YTSEJAM Digest 4897 Today's Topics: 1) JLMB - I just noticed something by Andrew Coutermarsh 2) Re: Hey, I still miss kevin. Is that wrong? by Lisa Marie 3) Re: by email_address_removed 4) '91 Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert for AIDS Awareness being sought. by Stephen Dedalus 5) Re: Queensryche by Kurt Hampton 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4896 by email_address_removed 7) Re: Show me the music by "Raitz" 8) new cds-no star wars content by "Trevor W. Hoit" 9) Top ten Video List by Chris 10) LTE2 & CDNow by Barbara B 11) by J C 12) Re: LTE2 (was: a good list) by Jon Parmet 13) Re: Hey, I still miss kevin. Is that wrong? by Jon Parmet 14) Majesty symbol in dxf by jOHN jENS 15) RE: Q2K by "Bernard, Chris" 16) LTE II kicked my Dutch ass by "Henri Serton" 17) rush be cool, man by Partha Mukhopadhyay 18) Re: Snare sounds by email_address_removed 19) RE: Snare sounds by David Dixon 20) KM, Awake vs FII by "Paul Evans" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: email_address_removed Subject: JLMB - I just noticed something Message-ID: I happened to be listening to JLMB in my headphones (which I do every night, when I need to be quiet), and I noticed that at the beginning of the song, there's a shaker going (I'm assuming it's KJLB playing it) while the timbalitos or tom-toms or whatever is going on in MP's part. Anyway, I noticed that the shaker is WAY off, rhythmically. Has anybody else noticed this? It actually THREW my rhythm off while I was listening to it - if I listened to the shaker as the main part, I had trouble finding the beat - the other parts sounded like THEY were off. Just pointing it out, I don't remember hearing about it before. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill it anyway because I already gave away all of his stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of humor. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:26:21 -0700 From: Lisa Marie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Hey, I still miss kevin. Is that wrong? Message-ID: At 09:12 PM 6/10/99 -0700, you wrote: > >But I liked Kevin. I feel that he was %50 of the sound, at least the >sound that I interpreted. And now all that's gone. These other guys are >good but it's not nearly the same, and I can listen to kevin's music all >I want; that doesn't bring it back the way I liked it. > >If I - or anyone else - wants to dwell, that's our right. I am SO with you. I'll even go as far as to say that they could have (should have?) changed the name when Kevin left. That is not to say that I think Kevin was the whole band... but that special sound that set Dream Theater apart from the pack, (to me) is just not there anymore. Oh sure, they're all great musicians, it's still great music, and I still enjoy listening to it... but it's just not the same. Flame away if you must, but that's my opinion. I'm off to sit in the 'dwelling' corner with Joshua, and pout... Lisa Marie "Jessie" email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:04:59 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Message-ID: > Why > didn't he play on FII like he did on Platypus...? I can't wait for Planet X. Why when he has the potential shown off on Planet X. Platypus is great, but Planet X is his SHOWCASE. Its got it all. It sounds like Vai writing in the 70s at times. 70s PROG with 80s technique and 90s production. The best of all worlds. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: '91 Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert for AIDS Awareness being sought. Message-ID: Greetings o ye knowledge holders, If anyone has any information how to get a-hold of a good coppy of the afor mentioned concert, could you e-mail email_address_removed privately? I really really really want to get my hands on a coppy, since the tapes I made of it way back when got spouged up. I'd really like a coppy of the radio broadcast. Any ino would be rad. Thanks. Be well. Matt B ============================================================================ Accomplished guitarist seeks band. Write for details. email_address_removed ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:36:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Queensryche Message-ID: I know it sounded confusing them "choosing" a label, but apparently, as earlier mentioned on the site, they had offer from 3 majors, not one. The new material kicks ass majorly. Kurt ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** "I remember Now" "Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy." Airheads ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:14:17 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4896 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-11 00:13:38 EDT, you write: << Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:20:13 -0500 (CDT) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Poison Tour Message-ID: Does anyone know of a webpage with dates? Check out www.poisonweb.com. I'll be at the L.A. show (w/ a backstage pass....being back in L.A. rocks)! has been chosen? you mean, queensryche chose atlantic records? you mean they had a choice? I know that their previous label folded, and that's why they left, rather than being bounced due to poor sales or leaving for lack of support (a la Kings X)...... They probably had more than Atlantic in the running. With John Kalodner signing Iron Maiden, Great White, and Ratt on Portrait/Sony, I'm sure he gave it some consideration. Even though "Hear In The Now Frontier" wasn't a runaway success, QR does have that "cult" fan base (not unlike DT and to a larger extent Rush) that record labels look for. Although Atlantic totally botched the job w/ King's X, they seem to have done pretty well w/ Rush. It'll be interesting to see what kind of a push they get. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:23:26 +0300 From: "Raitz" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Show me the music Message-ID: > From: Jon Parmet > I felt the same way about Age Of Impact. And that one doesn't have an > equvialent to Three Minute Warning. The first time I heard it was at a > friend's house and when Bozzio goes nutz there during the outro and then > there was no 'next' song, I went "that's it?" Damn!! :) So, given that Three Minute Warning was the absolute peak of Liquid Tension I (I hardly listen to anything else off that CD), there was no such thing as "peak" on the Explorers' Club disc. :-) But now to something completely different... I received Kevin Moore's "This Is A Recording" and Spastic Ink's "Ink Complete" just this morning and am listening to the latter... It's going to be a busy... weekend. All I can say for now is that the Jarzombek bros are nuts and should seek professional help, dismantled joints or not. :-) As for Dream Theater content... I'm starting a petition to get Dream Theater fulfill their promise, expressed thru James LaBrie's mouth, and return to Budapest this year. This YEAR, goddamnit. :-) I want Mike P. to sign another one of my Spice Girls' T-shirts. (Hi! Cross out Ginger once again!) Having had 4 hours of sleep after an obscene amount of booze really blows. Do not click here to continue. Raitz Be reasonable -- demand the impossible! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:17:28 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: new cds-no star wars content Message-ID: Yay, new cds! Greg Howe-Ascend This is prog-metal with blistering guitar work and shredding keys by Vitalij Kuprig of Artention. I bought this after hearing Greg's work on Vitalij's first cd High Definition. I've never heard of drummer Jon Doman, but his IS da man, especially on a surprisingly fresh cover of Rush's La Villa Strabiato. I don't have any other GH cd's but I understand they are more towards fusion than prog. I plan on buying some soon. Ice Age-The Great Divide The first thing that strikes me about this cd is how much the singer sounds like Dennis DeYoung of Styx (with just a touch of Meatloaf) Now I don't know about you, but I love Styx, so needless to say I like this band. They have a big sound for only four guys. Some DT influences, but no clones. Jordan Rudess-Listen Found this at Laser's Edge for $6! This is what I call prog-pop. Very good poppy songs with prog elements and of course great keys and amazing solos. JR has a good voice and I wouldn't be surprised to see him doing some back-up vox for DT. There is also a female vocalist on about half the tracks, which is nice. Kevin Moore-This is a Recording I got this over a week ago, but I'll be dammed if I have found time to listen to it. Too much other new stuff! Later Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:26:37 +0100 From: Chris To: Ytsejam Subject: Top ten Video List Message-ID: <3761007D.D627FEAF@wolfson.co.uk> No don't worry :-). For European Jammers (and top ten'ers) VH1 Europe are going to do an all night extended friday rock show from midnight to 6am on the eve of the ozzfest gig in the UK. There will also be another show which will be a rock top forty, the shows will be compiled from everybody's all time top ten lists of favorite videos - at last a good reason for top ten lists :-). To submit your top ten list head over to : http://wkweb4.cableinet.co.uk/radio/network/index.htm then click on the VH1 logo. The link will also take you to the playlist for this week, (pull me under was on last week). Chris- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:34:37 -0400 From: Barbara B To: email_address_removed Subject: LTE2 & CDNow Message-ID: >Of course if you pre-ordered it from CDnow, chances are that it will be on backorder just like Dali's Dilemma was. Grumble..... It only took an additional 3 days to get the cd, but still... am I wrong to expect something that I "pre-order" to actually be in stock? No you're not wrong. That's the same expectation that I had. I thought along the same lines as you that there must be some "initial X amount of cds" that CDNow arranged to have ready and would order more (creating the backorder deal) as needed. Now I've got this creepy feeling that they must wait to see if 100 people pre-order and then order something like 120 (laugh) from the distributors. Babs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:06:13 EDT From: J C To: email_address_removed Message-ID: >The following is a humerous version of The Phantom Menace. It's kinda long and gives away the story, so if you haven't seen it, delete now. < [snip. snip. snippety - snip.] WHAT THE F&*K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can't share lists of bands/albums we like for fear we may get turned on to some music we had previously been unaware of; but this kinda crap is allowed to take huge chunks of the jam?!?! Let's see: 1. there's no musical content at all; much less Dream Theater! 2. well, see #1. That's all that should matter!!! ugh..... CHRIS WOO!! That well so well said that i will not add.... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:27:26 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: Liquid Ytse Experiment Subject: Re: LTE2 (was: a good list) Message-ID: Lisa wrote: > Partha wrote: > > > >one question about UACM: "pre-order" LTE2? when does it come out, > >officially? > > This is the information that CDnow has... > > Liquid Tension Experiment : Vol. 2-Liquid Tension Experiment (CD) > *** Advance Order: Expected Release Date Jun. 15, 1999 > > Of course if you pre-ordered it from CDnow, chances are that it will be on > backorder just like Dali's Dilemma was. It only took an additional 3 days > to get the cd, but still... am I wrong to expect something that I > "pre-order" to actually be in stock? Dunno, but Jordan's site shows it shipping as of the 10th, for $12.99 (http://www.mediusvision.com/e-store/lte.htm#lte2) Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:43:02 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Hey, I still miss kevin. Is that wrong? Message-ID: > Why is it like that? Why the hostility, not just from you Calvin, but in > general, against people who like things the way they were? Sure, derek's > great, sure jordan's great, they're both great, the band is the > greatest, it's great, great, great! > > But I liked Kevin. I feel that he was %50 of the sound, at least the > sound that I interpreted. And now all that's gone. These other guys are > good but it's not nearly the same, and I can listen to kevin's music all > I want; that doesn't bring it back the way I liked it. > > If I - or anyone else - wants to dwell, that's our right. And obviously no one is taking that away from you. It ain't gonna change though, and the only point I was trying to make was that in the context of a new DT album having JUST been released - and in this case one in which Mike (and I'm sure the others) are very high on - it was just creates a negative vibe happenin' (ged, I'm old :), if the jam becomes dominated by flame wars over which way is better. It's one thing to discuss it rationally, another to start bringing in shit like 'they sucked with this sound, or when this guy left, it was the worst/best thing that EVER happened' Look I'm sure the guys want to hear criticism as much as praise. Constructive critism rules, the other sux :) JP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:48:02 -0500 (CDT) From: jOHN jENS To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Majesty symbol in dxf Message-ID: howdy folx, anyone have a copy of the Majesty symbol in dxf format? thanx. -- john jens email_address_removed http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:52:33 -0400 From: "Bernard, Chris" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: Q2K Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42CC4E559@PFC_EXCH01> Howdy, y'all.... Partha asked: > you mean, queensryche chose atlantic records? you mean they had a choice? < Well, yeah......Y2K was recorded without the band signed to anybody. Story i heard (unconfirmed, of course) was that the band shopped the record around, and was considering offers from 3 labels. They settled for the offer from Atlantic; they now have a little logo to put the CD and booklet so they can start pumping out copies of the record and finally get it in stores. Yeah!!! CHRIS =========================================== A Moose once bit my sister... =========================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:08:05 +0200 From: "Henri Serton" To: Subject: LTE II kicked my Dutch ass Message-ID: <000401beb41c$4f980780$058c6dc2@xs4all.nl> Today Friday June 11 LTE II was released in the Netherlands.=20 I now heard it once and it, is GREAT! Maybe the mood and spirit of it is made clear by the comment made by Jordan about Hourglass: "Jordan: After everything else is finished, John and I push for a few more hours in the studio in the middle of the night of our last day in the studio to create our duet. We are deliriously tired, but happy... We settle in to the main studio with an acoustic guitar and my=20 piano keyboard and the Millbrook recording sessions come to a gentle closing." I guess it must be great if you like playing your music=20 this much... Thanks guys! =20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:16:28 PDT From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: email_address_removed Subject: rush be cool, man Message-ID: lis'nin to gary graff do his usual Thursday bit with a local (Detroit) DJ, and he was talking about the Kid Rock, and how that guy is doing "Kyle' mom is a big fat bitch" for the south park movie soundtrack, and then he kept talking about the south park soundtrack and emitted this very odd/interesting piece of information..... geddy lee and alex lifeson are doing "Oh Canada" for the south park soundtrack did i miss something here? oh, and back pn the maiden kick: has Bruce DIckinson ever done any acting? i was watching something last weekend, no clue what it was, except to say it looked like some kind of Hercules rip-off featuring real people rather than gods and monsters (another incredible movie, by the way), and they had this horseback riding swordsman who looked an awful lot like my image of Bruce Dickinson...... partha _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:00:00 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Snare sounds Message-ID: >< If I remember correctly, at the clinic in May Portnoy said that he used two completely different kits on FII. >< Probably a separate, smaller set for ballads, like the one he brings out at shows sometimes or the one he used for the christmas shows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:34 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: Snare sounds Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809411@messaging> Yes - if you look at the same Modern Drummer I cited before (right before FII was released - MP's is the cover article) it has a picture of both kits ("big purple monster" and "ol' faithful", I believe he said). The smaller kit was a four-piece and was a (small) part of the kit he used for the I&W sessions and subsequent tour. David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed > -----Original Message----- > From: email_address_removed [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 9:04 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Snare sounds > > > >< If I remember correctly, at the clinic in May Portnoy said that he > used > two completely different kits on FII. >< > > Probably a separate, smaller set for ballads, like the one he brings out > at > shows sometimes or the one he used for the christmas shows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:45:58 -0700 From: "Paul Evans" To: Subject: KM, Awake vs FII Message-ID: <000301beb432$47bebe80$message_id_removed> Hey Josh, I agree with you. I like the Kevin Moore era DT better than = the Derek era. And I also like the Awake production better than FII. = Somebody said FII sounds like mush, and I can't agree more. The Awake = sound is awesome: crisp, clean, and friggin enormous!!! =20 I was also comparing Live at the Marque with OIAL, and I have to say I = like Live at the Marque better. Maybe it's the songs - OIAL is kind of = FII dominated, and that's my least favorite album. Maybe it's the mix, = I don't know. I just like the feel of LATM better - there seems to be = more energy there. As always taste is a personal thing and there is no right or wrong here. = Don't get me wrong, I like the Derek stuff, just not as much as the = Kevin stuff. The sound and songs just seemed so much more cohesive = during the KM days... Maybe to my ears there's just a clash between = Derek and John's sounds... Enough of that. Can't wait to hear the new LTE in 5 days! Paul NP: Simon Phillips - Another Lifetime Dali's Dilemma - Manifesto for Futurism Vinnie Moore - The Maze ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4897 **************************