YTSEJAM Digest 4691 Today's Topics: 1) Rap music by "Simon John Dodd" 2) Divine Regale by Pat Daugherty 3) The last mention of DT's new guitar player by "Simon John Dodd" 4) Vai by "Jason Barden" 5) JOIN THE CREW!!!!! by "Joe Bissonnette" 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4689 by email_address_removed 7) MIME crap by Bobby Tufino 8) Re: MIME crap by Der Herr Bodinger 9) RE: 90th Anniv JP guitar by "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" 10) Re: MIME crap by Frank Benenati 11) Re: Mike Portnoy Sabian Setup by "Kevin Rackley" 12) Labrie doing background singing by John Parks 13) Re: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus by Younis Hilal 14) Re: Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-Earth by Younis Hilal 15) Join The Crew by "Korg Ecksthrey" 16) Suggestions for buying CD's by "Marco Anastasi" 17) wav file help by Nik Shah 18) Re: MIME crap (severely offtopic) by Jens Johansson 19) Glass Hammer news by Phil Carter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:46:33 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" To: the Ytsejam Subject: Rap music Message-ID: >dupe the public and get rich. BUT... no more can we denounce the >_entire_ >genra of rap than can anyone say all prog music is "fast for the sake I agree. I reviewed LTE in my college magazine; and when it came out, the [rap/punk/R&B fan] editor had inserted all these snide comments, along the lines of: "This band have no right to exist, because not only are they capable of playing their instruments, but - how DARE they! - they actually DO play them!". This seemed very silly to me. You wouldn't tell Picasso to stop being self-indulgent and get back to painting flowers. You might think that Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas is a load of directionless toss (I ceartainly do), but that doesn't give you the right to dismiss the right of the director to make it. You'd never find people palming off meaningless and trite abuse in any other field of the arts, so why do they get away with it in music? I hate Simply Red, but they're signed to EastWest, and they sell a shit load of records. Thus EastWest has more money to spend on developing new bands, not to mention supporting Tori and DT. It's just that they can't be arsed most of the time. The same guy later told me that the guitar was out-of-date and cliched because it had been on 90% of all the records made in the last 50 years. Okay...This from a RAP fan. RAP, which consists of VOICE and DRUMS, yes? Which - and feel free to argue here - have been on 99.9999999999999% of all records made in the last 50 years, and have been in use for thousands of years before the guitar was even invented... My problem with rap fans is that they really do talk shit. And for the last time, Mariah Carey/Honeyz/En Vogue and all that other rubbish is NOT R&B. R&B stands for Rhythm and Blues, not "sugared, bland, slightly hip-hop/soul flavoured trash". Oh wait, maybe they mean Rubbish & Boring...fair enough. Si -------------------------------------------------------------------- "What every musician really, really wants is to get paid" - Helen Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:21:55 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Daugherty To: email_address_removed Subject: Divine Regale Message-ID: Anyone know the story about why Divine Regale's singer left or was dumped? NP:Statovarious-Live-Visions of Europe == |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: email_address_removed | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | |----------------------------------------------------------------| _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:06:54 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" To: the Ytsejam Subject: The last mention of DT's new guitar player Message-ID: Hi again folks, Seems to me that everyone's been going through their master list of groovy guitar players, and saying "Wouldn't it be SO COOL if we had <---> in the band??" Fact: DT do not need a second guitarist at all. However, I can hear that it wouldn't hurt on occaision to hire a rhythm guitar player for the live shows on some songs. Listen to Voices on OIaL if you don't believe me. Just to beef up the sound. The only person I can think of who really fits the bill is Mike Keneally, but I'm not exactly up on US session rhythm guitarists. I dunno, can JLB play guitar...? Si p.s., I know MP/JP/JM never finished at Berklee, but did Derek graduate?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:41:45 -0700 From: "Jason Barden" To: email_address_removed Subject: Vai Message-ID: > >>DT does NOT need more guitars!!!!!!! JP is incredible alone. Vai & >>Satriani are ALL effects. I SUCK on the guitar, BUT I can sound like >>Vai or Satriani with 20 effect rack AND about 15 foot pedals. Hit one >>note & it sounds like Bach or Mozart. ANYBODY can use effects, but JP >>is just GREAT! Probably my fav guitarist. Sorry about this, I don't want to keep this thread alive, but the band and album Vai really kicked my ass. The whole things is awesome, listen to "Touching Tongues" or any of the other songs and tell me you can do that. By the way Bozzio rules on this album. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:15:26 -0600 From: "Joe Bissonnette" To: email_address_removed Subject: JOIN THE CREW!!!!! Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:55:09 +0100 > From: "Choon-Kang Walther" > To: "Aera" > Subject: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus > Message-ID: <002001be5e73$9be552e0$0f5b18c3@rahelwal> > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > Hehehehehehe. A 50+ line bogus virus alert and in MIME to boot. Somebody tell him what he's won.... Why it's a boatload of flamage. BTW no virus warning that has been spread with a "TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS" message has EVER been real. It's a hoax. They're all hoaxes. HOAXES. Stop already. I can only take so much, then I can'ts take no more. Biz > >> > >PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR >> > = > MAILBOXES. > >> > >AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS HOAX AND THERE IS NO REMEDY = > FOR > >> > >IDIOTS PASSING IT ON. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS ASAP. > >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:29:28 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4689 Message-ID: In a message dated 2/22/99 5:49:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, email_address_removed writes: << I may be an idiot for asking this, but I don't think I remember it being asked before. Am I hearing things or is that the introduction to A Fortune in Lies at the very end of track 11 on the second CD? Around 2:28, just after the end of The Crimson Sunset. I could SWEAR that's it... >> By george I think youve got it. Yep, That would be A Fortune in Lies. The first timeI heard that snuck in to the end of ACOS, I thought theeey were going to actually play the song. Oh well. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:39:06 -0500 From: Bobby Tufino To: email_address_removed Subject: MIME crap Message-ID: Hey, just wanted to comment on all the MIME crap that's been flooding the jam lately. Hell, I don't even know what it actually is, but it's annoying as fuck. I understand some people (like Neil Gallop) don't have much choice, and that really sucks...but it still sends all that stuff to the jam, and it needs to stop. I was thinking if you send MIME stuff to the jam all the time, through no fault of your own, a solution could be to get deskmail or hotmail (yeah, hotmail) or any of the other web based email services temporarily till your MIME problem gets straightened out. It would help decrease clutter on the jam...keep in mind I don't know much about this stuff, but I would think that would work. If not, then I hope someone else comes up with a better suggestion to deal with this. 'Cause I really want to read Neil's reviews soon (no sarcasm intended). Bobby NP - Rudess/Morgenstein Project "Crossing Over" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:36:19 -0800 (PST) From: Der Herr Bodinger To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MIME crap Message-ID: suggestion: perhaps if we bug our esteemed moderator long enough, he will put filters in place to get rid of all the mime gibberish while keeping the readable part of the message. i believe the freaks (marillion/fish) list has something like this in place... slainte, === Charles A. Bodinger ICQ# 31620730 yahoo pager id: edge_of_madness "And until that time when death won't wait Let each man rage against his fate." -'The Wake of Magellan' _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:09:15 +0100 From: "-=Dennis Leeflang=-" To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" Subject: RE: 90th Anniv JP guitar Message-ID: <003a01be5e8e$76f09d80$message_id_removed.nl> Robert Jurado wrote: >Let's say I won the lottery You wouldn't..... Dennis "Stickmaster D." Leeflang *********************************************************** Find Stickmaster D. at ICQ #21285351 ----- The official NEMESIS Homepage ----- http://www.nemesis.club.tip.nl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I don't want to live up to people's expectations: I want to exceed them." ~ Bruce Dickinson - Iron Maiden february 1999 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:25:57 -0500 From: Frank Benenati To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MIME crap Message-ID: Der Herr Bodinger wrote: > > suggestion: > > perhaps if we bug our esteemed moderator long enough, he will > put filters in place to get rid of all the mime gibberish while > keeping the readable part of the message. i believe the freaks > (marillion/fish) list has something like this in place... Why should we bug Skadz to write a script to do something like that? People should have the common sense to make sure that their mail programs don't send out MIME shit to begin with. It's a flat out waste of bandwidth that doesn't belong in a mailing list forum. Almost all of the current mail programs have utilities that will send out different mail formats to different recipients. If you are one of the MIME culprits, edjucate yourself. If you are going to send out e-mail, learn what you're sending out. Plain and simple. Don't waste our bandwidth, because you're too ignorant to learn your own computer. -mojoman P.S. If you're interested in fantasy baseball with fantasybaseball.commissioner.com (cbs.sportsline's site), email me at email_address_removed for the league ID and password. /\ /\ \_\/_/ / _ _ \ |\ \(*)(*)/ /| #-----------------OOO- \oo/--OOO------------# # Frank Benenati - email_address_removed # # "Some of the nicest people are dogs" # # - Richard Dean Anderson # #__________________________ooo______________# ooo (_) (_) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:40:29 -0500 From: "Kevin Rackley" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Sabian Setup Message-ID: I don't know who wanted to know this, but here is Mike Portnoy's Sabian = setup from the Sabian Website: 14" AAX Stage Hats=20 10" Bell Disc=20 8" Cymbal Disc=20 6" Cymbal Disc=20 18" AA Chinese=20 10" Hand Hammered China Kang=20 16" AA Medium Crash=20 12" AAX Splash=20 18" AA Medium Thin Crash=20 8" AAX Splash=20 10" AAX Splash=20 18" AA Medium Crash=20 22" Hand Hammered Rock Ride=20 17" Hand Hammered Medium Thin Crash=20 13" AA Rock Hats=20 12" AA Mini Chinese=20 20" Hand Hammered Thin Chinese=20 Set of High Octave Crotales=20 20" x 30" Thunder Sheet Hope this helps. Kevin Rackley Soul Reason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:41:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks To: ytsejam dream theater Subject: Labrie doing background singing Message-ID: After listening to FW's Parallel's and reading the liner i just realized that james labrie sings background on the song,'life in still water'. My question: where else can i find James doing background vocals? later all == John Parks email_address_removed _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:14:19 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Hilal To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fw: Weit:Antw:WG: FW: Virus Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 email_address_removed wrote: > From: "Choon-Kang Walther" [HUGE-ass message deleted containing warnings about Join Crew and Penpals viruses] These 2 viruses are hoaxes. See http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html for details. That page also contains a few tips for ppl who wanna warn the rest of us about viruses. One of them is NEVER send out such a warning unless you're absolutely sure it's for real. If you have any doubts about a warning you received or its source, do nothing. At the very least, you should check virus-hoax pages on the Web before sending out a warning to the entire world. Younis email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Hilal To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-Earth Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 email_address_removed wrote: > From: "Suplizio, Jim" > > After about 2 months of waiting I finally received > my copy of NIME from cdnow.com. (It was the > import copy with the extra tracks which they > had a hard time getting more of.) All I can say What extra tracks? Younis email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:36:55 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Join The Crew Message-ID: <000a01be5ea3$1a2587e0$5b0d84d0@default> Hehehe. Maybe some of those hyperparanoid dweebazoids will read the subject, panic, and unsub. :D But then, maybe they'll read the author of this mail and do the same... heh. I think I had 7 votes on that Ytse-Moron poll... heheh. Wish it were more. Here's lookin' to next year! :) -- KorgX3 has a goal to acheive for 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:40:47 +0100 From: "Marco Anastasi" To: "YtseJam" Subject: Suggestions for buying CD's Message-ID: <01be5d22$0ee7dc20$message_id_removed.it> Hello Jammers ! I'd like to purchase some Yes and Marillion albums, 'cause I don't have any of them and I think they are indispensable for anyone who wants to have a good prog culture... What albums would you suggest to buy first ? In my local CD store I found the Yes album "Tormato" and the Marillion's "Read to Reed" or something like this (Sorry for the errors in the titles but I just don't remember them correctly) and "La Gazza Ladra"... What about them ? Are they worth buying ? Thanx in advance I'd prefer personal replies, 'cause I don't always have the time to read the Jam and in order not to waste bandwidth. Thanx Marco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:37:38 -0500 From: Nik Shah To: email_address_removed Subject: wav file help Message-ID: does anybody know if there is a program that can cut a .wav file into multiple files? i have a 2 hour long .wav of a queensryche concert that i want to cut into individual songs. -nik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:42:43 -0500 From: Jens Johansson To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MIME crap (severely offtopic) Message-ID: On 08:52 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: > Hey, just wanted to comment on all the MIME crap that's been flooding > the jam lately. Hell, I don't even know what it actually is, but it's > annoying as fuck # begin-impromptu-procmail-recipe # something like :0 fw * ^Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable | /usr/local/bin/perl -e 'while (<>) {\ if (!$saw_header) {s/quoted-printable/8-bit/;} if (/^$/) {$saw_header++;}\ if ($saw_header) {s/=([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;}\ print; }'\ # ... ahem, well, or whatever. Don't bore me by telling me # which standards this would break. :) # Hmm, maybe it's not possible to process mail before it goes to the # list processor, what the hell do i know -- I never ran a mailing list!! # # wouldn't handle that annoying "qp in subject line" encoding or # whatever drainbamaged shite the flavor-of-the-hour of Microsoft's # email agent decides to tack on.. dunno how to solve that one, # it keeps mutating and metamorphosing like a fucking virus # how about :0 * ^X-Mailer:.*Microsoft /dev/null # %) # I hate qp too but my pet peeve was always qp usenet posts. # Ah, those were the days.. but that's computing in the 90s for ya, # the inmates have taken over the asylum. :) # # Part 1 of tour was a blast, including Turkey!! # (No, I didn't run into any bullets) # # --- # Jens. (offline) (http://www.panix.com/~jens/) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:38:17 -0500 From: Phil Carter To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: Glass Hammer news Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... I've updated the Glass Hammer website at http://www.glasshammer.com/ with some more new stuff. Some of you GH fanatics may be interested in the following bits of info about the new disc, "Faith and Reason": -- The band is finished recording the lead vocals. -- Yesterday Steve spoke with Dr. Thomas Hammit (formerly of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, and a protege of the late Robert Shaw). Dr. Hammit will be conducting the Glass Hammer choir. -- Featured members of the choir may include a soprano from the Metropolitan Opera. Notable roles she has played include the lead in West Side Story (she was handpicked by Bernstein for this role). Steve hasn't mentioned her name yet because he wants to make sure she can commit to the appearance. -- And, finally, the best saved for last: Prog-rockers rejoice! The talented Dutch musician Arjen A. Lucassen, best known for his work with Ayreon, will be making a guest appearance on "Faith and Reason"! DTC: Um.....Walter from Glass Hammer loves Dream Theater (and Spock's Beard, and King's X...hehehe). ta, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter Check out the Glass Hammer website at http://www.glasshammer.com/ "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4691 **************************