YTSEJAM Digest 4874 Today's Topics: 1) RE: Iced Earth in Detroit by Jax 2) Houston jammer(Sort of) by Kurt Hampton 3) HELP with my sound equipment!! by Andrew Coutermarsh 4) Re: My equipment by Andrew Coutermarsh 5) Re: Houston Jammerz by email_address_removed 6) Metal vids by "Simon Long Krogh" 7) Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people by Andrew Coutermarsh 8) Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people by trent 9) badass new singles by Thurman Alexander 10) the lie video by Joshua Rasiel 11) gap dance chicks by Joshua Rasiel 12) Selling out? Whatever. by "Korg Ecksthrey" 13) Shirley You Jest by email_address_removed 14) G3 by CyberDuke 15) help a fellow guitarist! by shams 16) DT Videos by Kevin Carmouche 17) Re: gap dance chicks by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4871 by "J?rgen C. Bakken" 19) Re: DT Videos by Carlos Alfaro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:34:29 -0400 From: Jax To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: Iced Earth in Detroit Message-ID: Joe DeAngelo wrote: >If any of ye jammers are going to the Saturday night Iced Earth show >here in Detroit... look for me! >I'll probably be wearing my Iced Earth tour shirt, and I'll be a late >arrival (around 11:00). >Iced Earth rules......... heh Cool, Joe, so you were one of the dozens of guys there in IE shirts..wonder which one was you! I was the redhead in the Power of Omens shirt, down front headbanging with the best of em! What a great show! I got an autograph and a hug/kiss on the cheek from James Rivera of Destiny's End..that was cool :) Jax, Lady of the Oracle "..though life has scarred my heart, a piece of me still burns bright inside.." Power of Omens - Test of Wills ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:28:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Kurt Hampton To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Houston jammer(Sort of) Message-ID: Yo, I live in New Orleans, but we are a musical wasteland(seriously), so I would drive to Houston to see DT. Hell, a friend flew to Dallas a year ago this weekend to see DT. Kurt ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** "I remember Now" "Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy." Airheads ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: email_address_removed Subject: HELP with my sound equipment!! Message-ID: Since so many of you are audio and equipment buffs, I could use some help with mine. Nobody give me any guff over what KINDS of equipment I own, first of all because it was given to me as a gift and secondly, because I like it and it's all I have. Anyway, I'm using a Teac AG-V8060 Audio/Video Surround Receiver, which up until now hasn't given me any problems whatsoever (I've had it since Christmas). But now that I'm home from school, especially now more in the heat (I think it might have something to do with it), whenever I try to pull the volume up any high than 1.75 (I usually don't bring it any high than 2 or else it hurts my ears) with both sets of speakers on, it goes into "Protect" mode. I just tried moving it a little further away from my computer monitor (the right side was right next to it), but overall, the unit doesn't feel hot. When I was in school, though, it almost always had a fan running near it - would it be a good idea to keep it by a window or near my box fan so it could keep cool? Are there any other ideas as to why it could be doing this? I just like to listen to my music at a more than whisper level. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ _Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "Friends are people who'll help you move. REAL friends are people who'll help you move BODIES." ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My equipment Message-ID: Actually, I guess I don't need help. Moving my receiver away from my monitor helped, I guess - at least, it's not doing it anymore. I guess the extra room helped with a breeze or something to keep it cool. If there are any other ideas on how to keep my system running at optimal efficiency, though, please don't hesitate to offer advice. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ _Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "In the New Year, hold your right hand out always in friendship, but never in want." -- Irish toast ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:18:03 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Houston Jammerz Message-ID: A >Right here, right now. I live in Houston. Actually, >I live in Tomball, north of Houston. I literally live >directly across the street from the city. In case you >don't know, Tomball is mainly filled with a lot of >dumb, shit-kicking hicks. Yes it's true. Hm, so far >there's at least two Houston-jammers... my original reply was private but I guess I'll go to the list so others can know. Tomball eh? You're about ten minutes from me then, I live in the Spring-Klein area when I'm not at school at UoH. Palpatine "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time "Too bad! You were almost really evil!" -Shishio, Rurouni Kenshin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:07:27 +0200 From: "Simon Long Krogh" To: Subject: Metal vids Message-ID: <000c01beaae8$d60a81e0$1cc88e81@flskesteg> Hi, there! I, back here in Denmark, Europe, can't even get eMpTyV...anyways, I've seen the music-vids that DT has on LIT and 5YIAL and I really, really, really think that those kids (DT) ought to stick to making music and let Britney Spears, Boyzone and other sell-out-pop-sh*t-people do the videos! Take care now, bye-bye then Simon Long Krogh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:58:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people Message-ID: On Sun, 30 May 1999, Simon Long Krogh wrote: > I really, really, really think that those kids (DT) ought to stick to > making music and let Britney Spears, Boyzone and other sell-out-pop- > sh*t-people do the videos! This is the kind of statement that really bothers me. You think that just because this kind of music "sells" that that makes the artist a sell-out? Does it really matter whether they're writing and/or performing music that appeals? I haven't seen much of her stuff, but in interviews and the like, Britney Spears really seems to enjoy what she does and likes to make the kind of music that she does. To me, this would say that she is NOT a sell-out because she is doing what she loves. Do you really think that you have to be a starving artist to have musical integrity? Music is about doing what you love - not whether or not you make money at it. If she makes money at it in the meantime, what's wrong with that? Note that because I defend her, it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with her style of music. I'm not a huge fan of mainstream music, but I'm not as against it as some jammers are. Be a little more open-minded, people. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "No one wants to fuck with a crazy person. If someone tries to mug you, The best thing you can do is take out your money, and piss on it while mumbling and ranting. Chances are, they'll get scared and leave you alone. Of course, you'll have to wash your money." - Norman Calkin, on urban survival ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:35:30 -0700 (PDT) From: trent To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: sell-out-pop-sh*t-people Message-ID: --- Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: > This is the kind of statement that really bothers > me. You think that just > because this kind of music "sells" that that makes > the artist a sell-out? > Does it really matter whether they're writing and/or > performing music that > appeals? I haven't seen much of her stuff, but in > interviews and the > like, Britney Spears really seems to enjoy what she > does and likes to make > the kind of music that she does. My gripe with that type of music isn't the people who make it, it's the people who buy it. They mostly only buy whatever is popular and never think about the fact that most of it is inane shit. I like that Britney Spears song that's on MTV all the time, but that's probably the only one they play that I do like. The stuff I listen to isn't totally mainstream, but it's not totally "underground" either. I just have nothing but resentment for those people who buy whatever MTV tells them to buy. === *Trent "I couldn't breathe, holdin' me down. Hand on my face, pushed to the ground. Enmity gauged, united by fear. Forced to endure what I could not forgive." * Eddie Vedder, a man amongst men _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:04:17 -0500 From: Thurman Alexander To: email_address_removed Subject: badass new singles Message-ID: Hey - has anyone heard Brittany Spears stunning follow up to her tribute to domestic abuse? (Hit me baby one more time) It's called "I'll suck your cock if you kill my step-dad" Also - a surprisingly psychedelic departure by Ricky Martin entitled "In-a-gadda-da-vida-loca" Great stuff on adult pop-radio, you just have to look for it ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:47:39 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel To: email_address_removed Subject: the lie video Message-ID: I don't know. I think the Lie video is pretty good. I think it gives the casual MTV viewer, who's never heard of DT, an accurate idea of what the band and the music is about. Plus, I really like when they cut to the tunnel. :) I wouldn't buy it in a collection for it's own merit(as opposed to buying it because it's a DT video), like I did for Tori and Radiohead videos(not my favorite artists, but really good videos). But I certainly wouldn't call it "bad", either. I like to pop it in now and then. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:52:41 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel To: email_address_removed Subject: gap dance chicks Message-ID: >P.S. That spikey-haired white chick shakin' her groove thang in that video >will be my future wife. The gods have spake it. ;) I haven't seen this one. But I saw the go-go and the country ones, and I think it's the same people in those. Does she have really close cut, light brown hair? Mrowr! josh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:13:26 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Selling out? Whatever. Message-ID: <001601beab0b$7dc672a0$470d84d0@korgx3> >not totally "underground" either. I just have nothing >but resentment for those people who buy whatever MTV >tells them to buy. Heh. My arguement is that you are likely a hypocritical bastard saying stuff like that. I mean, I remember in Jr. High how I somehow acquired Bon Jovi tapes and Def Leppard shirts and the like... It wasn't necessarily because it was what my friends liked or because it was all there was at the time. It was also because >I< liked it. Strange how I still have a hella collection of BJ and DL stuff in my CD collection. Even further down the road when I started listening to STP, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana, I still can't and >won't< (even though alot of people will give me shit for it) say that I don't like it. I can still pick out those old CD's and rock to them as much as any Superior or Dream Theater album. Now, to pin the blame on the people that buy the music is completely unfair. Firstly, they actually >do< enjoy the music they buy and listen to, or they wouldn't buy it in the first place. Secondly, what they listen to >is< attributed to what they hear on the radio. Why? Because it is the most accessible medium to pick up one new music. I'm sure the average 13 year old kid doesn't hop on the 'net, go to Yahoo, and type in "Progressive Metal." I'm sure 99% of the average 13 year old kids doesn't even know that "progressive metal" is a musical form. But even given that 1% might know about it, I wouldn't expect any of them to track it down and listen to it. It's just so much easier to listen to the stuff on the radio that they like so much anyway. I've used my little bro as an example and I'll do it again. He's a full on 3rd Eye Blind, KoRn, Wallflowers, what have you listener. He's somehow been caught up in the hell-spawned telepathic mainstream mindlink that cautions him to avoid listening to things outside of radio songs or he'll be lost in eternal damnation forever. Anyway, I dropped a Galactic Cowboys CD on his desk one day and he freakin' loved it. He thought it was great and wondered why he'd never heard of them before. That's when I told him about the musical birds and the bees, blah, blah, blah. I've said it before. Whatever you do, don't throw anyone on the floor, play DT full blast, and give them noogies until they cry out (dishonestly) that they like it. It only makes them hate it worse and then they spread the word to all their friends to not listen to it. I think, actually, something like that is what caused the "keyboards are shit" idea alot of teenage kids have today. If you REALLY want to make an impact on the future of mainstream music, you have to take it slow and don't be forceful. Support your siblings with what they listen to. Try to get them to pick up an instrument. (It gives them alot of respect for talented players). Support your local high school bands and arts programs. I think, more than anything, that's the thing I really want to see from people. I could care less whether they love or despise the kind of music I (we) listen to. But if they can admit respect (however grudgingly) about the players, singer, what have you, I think that's the first step in getting this kind of stuff devoured en mass. :) Look at me, I'm spouting endlessly like the bog of eternal stench. :) -- KorgX3 thinks Gustav Holst would agree. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:41:01 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Shirley You Jest Message-ID: I read on the Brave Radio mailer that Kevin Shirley is going to produce the new Iron Maiden disc. Say it ain't so... NP: Edguy - Vain Glory Opera Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:44:10 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: YtseLand Subject: G3 Message-ID: Did some surfin' around ... What ever happened with that Satch / Vai / K.W.Sheppard with guest Robert Fripp thing??? Also, after the Satch/Vai/Johnson G3 , I read in a guitar magazine about 2-nd G3 project, led by Satch, and this time Marty Friedman was supposed to be included and some other ... Didn't hear news on this one too. -- CyberDuke "Now that I know that I'm breaking to pieces I'll Pull out my heart and I'll feed it to anyone Crying for sympathy crocodile cry for the love of the crowd and the three cheers from everyone ..." The Cure - Disintergration _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail email_address_removed.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:13:55 +0600 From: shams To: email_address_removed Subject: help a fellow guitarist! Message-ID: Hi all jammers, Can anyone shed some light on how to fix guitar intonations. the proceedings? I cannot find any book over in this part of the world on it at this time, my guitar has three types of tuning going along. I think it would be better if someone mailed me personally so that other fellow jammers won't be bothered with it. Also, I don't know if it's only me, but on OiaLT, JPs solo seemed a little (should I dare say the word) sloppy. anyone else had this feeling??? -Minhaz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:10:34 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Videos Message-ID: Well, following along with the discussions about DT's videos, I understand there are about 4 of them they put out...what I'm wondering is, are any of them available...I've personally never seen them, and would very much like to have them...If they're in stores or something, i'll buy them, or if they're on the net somewhere, no matter what size(don't laugh, I know of a site that has every single Fiona Apple appearance and video ever...heh) I'd like to know where so i could download them. As for what the discussion has really been about, videos are out there for the majority of people who care little about musical content, they care about image...they might dig the beat, or the words, but few care about what's really going on in the music itself, so MTV and videos cater to that. It's a shame there aren't more videos of stuff i like out there, because it would be interesting to see what images the director would match with the music, but hell, i like to listen to my music anyway, not watch it...:) np: Chroma Key "Dead Air for Radios" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:25:30 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: gap dance chicks Message-ID: Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Joshua Rasiel thus begged: > >>P.S. That spikey-haired white chick shakin' her groove thang in that >video >>will be my future wife. The gods have spake it. ;) > >I haven't seen this one. But I saw the go-go and the country ones, and I >think it's the same people in those. Does she have really close cut, >light brown hair? Mrowr! > >josh gimme that redhead -The Doc -- ------ email_address_removed -------------- ++++++ ---------------------- ///// http://progmetal.gmsnet.com ----------------==== Unix systems - C/C++ video game engine development =><=============== Administration ===================== Intranet/Internet Engineering ================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:45:53 PDT From: "J?rgen C. Bakken" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4871 Message-ID: 2. Yes, it is true.....my side-project with Neal Morse is now back on! 'That's cool!' We are scheduled to enter the studio at the end of June for a week or so to hammer out some music. The project is untitled at the moment but consists of myself, Neal Morse (Spock's Beard), Pete Trewavas (Marillion) 'interessting' and Roine Stolt(the Flower Kings). 'YYYYABADABBADOOOOOOOOOO! PORTNOY, MEET THE PORTNOYS, THEIR THE MODERN DRUMMER FAMILY'. 'Stolt is the greatest, woth the voice of Rogers Waters and the lungs of Kevin James, he is an remarkeble singer. Ya all go out there and get the Flower Kings albums. In particular Welcome Back in the World of Adventure and the 1999 releas "Flower Power - A journey to hidden corners of your mind" or something, it took me forever to type on the SONY Minidisc, which after about 4 months broke down, just to get two topics in one mail. I know the side-project thing has currently gotten out of hand, 'a-ha' but this one was waiting in the wings for me since last year and with Jordan now in DT, I do not want to do any further LTE albums...*sorrow* JCB ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:24:34 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT Videos Message-ID: Kevin Carmouche wrote: > Well, following along with the discussions about DT's videos, I understand > there are about 4 of them they put out...what I'm wondering is, are any of > them available...I've personally never seen them, and would very much like > to have them...If they're in stores or something, i'll buy them, I dont know where in the world you are ( if the vid's avaiability is scarce ) but if you buy Live in Tokyo, and the recent 5 years in a livetime ( or was it lifetime for the video) you will be able to see every DT video..plus some VERY awesome live performances. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4874 **************************