YTSEJAM Digest 4542 Today's Topics: 1) i am a cat by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 2) In case you haven't read about this yet... (S-X content!) by Chris Schulze 3) Re: New Year's Evil by Vincent LuPone 4) Re: In case you haven't read about this yet... (S-X content!) by Jens Johansson 5) Re: This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change! by Syrinx 6) 32nd notes at 200. by "Christopher Ptacek" 7) more ketchup by Chris Oates 8) Alright, you asked for it: NEW YEARS EVIL!!! pt. 1/2 by Eckie 9) New Years Evil pt 2/2 by Eckie 10) RE: Songs For Newbies... by "Chris Herbst" 11) Re: Slightly-shady CDR trade request by email_address_removed 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4541 by email_address_removed 13) TLF & one deadly serious NDTC by CyberDuke 14) Herman Hesse by CyberDuke 15) Re: This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change! by Chris Schulze ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:34:29 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: i am a cat Message-ID: i must be, cuz curiosity is doing a number on me right now..... who else voted for Francis Dunnery and Bela Fleck in our very own Gallup poll?? partha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:11:40 -0500 From: Chris Schulze To: email_address_removed Subject: In case you haven't read about this yet... (S-X content!) Message-ID: Hey, look at what I just came across on the Hardradio news page of last week... << Look for a brand new JOHANSSON BROTHERS album February 3rd via Pony Canyon in Japan. Titled The Last Viking, the disc features former Yngwie Malmsteen/Silver Mountain alumni, Jens and Anders Johansson, along with Symphony X guitar whiz, Michael Romeo, and fellow Swede, G=F6ran Edman (Yngwie, Glory, John Norum= ) on lead vocals. The track listing is as follows: 'The Last Viking', 'Burning Eyes', 'Valhalla', 'Fading Away', 'Forest', 'Mirror', 'Samurai', 'Close To You', 'Carry Me', 'Winter Battle' and 'Alone'... >> All I can say is.... DAAAMMMNNNN!!!!!!!! I want this!!!!!!! :) I'm just not sure about some of these song titles... I hope it doesn't end up being some Yngwie cover band... ^Christian is still drooling from what he thinks this COULD sound like ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:43:18 -0700 From: Vincent LuPone To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: New Year's Evil Message-ID: >Supwitchall-- >I know some of you were going to NYE, but I still haven't heard anything >about it :( Someone either post something or mail me privately, will ya? >Thanks :) Well, I was sitting up HIGH in the upper deck when Soulfly was playing, so to me they sounded like ambient noise because of the reverberation off of the steel building and ceiling. By the time Slayer hit, me and a buddy of mine had gotten down into the $40 seats and eventually onto the floor. Slayer kicked MAJOR ass. Very heavy, very fast. As for Megadeth, they played a tight and HEAVY set. Songs like "Wake Up Dead" and "In My Darkest Hour" along with the classics "Holy Wars" and "Sweating Bullets". In the middle of She-Wolf, Dave and Marty went OFF on a whole shitload of harmony passages reminiscient of old Iron Maiden or older Fates Warning. It was long too. Was damn cool, I hope it's part of a song off their next album. Oh, and you'll never miss Nick, Jimmy DeGrasso fits Megadeth perfectly. He plays fast hard and aggressively, and he plays DWs. Then Pantera. WOW. What a show. Very heavy, mainly stuff off of the first 3 albums (thankfully :). Big thing for me, they played Domination, part 2 of Hollow, and Use my Third Arm (that song near the end of Far Beyond with the badass rhythms). The band was ON, but Phil was damn drunk. He broke a mic and the band had to start Mouth for War over again. He made up for it with a witty remark, but I still have yet to be impressed with the dude, ever. They also had Kerry King from Slayer and Scott Ian from Anthrax up on stage to play fucking Hostile. Ian's guitar strap kept falling off, so he really wasn't much of a factor, unfortunately. As for Black Sabbath, well, they were great, but I was hoping for a BIG TIME guitar sound out of Tony, similiar to the sound on "Psychoman", but his sound was more reminiscient of classic Sabbath. Still, not too bad. Their set was damn good, in fact the only thing really missing was Psychoman :) No Ozzy material. There you go, a quickie review of New Year's Evil. Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://members.xoom.com/obscuremetal/ | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:11:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jens Johansson To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: In case you haven't read about this yet... (S-X content!) Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Chris Schulze wrote: > << Look for a brand new JOHANSSON BROTHERS album February 3rd via Pony > Canyon in Japan. Titled The Last Viking, the disc > All I can say is.... DAAAMMMNNNN!!!!!!!! I want this!!!!!!! :) I'm just > not sure about some of these song titles... I hope it doesn't end up > being some Yngwie cover band... > > Christian is still drooling from what he thinks this COULD sound like Oh dear, I hope you're not expecting a total shred record. It is not... Anyway, for the curious, see http://www.panix.com/~jens/parse.cgi/about-last-viking.par I don't want anyone to buy the record and feel like they got burned!! :) Jens. (http://www.panix.com/~jens/) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx To: Chris Schulze Subject: Re: This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change! Message-ID: > DTC: I heard from a reliable souce (involved in the album) that the > James LaBrie solo album recordings have been going on for a little while > now. Most of the songwriting was done by some very well known people > from your favorite Magna Carta bands. I was surprised how they kept it a > secret for this long, I would think the hype would actually help album > sales. Sure. People like Mike Keanelley (who, according to James, is up and down the album), Trent Gardner, Matt Guillroy, etc, etc. > ^Christian wonders what Kevin Moore is up to - has he finished up that > filming school yet?... will we ever see other musical efforts from > him?... /me thinks it's time to give Jim Pitulski a ring. :) - mike, dtifc. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:07:10 -0600 From: "Christopher Ptacek" To: Subject: 32nd notes at 200. Message-ID: <000801be38de$99a560c0$message_id_removed> I once gave someone a synth example of this kind of trash on #ytsejam. It's too fast. The ONLY way to get near this speed is to sweep (MAYBE some dudes can economy pick this fast, but Stump is one of the fastest and I think he clocks out at 16th note triplets at 216 or something like that) or tap. That doesn't really count because when you're sweeping or tapping that fast, you're not thinking about note values. Even if you believe JP CAN do this, he's not doing it on AOI (not alternate picking 32nds at 200). That much can be easily proven. I wonder, of course, why anyone would think he could do this, when on his video he had trouble playing 16th notes at 216... 32nd notes at 200 would be just less than twice as fast. (not intending to say that having trouble with 16ths at 216 is ANYTHING to be ashamed of! :) I think I max out at 190, or maybe less right now. I oughta practice my alternate picking more!) - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:22:46 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: more ketchup Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990105122244.00b38be0@objypop> the Mighty Ptacek said: >> From: Chris Oates > >> Actually, I do that for a lot of colors. Then again, I'm red/green >> colorblind, so I have to rely on relative color sense, as my absolute is >> messed up (thanks mom) > > I just meant that you don't HAVE to do that in order to see >something as blue. Your curse (did you know that colorblindness is >predominantly a male disorder?) I know that red/green (the kind I have) is on the X Chromosome. We manly types only have one of those, and so are much more susceptible to it than women, who have a backup. ;) Hence my "Thanks Mom" comment, since I got that chromosome from her. >would be analogous to tone deafness. But >since you're a keyboardist and not an art snob like Eckie, you're probably >functioning just fine in society. Yeah. I just hate it when people hold things up to me and say "what color is this? What color is this?" -- makes me want to go postal. >And tell your GF to stay out of Skadz' >pants! (that's entirely harmless... it just sounds mean if you weren't >there :) I'm sure it was. :P (and 2 points. She's not my girlfriend -- yet, and from what I hear, I don't have to tell her in order to prevent that from happening. ;) Oops, did I just insult skadz? uh oh. I'm in trouble) ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:27:49 -0700 From: Eckie To: Ytse Jam Subject: Alright, you asked for it: NEW YEARS EVIL!!! pt. 1/2 Message-ID: Short version: Soulfly sucked. Slayer kicked ass. Megadeth ruled. Pantera decimated everything. Black Sabbath was upstaged by Pantera. Long version: Once again the likes of Vinnie and Eckie and the big ass van were present at a venue for what seemed to be the perfect backdrop for armegeddon and "the end of the world" kinda antics with bikers, goths, rocker sluts decked out in the usual fishnet and see through panty garb, fanboys for every band performing, and even them crazy Slayer fans with the really interesting mutilations. Thinking that, you know, SOMEBODY would get a clue and open up the roof to the ballpark during the concert, I decided to take my trenchcoat with me. We had another jammer Marc Chadwick (aka Wrath) with us from CT, so he was well pumped up to see this show; "I missed two Dream Theater concerts back home. This better kick ass." We knew of Dino and a friend making a road trip to Phoenix to catch this gig, but we couldn't find him before the show, nor did I ever run into Nate Bradley (http://www.savatage.com/). Nonetheless, Marc and I went to the floor while Vinnie our friend Robert went up to the nosebleeds. The floor was an interesting kettle full of weirdos (including us heheh) including this one guy who walked around with knee high laced leather boots, fatigue pants, razor scars on his wrists, 666 carved into his throat, and a tattoo of a devil on the side of his half shorn head. If you're a fan of tattoo art, this was definitely the place to be! Tattoos on just about everybody there. I think the most interesting one for me was of a noose tied around some dude's neck and trailing down his back.... Marc and I spent much of Soulfly's setup and stage preparation glancing over at a couple of really attractive women decked out in their rocker gear (see through lace blouses can be a good thing ;)) and looking for Dino and Nate. With that many people in one area, it was pretty ridiculous trying to locate anybody, so we sat where we were and Soulfly started up. Not much later we had turned into participating wall bouncers of a mosh pit with a pitbull/tyrannasaurus rex crossbreed wearing a Texaco shirt with the nametag that read "Andy" in delicate cursive letters. This dude was drunk and something else, but he was dominating the pit! Soulfly started playing another song. So then this one chick decided to get into the action and started taking Andy the pitbull t-rex DOWN LIKE A FOOKIN' PANCAKE! It was hilarious watching this lean 110 lbs woman taking down a 250 lbs mutant! Soulfly started another song. So her boyfriend decided to get into the action and turned her into an indentation in the ground before she got back up, tackled him, and gave him a big tonguey french kiss. Marc and I looked back up at the stage and some 12 year old kid was up on stage with Maxx rapping into his own microphone. "GO LITTLE ROCKER!!!" Injuries tallied in the first set (well, from our vantage point): One split head concussion (ppl dragging this guy out of the crowd with blood all over his head), one person with a broken nose, and a lot of people with the bruises that had "Andy" in cursive letters imprinted on their skin. We looked for Dino and Nate between setups and decided to lay back behind the designated moshing area for Slayer...for good reason. The self-mutilated maniacs rushed the stage as Kerry King came out with his big pointy red King V. Awesome set list, but I don't know the names of the Slayer tunes so I couldn't give it to ya heheheh. I think there were 1 or 2 tunes off their new disc and the rest was all the classic Slayer tunes everybody knows and loves. Midway through the set, the seat-ticket holders decided being in a designated seat SUCKED for a Slayer concert and they rushed the security guards as the floor crowd went crazy watching the authority figures hit the ground from being overpowered. Marc and I just cheered and headbanged through the rest of the Slayer set. Much fun. Injuries tallied during Slayer (That I knew of): 1 broken arm, 1 concussion, 1 passed out fanboy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:03:47 -0700 From: Eckie To: Ytse Jam Subject: New Years Evil pt 2/2 Message-ID: Where was I? Oh yeah, the Slayer crowd had overrun security and the stagemonkeys for Megadeth were doing their thing. Marc and I thought it would be a good idea to start making our way to the already crowded front stage area in order to watch Pantera and Black Sabbath in the front row, so much of the setup time (usually when I see Megadeth they take FOREVER to set up) was lost in our constant digging and slinkying trying to get closer to the stage. Then Megadeth took the stage. My first reaction was, "Alright! Dave's on STAHASO WHOOOOOOOOA!" As my feet left the ground and every part of my body was being pressed up by somebody else's hand/head/feet/breasts/you name it, a surge of people pressed towards the stage as Holy Wars was being pounded through the PA system. I managed to get all they way from house left to center stage without even moving my feet! At one point I couldn't breathe and it felt like I had cracked a rib from all the people punching to get through me! I really wish those Megadeth fans would've understood the nature of the relationships between mass and time, and understand that 2 people can not exist in the same exact place at the same time. Nonetheless they continued to pound me into the people behind/ahead/beside me until I was pressed up against this really attractive blonde in a haltertop for a good 5 minutes. (If you're reading this and you were at the show and managed to find this guy in a trenchcoat in the trenches of the Megadeth act, I swear I couldn't move my hand from there...) I think I caught a glimpse of Dave and Marty wanking off on their guitar solos about this time. I couldn't take it anymore. I enjoyed the ability to breathe too much. After being kicked in the face a couple times by the same crowd surfer (i hope he enjoys his groin injury) I started my way out of the trenches and into a clearing..."FREEDOM!" As I sucked in the first good breath of marijuana and tobacco laced air, somebody was kind enough to inform me that the clearing I found was a MOSH PIT--by running me into the ground from my blind side...Naturally I had to return the favor and floor the drunken bastard into the ground. }:^) Megadeth was playing something, but I really can't remember what it was heheheh.... So I had lost a 16 year old kid from CT in a mass of psychotic, drunken, high lunatics during a Megadeth concert, I thought I had cracked a rib, and I was thirsty as hell from moshing in a trench coat. I went to the concession stands for some pizza and coke. Pantera's crew set up everything while I downed a really really hot slice of pepperoni pizza fresh out of the oven topped with fresh cheese and fresh tomato sauce with a plump juicy breaded crust (...Mmmmm....). Right before Phil and the guys took the stage I made my way back down to the floor and back up to the mosh pit area for a great view of Pantera. As for Pantera's live act...probably the best description I've heard are from chatting with Dr. Mosh on the #ytsejam irc, "Experiencing Pantera live is like sitting in a house full of explosives and lighting up a cuban." They REALLY kicked everybody's asses. Dimebag's guitar sound is just loud as hell, Vinnie Paul's double kick was awesome, and Phil sounded better than he's ever sounded! Oh yeah, and Rex played bass too heheheh. The microphone went out on Phil on the second song, which stopped the band in the middle of Mouth for War and wait for the technicians to fix everything. As soon as that was sorted out Phil just explained to the audience, "Every fuckin' show I don't know how many microphones I've broken. But you wanna know why?" Crowd cheered. "I'm a bad motherfucker." The setlist was just skull crushing enough (hell, they played Use my Third arm, I was moshing around) and then they brought out "those two bald bastards" Scott Ian and Kerry King onto stage to play Fucking Hostile. I was lovin' it! Well, until Scott's guitar strap came undone and he spent most of the song trying to get it back on correctly heheh. If you're a metalhead, go see Pantera live. They had to finish their act eventually, and Black Sabbath's crew rigorously worked to get the stage set up. I found Dino and Joe (what's his last name?) standing by the sound crew platform during this time and we exchanged our battle stories and came to the agreement that Pantera had just blown the roof off the place. Black Sabbath started off with a 5-10 minute video montage showing the band members way back when (nice capes guys ;) ) before rising on sunken platforms from below the stage to start their act. I probably would've enjoyed this much more if I hadn't been so overwhelmed by Pantera's act just before it...so I sat down in a vacant seat for the rest of the show nursing my battle wounds and headbanging to those classic Sabbath tunes. As for Toni's guitar tone? Not a big fan of it, honestly...but I have to give props to the dark lord of metal for playing with THIMBLES! It was a great night, an awesome way to ring in the New Year. They opened up the roof at midnight and just as the pot and tobacco fumes had cleared out through the roof, they set off just about every piece of pyrotechnic in their arsenal after Sabbath's set finished. The dazed, drunken and deaf (and TIRED) fans on the floor were showered with black Black Sabbath confetti as we all made our way towards the exits through the smokey fog created by the fireworks. And that's what happened in Phoenix on New Years. }:) ~Dimebag Eckie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:12:42 -0500 From: "Chris Herbst" To: Subject: RE: Songs For Newbies... Message-ID: <000001be38f8$840f6980$bc13bfd1@syrinx> Just curious as to people's opinions on which are the best DT songs to play to those who have never heard them. I think Metropolis would be best for a new listener. Space Dye Vest is really more for people that already know and love the band. Erotomania, 6:00, New Millennium, or Take The Time would also be excellent choices. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:47:24 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Slightly-shady CDR trade request Message-ID: >< I'm looking for a CDR dub of the following Dream Theater rarities. I should point out that what I want are dubs of the actual tracks, *not* the MP3s - I've got those already. MP3s are great to give you an idea of the music, but, as of now, very few of them are actually *as good* as a real never-compressed recording. Swishy cymbals, for instance -- who needs those? Anyhow, the stuff I want... ]From the EP 'Live Bonus Tracks': 1. Caught In A Web '96 (live) 2. Take Away My Pain (live) 3. Burning My Soul (live) 4. Another Hand / The Killing Hand (live) ]From the 'Lie' single: 5. To Live Forever 6. Another Day (live) ]From the Japanese version of 'Falling Into Infinity': 7. Speak To Me 8. Cover My Eyes 9. Take Away My Pain (demo) >< Sorry to break the news, Cover My Eyes isn't on Japan FII. Just listen to the video and christmas CD one and like it. Jim NP - Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:52:40 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4541 Message-ID: << Christina, I didn't realize you were Christina, but I'm glad we met anyway.>> Schnipp, were you they guy running around with Skadz, wearing that rasta- looking hat? Or were you the one with the baseball cap? Help!!! <> I'm glad you like Event!! Did you get to meet Matt at Birch Hill? Those dudes are great buddies, and I love it when people tell me they dig the CD. I do some promotional work for them at shows in the NY area -- handing out flyers, etc -- and I'm trying to drum up some interest so I can get them some gigs out this way. Not an easy task, my friend, but fun, nonetheless! Take care!! Christina ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Derek Sherinian International dereksherinian.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:17:32 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: DT Mailing List Ytsejam Subject: TLF & one deadly serious NDTC Message-ID: Live in Tokyo - To Live Forever: I read somewhere that the jam DT do on this song is not named! One bass part that Myung plays just before the bluesy jazzy stuff of John sounds TOO FAMILIAR to me!!! But I just can't remember the tune name! Also, the Petrucci's solo it's not improvisation IMHO! I don't know about him, but the rhythm section seems perfectly adjusted to what John plays! After the delay effect part where he plays then intro singing of Beatles "Within You Without you" (did someone else notice it?), the moment John goes into pure rock scale, same time Myung starts playing 2 notes bass line. It's obviously something, it's not improvistaion! Any thoughts? Now, I'm very sorry for the total NDTC here, but since this is the only mailing list I'm on (like someone cares) I'm putting it here! I would like to ask a jammer, older than 20, who read the Herman Hesse novel "Game of Glass Perls"!!! Anyone who read it, can you please e-mail me privately for some questions!?!?! P.S. ALAN ESTRADA, if you're still around, I'm STILL waiting for that Dweezil MP3 of the Sabbaath "Wizard"!!!!!!!! -- CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail email_address_removed.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:23:27 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: DT Mailing List Ytsejam Subject: Herman Hesse Message-ID: Sorry, the correct name of the novel was "The Glass Bead Game". -- CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail email_address_removed.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:29:50 -0500 From: Chris Schulze To: Syrinx , email_address_removed Subject: Re: This is so amusing... and some DTC just for a change! Message-ID: Syrinx wrote about the James Labrie solo album...: > Sure. People like Mike Keanelley (who, according to James, is up > and down the album), Trent Gardner, Matt Guillroy, etc, etc. > Yeah, I heard Mike Keneally is doing an awesome job as usual. James is so lucky to work with such talented guitarist :) > > > ^Christian wonders what Kevin Moore is up to - has he finished up that > > filming school yet?... will we ever see other musical efforts from > > him?... > > /me thinks it's time to give Jim Pitulski a ring. :) Yeah but please share the wealth with the rest of us when you do have news :) ^Christian now wonders what's gonna happen with that second Portnoy project, does Syrinx have info on that also? :). ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4542 **************************