YTSEJAM Digest 4975 Today's Topics: 1) Re: jethro blues & moody tull by Steve Chew 2) I MOTHER EARTH by Dan Temmesfeld 3) Portnoy's copying by "Martin" 4) Paradise Lost by "Charlie Farrell" 5) MikePortnoy.com needs CD's by Dave Hatlee 6) Dali's Dilemma by "Brandon S. Jessee" 7) Re: vai news by pete gilman 8) Re: Mullmuzzler... by James Thorpe 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 by email_address_removed 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 by email_address_removed 11) DT fan spotted in St. Louis/couple upcoming shows by Dale R Newberry 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 by email_address_removed 13) LV/Mullmuzzler by "Trevor W. Hoit" 14) Planet X pictures - 6/24/99 by email_address_removed 15) AOL question by email_address_removed (Jason T. Breitweg) 16) DT MP3's by Cyberwolf 17) MP3's by "Al @ Switchcraft" 18) Megadeth by Alexis Ramos 19) Over 500 DT MP3s at LITS by Nick Bogovich ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: jethro blues & moody tull Message-ID: > > >hey .. i'm not sure why but i've still yet to pick up a jethro tull or moody >blues cd.. my floyd, rush, genesis, crimson, zappa cd consumption is at an >alltime high but for some reason never picked up a disk from these two >bands.. anyways.. >i need some album reviews.. thanx.. > I'd recommend starting with one of these Jethro Tull albums: Aqualung -- more rock oriented Thick as a Brick -- pretty progressive, but rock too Minstrel in the Gallery -- somewhat progressive style I've pasted in my previous remarks on Tull that I posted to Ytsejam: Jethro Tull -- Tull is less classically oriented with more influences from rock and blues. They can rock with tunes like "Aqualung" or "Cold Wind to Valhalla" and they can be quite proggy, like in "Thick as a Brick", with lots of dynamics. Ian Anderson's strong vocals are phenomenal, as is Martin Barre's guitar work. "Aqualung" is not all that proggy, but it's a strong album and is accessible. "Minstrel in the Gallery" combines many of their rock elements with prog complexity. "A Passion Play" is probably their most progressive album, but is harder to get into. I love Tull so I think they're definitely worth picking up. As for The Moody Blues, you may want to try a greatest hits to give you an idea of their style, or pick up "Days of Future Passed" (sp?). Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:32:08 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld To: email_address_removed Subject: I MOTHER EARTH Message-ID: I know that their new album came out on July 13th, but no stores near me have it. It's not listed on CDNOW, either. What is their Label? (Their official website doesn't even say) And how do I get my hands on a copy? Email me please if you have any info... Dan +- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ email_address_removed http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - This email contains stroboscopic effects that may +- adversely affect epilepsy sufferers -+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:22:49 +0200 From: "Martin" To: Subject: Portnoy's copying Message-ID: <001201becf10$94ec67e0$461ea8c3@h6d7z8> Hi all, I like Portnoy's drumming much, I also have his video but I think he steals much from Peart. For example, on When The Water Break is a cool hi-hat groove in 7/4 I think which Peart plays in La Villa Strangiato. I liked that groove much and I was slightly annoyed when Mr. Portnoy straightly copied it. :-) Anyway, Mike is a killer. My $.02, Martin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:20:10 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" To: "Ytsejam list" Subject: Paradise Lost Message-ID: <008501becf20$f84f4400$894d95c1@pentium1> Just wanted to throw in another opinion on Paradise Lost. > > WSOU played a whole chunk of them tonight - first time I heard them on the >> radio - and it kicked ass. Any info would be appreciated, as usual! > >What did you heard? old staff or the newer? > Paradise Lost at first where a kick ass Death Metal band, with great songs. It's > of the few bands that changed along the way that remained really heavy and really > good. The best albums (IMHO) were "Icon" and the one that followed "Draconian > Times" were they play a mix of Death, Heavy, Gothic and God knows what else. > The bottom line is that these two kick major ass. I'm not a fan of old-style PL, but I was suckered completely when I heard 'Draconian Times' and I even like parts of 'Icon', so I guess I'm one of their fans who has been drawn to them since they started 'changing/progressing' - or whatever they have been doing over the last few years. I think that 'One Second' is a great album and I really like the mix of samples in with the crunching guitars. 'Host' is not as immediate or anywhere near as 'crunchy', but still contains meaty tracks like 'behind the grey' (which sounds just as heavy when played live as any of their earlier stuff). I think that you can draw a distinction between the studio and live material. I think that if all you've heard is the two most recent albums, then 'Depeche Mode' (or Dead Can Dance - as the band themselves would prefer) do come to mind, but put the same material in a live context alonside the older 'heavier' material and you'd be surprised how heavy it sounds and how well it integrates into the set. Must admit though, that as a first purchase, I'd still recommend 'Draconian Times'. Charlie URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:47:44 -0400 From: Dave Hatlee To: email_address_removed Subject: MikePortnoy.com needs CD's Message-ID: IF YOU HAVE ANY DT RELATED MERCHANDISE FOR SALE OR TRADE: PLEASE post it in the FORUM at: http://www.mikeportnoy.com You will be glad you did, everyday I get email from people looking to buy whatever they can get their hands on. I'm going to make a special "Classifieds" section on the site just for placing your ad for selling/trading very soon. THANKS!!!!!!!!! DaveH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:08:41 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Jessee" To: email_address_removed Subject: Dali's Dilemma Message-ID: You guys gotta, if you haven't already, check out Dali's Dilemma. Their new CD is flawless from start to finsh. It's right up there with Images. If anyone want's to chat about them or other Magna Carta bands, email me. ~Brandon email_address_removed ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:17 -0400 From: pete gilman To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: vai news Message-ID: CyberDuke wrote: CD> Any news on the Vai new stuff yet? :( from http://www.vai.com/News/ : NEW STEVE VAI SOLO RECORD! Steve Vai=92s new solo record, once tentatively titled =93Where The W= ild Things Are=94 but now renamed =93The Ultra Zone=94, will be in stores September 7th! With m= usicians Mike Keneally, Mike Mangini, Robin DiMaggio, Philip Bynoe, Bryan Beller, Japanese pop her= oes B=92z and more, Steve comprised his seventh solo record of new tracks and tracks originally= intended for the special =93Elusive Light & Sound=94 recordings for the upcoming box set (no r= elease date on that yet). The Japanese version will feature a bonus track called =93Selfless Love=94= , which Steve wrote for his mother, and other titles include =93The Blood And Years=94, =93Frank=94= , =93Jibboom=94, =93The Silent Within=94, =93Lucky Charms=94, and =93Asian Sky=94. It=92s nearly 70 minutes of = pure Vai, and will be in stores Sept 7 on Epic/Sony. A tour will follow, and dates will be posted in the Tou= r Dates section (see above link) when announced. by the way, metacrawler ( http://www.go2net.com/search.html ) is an excellent search engine. regards, pete ************************************ * email_address_removed icq:8888291 * * http://www.monmouth.com/~pgilman * * ---------------------------- * * "genius is the fire * * which lights itself" * * - neil peart * ************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:35:51 -0700 From: James Thorpe To: Subject: Re: Mullmuzzler... Message-ID: <012801becf4d$25d68600$92f8aa26@multimedia> > > Does anyone know when James LaBrie's Mullmuzzler CD is due out? >I listened to the sample (see previous messages for URL) a couple times >today and I want that CD! ;) > > Steve August 24 Steve. peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:09:37 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, email_address_removed writes: << Has anyone been successful in finding Planet X? I've been to my local Best Buy and Circuit City but no luck. When I asked the clerks about it they looked at me like I had monkeys flying out of my ass. Mike >> Same with me! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:13:48 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, email_address_removed writes: << << Has anyone heard the two new NIN songs!!!?!!! They kick large amounts of ass! >> AHHH, where??? WHEN??????? >> go here for a link and some really great news: http://www.nineinchnails.net/news/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:02:55 -0500 From: Dale R Newberry To: email_address_removed Subject: DT fan spotted in St. Louis/couple upcoming shows Message-ID: Hey, I was just down in the Delmar Loop in St. Louis earlier tonight and saw a dude wearing a DT shirt (the FII one with the three pictures on the front). Didn't get a chance to ask if he was on the jam, so if you are and remember some dork saying something about DT and pointing at you, it was me. A few shows coming to St. Louis of note to some of you on here also, Ozric Tentacles at Mississippi Nights July 22. Adrian Belew is playing Blueberry Hill July 25. Unfortunately, I have to miss the Adrian Belew show since I'll be in Chicago seeing Iron Maiden. I think that'll help me deal with it :). Also, speaking of OT, their latest (I assume) album was featured in a rather large ad in a St. Louis paper (Riverfront Times) for some record store. Thought that was pretty cool. Oh yeah, also, I went to the Cornerstone Festival a couple weeks ago. Anyway, I was hanging out at one of the tents, waiting for some punk band to play, I think, and noticed a familiar song coming over the PA. After a few bars, it hit me. It was Take the Time. I went straight to the sound man and complimented him on his taste :). I also met up with another DT fan around that same time that's not on the jam, but knew about a lot of the bands we all talk about, so that was cool. Also ran into Dan Temmesfeld there (if you're still on the jam, hey :). Dale R> Newberry ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:19:50 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4972 Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 10:17:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, email_address_removed writes: << Just read this little news clipping: > Citing "production difficulties," progressive metal purveyors Coal > Chamber dropped off of their tour with Insane Clown Posse and > Biohazard over the weekend. OK, I've never actually HEARD Coal Chamber before...... but something tells me they're not "purveyors of prog metal!" ;) >> they are not prog at all!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:33:42 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: LV/Mullmuzzler Message-ID: > LEMUR VOICE - Divided (Telstar-Sky TCD 20002-2) Is this import only? Can we get it in the US for less than $25? > Does anyone know when James LaBrie's Mullmuzzler CD is due out? August 24. It looks like it has a new cover too. http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/ Trevor-still pissed about Styx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:28:20 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Planet X pictures - 6/24/99 Message-ID: http://members.aol.com/planetxess/ Go there to check out pictures of Planet X: Derek Sherinian Virgil Donati Tony MacAlpine Philip Bynoe ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:18:15 +0200 From: email_address_removed (Jason T. Breitweg) To: email_address_removed Subject: AOL question Message-ID: If anyone here is from the USA and uses AOL maybe you can answer a question for me. When connected to AOL can you telnet somewhere. For instance get an MS-DOS prompt and type "telnet blind-guardian.com". Do you then get a log-in prompt? Also is it possible to find a list of local AOL dial up numbers somewhere on the Internet? I am wondering because I am thinking of buying a lap top but I want to be able to connect to the net when I am in the US instead of here in Germany. So I was just going to stock pile those free AOL CDs to accomplish this. But if I can't telnet anywhere then it is useless. thanks for any help people can give me. Jason -- +-------------------+------------------------------+ | Jason T. Breitweg | Home: +49 (0)40 23 80 90 98 | | Muenzstr. 11 | Work: +49 (0)40 89 98 31 57 | | D-20097 Hamburg | FAX: +49 (0)40 23 80 90 81 | | GERMANY | Mobil: +49 (0)171 176 79 37 | +-------------------+------------------------------+ | E-mail: email_address_removed | | http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg | +--------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:05:18 -0400 From: Cyberwolf To: email_address_removed Subject: DT MP3's Message-ID: Does anyone know a good url to get some of DT MP3's, for instance, of their christmas cd's and b-side tunes? Some of the sites located o n their official site have expired links and whatnot so I am looking for more stuff. Thanks brothers and sisters. Bytheby and bythway, like Mike said, everyone should goto http://www.ivorygate.com/fw and download the new Ray Alder tune from his forthcoming CD. Incredible is just the first word that comes to mind. Awesome is the second, third and fourth. Also, Kings-X is tonight, in NJ, so if anyone is perhaps going to this show, stop by and say hi, I'm a short dude wearing a Kawasaki shirt and carrying a semi-automatic (just kidding about the last part). c'aio. SM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:04:01 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: MP3's Message-ID: Josh Calkin wrote: >NP: George Carlin - Some People are Stupid Dude! Do you have any of his older albums? If so, I'd be willing to do unspeakable things for you if you could convert some to MP3's and send them off to me. :) Korg!!! Get your "Fragile eggshell mind" out of the gutter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW, Ray Alder's "Engine" is gonna rule! Check out the MP3! http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/a_engine.htm The entire tune "Alone" is available at the bottom of the page. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- About the Death-Metal vocals... I DON'T like them. End of story. To me, it would be like shoving hot (off the grill) bratwursts in repetition up my ass. I can't imagine it "growing" on me. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexis Ramos To: ytsejam Subject: Megadeth Message-ID: I saw the new Megadeth video last night, and the video itself was pretty cool. What I didn't care for much was the song, at least on first listen. I thought they were going back to their more aggressive style, but at least that song is very commercial sounding, not much thrash in there. I hope the new album has less of those songs, even though most of them are pretty cool, but the more aggressive Megadeth songs are just much better. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:52:04 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich To: email_address_removed Subject: Over 500 DT MP3s at LITS Message-ID: I recently posted over 500 MB of new Dream Theater MP3s at Lines in the Sand. I think you'll find something there you like, including: A Kick Into A Dream Consciously Unreal Acoustic Dreams Falling Into Infinity Demos (minus RTK and WAYN, of course) Chicago 11/1/97 You can also find some other miscellaneous b-sides and rarities in the audio section which don't fall under the above 5 releases. Enjoy, Bogie --------------------------------------------------------- Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/ --------------------------------------------------------- At 05:12 AM 7/16/99 -0700, Cyberwolf wrote: >Does anyone know a good url to get some of DT MP3's, for >instance, of their christmas cd's and b-side tunes? Some of the >sites located o n their official site have expired links and whatnot >so I am looking for more stuff. Thanks brothers and sisters. > >Bytheby and bythway, like Mike said, everyone should goto >http://www.ivorygate.com/fw > >and download the new Ray Alder tune from his forthcoming CD. >Incredible is just the first word that comes to mind. Awesome is >the second, third and fourth. > >Also, Kings-X is tonight, in NJ, so if anyone is perhaps going to >this show, stop by and say hi, I'm a short dude wearing a >Kawasaki shirt and carrying a semi-automatic (just kidding about >the last part). c'aio. > >SM ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4975 **************************