YTSEJAM Digest 4712 Today's Topics: 1) garden of sound by "Raivo Hool" 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4709 by email_address_removed 3) Re: boot/mp3 by email_address_removed 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4711 by email_address_removed 5) Re: stump, schtuff, grammy, tribute, mp kit, pearl jam by "Trent Thornton" 6) Re: Finally, guitar lives! by email_address_removed 7) DT Boots for sale by email_address_removed 8) Re: Lords of Sound boot? by Matej Grginic 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4696 by Nick Storr 10) Re: Stump the Jam/MIDI recommendations (No DTC) by "Dave Peterson" 11) Lacuna Coil / Gypsy Kings by "Charlie Farrell" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:09:35 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" To: email_address_removed Subject: garden of sound Message-ID: > Try Superunknown or Bad Motor Finger first! IMHO, those are their best 2 > albums, having all an grunge album should have! Also the last one (Down on > the upside) is pretty good! If after these you still don't like them I Soundgarden was never a grunge band, more like a metal band with some Seattle influence, which can't be avoided when you are coming from the very town. Badmotorfinger sounds a lot more like Black Sabbath than Alice In Chains. Superunknown stretches even farther out of that realm. ========================================================================= Raivo Hool kontor raitz@estcard.ee ICQ 19980975 isiklik raitz@ircnet.ee Windows NT administraator istuv (+372) 6 711 450 Pankade Kaardikeskus liikuv (+372) 51 43 567 ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:15:23 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4709 Message-ID: <> I have to disagree with that. Although they are obviously influenced by those bands, and they do have their similarities, they don't fail to make their own mark. The way they play is different then that of Dream Theater's and just because the vocalist voice bears some likenesses to that of Geoff Tate's does not make him unoriginal. Maiden!!! Well, maybe I have a different CT than you do. Listen to I & W from DT and Parallels from Fates...they really don't sound at all alike. Or FII and Inside Out...nope. Fates Warning are an original band. They have a great sound that you can't take away from them by saying its not their sound. Thank you for your time. john ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:52:33 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: boot/mp3 Message-ID: > Oh yeah? Just like that? Tell that to your kid (for example) when he ask > you to buy him that cute new Hanson album, and all you have is 5$ in the > pocket. Tough! The regular price is 20$ but you find a pirate one for 4$. > The kid . What to do? Of course, beat the kid. You know, all I can say to this is: I hope you never, EVER have kids. The thought that you think it's okay to teach kids that if they can't afford something, then it's okay to steal it makes my skin crawl. I have a dughter, and she wants stuff all the time. I'm lucky enough that so far, I've have been able to provide anything she needed or wanted. That doesn't mean I DID provide it, just that I COULD have. There's a HUGE difference between providing something that a child needs (a home, medical care, and education), and something that they want (a Hanson album). I sincerely hope you understand that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:34:30 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4711 Message-ID: i am sure this sounds totally foolish to may of you but i will post my request any how and see what happens...... last december, in '97 i went to my 3rd DT show at the Masquerade in Ybor City, Florida. as at the other two before it, and the one after it, i was completely in awe - i was the chick in the front row in front of JP and i have a majesty tat on my arm...anyway.... i ended up meeting a guy there, who i am still with...and even though it only started with a DT show we discovered that we had a lot more in common than prog rock....and are *engaged* (yay!) and i guess my question to you all is this: we have decided we want DT to play at whatever sort of reception we end up having - more likely than not just a big ass party of some sort....does anyone have any thoughts on this, whether or not the guys would be interested.....or if they would schedule a show around the time we choose? not until this summer or next, probably.....id there ANY remote chance of any of this??? on list or private email is fine but i will say private will likely get read as opposed to accidentally deleted.... thanks Nicole email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:28:41 PST From: "Trent Thornton" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: stump, schtuff, grammy, tribute, mp kit, pearl jam Message-ID: >>< And for my money, Pearl Jam is a quality band >< >And the drummer and lead guitarist can be real good at times. Songs >like Black, Better Man, I Got Id and Yellow Ledbetter are far above average, I have to agree, but almost all of those songs feature different drummers- "Black"- Dave Krusen "Better Man"- Dave Abbruzzesse "I Got ID"- Jack Irons "Yellow Ledbetter"- Um, I dunno the answer to this question. I think it was Dave Krusen, but I really don't know. Speaking of PJ, I love all of their albums immensely, but for some reason I've been playing almost nothing but Ten (the first, most popular album) the past few days. If it wasn't that, it was eitehr DT's I&W or ACOS CDs. Screwy... *Trent ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:03:09 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Finally, guitar lives! Message-ID: Id like to personally shake the hand of the guy who mentioned Andres' Segovia. ive played dozens of pieces by him. I think he's the man. he's famous for writing studies that really help your weaker hand develop ( ex. Estudio #5 ) fully on a classical guitar. word's been out, and there's a classical guitar competition and a few master classes next weekend ( friday morning through sunday evening ) in Boaz, Alabama. im not sure what pieces my group and i will play for the competition, but i think we're focusing on Segovia's works . Flamingo, flaminco, or classical. good luck! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 03:23:27 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Boots for sale Message-ID: I've got three boots that I'm selling. I wanted to give other jammers a chance before putting them on Ebay. Majesty - Acoustic Dreams #218 Dream Theater - Majestic Harmonies Dream Theater - Instrumental II E-mail all bids to me at email_address_removed I don't normally sell things like this, but I'm in a crunch for cash. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:10:47 +0100 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Lords of Sound boot? Message-ID: :Hi everyone, :I'm sort of a lurker, but I'm on IRC a lot so this is my first post in a :while. : :I found a DT CD called Lords of Sound in a little CD store in Boston. I :got the Majesty demo there for 15$. Good deal IMHO, but they want 50$ :for the LoS one. It's a 2 disc set. Does anyone own this? or can :anyone tell me if it's worth 50$? Thanx. : :"Wild" Bill Yeah, I found that bood when I was traveling through Java in a dirty city called Surabaya. They didn't have any of DT cds except this boot. Ofcourse I bought it, because it only went for 5$ or so. But 50$??? That's way too much for it. I mean it's pretty nice boot, sound quality is pretty good, but setlist is nothing special, nor can I think of anything special about the songs performed. Get yourself a couple nice legitimate cds for this price instead of this italian scalp. Matej ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:55:47 +1100 From: Nick Storr To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4696 Message-ID: >I am interested in trading MP3s of entire albums. > >If you have one of the following albums, I will swap it for any one of the albums >I own. Email privately if you're interested, or for a list of the albums I'll >swap for. >No flames about copyrighting please - prog metal is hard enough to get in Australia >as it is. CDs here cost twice as much as anywhere else, not to mention import >costs, shipping delays, and virtually no tours! > >Queensr=FFche - Operation: Mindcrime >Explorer's Club - Age Of Impact >Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone > - Tyranny You probably already got replies for this... I'm a bit late... if you really do want to try and pay for these first, try CD-NOW. If you're ordering 3 or 4 at a time, the postage is lower per disc, and I think once you get this many, you actually save money on Australian prices. Only takes about a week to get here, and you're not depriving any artists of their rightful income! :) Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:22:51 PST From: "Dave Peterson" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Stump the Jam/MIDI recommendations (No DTC) Message-ID: Not to bring up on out-of-date thread, but I've been meaning to answer the question posed to stump the jam. The song that goes: Never enough, yeah Never enough, yeah Come on, take it all the way Never e nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah Take it all the way It's by a band by the name of "Econoline Crush" ------ Now for something completely different... I've been meaning to maybe buy a computer. One of them new-fangled Pentium III types. (I'm on my work's computer right now.) After checking out the ytseradio site and looking at NetRadio's expanding channels (They have a progressive rock channel right now, and promise to get into the many varied genres of metal soon), I'm excited at the prospect of owning a computer that creates and plays music. Back in high-school, I wrote a 4-piece score for a little 5-minute song. It was for 2 trumpets, 1 trombone and 1 tuba. The problem is: I've never heard it! Imagine spending hours on something and never hearing the result! (I'd planned on somehow getting some friends together to play it live, but it never worked out.) Now I sit here 7 years later and I still have the score, but I still would LOVE to hear what it sounds like! So I pose my question... What is a software out there that would allow me to easily punch in the notes and hear my creation? At the same time, I would like it to be powerful. Something user-friendly but powerful enough to keep me satisfied for quite some time. I don't want to grow out of it, but also don't want to be intimidated by it. Ya know? I know basic keyboard chords, so some sort of MIDI-interface wouldn't hurt either, but I don't own a keyboard and don't plan on investing in a terribly expensive one if I do plan on going the MIDI-route. So there's my problem: What's some good mid-range music software, and what's a good mid-range keyboard that would work well with it? How much would they cost? Suggestions? Thanks in advance! - Dr. Teeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:43:57 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" To: "Ytsejam list" Subject: Lacuna Coil / Gypsy Kings Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:34:06 GMT ]From: "Simon John Dodd" To: email_address_removed Subject: Lacuna Coil (very little DTC) >Man, I can't believe anyone else has even HEARD of this band!! Well they did tour the UK in January 98 with the Siegmen as support to the not-unknown Paradise Lost. (I turned up late and missed them, - bummer!) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:18:09 -0500 ]From: "Alex O'Connell" To: email_address_removed Subject: this worthless post brought to you by... > >check out bands like the Gypsy Kings. >Yeah baby! > These guys are awesome. Sorry, but these guys have become the almost obligatory soundtrack in every spanish resteraunt I've ever eaten in ( and a good few italian and french resteraunts too). Beleive me, it may sound good at first but it sooon becomes a triffle irritating. Charlie URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4712 **************************