted the end of the world, period. Third, his quatrains were written in old French, which is the equivilant to Shakesperian english, many of the words he used are no longer part of the French language making his passages even harder to decipher, plus the fact that he wrote in very, extremely vague messages (he was a poet after all) and in reality, his predictions could really be applied to a lot of things. Fourth, in the past few months, many of his supposed predictions have come and gone with nothing happening (May 5th, according to a Nostro buff in my school, NYC was supposed to be hit with a nuclear bomb, later that month th! ! e pope was to be assassinated in Lyon, and of course, the "feast of the eagle" (July 4th) when WWIII was supposed to start). BTW, I do have a resource for all this, just do a search on Yahoo for Nostradamus, theres an FAQ on there, which is where I got most of my info from. I dont think theres anything wrong with trying to figure out his quatrains, but to actually believe them, hell you might as well go live in a trailer park in Alabama and subscribe to the Weekly World News (no offense southern jammers ;-) So, I will be standing there, laughing my ass off when this probe does NOT hit earth, and if it does...well I give you all permission to refer to me as The Great Asshole from now on ;-) (though Im sure many of you already do). Oh yeah, I heard the Jehova's Witnesses have predicted the end of the world for this weekend, and next week, and the week after that, and the week after that.... Matt +----------------------------------+ |A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush | |your mind right down the drain - | | | | Mike Portnoy | +----------------------------------+ Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Keyboardists Message-ID: I ust wanted to say... Damn!!! We've got a lot of cool keyboardists on this list. Derek, Guilly, Jens, Andy, Damon... I'm glad to know there's a buttload of you out there and I hope I cross paths with ye'all some time and we can jam. Be well. Matt ============================================================================ Accomplished guitarist seeks band. Write for details. email_address_removed ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: CLARK ABEL To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Planet X Message-ID: >Is it just me, or does Planet X sound more improvised than either LTE? Sounds less improvised to me, but what do I know? >The drumming, while technically admirable, seems unmusical and >repetitious. The guitar playing is nothing special, either. I don't know, I could learn a lot from Garsed's playing on this album. There isn't a ton of guitar but I think what there is fits nicely. >Derek seems to find a cool grove once in a while, but unfortunately keeps >with it a little longer than I appreciate. The mix is very bottom-heavy, to >point of being unnatural sounding. I'll keep listening, I've always supporte >Derek's talent, but my opinion so far is: YUK. I think the mix is pretty good too. Actually, I love this album. I don't usually post my personal opinions on specific music anymore because 1000 people each saying "I like it" or "I don't" seems kind of pointless to me, but no one is really commenting on Planet X so let me be the first to say that I think Derek makes Jordan's LTE playing sound like a fucking joke. Admittedly, the two LTE albums (and a couple of live LTE bootlegs) are the only exposure I've had to Jordan's playing, and it's quite possible that they aren't a fair representation of what he can do, but I don't really think Jordan is much of a rock musician. I actually love both LTE albums anyway. Besides whatever personal reasons the band may have had for making the switch, I suspect that they have a much easier time writing with Jordan, based on the amount of material they were able to crank out in the two or three short LTE sessions. I think he writes great music but I don't like the way he plays it... he's got no balls. The acoustic piano stuff on LTE is great but whenever Jordan starts shredding I just cringe. His phrasing is soooo repetitive when he starts using that synth lead tone... Again, there are some great melodies in there, but I just don't think Jordan plays them like a rock musician. I'm not even criticizing the band's decision and I'm definitely not trying to start a Derek vs. Jordan thing, although I guess comparing them is exactly what I'm doing. I'm sure the band had good reasons and I'm sure the new album will kick ass... I just wanted to stick up for Derek since I haven't seen many other people do it. I have NEVER heard a keyboard player who sounds like Derek, and while his keyboard is obviously a huge part of why he sounds so good, I think that saying it's the only reason is like saying Vai uses the whammy bar as a crutch... the truth is that almost no one can do the shit that Vai does with a bar, and I don't hear anyone else sounding like Derek, either. But I don't listen to nearly as many keyboard players as I do guitarists. Ok, this post has no point so I'll end it after I say one more thing about Derek in DT: I think he gave them a more identifiable sound and I think he gave them a LOT more credibility as a rock band in terms of their overall sound. We have yet to see what they will sound like with Jordan and I'll probably be blown away by it, but in my opinion they lost something they'll never replace with Derek. -Clark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:50:03 -0700 From: Mark Smeets To: email_address_removed Subject: Stratovarius chat on wednesday Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990720105003.007b37a0@wingate> Hi guys, straight from Mape Date: 20 Jul 99 09:23:26 +0200 ]From: "Ollila Marko" Subject: Strato-chat To: "email_address_removed" Hey guys, There will be a Stratovarius chat on OtherNet this Wednesday 21st at 22:00 CET. At least Timo Tolkki, Timo Kotipelto and Jens Johansson will be there. There's a chance also Jari Kainulainen and Jorg Michael will join the chat. The chat takes place on the channel #flash. _Mape_ Mark Smeets/stranger0/ICQ #1062196 "Fear...fear attracts the fearful, the strong, the weak, the innocent, the corrupt. Fear...fear is my ally" - Darth Maul, Star Wars: Phantom Menace Over the Wall Productions and Web Designs email_address_removed http://www.solarcourt.com/ Other Press Webslinger email_address_removed.bc.ca http://otherpress.douglas.bc.ca/ Official Splitting Adam Homepage email_address_removed http://www.splittingadam.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 11:52:38 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: Suffer ye not fools gladly, I know I don't. Message-ID: <002b01b81926$b3dac800$message_id_removed> >Oh fer sure, dude! After all, for one whole mg of this particular brand >of plutonium to actually kill you, it essientially has to become a fine >powder and inhaled through the nostrils. First off, I even told you in my original post it was a passing fancy. I just find it interesting. Not to mention that the possiblilty of the RTG's disintegrating upon re-entry exists (they aren't heat shielded) and when the plutonium finally falls to the earth (which it would) it would impact with enough force to cause aerosol particles to form. Depending on where it fell it could cause few to severe problems. Considering we're working on probabilities so minute that it's unreasonable to worry, I just thought I'd corrolate how this possible disaster could occur at almost precisely the time that Mr. Nostro predicted, in the same manner he predicted. But, you got me. It's all wishful thinking on my part. Not that I believe Nostrodamus, or even think it could happen, but I think it would be funny as hell to see it happen. Not because of the death of the people (I'm not sadistic or anything) but because of personal reasons that would probably piss too many people on this list off if I said it publicly, so I'll be considerate and leave it at that. :) Ta, ta... -- KorgX3 doesn't like Art Bell much either, although he's fun to listen to. NP: Abraxus Pool - s/t ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:15:34 -0700 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: man, what a funny day. Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990720111534.00949780@objypop> Forst we get yet another doomsday Notradamus misinterpretation, then we get: >if you run from God, your whole life and >mental structure gets thrown out of whack. Everybody, let's point and laugh together now. I think I'll go listen to Threshold some more. ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:54:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: LTE2-Another Dimension Message-ID: Hey all, To me this track kicks the most ass out of anything on the album. It has occurred to me that JP's tone sounds a little like White Zombie's 1st commercial release. (thunder kiss 65 etc) Anyone else hear this. Listen to the beginning then some Zombie, I don't know if I'm the only person here that actually likes White Zombie though. Kurt ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** "I remember Now" "Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy." Airheads ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:02:44 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Drum Corps Message-ID: Are any of you jammers out there into drum corps or any types of marching bands. This would mostly pertain to the drummers I guess, but any of you who play any other instruments in that area, reply to this. I just saw a Drum Corps show in Denver at Mile High Stadium and it rocked. Thats all for now. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:33:23 -0500 From: Brad Plumb To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Drum Corps Message-ID: At 12:11 PM 7/20/99 -0700, you wrote: > > Are any of you jammers out there into drum corps or any types of >marching bands. This would mostly pertain to the drummers I guess, but any >of you who play any other instruments in that area, reply to this. I just >saw a Drum Corps show in Denver at Mile High Stadium and it rocked. Thats >all for now. > Charlie Hell yes! I was on drumline when I was in highschool (well most of the time in the pit but I was on the bass line for a couple of years, even though I couldn't march) and it rocks! A lot of the guys there were always watching CORPS vids or listening to some DCI finals tape so I've heard quite a bit.. I wanna go to DCI sometime when they come through here, just never got around to it. It's amazing stuff. Palpatine Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Sorry Hank, I can't give you a reading. Your future's all used up." -Touch of Evil ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4981 **************************