YTSEJAM Digest 4817 Today's Topics: 1) My First DT Experience by "Giannotti, Nick" 2) Re: My First DT Experience by Frank Benenati 3) Tower's Listening Station, random memories by Rachel Goldenberg 4) First DT experience by "Simon Long Krogh" 5) Aw eit den (In your best "Sling Blade" voice) by "Al @ Switchcraft" 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4816 by "JOSKOE" 7) Recommendation Wanted by "Bernard, Chris" 8) Happy birthday Mike Portnoy by email_address_removed.ar 9) My DT experience by Ryan Park 10) Re: Recommendation Wanted by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 11) Artistic appearance... by Brian Hansen 12) Jack Starr & Chris Collins by "Harry D' Amour" 13) ptacek told me to by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 14) oh forgot by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 15) re: re: Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE: by email_address_removed 16) Re: Recommendation Wanted by "Kez" 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4816 by Fernando Rauber ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:40:05 -0400 From: "Giannotti, Nick" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: My First DT Experience Message-ID: How did I get into them? Yul Brenner came to me in a dream, surrounded by a glowing yellow light (not unlike the color of urine), and admonished me to stop smoking. Standing there, bathed in his golden glow, in his Persian silks, he said to me, "You really should stop that shit, kiddo. It'll kill you. Hell, look at my friggin' head!" Then he stood there and gave me that glare that he used to give, you know, the one that'd curdle milk and make all his concubine's kids run screaming for their very lives? Yeah, that one. And the background music happened to be "Lie." So I'm still smoking. Nicholas Giannotti x6745 Joint STARS Contracts email_address_removed ---------------------------------- Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:51:36 -0400 From: Frank Benenati To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: My First DT Experience Message-ID: Doesn't this thread sorta fall into the same lines as "My Top ten favorite dt songs:"???? -mojo -- /\ /\ \_\/_/ / _ _ \ |\ \(*)(*)/ /| #-----------------OOO- \oo/--OOO------------# # Frank Benenati - email_address_removed # # "Some of the nicest people are dogs" # # - Richard Dean Anderson # #__________________________ooo______________# ooo (_) (_) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:36:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Goldenberg To: email_address_removed Subject: Tower's Listening Station, random memories Message-ID: After almost Passing Over Josh Rasiel's post, but reading it anyway, I thought I'd reminisce. I remember being home for October break after Awake was released and buying it. I remember changing the process name on the vax system to "I got Awake Over Da Break" and only a few ppl. understood. I remember this was _just_ before I joined the jam. I wonder if the Vincent- Soulstlr guy who was friends with Chad - Rainbird from bitnet masrelay (pre-irc) is still on the list. They were the ones who told me to join the list (you can blame them if you want :)... I had I&W and had no idea there was an album before it, or that Awake was being written, etc... Anyway, fast forward a bit and I was back home on LI for winter break or something.. and I always used to check the listening stations, cause sometimes they had stuff to check out.. so I saw they had Awake and I listened and listened, and was happy, cause my cd player was back at school. I got home kind of late that night and everyone was wondering what happened to me. It was fun. That doesn't answer the question of how I first found DT,either you've heard my story before, or e-mail me and I'll tell you, or check out my web page (though outdated) at www.li.net/~wisha Sorry this post is a little incoherent. Going to see NEIL YOUNG tonight (@MSG) (tonight's the night) and I'm quite happy. If anyone else is going, let me know, or find me or something- gonna be good. Gotta go back to work.... -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:34:58 +0200 From: "Simon Long Krogh" To: "The Ytsejam Mailinglist" Subject: First DT experience Message-ID: <000201be8a97$2d213b80$93ca8e81@flskesteg> I know that we've already had far too many of these...but what the hell? I was at a friend's playing computer, and he put on Awake in the background. Without knowing, I started airdrumming to Erotomania...which nearly broke my arms :) Anyway, I just sort of thought to myself to remember to ask my friend what the music was and then went back to the computer. Then, all of a sudden, my friend asked all of us (we were 6-8 guys playing network) to be quiet and listen to the JP's guitar-solo (the one at 5:05-5:25) and then i was sold! I also had a more recent experience with DT...wanna hear??? Sure you do! My mom just told me that she had just washed my DT-T-shirt, but she couldn't remember the name (Dreamtheater) so she went MOM: "I just washed your ...whatsit...Megadeth-T-Shirt" ME: "It's Dreamtheater, mom" MOM: "Sure...Dreamtheater...Megadeth...what's the difference anyway?" WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?!?!?!?!? If she wasn't my mom, i don't know what i'd have done... well...that's it. Have fun now. Simon Krogh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:05 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Aw eit den (In your best "Sling Blade" voice) Message-ID: Neil Gallop wrote: >Who said cars (or automobiles to our freinds across the pond) > have no business being on the Jam? Rubbish. Never heard of > Pantera and Vanden Plas? Great cars and great bands. If my Let us not forget the band known as "The Cars" They had cool looking MOPARS on more than one album cover. (Candy-O and Heartbeat City) Sorry, I had to do that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce, I DO UNDERSTAND your point. I just thought the delivery was tacky. If it had looked like this: you don't like PINK FLOYD? you don't like RUSH? you don't like ELTON JOHN? you don't like TORI AMOS? You'd have never heard a word from me. There are many people that don't like the the above artists, But not because they completely suck. Incidentally, I like all of them. *** The above "suck" comment was a opinion by the author *** *** As most of us know, opinions are like assholes *** *** I can shamelessly admit to possessing both in surplus *** Next week - - - The Asshole: an in depth look -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shit! Now I need to change that "G" to a "c" ^ ^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:20:23 +0200 From: "JOSKOE" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4816 Message-ID: <000301be8a99$ad7c81c0$8e643dc3@joskoe> hoi als je zin hebt om eens te kijken en eventueel mee te doen dan moet je morgenavond om half 8 savonds bij sportschool jurriens zijn(catharinastraat) groeten van jossie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:11:14 -0400 From: "Bernard, Chris" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Recommendation Wanted Message-ID: <18DB7F3D6363D1119B080060083FF42CC4E502@PFC_EXCH01> Howdy, y'all... i'd like to take a minute and pick the collective brain that is "The Jam" i've decided to expand my CD collection and include some instrumental(preferably solo), acoustic guitar works. i'd like some recommendations, please. Style isn't necessarily important -- Classical, Spanish/Flamenco, etc... doesn't matter at this point, i wanna try it all. :-) -- feeling and composition are. If any of have favorites, please let me know. Thanks in advance!!! NP: Ride Of The Valkyries - Wagner CHRIS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "No aliens, psychopaths, or MTV hosts Scares me like Vampires, Mummies, and the Holy Ghost." Jimmy Buffett ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 1999 09:11:36 GMT -0300 From: email_address_removed.ar To: email_address_removed Subject: Happy birthday Mike Portnoy Message-ID: Remember Tomorrow is Mr. Portnoy Birthday!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:32:50 -0400 From: Ryan Park To: email_address_removed Subject: My DT experience Message-ID: OK, since we're ALL talking about it... A couple of friends of mine got me into Rush in spring 1994. I became a HUGE Rush fan and bought nearly 20 albums over the summer. (Kinda expensive for a high school student with no big income!) I also subscribed to The National Midnight Star, the Rush Internet mailing list. (Do y'all need the description? I bet 80% of you are subscribed to TNMS now...) Anyway, in spring 1995, I had read a lot about a lot of different bands, from Queensryche to Pink Floyd to Dream Theater. I was on vacation in San Diego and saw two books of sheet music for DT music. (I believe they were Awake and I&W, and piano/vocal sheet music as opposed to tab, but everyone tells me that a published piano/vocal score doesn't exist .) The cover art looked kinda cool, as did the song titles, and I figured I should pick up the CD someday. A few weeks later, I found Awake at a local Best Buy, and bought it as a spur-of-the-moment purchase. I put it on in the background, caught the drum intro to 6:00, and thought, "These guys are pretty cool!" Within a week, I couldn't put the CD down. I remember long car trips that year where I would listen to Awake on repeat; I remember taking the CD to school and listening throughout study halls (and classes? ) To this day, Awake is my favorite CD in my 150+ disc collection. It's SO disheartening to see my favorite CD in the $3.99 bin at record stores, but I suppose that's what I get for being a progrock fan! Speaking of the discount bins: Found two copies of Rudess-Morgenstein Project for $5.99, a few copies of King's X "Dogman" for $2.99, and one of their self-titled album for $3.99, at the local Tower Records. Unfortunately, they were all cut-outs. The notch cut out of the case indicates that the artist gets NO money for the CD, correct? The discs were reported as "destroyed" to the artist, correct? I bought two King's X discs to try to convert some of my friends. (My goal is to get a couple of friends to go out and purchase more of their albums, therefore using the cut-out CD as a "marketing" item.) If the artists DO in fact receive royalties, I'll try to pick up the RPM discs for any of you that want them. Otherwise, buy a legit copy so that Jordan & Rod can earn *something* this year... :) Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:36:35 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Recommendation Wanted Message-ID: "Bernard, Chris" wrote: > Howdy, y'all... > > i've decided to expand my CD collection and include some > instrumental(preferably solo), acoustic guitar works. i'd like some Strunz & Farah live ... or The Guitar trio - Dimeola, DeLucia and Mclaughlin, or Friday night in san francisco from said trio.. -- Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:email_address_removed/ICQ # 1254229 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: Artistic appearance... Message-ID: Joe DeAngelo wrote: > Unlike Fates Warning, "Vanilla" is an artist whose popularity is (was) > 99% because of his looks/image, and marketing (making young boys want > Once again, unlike FW, Britney is an artist whose popularity is a > result of her looks and image. IF she was an AVERAGE LOOKING person (like the > guys in most rock groups, for example), she wouldn't have sold shit for > albums. This brings to mind an interesting point... Does looks/image really effect the music? I don't have the faintest idea what Britney's music sounds like, but since she's supposedly so attractive, some people accuse her of being only a pretty face. But what if she wasn't so attractive? It's quite possible that she could release the same music, and be taken much more seriously, just because she wasn't attractive. It's an ironic paradox. (But I'm not saying that Britney IS good, I've never heard her.) Let's just suppose that Aretha Franklin and Shania Twain both have music that is equal in artistic value. They both had problems/benefits with their careers based on their appearence (but for opposite reasons). I guess the real test is time. If music can be respected years after the marketing, hype, trend and looks of the artist are gone, then it must have been good music. just rambling, BH _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:25:13 +0300 From: "Harry D' Amour" To: Subject: Jack Starr & Chris Collins Message-ID: This snippet's from Metal Invader magazine (Greece): "Jack Starr, ex-Virgin Steele guitarist, is now releasing the "Conspiratos Santos" EP. Vocalist is Chris Collins (Majesty)." Any of you heard anything else about this? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:04:21 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: ptacek told me to Message-ID: heard PMU on the radio, liked it but wasn't overwhelmed heard TTT, was overwhelmed friend bought album after hearing PMU thinking wow new metallica like band it wasn't, he didn't like it that much after all he dubbed me a copy of I&W few months later, he gave up on DT, and sold me the disc, approx. 4 years before i got a CD player of my own end of the story of my beginning to like DT partha (maybe chris is right...i should save this and parade it out again next year) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:35 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: oh forgot Message-ID: am wearing original ytsejam shirt today got a comment :) something along the lines of, "petrucci is amazing" then the bastard went and beat me 6 games to one in ping pong i think i was just stunned to get a positive and unsolicited comment about Dream Theater :) partha _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:17:57 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: re: re: Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE: Message-ID: I was at the Ice Age show on last Saturday and I'm glad to see others on this mailing list were there as well. Well, Ice Age was awesome! I was completely blown away from the first song on. Never was there a dull moment throughout their flawless performance. As stated before, they opened with Perpetual Child(formally known as The Great Divide), great song! They also played Sleepwalker(the new sound clip just added to their website), an incredible instrumental entitled Spare Chicken Parts, the epic song Ice Age and a few other songs as well. Josh Pincus was just amazing as he sang and played his busy keyboards riffs and solos. Jimmy Pappas is IMO the "next" guitarist to watch for. The rhythm section is also just outstanding and we were treated to a drum solo that even had a few brothers in the audience dancing. Bottom line GREAT SHOW and I cant wait till the next one! Later, Ricky C! << Date: 18 Apr 99 22:00:11 -0500 To: email_address_removed Subject: re: Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE: Message-ID: Hello everyone, Since my friend Ytsejim is so bad at writing reviews, here's my review of the Ice Age show. It was nice to see a Magna Carta band that actually plays live gigs. The only problem was that the sound in the venue sucked. You couldn't hear the guitar at all, even if you were on the guitarist's side. Even with those problems, Ice Age kicked major ass. They opened with "The Great Divide," the song that's on the Powermad compilation. Their music is definitely heavily influenced by DT, especially the keyboard and guitar. The drummer uses just one bass drum but has the peddle for the double bass effect (sorry, I ain't a musician, so I don't know what it's called). The opening song impressed me as did the instrumental they played a few songs later. Within the instrumental (I do not know any more song titles) came a kick ass drum solo that would rival MP's or even Carl Palmer's (or for a more obscure drummer, Rich Behrends from Mastermind, who blew me away with his solo at Powermad). The! ! ! vocalist, who does double duty on keyboards and is a very busy man throughout the show, sounds just like Dennis DeYoung from Styx. The opening band for the show was pretty interesting. It was called the Jim Walsh Band (or something like that) and was comprised of vocals, two acoustic guitarists, a really cute female bassist and a drummer who seemed to be out of place and would probably fit in better in a heavy metal band. The double acoustic and no electric set up provided some interesting sounds, but all of the songs sounded the same to me. Like Jim, I received the promo disc from One, and I was very impressed also. As a matter of fact, I think I've listened to the tape about 10 times already. Take care, Adam Perkowsky (a.k.a. Perk -- Was that a good review, Ytsejim?) > ** Original Subject: YTSEJAM digest 4814 > ** Original Sender: email_address_removed > ** Original Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:14:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: James Lutz > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Ice Age, One, and DEREK TOUR DATE! > Message-ID: > > > Saw the Ice Age show in NY yesterday at the VooDoo Lounge. > The band was phenomenal! I had seen this band at the last > powermad but did not remember what they had sounded like. > It's kind of hard to remember all 20 or so bands in 3 days. > They had a good sound, but the guitars were a little low > in the mix, but that is not out of the ordinary for the > voodoo lounge. Definately gonna pick up their new album > on Magna Carta on June 1st. They are definatley influenced > by Dream Theater. So any DT fans should check them out! > > http://www.ice-age.com/ > > At the show, I was handed a tape of a band called 'One'. > I'm listening to the tape as we speak, and I do have to > say, I am VERY impressed! I hear lots of Queensryche in > their music with a little Dream Theater thrown in. > > http://www.one-music.com/ > > I'm gonna ask both bands if i can put up an MP3 of their > songs up on my server so you guys can check em out. > > LAST BUT NOT LEAST! > As i was walking into the club, I saw a strange sign posted > on the wall. Get this : > > April 29th at the Voodoo Lounge > Gilby Clarke (Ex-Guns n' Roses) > Eric Singer (Ex-Kiss) > Derek Sherinian (Ex-Dream Theater) > > Sounds like a pretty ass kickin' night, On my birthday no less :) > Check out the bands! and if someone else saw the show > cough*perk*cough > Please post a review! Because my reviews suck :) > take care > ~YtseJim >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:37:12 -0400 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: Recommendation Wanted Message-ID: <006c01be8aac$c9838400$0200005a@Kez> -----Original Message----- ]From: Bernard, Chris To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 8:22 AM Subject: Recommendation Wanted >i'd like to take a minute and pick the collective brain that is "The Jam" >i've decided to expand my CD collection and include some >instrumental(preferably solo), acoustic guitar works. >snip< I would recommend a disc by Michael Schenker. It's called "Thank You". It's all acoustic, nobody but Michael (though there are overdubs), and covers many different styles and moods. Just ignore the speaking part at the end. I do. :) Also get anything with Al DiMeola. He's good. Acousticly yours, Kez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:21:28 -0300 From: Fernando Rauber To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4816 Message-ID: > On Apr 18 1999, Fernando Rauber wrote: > > > > OK, here is mine: In 1998, I started to like metal bands such as > > Angra, Metallica, Iron Maiden, etc. Them I saw a post by Rogerio > > Brito on RBT, the biggest brazilian message network on a BBS about > > some of his favorite bands. One of them was Dream Theater :). > > I'm always glad to help. :-) Also, after reading so many messages you posted to the ytse-br mailing list about Gentle Giant, I finally bought Free Hand and I loved it :). One of my top 10 discs ever, and also one of Jordan Rudess's top 5! -- []s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4817 **************************