YTSEJAM Digest 4769 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Bach? by email_address_removed 2) Tourniquet is on metal blade by O-P Komonen 3) Re: Bach? by Andrew Coutermarsh 4) Pink Floyd and Rush s** appeal by Mike Pontrelli 5) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4653???? by "Trevor W. Hoit" 6) Re: Azazello - '98 (Russian Prog) by Peter Tatischev 7) Michael Harris-Defense Mechanizms cd on ebay by Kevin 8) JPM guitars for sale by "Brandon Vaughn" 9) re: Bartleby / Silent Man by Rachel Goldenberg 10) internet by Pat Daugherty 11) Re: JPM guitars for sale by Frank Benenati 12) Bach/Gould by David Dixon 13) Re: communication, spectrally (ZDTC) by NuGgeTMaN 14) Re: Bach/Gould by Carlos Alfaro 15) 115 Jams ago by "Christopher Files" 16) Re: Crackerjack clothes!!!!! ....(lol!!) by Brad Plumb 17) Re: 115 Jams ago by Brad Plumb 18) Concert After-Party by RonnyJ 19) Dream Theater Voting Online! by "Kevin A. Loechner" 20) Myung's expendability by "Giannotti, Nick" 21) Tomorrow in NJ by email_address_removed 22) Time, Cheese (the kind you eat), Rudess' sounds by Jon Parmet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:50:52 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bach? Message-ID: Well since this talk of classical music has come up, i feel the need to throw in my two cents. would anyone argue the opinion that Franz Liszt is the greatest piano player ever? well he is. -Nick Now listening to Liszt's "The Mephisto Waltz" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:25:59 +0200 From: O-P Komonen To: email_address_removed Subject: Tourniquet is on metal blade Message-ID: As earlier reported Tourniquet has inked multi-album deal with metal blade, more info can be found at http://members.aol.com/tourniqt/mblade.htm What is intresting (at least IMO) is this part "..This will be a very heavy, aggressive, and progressive album. Great sounds are anticipated with Bill Metoyer producing.." Looks like they're getting back to the Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance sound.. HOORAY! op777 Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:43:42 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Bach? Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 email_address_removed wrote: > Well since this talk of classical music has come up, i feel the need to throw > in my two cents. would anyone argue the opinion that Franz Liszt is the > greatest piano player ever? well he is. Actually, I think Liszt was a fabulous piano player. But the guy had a huge advantage over everybody else - namely that he could reach two octaves with his hands. Unfortunately, his music reflects that ability and as such, nobody ELSE can play his music. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ _Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- I love defenseless animals, especially in good gravy. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:59:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Pink Floyd and Rush s** appeal Message-ID: while I agree 100 percent that their fans were driven by the music and not by sex appeal as, say, manudo was...I personally knew a 20 year old girl who was totally infatuated with David Gilmour and got googly eyed whenever she saw a picture of him. Just a rambling thought.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:16:06 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4653???? Message-ID: Freaky weird shit. Did anyone else in digest mode just get sent Digest 4653 from 2/5? Hmmmm...................................... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:52:23 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Azazello - '98 (Russian Prog) Message-ID: Well, it is indeed nice to hear that my band is not the only progressive band in Russia. We're called The Glazemaker, so far we're rehearsing our stuff - we already have enough songs to make a complete album, but we want to make those songs sound PERFECT, hope you guys get what I mean! In the meantime our singer is practicing his English, because we will be doing the whole album completely in English and we don't want the singer to sound shit! And we're saving money to record our songs soon, it really takes BIG $$$ to make a recording in Russia, a quality recording I mean - not just a cheap 4 or 8-track demo. We will be putting our web-page soon with the sound-clips, so far the only clips we have are the songs played by me (bass) and our guitarist with the midi-tracks and a live-recording of one more song. If you're curious to know more about what we're after, don't hesitate to mail me and I will absolutely sure reply very soon!!! Our influences are: DT (of course!!!), Rush (that's basically mine), Testament, Blind Guardian, Satch, Stu Hamm, BLS, VTT and more.. Take care and keep rockin' ~Peter 'the Keeper' ========================================================== The maintainer of the YtseJamCD Project site: http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch/Ytze IRC: Hammman ICQ:425-8962 =========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:03:03 -0600 From: Kevin To: YtseJam Mailing list Subject: Michael Harris-Defense Mechanizms cd on ebay Message-ID: Here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=82704135 This is only available in MP3 format now and the cd is OOP (Please inform if otherwise). Excellent disc from guitar master! Thanks, Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:09:32 -0600 From: "Brandon Vaughn" To: Subject: JPM guitars for sale Message-ID: <007a01be76d1$831e5c40$18c72fd8@brandon> Don't know if anybody else caught this, because I haven't seen anyone mention it. But . . . Musician's Friend (mail order music business) is selling a line of John Petrucci guitars. I don't know which model it is . . . must be the 4th edition (looks kind of like the camaflouge one to me). They were in their latest catalog I just got. About $1500? Can't remember. Anyway, I know there are more people like me who wanted one of these and live in rural areas that never get cool equipment like this. So, if you never have gotten one, or want another, check them out! I don't know how many of this edition they made (or how many Musician's Friend has), so you might want to call for details rather than wait for the catalog. I can find any info from the catalog if anyone needs it. I was lucky enough to find the 1st edition when it first came out. Still don't know how I did it, because I was late on the chase. Had one store swear they were getting one, and it suddenly disappeared . . . Three weeks down the drain. I was sure they were all gone by then, but I did find one. Probably my most favorite guitar I've ever owned. So don't be afraid of ordering it by mail! See ya! MadTabber email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:18:35 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Goldenberg To: email_address_removed Subject: re: Bartleby / Silent Man Message-ID: Hi again. First I want to say that I love Bartleby the Scrivener. Incredible story. Very short too, so definitely read it if you haven't. I'm not sure I see all of the comparisons to The Silent Man, that John Wells? said and would be interested in hearing them. Interestingly enough, Bartleby was not silent. If told to do something, he replied "I prefer not to." He was silent in actions, but the lawyer/ employer/ narrator guy was "silent". He didn't do anything. His entire staff had some problem or other. He didn't say anything. There was a "great wall" between him and his employees (both literally and figuratively). Wow, details are slowly coming back to me. Guess it's just another way that Dream Theater is amazing. I once learned that the 3 most popular literary references were Shakespeare, the Bible, and there was something else. Sorry can't remember. Anyone who knows me at all, knows I fell in love with Dream Theater for the lyrics. One English prof I had way back said every and any literary thing is based on sex. Not going to attempt a full analysis on The Silent Man with that since 1) I prefer not to. 2) I have a lot of work to do now. 3) Don't have the lyrics with me now 4) Who cares?? But S. Freud would have a lot to say about silence and fear, masks and walls, blame of the father or woman. It's all [a] complex. However you interpet it, it's a terrific song. I remember lying awake late at night, back when I lived on Long Island, and they'd play it on the radio back when 104.3 played good music. Sigh. Back to work. Take care. -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:19:56 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Daugherty To: DT list Subject: internet Message-ID: >I have one very short question for the jammerz out there.... >Ive been having trouble finding the video "Live In Tokyo"....im not too >interested in buying it over the internet so does anyone know if its still >available in most stores? >thanks Generally if you want any of the music discussed here, you need to buy over the internet. It does work... I may have seen it once at Borders but your best bet is the internet. === |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: email_address_removed | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | |----------------------------------------------------------------| _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:47:24 -0500 From: Frank Benenati To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: JPM guitars for sale Message-ID: Brandon Vaughn wrote: > > Musician's Friend (mail order music business) is selling a line of John > Petrucci guitars. I don't know which model it is . . . must be the 4th > edition (looks kind of like the camaflouge one to me). They were in their > latest catalog I just got. About $1500? Can't remember. Yikes!!! You know, I have been coveting a JPM100 for a while now and I just can't justify spending over 1000 dollars for a guitar. It's robbery. No axe is worth that much. I can understand paying a bit of money for a guitar, but honestly folks. It hurts when I see guitar's that are selling at that price. I'd be willing to bet that at least 500-700 of those dollars are there because JP has his name on the guitar. It's too bad, because unless I find a good condition used one, I don't think I would ever spend that much. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to live with going out and getting an RG, gutting the pickups and slapping in an Air Norton and a Steve Special . -MojoMan -- /\ /\ \_\/_/ / _ _ \ |\ \(*)(*)/ /| #-----------------OOO- \oo/--OOO------------# # Frank Benenati - email_address_removed # # "Some of the nicest people are dogs" # # - Richard Dean Anderson # #__________________________ooo______________# ooo (_) (_) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:06 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Bach/Gould Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809332@messaging> <<<<< Lets not even get into that. IMO they where both great composers, but i do like Beethoven's Symphonies (man he could write a great long song) better than Bach's long ones. Bach has good stuff too, but the best ones are really short, ie Jesu, Joy of Mans Desiring, Toccata and Fugue, Concerto for Harpsichord, Strings and Continuo in D major, But i see you used the word 'shred' so i feel inclined to say that Radhmaninoff could outshred anyone past, present and future! >>>>> I'll have to agree with you on that one - RaChmaninoff could pretty much rip anyone apart. I have a disc of him playing his own creations, and it is just FUCKING AMAZING. "The man can wail!" - anyone catch that reference? 10 points to the first correct contestant... Here in good old AZ I go to this Steinway-sponsored piano recital series at the Scottsdale center for the arts (my girlfriend has a Steinway D - lucky bitch :)), and they have some phenomenal pianists perform there. And if you want a guy who can wail, check out Glen Gould performing Bach's Goldberg Variations (which were originally written for harpsichord - he transcribed them for piano, which requires playing with his hands on top of one another much of the time). There are about 40? distinct short songs, and they're all pretty damn cool... Better yet, get the video... David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:41:56 -0500 From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: communication, spectrally (ZDTC) Message-ID: While on a caffine high, Jens Johansson wrote: > > It's an old question; should music be considered business, communication, > or expression? (Is sound air pressure, or spectra? Is light waves, or > particles?) The answer, as usual, is yes. I'm not going to quote the whole thing, but what Jens said was just damn cool stuff! GIVE THE MAN MORE COFFEE!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:50:31 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bach/Gould Message-ID: David Dixon wrote: > I'll have to agree with you on that one - RaChmaninoff could pretty much rip > anyone apart. I have a disc of him playing his own creations, and it is > just FUCKING AMAZING. "The man can wail!" - anyone catch that reference? > 10 points to the first correct contestant... <- waynes world 1 or 2? > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:54:48 -0500 From: "Christopher Files" To: Subject: 115 Jams ago Message-ID: <003301be76e8$9da55160$dfc97ad1@artoo-detoo> I just got sent a copy of Ytsejam #4653 (and we're up to #4768). Anybody else get this? I was reading it and saw a post I made over a month ago, and didn't quite understand why it was there...until I looked at the 'jam number. (As one who doesn't post often, it was a weird coincidence that I had a post in this resent 'jam.) Confusedly, Xris "Wipe them out. All of them." -Palpatine NP: 'Day for Night' - Spock's Beard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:07:55 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Crackerjack clothes!!!!! ....(lol!!) Message-ID: >"Wimps and posers.....LEAVE THE HALL!" :))) > All men play on ten! Hail and kill brother. hehehe Palpatine Co Founder of Pi-R-Squared productions: www.pi-r-squared.com "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:21:34 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 115 Jams ago Message-ID: > >"Wipe them out. All of them." >-Palpatine Actually that's not Palpatine. That's Darth Sidious. Palpatine is not a dark Jedi in this ep. As a matter of fact SENATOR Palpatine can be seen in the trailer (still played by Ian Mcdarmand! yes!) as the snively little guy who says "I think, your highness, we shall have to surrender to Federation control for the time being." Sorry for the BS. At least it's short! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:14:36 -0500 From: RonnyJ To: email_address_removed Subject: Concert After-Party Message-ID: Folks, I'm almost embarrassed that I know where this picture is, but you have to see it, it is HYSTERICAL!!! http://209.132.86.238/partydude.htm Don't bother clicking the link below the picture, it goes to a porn site, but the pic is NOT porn related. I'll give you a hint - can you say TOO MUCH ALCOHOL!?!? hahahahahahaaaaaa! Question: Has anyone here ever actually DONE that??? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:32:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin A. Loechner" To: The Ytsejam Subject: Dream Theater Voting Online! Message-ID: Hey Jammers, Vote online for your favorite Dream Theater songs at http://www.freevote.com/booth/dreamt I set this up since there was a lack of Dream Theater voting booths, but 50,000 of those 5 annoying guys that make a lot of money (you know who I am talking about, but if I see their name one more time I will puke). So c'mon lets have a good time people (James LaBrie -- Once in a LIVEtime) and vote for your favorite. If I neglected a song that is your fave, just submit it and I will go about approval for it. Later, Kevin --------------------------------------------- -- Kevin A. Loechner -- -- Department of Electrical Engineering -- -- and Computer Science, Tulane University -- -- email_address_removed -- -- http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kloechn -- --------------------------------------------- http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=kevin2112 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:07:46 -0500 From: "Giannotti, Nick" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Myung's expendability Message-ID: I'm not so sure about this, only because he's one of the three remaining original members of the band. I'd think that his opinion would carry as much weight as John's or Mike's. Then again, in any band situation, shouldn't it all be equal, no matter what? Maybe, in Derek's situation, John, Mike, John and James each had a quarter of the vote. In any event, I won't say I can't see DT being ruled by one or two guys, but I will say that I'd be surprised if that was the case. Maybe Mr. Portnoy himself can shed some light on the subject for us...? Nicholas Giannotti x6745 Joint STARS Contracts email_address_removed ---------------------------------- Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:08:49 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Tomorrow in NJ Message-ID: Friday March 26th 10:00p.m. SONIC OCEAN Progressive Fusion Performing at Backstreets 198 Belmont Road Haledon, NJ For Directions Call 973 - 595 - 9763 21 & Over To Attend $5 Cover Charge If you have any questions, please feel free to E-mail Sonic Ocean ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:17:34 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: "Look! Up in the sky!! Yt's a bird, Yt's a plane, Yt's ITSEJAM" Subject: Time, Cheese (the kind you eat), Rudess' sounds Message-ID: Rahul inquired: > The good Mr. Parmet (do you pronounce that French-like? Parmay? That would be Parmette, I believe (it's only been 24 years since French class). Vous n'est pas une belle jeune fille :) > How much cheese do you eat? :) )> Stay downwind and find out, boyeeeeeeeee! > I remember hearing about this. Was this not the impetus behind > Jordan and Rod collaborting? It was. Go to either http://www.mediusvision.com/jordan or http://www.mediusvision.com/rod/ for the goods. > They stunned themselves during the jam No humans were harmed in the making of the jam :) Also, for sounds Jordan's made other than with LTE/RPM/Dregs, I suggest checking his site out, rather quickly. Not sure how long these are gonna be up there, but he threw some samples up from a band he was in in 1980 called "Speedway Blvd." Interesting stuff, considering the year it came out. Some of the sounds predate that 'hair/cock rock era' sound by a few years :))) And there's stuff from his '93 solo release "Listen". Some sweet Emerson-like prog runs in there ("Listen to the Voice"). This guy is gonna be all OVER the next DT album with his breadth of sounds. I'm not through with LTE or RPM just yet :) Yes ok, on DT's next one, there'll be some similarities in sound to what we've already heard. I also imagine there's gonna be some whacked out shit....k, here we go... :) Picture them in the studio with the guy's tearing up something insane, you know what I mean (but you will :): Kevin Labrie is warming up his vocal chords by shooting 30 foot flames out his mouth. He learned this when he was a freak up in the Canadian circus. John Myung has figured out how to play a bass note below 1 Hz :) Oscilloscope manufacturers go back to the drawing board and rethink the law of physics... JP decides to make a song that'll make "The Mirror" sound like a lullaby. He got every knob maxed, everything plugged into everything else, causing short circuits, smoke, fire, etc. This is just too weak though. He takes out a Sawzall and begins literally shredding the guitar, quickly, before the recording equipment completely ceases to function. He has planned the intended emotion he wishes this piece to convey. Besides the nice overtones he gets as the the Sawzall penetrates the pickup, he gets some additional chunk to the overall sound by mic-ing the Sawzall. He just e-mailed me in fact saying "We're waiting for some feedback (pun intended) on this to see if we should do another take, perhaps mounting the Sawzall to automagically perform the shred, freeing my hands up to aim the Laws Rocket Launcher at the ensemble at the right moment".... Mike? He's tough, cuz he already does it all :) Hmmm... Limbs flailing, all in different time signatures. He uses the 'Animal' labelling to his advantage and begins hitting the ride cymbal with his head at the same time (forhead coming down on the top, back of the cranium hits the underside on the way back up). Several Indian tribes, with an affinity for the beat, emerge from the past and begin dancing. During all of this controlled chaos, Jordan hits some sequence that causes the Kurzweil processor to crash (I warned him not to install the Intel patch :) and it produces some totally whacked sound. Mike and John, fully immersed in their "creations", look up with that spent, dripping blood look - similar to when a tiger has just finished tearing apart a Thompson's Gazelle and realizes once again where it is - take note of what Jordan has just done and go "I like it, let's use it" :) Peace! Jon ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4769 **************************