YTSEJAM Digest 4944 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4943 by email_address_removed 2) METAL on MTV! Vote for AMORPHIS....URGENT!!!!! by "Carlo D'Angelo" 3) Song names, cool albums by "email_address_removed.au" 4) BOSS ME-30. I need HELP!!!! by Henrik Hansson 5) Re: re: Dali's by "Rob Pociluk" 6) Re: Dali's by "Mike Patrick" 7) Re: Dali's by James Thorpe 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4943 by email_address_removed 9) Watch out for ... by Arash Ashouriha 10) thank you by Arash Ashouriha 11) Ref : Vote Now by "Derek Daniel" 12) Re: sands and sounds shifting beneath your feet by Rogerio Brito 13) Re: Bahr bootleg question by "Korg Ecksthrey" 14) Re: Watch out for ... by "A Change Of Seasons" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:11:00 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4943 Message-ID: << The one thing that may be holding it back is a lack of "catchy" vocals. Not that we want Micheal Jackson here, but the vocals (and vocal melodies) don't seem to stick well. They're not cheesy though, IMHO. As for the vocalist himself, he really reminds of the guy who used to sing for the Micheal Schenker Group (Gary Barden?). Anyone else see that similarity? (I guess that question is for the ytse-geriatrics out there). ;o) >> You want catchy vox check out the song "This Time Around"...man I love that song...:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:44:51 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" Subject: METAL on MTV! Vote for AMORPHIS....URGENT!!!!! Message-ID: Hail..... This is an URGENT call to anyone who wants to see some real music back on MTV for once (even though they will probably play it once and forget about it). They just ran a 2-hour long special in the states featuring independent labels, artists, and 20 different videos, etc. Well.....as I had it on in the background I nearly had a heart attack when I heard Matt Pinfield mention AMORPHIS!!!!!! and they played the video for "Divinity" from their latest album "Tuonela" (hail!) I thought that it was the coolest thing that millions of people across this vast musical wasteland known as the states was watching AMORPHIS! Although metal is slowly on the rise here....did anyone see the Billboard magazine from the first week of June....a 50-page METAL spread!!!!!! Holy shit they covered everything from ICED EARTH to DIMMU BORGIR to BLIND GUARDIAN to ANGRA to DREAM THEATER to TNT!...and tons more....... anyway....MTV is running an internet contest (that expires on Tuesday morning 06/29!!!) in which the most requested video from the "Independent" TV special gets regular rotation....and AMORPHIS "Divinity" is one of them! Everyone PLEASE go to the link below, click "Vote Now", scroll down and vote for AMORPHIS "Divinity" (you can even see it via streaming RealVideo) http://mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=/mtv/music/flying_indie/ I really don't care that MTV plays it for a long time or not...I really want to make the big promoters and record execs take notice that metal is ALIVE!! (so they can choke on their alterna-hard-core crap) "Forgive me if I'm out of order - this new 'music' has no soul. It may be good for making money, sadly that is not my goal." <---SKYCLAD "Penny Dreadful" (talk about lyrics and passion...) NOW GO AND VOTE!! (over and over and over and over....'till your mouse explodes!!!) cheers, Carlo (Fates) PS: Please send this to as many friends / metal mailing lists / web forums as you can!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:07:09 +1000 From: "email_address_removed.au" To: email_address_removed Subject: Song names, cool albums Message-ID: Heh, I was just listening to Megadeath "Tornado of Souls" and "Symphony of Destruction" and thinking to myself how they get away with such cool names. Someone said newbies to Pink Floyd should get Pulse, but I think basically anyone who doesn't have Dark Side of the moon should get it. I mean that is like THE album. No other album has as much integrity as DSOM. I mean, everyone likes it from my Mum, to teenie boppers to those of cultivated taste like you and me :) Then again, you do miss out on some other good songs, especially Wish You Were Here and some off the Wall, but you can get them later. I was wondering why people don't often mention Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield. I was listening to this the other day and its a great CD. I can see it having a big influence on Fate's Warning's A Pleasant Shade of Gray. Finally, out of the two or three sites with Planet X mp3s I havent got any of them to work. Could someone fill me in. I do think its funny though the extremes to which some people will take their hatred of others. I mean who ever this Kevin Moore@dereksux or whatever is, he must have a lot of spare time and anger building up inside. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:45:15 +0200 From: Henrik Hansson To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: BOSS ME-30. I need HELP!!!! Message-ID: Please, I need help... I have a Boss ME-30 multi effect. Now, I just can't get any good sounds out of it. Well, actually, they sound good, but I don't believe that it's all that this machine can offer me. So, if there's anyone out there that have some good patches for this little thingy, please mail 'em to me! It would really save my day! I'm specially looking for some good solo and rythm distortions. And everything else of course. I've found a site on the Internet, but it just didn't help. It still sounds too plastic! I want that "feeling" in the sounds!!! Thanks! -- Henrik Hansson E-mail me at: email_address_removed.se ICQ: 4646080 Dream Theater Page: http://hem2.passagen.se/lghomega Home Page (Guitar tabs, FastTracker mods...) http://hem2.passagen.se/hehapoco ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:00:22 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: re: Dali's Message-ID: As with any good prog album, Dali's Dilemma does take a few listens before you "get the point". I love the CD now. I got that Magna Carta sampler quite a while back to check out the Dali's tune and the Ice Age demo track. Both "Ashen Days" and "Join" took a while but once I "got it"...WOW! And now I'm wading thru the Ice Age CD the same way. It takes a while but once your mind "gets it"... New Tiles CD on Tuesday! Rob ---- Begin Original Message ---- ]From: Brian Hansen Sent: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:59:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: re: Dali's Pat Daugherty wrote: > Well the Dali's disc finally arrived. Well, they aren't the second coming... > They are good but I expected from all the great reviews the disc to be > something better. I'll listen to it more and definitely keep the disc > but what does everyone think is so great about it? I think that this disc may be a creeper. It really didn't "catch me" on the first couple of listens, then "Living in Fear" stuck in my head. Seems to be getting better with more listens. The one thing that may be holding it back is a lack of "catchy" vocals. Not that we want Micheal Jackson here, but the vocals (and vocal melodies) don't seem to stick well. They're not cheesy though, IMHO. As for the vocalist himself, he really reminds of the guy who used to sing for the Micheal Schenker Group (Gary Barden?). Anyone else see that similarity? (I guess that question is for the ytse-geriatrics out there). ;o) my $.02, BH _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---- End Original Message ---- "...so I've got that going for me...which is nice."---Carl the assistant greenskeeper Get FREE dreamtheater.zzn.com email at http://www.dreamtheater.net/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:06:58 -0400 From: "Mike Patrick" To: Subject: Re: Dali's Message-ID: <003e01bec09d$f0a07a80$message_id_removed> > Well the Dali's disc finally arrived. Well, they aren't the second coming... > They are good but I expected from all the great reviews the disc to be > something better. I'll listen to it more and definitely keep the disc > but what does everyone think is so great about it? No, it's not quite a masterpiece, but it is a solid first effort - much better than most out there. HUGE vocal hooks in the choruses. In this regard, I think they are VERY similar to Altura (speaking of which, it's a crime they only made one album). Oh, question: It's no big secret that 'Manifesto' was finished WAAAAAAY before it was released. What is the story with a follow-up? It sounds greedy, I know, but they've had a while to think about it already. Any news? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 07:50:32 -0700 From: James Thorpe To: Subject: Re: Dali's Message-ID: <003801bec0ac$6ae12340$8ef7aa26@multimedia> >Oh, question: It's no big secret that 'Manifesto' was finished WAAAAAAY >before it was released. What is the story with a follow-up? It sounds >greedy, I know, but they've had a while to think about it already. Any >news? They are still currently working on new material for their next CD. (I know that's an obvious thing.) Its more aggressive and i'm sure everyone will be blown away. Check out the japanese mag 'Burnnn.' There are some articles on the band. Off course, you have to read Japanese though. :) They are selling well over there. peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:26:28 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4943 Message-ID: << 914 and Hourglass seem like the forgotten songs on LTE2. All the other songs have had someone come out and say "Hey I like this one". >> I actually posted on the newsgroup that Hourglass is my favortie song on the CD. I dunno why, I just like the mix of accustic and piano . . . very beautiful work RaY np: LTE II ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:45:51 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: Watch out for ... Message-ID: <3776C5BF.4A4@fh-niederrhein.de> Hi here are some albums, you should watch out for : JULY : Derek Sherinian - Planet X (13th) Royal Hunt - 1996 live 2CD (27th) <-- US release. A must have ! Various Artists : Voices A tribute to Dream Theater AUGUST : Megadeth - Risk (10th) Crimson Glory - Astronomica (10th) Queensryche - Q2k (14th) Mullmuzzler - Keep It To Your Self (24th) Jim Matheos - Away With Words Steve Vai - TBA SEPTEMBER : Yes - Labber (11th) Ray Alder - TBA Royal Hunt - Fear <-- new studio album for Europe & Japan Bruce Dickenson - Live Vanden Plas - TBA Savatage - (I've forgott the name) OCTOBER : Empty Tremor - TBA Dream Theater - TBA Yngwie Malmsteen - TBA NOVERMBER : Tresure Land - TBA Amored Saint - TBA DECEMBER : Rush - Live video (Different Stages) JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MRACH 2000 : Arena - TBA Fates Warning - TBA Iron Maiden - TBA Platypus - TBA NP : Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World <-- Paul Craddick is incredible Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:46:10 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: thank you Message-ID: <3776C5D2.70EB@fh-niederrhein.de> Hi Just want to thank you all for your helping me with the MAJESTY symbol. You rules ... Arash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:26:13 +0100 From: "Derek Daniel" To: Subject: Ref : Vote Now Message-ID: <013a01bec0b9$c6d0ad80$103d63c3@default> Please vote now for your favourite bands, musicians and albums at Stormbringer http://website.lineone.net/~derekdaniel/Storm_Poll.html You will also find lots of news, over 300 reviews, interviews, etc Best Wishes Derek Stormbringer Webzine : http://website.lineone.net/~derekdaniel/index.htm mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:04:27 -0300 From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: sands and sounds shifting beneath your feet Message-ID: On Jun 26 1999, Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote: > depends on how you define "overall". I'm coming from that no man's > land where people think that there was a subtle, but very definite > shift that took place between I&W and Awake, from an equal > partnership kind of deal on the leads, to the ascendence of John > Petrucci as the instrumental leader of this band..... Please, add one more to the group. :-) I definitely agree with that assertion and it was probably one of the reasons why it took me so long for Awake to "sink in". Only after, say, one year after listening to it I actually "got it", I think, after listening to it with some relative frequency (self-brainwashing, perhaps?) But the fact is that I tend to prefer the "ensemble" impression that I get from the I&W era. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ (still an) Ugrad. Comp. Science student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:54:16 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: Bahr bootleg question Message-ID: <006701bec0c6$14023860$6c0d84d0@korgx3> > always found it difficult to believe that the horrendous acoustic piece > on Subconscious titled "Experimental" was actually Myung. Actually, I believe that acoustic noodling was in fact Bahr himself noodling on the guitar trying to pass himself off as Myung. Very poorly I might add as well. --KorgX3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:22:44 -0500 From: "A Change Of Seasons" To: Subject: Re: Watch out for ... Message-ID: <000501bec0ca$0dcb32e0$c647f0c7@o5h0w2> I'm interested in the Voices: A tribute to DT. But is it going to be released in the US and if so, what label? poj ********************************************************************* "Seize the day!" I heard him say. "Life will not always be this way. Look around. Hear the sounds. Cherish your life while you're still around!" ********************************************************************* A Change Of Seasons -- by Dream Theater email me @ ICQ#31820332 ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Arash Ashouriha To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:55 AM Subject: Watch out for ... > > Hi > > here are some albums, you should watch out for : > > > JULY : > > Derek Sherinian - Planet X (13th) > Royal Hunt - 1996 live 2CD (27th) <-- US release. A must have ! > Various Artists : Voices A tribute to Dream Theater > > AUGUST : > > Megadeth - Risk (10th) > Crimson Glory - Astronomica (10th) > Queensryche - Q2k (14th) > Mullmuzzler - Keep It To Your Self (24th) > Jim Matheos - Away With Words > Steve Vai - TBA > > SEPTEMBER : > > Yes - Labber (11th) > Ray Alder - TBA > Royal Hunt - Fear <-- new studio album for Europe & Japan > Bruce Dickenson - Live > Vanden Plas - TBA > Savatage - (I've forgott the name) > > OCTOBER : > > Empty Tremor - TBA > Dream Theater - TBA > Yngwie Malmsteen - TBA > > NOVERMBER : > > Tresure Land - TBA > Amored Saint - TBA > > DECEMBER : > > Rush - Live video (Different Stages) > > JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MRACH 2000 : > > Arena - TBA > Fates Warning - TBA > Iron Maiden - TBA > Platypus - TBA > > NP : Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World <-- Paul Craddick is incredible > > Arash > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | > | | > | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | > | | > | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | > |----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---| > | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | > | | > | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | > | | > | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: email_address_removed.de | > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4944 **************************