YTSEJAM Digest 4962 Today's Topics: 1) Angra in Australia by Luke Bateup 2) notreallyeverycd.com by "Trevor W. Hoit" 3) King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle by Outlander 99 4) Anathema by Graham Borland 5) Jens Johansson's Fission by Arash Ashouriha 6) Re: re-usable song titles by "TheCowGod" 7) Berklee dropouts by email_address_removed 8) Re: King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle by "Korg Ecksthrey" 9) Re: What's the story? by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 10) Re: King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 11) What's the story Morning Glory? by Nick Bogovich 12) RUSH midi help? by "Kevin Kurek" 13) When The Umbilical Chords by Jon Parmet 14) Tired of beating around Barbara Bush. by "Korg Ecksthrey" 15) Re: When The Umbilical Chords by Dan McCormack 16) LTE2 & Jordan by David Dixon 17) LTE again by David Dixon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 06:49:53 +1000 From: Luke Bateup To: ytsejam Subject: Angra in Australia Message-ID: Aussie jammers, Here's the latest news from the maintainer of the offical Angra website; "Well, the band was intending to make a mini-tour in Australia, but seems they didn't find any promoters or sponsors. So, until now, the tour isn't confirmed yet. The band probably will begin to record their new album until the end of this year, so I think they'll make just a few more shows in Brazil and Europe and they'll finish this tour." Bummer, same reason for no DT tour. Shite. Luke. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:58:12 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: notreallyeverycd.com Message-ID: > >Is it better to get your DD/DTS decoder in your receiver or in your > player? Thanks Al and Brian! > Subject: Online CD site > A friend saw a CD online at http://www.everycd.com that he's been > looking for, for a while. Does anyone have any experiences with this > place they might relay, before he plunks the money down? Yep. They want $35 or something a year to join. They don't really have every cd (big surprise) and their prices aren't that great, especially with all the CDNow coupons floating around. So I just took them up on their 2 cds for $10 offer and cancelled my trial member- ship before thirty days and all was good. ~Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 05:23:54 EDT From: Outlander 99 To: email_address_removed Subject: King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle Message-ID: someone blew: As prog metal fans we often complain when a band strays too far from the formula with which it gained its popularity (or notoriety). This, of course, goes against the definition of "progression," but the truth is the truth. I personally think bands can't win: if a given band changes the "wrong" way(see: M@talli%a), the fans moan. I cant speak for everybody but when Metallica came out with Load...i was there at a release party...these guys have been my favorite band for years then i throw Load in and guess what????....it FUCKIN' SUCKS!!! Then when re-load came out a friend who refused to believe they fell bought it...it was even worse...then its Garage Inc. which i purchased for my nephew but ONLY because he liked them already and it had Garage Days on it....OH GOD!...Whisky in the Jar is the lamest fuckin tune ive ever heard excpet maybe that "feelings" tune ;> These may be covers but still....a choice line of proof from one such cover "I even sucked an old mans cock, so what!" WHAT THE FUCK?????? Theres no moanin here Charlie, but pure and utter disgust. Are you saying that the new stuff is Metallica progressing??? Progressing into shit maybe....oh yeah..thats not it either...theyre already there. Meanwhile, back at the MEga-ranch....the man who was released form this so-called band is working on "Risk"...this Cd may not be thier best or whatever but ill say this it wont be a Load and Dave can smile his black-toothed grin!! Instant Karma?? not sure Outlander out _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:55:49 +0100 From: Graham Borland To: YtseJam Subject: Anathema Message-ID: I am miserable. (A misherable Shcot? Shurely not, Mish Moneypenny . . .) By now, I was hoping to have seen Anathema live again, performing their new Judgement material. The gig was cancelled (with no explanation). Bag o'shite. Instead, I'll just have to content myself with reiterating what everyone else seems to be thinking: Judgement is an exquisite experience. These days, I have neither the time nor the motivation to write lengthy album reviews (or even short ones), but this album really does deserve all the praise it's been getting (and more). Don't expect prog; it's not about shredding, or wanking, or virtuosity (although their musicianship and vocals continue to improve and impress). It's moody, atmospheric, passionate doomy metal which is both relaxing and inspiring. Anathema are the best band to come out of Britain in a long long time. I think you should buy Judgement. -- _________________________ _____________________________ |o o| |o o| | Graham Borland |:: | ePAGE Ltd |:: | email_address_removed.uk |:: | http://www.epage.ltd.uk |:: |_________________________|:: |_____________________________|:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:09:07 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: Jens Johansson's Fission Message-ID: <37850563.1100@fh-niederrhein.de> Hi Finally, I've got Jens Johansson's Fission. I can only say, this CD is the sickest keyboard work I've ever heard. It's a very uniqe pice of music. Very crazy and cool. I always thought Heavy Machinery is sick, but Fission is just another dimension. Jens, sometimes you drink too much (Stratovarius concerts in Germany) but as a keybaorder and musicians on your solo projects, you are a little god. P.S. How can I get Ten Seasons ? NP : JJ - Fission (track 5) Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:46:16 -0300 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: re-usable song titles Message-ID: <000801bec92f$2730ad60$81c55bd1@viper> ]From: Korg Ecksthrey Subject: Re: re-usable song titles >And also a Testament song by the same name. heh. ay ay ay, that's what i meant, not pantera. i was thinking of the testament song and somehow must have gotten it mixed up with cemetery gates cuz i was sure it was a soft song around track 5 on cowboys from hell :) well yeah. nevermind about the pantera song, it's testament. time for me to go take my smart people pills... moo. -- Dan McCormack (email_address_removed) Computer Engineer, WSBF-FM Clemson 88.1 http://wsbf.clemson.edu/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:31:51 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Berklee dropouts Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-08 04:45:04 EDT, you write: << Anyway, add him to the list of successful Berklee dropouts I guess. :) Apparently he studied there for a semester and then took off into film-making school. So, as far as I can tell, Berklee ain't no fucking guarantee, but dropping out of Berklee is? hmmmmm.... >> I hope that's true, because my brother dropped out a semester away from graduation...come to think of it he is doing pretty well now..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 08:54:59 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle Message-ID: <002901b80f9f$f593a7c0$message_id_removed> >formula with which it gained its popularity (or notoriety). This, of >course, goes against the definition of "progression," but the truth is the heh. Bad analogy on your part, though. I don't think Metallica ever claimed they were a progressive band. They always were a do what the fuck we want band more than anything. >Theres no moanin here Charlie, but pure and utter disgust. Are you saying >that the new stuff is Metallica progressing??? Read above. >Meanwhile, back at the MEga-ranch....the man who was released form this >so-called band is working on "Risk"...this Cd may not be thier best or Did anyone watch them play on Nitro, btw? I've been TV-deprived for about a month now and never got the chance to see them. My friend said he saw it and that it sucked blue donkey balls, but he's not much of a metal authority anyway. :) I"m just curious to know what the new tune was like. Happy day folks! The King of Terror is coming! Rah! -- KorgX3 falls from the sky and lands on Nostradamus. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:45:23 +0000 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: What's the story? Message-ID: Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Tom Walling" thus begged: > > > OK- here's what I'm thinking. . . > > What is the deal with UACM and Lines in the Sand sites? I mean, I don't want to be a bitch, and God k [excessive bitching snipped] It's funny how people who don't run websites like to bitch at how another website is not updated when the people who run the websites don't get paid to do it, but do it on their leisure. Why don't you run a website then, you peahead snibbler. So we can tell you how badly it sucks. Perhaps the fact that no real new news has been released is why they haven't been updated. -The Doc -- *#&*@#@*(#@#*@(#!@*#(!@#(&!#(@!*#@((#@$(#@(($@#($(#@$@#($@#(*$@(*$*(#(#(##(#(# computersarefasterthanhumans - devastatetoinnovate - hyperspacialparallelcomp\ email_address_removed = http://progmetal.gmsnet.com = internetcyberwetwaregamedev+ s*o#o$n@@c*o!m^e)s@@t>h gaMECoReTeKN0 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:12:31 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: Subject: Re: King Dave lays seige to Metalli-Castle Message-ID: <000e01bec95c$ae9ab020$message_id_removed> Well if it was anything like what MTv did with Fear factory and WcW(?) it mustve sucked...all we could hear were the stupid comments from the judges or wherever and the music was all drowned out... >>Meanwhile, back at the MEga-ranch....the man who was released form this >>so-called band is working on "Risk"...this Cd may not be thier best or > >Did anyone watch them play on Nitro, btw? I've been TV-deprived for about a >month now and never got the chance to see them. My friend said he saw it >and that it sucked blue donkey balls, but he's not much of a metal authority >anyway. :) I"m just curious to know what the new tune was like. >Happy day folks! The King of Terror is coming! Rah! >KorgX3 falls from the sky and lands on Nostradamus. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:16:50 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich To: email_address_removed Subject: What's the story Morning Glory? Message-ID: Here's the deal with the LITS site. It's called "I've been working 80-100 hour weeks for the past 6 weeks". Excuse me if I haven't been working on LITS. The site is basically something I work on to keep my web skills in tact. But, considering I've been building some amazing web sites for my employer, Zefer (www.zefer.com), I have had NO TIME to work on LITS. Hell, if someone was interested in helping me keep the news up to date, email me. I know I could use the help. I've even got nice administrative screens for adding news and other things to the site so you can update the LITS site from anywhere in the world. Anyways, some day, when I get around to it, I'll install my new 18 gig UW2 SCSI hard drive and start building the largest archive of Dream Theater concerts in MP3 format. But, seeing rants like the following lead me to believe that if I were to take on such a task, I would be like the coke dealer trying to feed everyone's addictions. -Bogie At 11:53 PM 7/7/99 -0700, you wrote: > OK- here's what I'm thinking. . . > > What is the deal with UACM and Lines in the Sand sites? I mean, I > don't want to be a bitch, and God knows they have basically done more > than anyone could ever have hoped for in the past, but come on- the last > update on LITS was in June; over a month ago. That used to be one of my > favorite sites; now it won't even load sometimes and half the time I > can't even connect to the server. What's the story Bogie?;) And with > LTE2 out for a month and everything else that is going on with the new > album and the such, you would think that Itchy could come up with > something. Granted, I liked the recent Mike Portnoy statement, but > frankly I don't really give a damn about Planet X biographies, which, if > I remember correctly were the only additions for the month leading up to > the 3 line Portnoy thing. It may seem stupid, but something as simple as > LTE album sales status would be enough to satiate my hunger for > information that I otherwise wouldn't have gotten here in Houston, TX- ! >ev! >! >en with > > all the shit I have to sort through on this list.;) So. . .I guess that > was my message for this year- I bet some of you remember the shit I > started last time, so let me say 'up yours' to anyone that doesn't like > it ahead of time.;) JK:) > > On a lighter note. . .I'm really surprised to not hear more buzz > about the new LTE thing- personally, I think it is an amazing > composition. The only thing I can blame as a possible cause is the > relative difficulty with which you are all seemingly dealing with in > finding your copies of it. I was out of town when it was released and > was worried that my guy here at home that orders for me wouldn't have > been able to get it until the next week- you can imagine my surprise when > I hear that some of you are still trying to get it a month later. Damn- > have you actually looked anywhere? I found it in Camelot music in a mall > in Ashland, Kentucky- a mining town of 20,000 population. Actually, they > had 5 copies on that Tuesday it was released. In fact, every CD store in > town had at least one copy, and the story wasn't any different when I got > home. Best Buy had 10 the day I got back. Why don't some of you try > some of those leads. Stores you might find that I saw it at: Camel! >ot! >! > Music; > > Sam Goody/Musicland; Best Buy; Circuit City. . . >So why don't some of you get off the damn computer and actually go out in >the real world to find it?;) It's DEFINATELY worth it. > > I guess that's about it for now. . .take it easy all- I'll poke my > head out again in another year or so.;) > > Tom > >Dream Theater newsletter: http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ >___________________________________________________________ >Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:27 -0600 From: "Kevin Kurek" To: Subject: RUSH midi help? Message-ID: <001301bec976$cd39e540$348894cf@204.50.1.2> Hello This is my first posting from a longtime lurker to the list. I was hoping someone could either send me or point me to a couple of fully intact midi files. I am a guitar player who wants to jam with Midi files rather than worry about organizing a band to play for fun. I was looking RUSH's "freewill" and "spirit of the radio" midifile that is fully intact. There are some great versions of this note for note on most of the midisites out there. Unfortunately it seems like someone kept uploading copies of these that were only half complete. The last part of the song is cut off. Also does the Analog Kid exists out there anywhere in Midi form? This would be great to play. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:25:18 +0100 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: When The Umbilical Chords Message-ID: Some random thought spewage on LTE2: WTWB - Ok, to me, the almost 3 minute jam on When The Water Breaks is LTE's defining moment. It's what I would play for anyone I was trying to turn on to LTE for the first time. As if JP's shred fest wasn't enough in there, the work that Mike does during parts during the 2nd go around in the jam around 3:40, is just sick!!! Check into the jam on WTWB, starting around 13:34 to get in the mood. That modulation shiz around 13:46 causes JP to thoroughly mop the floor with my ass once again!! Hey, KorgX3, can the Trinity make a baby cry? No, you don't have to take it to the local maternity ward to test it :))))) AD - If the heaviness in songs like Another Dimension are part of the "LTE infecting Dream Theater" process, then I ain't gettin' no booster shot. I don't see DT as being morphed from LTE. I think DT will retain the prog-rock/metal we all love 'em for at its core. They've got no problem with the prog part of it. Now if only Jordan could start using the sounds Mads requires him to, I'd stop bitching :) CHEW - I really like the insanity in Chewbacca. Makes me wonder how scary some of the new DT is going to be with the Kurzweil. Metal is supposed to be evil, right? :) This is a song to test the Al's The Ytse-Progtologist's system on. That main riffage that JP is playing, right in the opening then again at the end, reminds me of something else turned slightly inside-out. Maybe a Robin Trower riff or Lesley West? I can't place the song, but I shall not sleep till I find it. Is it me, or does LTE2 in general seem to showcase Jordan a little more? He's up in the mix, but I mean more of like during some of the jam, he's just taking a lot of leads in the jams as JP plays chords more like a rhythm guitarist would. Not that it's a bad thing, just a sonic observation :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 13:42:03 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Tired of beating around Barbara Bush. Message-ID: <000e01b80fc8$2a7b7b20$message_id_removed> >Hey, KorgX3, can the Trinity make a baby cry? No, you don't have to take >it to the local maternity ward to test it :))))) Actually, I tried to make it do just that once, but I didn't take into account how heavy the beast actually was and accidentally caved in the poor kid's head. I think I heard him squeak once, though. Heh. Now THERE's some sickass cynicism for you. I'm just bitter because I seriously anticipate the new DT album to suck as much ass as I thought LTE2 did. heh. Hopefully, they surprise me. IMO, Liquid Tension Experiment would be more aptly named Carpal Tunnel Syndrome as the abhorrable amount of wankery involved would make even Paul Reubens' hand tired. Bah. Finally, the truth is out, and I feel better. -- KorgX3 thinks LTE2 is TRASH and would put it in a TRASH CAN. NP: Nothing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 15:51:29 AST From: Dan McCormack To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: When The Umbilical Chords Message-ID: >From: Jon Parmet >Subject: When The Umbilical Chords > >Is it me, or does LTE2 in general seem to showcase Jordan a little more? >He's up in the mix, but I mean more of like during some of the jam, he's >just taking a lot of leads in the jams as JP plays chords more like a >rhythm guitarist would. Not that it's a bad thing, just a sonic >observation :) i haven't noticed that, but it would make sense, considering JP wasn't there when they did the jams. They jammed cuz he was off having a baby or some other insiginifact thing that shouldn't have kept him from the real important stuff: music. :) but yeah, if you'll recall in the liner notes they mention that they jammed in JP's absence, then when he returned he took the tracks and overdubbed his parts. so it would make sense, cuz i doubt when they were jamming they were going "hey everyone, lets chill for a bit, JP will want to solo here." :) moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:53:50 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: LTE2 & Jordan Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE77D@messaging> > Is it me, or does LTE2 in general seem to showcase Jordan a little more? > He's up in the mix, but I mean more of like during some of the jam, he's > just taking a lot of leads in the jams as JP plays chords more like a > rhythm guitarist would. Not that it's a bad thing, just a sonic > observation :) I think this has a lot to do with the fact that JP was gone part of the time and spent a while doing overdubs to jams that JR, TL, and MP created seperate from JP. Jordan seemed to be the driving force behind the jams, and that seemed to have limited JP a little. My 4 cents David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:59:10 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: LTE again Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE77E@messaging> > IMO, Liquid Tension Experiment would be more aptly named Carpal Tunnel > Syndrome as the abhorrable amount of wankery involved would make even Paul > Reubens' hand tired. I partially agree with you here - I feel WtWB could have been AT LEAST 5 minutes shorter. Take out all the guitar/keyboard wanking and you have a kick-ass tune. My favorite riff on the whole CD is at about 13:00 (right after the baby noise), but I rarely make it all the way there because I get tired of the extended wankery. "Acid Rain" definitely kicks my ass, as does "Another Dimension". "Chewbacca" doesn't do it for me, and neither does "9:14". But, "Liquid Dreams" and "Hourglass" are definitely cool and very moody. All in all, I think it would be a great CD if a little "fat" would be trimmed... My rating: 4 Korg's out of 5... :) David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4962 **************************