YTSEJAM Digest 4506 Today's Topics: 1) Website Update by Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk 2) Sieges Even... by Ivan =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5rdg=E5rd?= 3) Re: Sieges Even by Younis Hilal 4) New Progressive Band by email_address_removed 5) Re: Ytsejam #4505 / Jon Anderson by "Simon John Dodd" 6) PM - Awards by email_address_removed.de 7) Nightwish mp3 (the whole song) by Sorsa Tanja 8) Re: LaBrie by Tom Cox 9) Sorry! by Nick Storr 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4505 by "Kenn Jensen" 11) Random stuff by "Neil Gallop" 12) Re: XMas Eve performed by Savatage, MP a Daddy again? by "Dream Theater" 13) Re: FW: Perpetual Motion Awards 1998 by Peter Geerts 14) Re: Random stuff by "Dream Theater" 15) Rush live gold / Labrie by Dushko 16) Perpetual Motion Awards by David Dixon 17) Sex and the touring vocalist. by Chris Schulze ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:05:56 +0000 From: Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Website Update Message-ID: --openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000002" --openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="BDY.RTF" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.RTF" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.angelfire.com/nb/NIXB/ More updates and more links!! --openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000002 Content-Type: application/rtf; name="BDY.RTF" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="BDY.RTF" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 e1xydGYxXGFuc2lcYW5zaWNwZzEyNTJcZnJvbXRleHQgXGRlZmYwe1xmb250dGJsDQp7XGYw XGZzd2lzcyBBcmlhbDt9DQp7XGYxXGZtb2Rlcm4gQ291cmllciBOZXc7fQ0Ke1xmMlxmbmls XGZjaGFyc2V0MiBTeW1ib2w7fQ0Ke1xmM1xmbW9kZXJuXGZjaGFyc2V0MCBDb3VyaWVyIE5l dzt9fQ0Ke1xjb2xvcnRibFxyZWQwXGdyZWVuMFxibHVlMDtccmVkMFxncmVlbjBcYmx1ZTI1 NTt9DQpcdWMxXHBhcmRccGxhaW5cZGVmdGFiMzYwIFxmMFxmczIwXGNmMCBodHRwOi8vd3d3 LmFuZ2VsZmlyZS5jb20vbmIvTklYQi9ccGFyDQpccGFyDQpccGFyDQpNb3JlIHVwZGF0ZXMg YW5kIG1vcmUgbGlua3MhIVxwYXINCn0= --openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000002-- --openmail-part-01bdbba9-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:21:02 +0100 From: Ivan =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5rdg=E5rd?= To: DT Mailinglist Subject: Sieges Even... Message-ID: <36776D6D.2873479A@2mtv.no> David Dixon: Does anyone like or listen to Sieges Even? I have heard very favorable reviews, especially of their album "Steps" (supposedly it sounds like a very technical Rush with a better vocalist - no offense to the Rush fans - I love Geddy's vox myself)... I've got this record, but I wouldn't say that Rush was the first thing that came up on my mind... They sound like...German...and together with their album-cover, It gives me some strange vibes... i the van ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:31:47 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Hilal To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sieges Even Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > From: David Dixon > > Does anyone like or listen to Sieges Even? I have heard very favorable > reviews, especially of their album "Steps" (supposedly it sounds like a very > technical Rush with a better vocalist - no offense to the Rush fans - I love > Geddy's vox myself)... I have all of SE's CDs. Except for the one on "A Sense of Change," the vocalists in SE are pretty bad. The one on Steps, in particular, is so terrible that his efforts have made me laugh. That's kinda cold, I know, but it's true. As for them being technical, that part is very true. SE is super-technical at everything they've done, but their "Rush" era consists of the CDs Sense of Change and Steps. If you're big on Rush, I recommend you start with those. My own favorite happens to be Sense of Change, mainly because I really like the melodies on that CD. Steps is a really, uh, "moody" CD (goes through lots of mood swings), but it does have a kick-ass 25-minute song:). I got mp3s of their stuff. If you want some, let me know. Also, I forgot to mention that ALL their CDs are awesome. Younis email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:34:12 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: New Progressive Band Message-ID: Visit The Official Site Of Money For The Toll. Download some sample wavs or MP3s. You will not be disappointed! http://www.mftt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:39:20 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytsejam #4505 / Jon Anderson Message-ID: >James. It's like Yes, who better than Jon Anderson? Pretty much anyone going, I'd have thought. I like Yes and all that, but the vocals always got on my nerves as a rule. JMO. Si ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:04:41 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de To: email_address_removed Subject: PM - Awards Message-ID: Hoi! Had to jump out of the lurker's hole... >Shit-eater (aka Worst) disc: >3.Tie: "Younique" (Superior)/ "Mechanical Animals" (Marilyn Manson) WAHARHARHARHAR!!! :)))) Is that an honor or what? :))) bye Bernd --------------------------------------------------------- Bernd Basmer Guitar - Superior For information about Superior have a look at: http://www.truemetal.org/superior http://www.fine.de/superior http://www.noiserecords.com --------------------------------------------------------- Why be normal? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:05:56 +0200 From: Sorsa Tanja To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Nightwish mp3 (the whole song) Message-ID: Oi! My friend put the whole "Passion and the Opera" mp3 on his homepage. It will be there for this week, so check it out if you want to hear new Nightwish. Now I haven't heard it as I don't have that friggin soundcard on my computer so I know nothing about the quality... etc. http://www.sit.fi/~fear/Nightwish-PassionAndTheOpera.zip Enjoy! The album is a killer! Tanja (Tenze) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:47:06 -0600 From: Tom Cox To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: LaBrie Message-ID: what needs to be realized also is that comparing OIALT with 5YIALT is in itself wrong... OIALT is a ONE-NIGHT recording, 5yialt is spread out all over the place... nearly 3 hours of one night's music on 2 discs is gonna have some mistakes, and not just Labrie's... if yer looking for perfection at live shows, yer missing the whole point in the first place, ya already own the damn albums, live is for the MOMENT, the experience, the band... would you rather see a bunch of trees up there playing perfectly all night long, with no entertainment value whatsoever? I think not... and if that IS true, then put the albums back in, and quit gripin man, cuz it doesn't get any better than this... OIALT is awesome in my opinion, in ALL facets... Tom Cox email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:34:24 +1100 From: Nick Storr To: email_address_removed Subject: Sorry! Message-ID: Hey... Thanks for giving my last post the response it deserved (nothing!) I must've been tired... Sorry! Nick Nick Storr email_address_removed.au members.easyspace.com/honour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:14:00 +0100 From: "Kenn Jensen" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4505 Message-ID: <000e01be28ed$af42bfa0$8b09f2d4@bcc10174> Hi everyone Well I nearly got sick what came up on this list: George Michael. Well what'll be next...? And some say Metallica is a grayzone, well.... The reason I am writing is this: Perpetual Motion Awards 1998: Prog Metal Disc: 1.Shadow Gallery- "Tyranny" Prog Rock/Neo-Prog Disc: 1. Ayreon- "Into the Electric Castle" Extreme disc (stuff that just don't fit anywhere else): 1.Therion- "Vovin" Well what can I say my 3 faves of 1998 becoming No. 1 in each their catagory - cool! So if any of you dudes don't have all 3 - get them.... Later Kenn Homepage: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc10174 NP Mesmerize - Tales Of Wonder (anybody know'em..?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:32:30 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" To: Subject: Random stuff Message-ID: <000101be28f0$25fd6c60$message_id_removed.de> Hi all first off, thanks to all of you who have submitted your top 5 lists. Keep them coming - please remember, the albums you vote for must have been released in 1998, and send the lists to me, not to the Ytsejam. Sieges Even - I have "Sophisticated" and "Uneven". Very complex and very jazzy. Don't expect pure prog or prog metal and you might like them, although they take some time to get into. The more impatient members are already asking why the second album by Liquid Tension Experiment is taking so long(!). Well, this picture might be the answer - does it show Mike PornToy recovering from a heavy drinking session with his German friend Jay Germeister? http://www.iamdrunk.com/ddecrun2_2.jpg Certainly looks like him. Arash recently posted the results of some survey - since when has "Explorers Club" been an instrumental album? Would have been better if it was. And then there was the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa... stay safe and happy listening (regardless of which gauge you use) Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag) Currently playing: Electric Wizard - Supercoven "Go back to bed America, your government is in control" Bill Hicks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 05:09:46 PST From: "Dream Theater" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: XMas Eve performed by Savatage, MP a Daddy again? Message-ID: This is definitely true!! Well, I can't vouge for the boy part, but his wife is definitely pregnant. I saw her and Melody (his beautiful daughter) walking around at the clinic in LI on the 1st. She is really a cutie. I think putting a tattoo of her footprint on his shoulder was such cool idea. As a matter of fact, it gave me and my wife a really cool idea. We want to put a tattoo of our daughters right palmprint on my left shoulder and her left palmprint on my wife's right shoulder. Congratulations Mike!!! Mike ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:09:39 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: email_address_removed ]From: email_address_removed To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: XMas Eve performed by Savatage, MP a Daddy again? Hey all - >> and i guess i'm just wondering how the song was >> performed live, if ever, by Savatage..... > Interesting question..... I wish I knew the answer! Anybody? Actually, some time ago, Open All Night Records posted a set list of a Savatage gig played in France recently. (At the time, I e-mailed them about the show, and they said that they'd be issuing it in December). Anyway, the show had a KILLER set list (I wish that I had copied it down), and if I remember correctly, the band performed X-Mas Eve/Sarajevo at that show. I am really looking forward to hearing this, and I hope that the December boot- release date they gave me is accurate. Also, I don't think that this has been posted yet, but this appeared in the most recent issue of Metal Edge during the 1998 Year in Review section: [Mike is] looking forward to "doing a Liquid Tension Experiment tour in January, the next DT album (we have some cool stuff up our sleeves), and most importantly, the birth of my second child - and my first boy! - in March." Holy Crap!! Mike, if this is true, big fat hearty Congrats!! That's it for now. C-Ya!! - Matt T. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:34:44 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: FW: Perpetual Motion Awards 1998 Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Arash Ashouriha wrote: Okay, my $.02 on the perpetual motion Awards. BTW, Arash... who organized this poll and how could people vote on it? > Power Metal Disc: > 1. Blind Guardian- "Nightfall in Middle Earth" > 2. Iced Earth- "Something Wicked This Way Comes" > 3. Angra- "Fireworks > Honorable Mention: Rhapsody- Symphony of Enchanted Lands, Edguy- Vain Glory > Opera, Evergrey- The Dark Discovery What???? Hey come on... Rhapsody's new album is WAAAYYY better than Angra's. Oh well... I didn't vote, blame me... > Prog Rock/Neo-Prog Disc: > 1. Ayreon- Into the Electric Castle > 2. Tie: Arena- "The Visitor"/Explorer's Club- "Age of Impact" Honorable > Mention: Spock's Beard- "Kindness of Strangers" Hmmm... Spock's Beard should be in the top-3, but I agree completely with Ayreon. > Instrumental disc: > *1.Liquid Tension Experiment- "LTE" > Technical: > 3. Liquid Tension Experiment- "LTE" Hehe... no comment:-) > > Live disc: > Honorable Mention- Dream Theater- "Once in a Livetime" Hmmm... Honorable mention???? what about a f*cking top-3 spot? > Band least deserving of a Major label deal: > 1. Dream Theater HUH?????? > Disappointment disc: > Honorable Mention: "Once in a Livetime"- Dream Theater HUH?????? > Hall of Fame (3 inductees): > 1. Dream Theater Aha! And what struck me, was that a lot of voters REALLY seemed to like Symphony X and Stratovarius. Look how much top-3 spots they have in the 'positive' categories... (two very good bands though, mind you) Cheers Zaphod ============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* email_address_removed.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 05:45:27 PST From: "Dream Theater" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Random stuff Message-ID: It looks more like John Petrucci to me. ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:45:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: email_address_removed ]From: "Neil Gallop" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Random stuff Hi all first off, thanks to all of you who have submitted your top 5 lists. Keep them coming - please remember, the albums you vote for must have been released in 1998, and send the lists to me, not to the Ytsejam. Sieges Even - I have "Sophisticated" and "Uneven". Very complex and very jazzy. Don't expect pure prog or prog metal and you might like them, although they take some time to get into. The more impatient members are already asking why the second album by Liquid Tension Experiment is taking so long(!). Well, this picture might be the answer - does it show Mike PornToy recovering from a heavy drinking session with his German friend Jay Germeister? http://www.iamdrunk.com/ddecrun2_2.jpg Certainly looks like him. Arash recently posted the results of some survey - since when has "Explorers Club" been an instrumental album? Would have been better if it was. And then there was the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa... stay safe and happy listening (regardless of which gauge you use) Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag) Currently playing: Electric Wizard - Supercoven "Go back to bed America, your government is in control" Bill Hicks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:10:53 +0100 From: Dushko To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush live gold / Labrie Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:28:02 -0700 > From: David Dixon > Subject: Different Stages goes Gold > > <<<<"DIFFERENT STAGES," the all-new multi-disc live collection from > Rush, has been certified gold by the RIAA for U.S. sales in excess > of 500,000 units. With this, their 22nd gold album certification, > the Canadian trio is now fourth among groups on the RIAA's > all-time gold certification list, OK now, so this is like HUGE success right? So what now, will it be noticed by anyone or ...? Will someone smeel money out of it? Will prog get more airplay and exposure? #35 on Billboard, that's pretty good too, isn't it? But what then? Will this world get healty again? No matter how bad it sounds, I realised the same "sickness" in my country: Folks just don't listen good music anymore! The problem is not the media airplay, since the media plays what they thing folks want! And folks want the cute Hansons and Backstreet Boys! Geez, how can bunch of bands that sound like the crappy Oasis have so big airplay? What is that music, like they're all made in same factory! I heard Americans complaining about MTV and radio broadcasts, but is that REALLY the problem??? How we're different from others, how did YOU discovered DT, Rush ... Who am I to claim that I'm the only intelligent smart-ass who listens and likes "good" music? Maybe I'm the fool and the world is OK! > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:44:26 -0500 > From: Adam Pye > Subject: LaBrie > > I'm glad to see a few folks defending James on OIAL. Ya want support? You have one for sure! :) -- CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail email_address_removed.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:40:08 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Perpetual Motion Awards Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809133@messaging> <<< Instrumental disc: *1.Liquid Tension Experiment- "LTE" 2. Vitalij Kuprij- "Extreme Measures" 3. Explorer's Club- "Age of Impact" >>> Funny how 'Age of Impact' isn't instrumental.... David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:34:56 -0500 From: Chris Schulze To: email_address_removed Subject: Sex and the touring vocalist. Message-ID: Adam said: > To compare the live performances of someone, say, on the > pittiful QR Hear in the Now Frontier tour to James after 50 shows in three > months is ludicrous. Dude, the easiest way of trying to make somebody look good is trying to bash on his competition, and that's exactly what you're trying to do. It's a very cheap shot if I may say so. I saw Geoff on that "pittiful tour" which was still much bigger than what Dream Theater has done, and they went more places too. And guess what, Geoff always delivers from what I'm told. When somebody complains about Geoff Tate, the only complain I hear is "well, he can't hit those high notes anymore". Which in some nights he can - when they played Tampa his voice was awesome and he hit every note on the old stuff, including stuff from Rage for Order which really had me impressed. You will never hear somebody complaining that Geoff is off pitch, or that his voice is just gone after the third song, or that he uses "vocal techniques" that sound lame (like the breathing vowel thing or whatever it's called), much less that people have no idea of what he's singing when he's hitting high notes. So instead of dissing Geoff Tate to try and make LaBrie look good, just do your homework next time, or else shut up. Christian. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4506 **************************