YTSEJAM Digest 4943

Today's Topics:

  1) Yet another YtseWar
 by "Rob Pociluk" <email_address_removed>
  2) Re: Names
 by "Sasha" <email_address_removed.hr>
  3) There is NO better list
 by J C <email_address_removed>
  4) Re: LTE2 sales
 by Michael Mah / HadeSlayeR <email_address_removed>
  5) "so much to buy, so little money to buy it with"
 by email_address_removed
  6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4930
 by "\"J?rgen\" C.Bakken" <email_address_removed>
  7) ftp not responding
 by "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
  8) 914
 by "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
  9) funny
 by "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 10) Sevendust
 by "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 11) Symphony X  web site
 by "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 12) CD Crap
 by Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
 13) Bahr bootleg question
 by "Timothy P. Shough" <email_address_removed>
 14) "upstate" and stuff
 by Joshua Rasiel <email_address_removed>
 15) 914
 by Brian Hansen <email_address_removed>
 16) re: Dali's
 by Brian Hansen <email_address_removed>
 17) sands and sounds shifting beneath your feet
 by Partha Mukhopadhyay <email_address_removed>

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:01:45 -0400
From: "Rob Pociluk" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Yet another YtseWar
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


This stuff really gets silly.  I mean, this is just e-mail.  And it's ju=
st music.  Sure the Jam gets off on some ridiculous tangents but that's =
reality.  No biggie.  Scan the subject lines and click DELETE.  As I sai=
d, it's e-mail.  We aren't deciding the fate of the free world here.  Tu=
rn down the old testosterone a notch or TEN.  And put away all the nails=
 and crosses, there will be NO crucifying tonite!  <grin>  "...the great=
 and powerful Oz has spoken..."

Rob
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]From: Frank Benenati <email_address_removed>
Sent: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Genesis... Firth Of Fifth?



Syrinx wrote:
> 
> > Uh... well... don't want to start another discussion, but hell, you=
 will
> > start discussions here by just saying "hello", so WTF...
> 
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 apparently, eh? :)
> 
Oh fuck you cocklicker! I told you NOT to write shit that enters my
inbox! =A0Die! If you want to talk to jammers, privately email them!

-m o j o m a n


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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:19:30 +0200
From: "Sasha" <email_address_removed.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Names
Message-ID: <007301bebff1$e5931dc0$51e91dc3@sasa>



>I've had a feeling for a very long time.

>Looking at Dream Theater and LTE stuph, [song titles, etc.] I keep
thinking,
>damn! these are the coolest names I've ever seen.  Titles of songs and the
>band names are so well thought and attractive.  I love it as much as ever.
>anybody else think the same?  sorry if it sounds like i just pulled most of
>that out of my ass, because i did.
>I'm not sure if i like LTE  or 2 better....

>thor

..and I thought that I was the only person who likes "nice" names. :-))
Yeah, well.. I really like it when songs and especially album titles have
nice names. Like "A Momentary lapse Of Reason", "Delicate Sound Of Thunder",
that sort of stuff... Like "A Pleasant Shade Of Grey", "The Divine Wings Of
Tragedy"... you get my point :-)).
Unfornately, even though I know the titles of songs on LTE 1 & 2, I just
heard "another dimension" version from the album and live :-)). I`m planning
on getting them both in the near future... hopefully.





"Lifting shadows off a dream
 Once broken
 She can turn a drop of water
 Into an ocean..."

John Myung of Dream Theater
["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"]

email_address_removed.hr
ICQ UIN - 6098813



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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:44:21 EDT
From: J C <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: There is NO better list
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Someone said:
I'm probably going to unsubscribe now. I'll look for another DT list where 
they don't let adults that act like middle schoolers post

Dont unsub man!...Ive been through these things here and let me tell you 
now....there IS no better list.
Sometimes people here will piss ya off but I have never in my life 
discovered so much music. (in any media format)
I have listened to DT for close to 8 years....yet before i came here I had 
no idea that other bands were doing anything like this.
Its kinda funny cuz I basically gave DT credit for progressive music.
Even though Rush and Yes and ......well you know.

Things will settle down now that Skadz has made his law known.

And Korg X3 is licking a cube of margerine and regurgitating it for a bird

Hey Korg!...try butter. It has a higher content of fat needed for nutrition 
purposes in the winter. hehe

Outlander out


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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:49:00 +0800
From: Michael Mah / HadeSlayeR <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: LTE2 sales
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


email_address_removed wrote:
> 
> A very reliable source tells me that LTE2 sold over 4000 copies in it's first
> week.  Apparently, that is significantly more than any other Magna Carta
> release to date (the first LTE only sold 1400 it's first week out).  VERY
> well deserved!

i dunno about the sales
but i just bought my copy today...
and it rocks IMO =)

laterz,
Mike aka HadeSlayeR
EMAIL:email_address_removed
The Oracles:http://www.cyberjunkie.com/cybersaint

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:21:53 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: "so much to buy, so little money to buy it with"
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


<<So now, my predicament, I have too many cd's to buy, Planet X, LTE2,
Chromakey Dead Air for Radios, Platypus, Shadow Gallery Tyranny, The rest
of Spock's Beard(only have Day for Night) :( So much to buy, so little
money to buy it with...hehe>>

I ran into the same predicament this last month, and with some of the same 
CDs too. I have found that the CDnow coupons that people post on this list 
are incredibly helpful--I just ordered 6 CDs for under $50! How do people get 
these coupons?? Thanks to all who have posted them.

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:25:48 PDT
From: "\"J?rgen\" C.Bakken" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4930
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


]From: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: christian "music" and myung
#><   believe it or not both Kings X and the Galactic Cowboys are
"full-fledged  Christian" bands..   ><#
#Some people consider King's X a Christian band, and they have stated
time and
time again that they're just christians in a metal band. So both bands
have
written some anti-abortion themed songs, does that make them christians?#
Jim
No, it nakes them Catholics.
Think about this, JP doing cath-o-licks.

JB @ email_address_removed


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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:26:16 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: ftp not responding
Message-ID: <000901bec012$241d5900$e23688cf@jammer>


This site isn't responding at all.. 

I like the email addy though.  


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>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:23:06 GMT
>From: Kevin Moore <email_address_removed>
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: Planet X mp3
>
>It's also up on ftp://193.224.164.146
>User name: mp3
>Password: mp3



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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:32:14 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: 914
Message-ID: <000b01bec012$f9e48540$e23688cf@jammer>


Well Joshua.... my question is, why haven't YOU purchased LTE 2 yet ??  heh
heh

Here's what Mike says in the liner notes about the song "914"

Improvised and recorded live on Tuesday, Oct 13th, 1998
"One of DOZENS of improvised jams recorded by Jordan, Tony & myself while in
the studio waiting for John after his daughter was born...If you dig this,
there is A LOT more where it came from..."

So what are you waiting for, those of you who haven't bought this CD yet
????
GO GET IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!   :)

 Jan-Michael

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>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:15:27 -0400
>From: Joshua Rasiel <email_address_removed>
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: lte2
>
>ok, so now that you've all bought a copy of LTE2, can somebody tell me
>if 914 is supposed to have anything to do with the area code?
>
>I figure there's what, 900-1200 people here, right? And since you have
>all SURELY purchased this thing by now, someone ought to know.


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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:57:52 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: funny
Message-ID: <001501bec016$8eb9b020$e23688cf@jammer>


Funny.....that page doesn't exist.  Maybe it's down?  Or yer goofin'..

I like the email addy though.. and the pictures in your little "galerii"
were ok.

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>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:12:20 GMT
>From: Kevin Moore <email_address_removed>
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: Planet X sux
>Message-ID: <message_id_removed>
>
>
>Don't buy Planet X, it sux, you can download the album from
>http://www.cafe.ee/~raitz/dreamtheater/



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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:09:27 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: Sevendust
Message-ID: <001701bec018$2c9a2440$e23688cf@jammer>


I'm really impressed with Sevendust.  Great music and lyrics.  Plus it rocks
hard!
And to think I got into them by seeing a commercial for their CD and tour
during a commercial break taping the Howard Stern E! shows..   heh

Korn??  yuck.

 JM
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Kurt Hampton <email_address_removed>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
>Subject: Off to see Sevendust!
>
>
>Bye all, I'm off in a few to go see Sevendust. For those not familiar with
>them, they are probably the best NEW metal band to come around in a while
>(i.e. Korn, etc) these guys actually have talent :)
>
>Kurt



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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:15:36 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: Symphony X  web site
Message-ID: <001901bec019$08c387e0$e23688cf@jammer>


Hey check out the Symphony X web site and also join the mailing list!!  Lots
of great inside info about Symphony X and other related bands!!

Check out the website when you get a chance:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/wellerville/3/index.html
It's got rules for posting on the list, Sy X info and News, clips, pics,
etc.



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>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:28:32 EDT
>From: email_address_removed
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: Symphony X

>In a message dated 6/23/99 11:52:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
<< maybe the songs were from their first album. Now I love Symphony X. i
have
 divine wings, but then i got twilight in olympus, and i realized that all
of
 their songs sound the same. which isn't a bad thing, cuz all their songs
are
 great. and they find different ways to make each song sound different, thus
 you don't notice that they've used the same riff in 5 other songs. if you
 don't get into heavy guitar stuff, you probably won't like them, but
download
 a few songs from the divine wings of tragedy if you havent already, it's
just
 too good to pass up. i don't think i've ever heard anyone say that Divine
 wings of tragedy was their 2nd best album. >>

I've always wanted to hear Symphony X, but where...?  Where is a good site
on
the net where I can hear some of their music?


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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:52:51 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
To: "email_address_removed" <email_address_removed>
Subject: CD Crap
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


CyberDuke said:
I like both "On the Edge" and "The Light" best, but CDNow doesn't have
The Light right now. :)
The quiz question is what shall I do? :)

First thing give CDNow the ass, find a real online store that has STOCK
and a good selection.
CDNow are not the only avenue open to you and others who can't
find what they want in a shop near them.
Here's a few online CD stores that leaves CDNow for dust:
 http://www.empireent.com/
 http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/
 http://www.cow.co.uk/audio.htm
 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4500/
 http://members.aol.com/amcyber1/Homepage/AM.htm
 http://www.gft-cyclops.co.uk/gft/gftframe.html
 http://www.aorheaven.com/
 http://www.loud1.co.uk/mainframe.htm

Graham





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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:25:28 -0400
From: "Timothy P. Shough" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Bahr bootleg question
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Greetings, people.

Several interesting comments regarding Bahr's Prism releases have
cropped up lately.  For starters, someone (Nick Bogovich, perhaps?)
mentioned that Bahr had tried to pass off some material as DT music when
it in fact was not.  I'm aware that this is the case with the "Autumn
Moon" piece on Scenes from a Memory; has he done this anywhere else?  I
always found it difficult to believe that the horrendous acoustic piece
on Subconscious titled "Experimental" was actually Myung.

Also, did Bahr rip off Myung's instructional video on Precious Things? 
There are a few odd tracks on that disc which are supposedly from
Japanese archival tapes.  Is this a line of feces?

Thanks for any info.

Tim

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:05:38 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: "upstate" and stuff
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>If Mikey eats anything, and
>offered no physical indication that he was actually enjoying it, then
how
>was it deduced that it was good?

yeah! Isn't he the LAST person you'd want as a barometer of how good the
food is? If "Mikey likes it.." that only supports the fact that mikey is
weird, and should have no bearing on your common sense. I'm sure glad he
died of that coke/poprocks cocktail.

>Long Island's code is actually 516, but Upstate, the area just north of
NYC,
>has area code 914, and in this region is Millbrook, NY, where
incidentally,

wow, that's very interesting. Hey, you know what would be funny, is if I
punch my fist through your chest and rip out your still beating heart,
all while bitchslapping you with my free hand. Now, that would be
funny.  :)

Ok, I'm a little sensitive about the "upstate" thing. New york is about
300 miles tall. Not counting NYC, I live on like, Mile FOUR. I can be on
the GW bridge in 15 minutes, and most anywhere in manhatten in 35-40. I
had to drive those 300 miles up and down to school for 4 years - that
school is 20 minutes from canada! And my county should be in the same
catagory? feh! Rockland would never qualify. On the obnoxious car scale,
the tinted window/tricked out supsension bimmers far outnumber the
sans-muffler "sport" pickups.

The Josh's are your friends.




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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: 914
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



Finally some discussion about this song and it's all
about the title...

914 and Hourglass seem like the forgotten songs on
LTE2. All the other songs have had someone come out
and say "Hey I like this one".

So let me go on record saying that I really like 914.
The "Egyptian" feel is cool, and so is that pounding
Levin bass. I also really like the soloing that JR
does. I would say that this song caught my ear first
out of all of them.

my $.02, BH

NP - LTE2

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: re: Dali's
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



Pat Daugherty <email_address_removed> wrote:

> Well the Dali's disc finally arrived. Well, they
aren't the second coming...
> They are good but I expected from all the great
reviews the disc to be
> something better. I'll listen to it more and
definitely keep the disc
> but what does everyone think is so great about it?

I think that this disc may be a creeper. It really
didn't "catch me" on the first couple of listens, then
"Living in Fear" stuck in my head. Seems to be getting
better with more listens.

The one thing that may be holding it back is a lack of
"catchy" vocals. Not that we want Micheal Jackson
here, but the vocals (and vocal melodies) don't seem
to stick well. They're not cheesy though, IMHO. 

As for the vocalist himself, he really reminds of the
guy who used to sing for the Micheal Schenker Group
(Gary Barden?). Anyone else see that similarity? (I
guess that question is for the ytse-geriatrics out
there). ;o)

my $.02, BH

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:55:04 PDT
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: sands and sounds shifting beneath your feet
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>I don't really hear so much of a difference in the sound of the >band with 
>the differing keyboardists (well, there is difference in >style, but I 
>don't hear the overall sound of the band CHANGING)

depends on how you define "overall". I'm coming from that no man's land 
where people think that there was a subtle, but very definite shift that 
took place between I&W and Awake, from an equal partnership kind of deal on 
the leads, to the ascendence of John Petrucci as the instrumental leader of 
this band.....

obviously, there was the "Kevin was about to leave" thing going on in the 
band at that time, so maybe Moore wasn't fighting for his as hard as he did 
previously, and maybe that's why Awake is far more guitar oriented (at least 
in my opinion) than Dream Theater's previous output, but i think that 
"between albums" break period represents for me an even greater shift in the 
band's sound that the change from Domenici to Labrie, or Moore to 
Sherinian....

anyone understand where I'm aiming this opinion gun? I realize I'm being 
kinda creative about my definition of "shifting sound".....

partha


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