YTSEJAM Digest 4433 Today's Topics: 1) "a bitch" by David Dixon 2) SIMAAM by David Dixon 3) by email_address_removed 4) LaBrie by David Dixon 5) re: Tool by Brian Hansen 6) Re: Movie and Trevor Rabin? by Ryan Park 7) Rabin, 7-string songs, Warning to guitarists! by "Thomas Forcier" 8) Re: Stuff to look for in 5yial !!! by "Dennis Leeflang" 9) Re: Stuff by "Dennis Leeflang" 10) English spoken.... by "Dennis Leeflang" 11) Devin Townsend "Infinity" by Phillip 12) John Arch by David Dixon 13) Re: 7-String DT songs by email_address_removed 14) FS: Thought Industry CD (NDTC) by Dan Temmesfeld 15) one of the many by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 16) complaint by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 17) and one more thing by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 18) DT 7-string songs by email_address_removed 19) 5YiaL question by Mike Pontrelli 20) Re: John Arch by email_address_removed 21) LI Drum Center Portnoy Clinic by "BassicRob" 22) Re: Symphony X by "Kez" 23) Re: Rabin, 7-string songs, Warning to guitarists! by Carlos Alfaro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:14:15 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: "a bitch" Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498090C5@messaging> <<< That would be spoken by Phil Hartman at Alcatraz in the movie "So I Married an Axe Murderer". >>> Very good - from one of the best movies of all time... :) David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:16:37 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: SIMAAM Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498090C6@messaging> Another great line from the same great movie (from Andrew's sig).. <<< "I don't know, we haven't gotten to that crucial Do-you-know-the-lyrics-to-'Only-You' stage in our relationship." -- Charlie, "So I Married an Axe Murderer" >>> David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Message-ID: For the jammers that like RAY GILLEN, his last sessions are available at Impulsemusic.com. They also have the new YNGWIE MALMSTEEN (everybody please take a bow) video, "Live in Brazil" for 24.99. And the double cd for 18. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:22:16 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: LaBrie Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498090C7@messaging> Well, you know, I can sing nearly an octave higher than that in falsetto (and most people can and still make it sound decent), but that is NOT falsetto. Go ahead and listen to LtL, TTT, AD, ACoS. They all E's which are DEFINITELY not falsetto. LtL is an F#, so I'm SURE he can sing a G. And he's got kids, so I guess he's not a castrotto... :) David Dixon Stubborn LaBrie Supporter email_address_removed <<< that part is incredibly falsetto. Yeah, it's impressive that he sings that high, but I think it sounds pretty cheezy since he can't add the fullness of his natural voice. Plus, that line just seems to be way too high in the mix relative to the otehr vocal parts, but that could just be a characteristic of it's highness and thin tone. go listen to it, and it's easy to hear the falsetto. >>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:54:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: re: Tool Message-ID: Graham Borland queried: > What was all the fuss about Tool? I read loads of good things about >them on the Jam recently, so I bought Aenima, and I think it's one of >the most terminally dull albums I've ever heard. I got into Tool right when "Undertow" came out, and I think that Undertow's a little better. But a lot of people got into Tool after Aenima, and like that best. I'll admit that I thought it was a little "dull" at first. Too much excess sound effects (BS) between songs. But you should give it more of a chance. It grows on you, and there's some really cool parts buried in there, you just have to find them. - BH NP - Jane's Addiction/Ritual de lo Habitual _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:59:01 -0500 From: Ryan Park To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Movie and Trevor Rabin? Message-ID: Hey... > In addition to "Enemy of the State" (which I was not aware of), Rabin did > the score for "Armageddon" and "The Rock" and some others. He's also > doing the score for an upcoming movie named "Jack Frost" with Michael > Keaton. It's about a rock band, I think, but I don't know any more than > that. Rabin's actually acts in the movie too, which will probably be a > riot. I think I'm going to have to see it, seeing as IMDB has, among cast > members, Henry Rollins and Dweezil Zappa. According to the IMDB, Trevor Rabin wrote the scores for the following movies: The Glimmer Man (1996) Con Air (1997) Homegrown (1998) Armageddon (1998) Enemy of the State (1998) Jack Frost (1998) The score for The Rock (1996) was composed by Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, with "additional music" by Don Harpera and Steven M. Stern, and "two themes" by Hans Zimmer. I believe Mr. Zimmer receives primary billing for the score. I have too much time on my hands :) Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:57:45 -0500 From: "Thomas Forcier" To: Subject: Rabin, 7-string songs, Warning to guitarists! Message-ID: Hello, >for the movie "Enemy of the State", >that Trevor Rabin is doing the music? I think Trevor is in contract with producer Jerry Bruckenheiner, as (to my knowledge) he has scored every one of Jerry's films over the last three years. > Does anyone know all the songs where JP uses his 7-string ? Awake: 6:00, CiaW, Voices, Mirror, Lie, Scarred? (not sure there), and SDV is either dropped-D or a 7 string ACOS: ACOS FiI: New Millenium, JLMB Those are the ones I know of. I have frequently wondered why, if so many DT songs are on a 7 string, the JPM models are not 7 strings themselves. Not that they don't kick ass in their own right. And since I'm on the subject, a quick warning to all you guitarists: when buying a geetar with a Floyd Rose, DO NOT BUY A BASSWOOD BODY GUITAR. I just found out, after a $80 repair estimate, that most luthiers consider basswood too soft to support a Floyd. In the case of my guitar, one of the posts is angling forward in the wood because its too soft to support it. And yes, the low-end RGs are basswood (mine's a Washburn MG, same thing as an RG really). Just an FYI. Stodgers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:02:19 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" Subject: Re: Stuff to look for in 5yial !!! Message-ID: <000d01be134f$e60cdf60$message_id_removed.nl> Carlos Alfaro wrote: <<< Well besides what Jose said about the 2 guys kissing behind Portnoy and the fat dude from Pantera, >>> That fat dude can play faster and heavier than any other drummer on this planet... He will even beat MP... (Although there are some things MP does, that VP wouldn't dare doin'...). Get the Pantera "Live, 101 Proof" album.... Then mail again... you'll respect him.... Stickmaster D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:04:41 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: <000f01be1350$380f70c0$message_id_removed.nl> Kyle McCabe wrote: <<<>>> That's a guitar kabinet with no speakers in it... Cool eh? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:13:42 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" Subject: English spoken.... Message-ID: <001d01be1351$7f2eba00$message_id_removed.nl> AL wrote: <<<>> Cool..... New style? Dickmaster D. (hehehe...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:13:38 +0000 From: Phillip To: email_address_removed Subject: Devin Townsend "Infinity" Message-ID: Does anyone on this list have this sick and twisted puppy? Seriously, INFINITY has to be one of the most uniquely insane cds i've heard. As devin says, "A roller coaster ride through a madhouse." Awesome. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:54:27 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: John Arch Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C96056498090CA@messaging> So I guess those of you who don't like KJLB's upper register ramblings don't like John Arch, huh... I was listening to "The Spectre Within" earlier and I was amazed at how much he wanders. I'd say about half is singing is on "AHH", just acting like an instrument, not a vocalist at all (absolutely no lyrics). Also, how many of you like Arch better than Alder (probably not too many, eh?)? He suits FW's older, more metal-oriented style. They've sure calmed down a bit... Just curious, David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:02:54 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 7-String DT songs Message-ID: He uses a 7 string on: Caught in a Web The Mirror Lie A Change of Seasons (the way they do it now, not TDoE) New Millennium and Just Let Me Breathe Matt ===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica ===================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:02:27 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld To: email_address_removed Subject: FS: Thought Industry CD (NDTC) Message-ID: Thought Industry "Assassins, Toads, and God's Flesh" $9, shipping included. email me if interested. Dan +--- ---+ Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web email_address_removed http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "He who laughs last thinks slowest" +--- ---+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:12:58 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: one of the many Message-ID: this little snippet from Mr. Dixon's defense of kjlb is one of the reasons i dig DT so much..... background (octave doubled) vox at about 8:00, when he sings the ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i guess it applies to the whole prog scene, too.....how many "mainstream" bands can you jusut casually point to a song of their and go, oh, about the 8 minute mark, he then does this and that? the little things can mean so much....... partha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:22:21 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: complaint Message-ID: please join me in a hearty "BLLEP" to those fools who bought all the bleacher tickets to the detroit lions thanksgiving game within three minutes of their going on sale on monday, and to ticketmaster for not warning my l'il bro that the tickets might go so fast....he got to a TM station a bit early, and then checked in at 10:03, 3 minutes after the tickets were to go on sale, and they were gone..... not like you need another reason to curse ticketmaster, but just in case you were running out of breath on your last round of impotent sputterings about service charges and the like, here's something else to spew about...... guess i'm just gonna have to sit my ass at home and watch the game on TV like all the other turkey grubbin' football lovin' freaks next thursday..... partha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:27:55 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: email_address_removed Subject: and one more thing Message-ID: who sez ya gotta be perfect on a live album, anyway? go pull out that Live After Death album, and listen to ol' Bruce sputter and fumigate his way through the classics of maiden literature....perfect he ain't, and perfect he didn't need to be..... as far as Labrie, i'm not sure that I care that i can't quite understand him at times, becauseu in those instances on disc, his voice basically becomes another instrument in the dream theater arsenal livewise, when he falters, agreed, it is kinda painful, because he's either on, or way off, and rarely with any middle ground.....but as for as the live enunciation goes, same as above applies, his voice is an instrument, and we oughta enjoy it, knowing in our heads what he words are, and fillin' 'em in with our own puny little (lack of any true) vocal abilities...... partha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:34:34 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT 7-string songs Message-ID: In a message dated 98-11-18 18:13:47 EST, you write: << To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 7stringDT Message-ID: > Does anyone know all the songs where JP uses his 7-string ? Yes, I do. Steve Z >> Yeah, I do too. -JK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: 5YiaL question Message-ID: On my copy Derek's keys seem WAY too low in the mix - has anyone else noticed this, or is it possible thatmy tape is messed up? It sounds great except for Derek's keys, especially in 6:00. Cheers! -Ponte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:58:55 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: John Arch Message-ID: >< So I guess those of you who don't like KJLB's upper register ramblings don't like John Arch, huh... I was listening to "The Spectre Within" earlier and I was amazed at how much he wanders. I'd say about half is singing is on "AHH", just acting like an instrument, not a vocalist at all (absolutely no lyrics). Also, how many of you like Arch better than Alder (probably not too many, eh?)? He suits FW's older, more metal-oriented style. They've sure calmed down a bit... >< Alder's a better singer, but I just happen to like the Arch-era songs more. Not to say APSoG isn't a masterpiece. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:05:54 -0500 From: "BassicRob" To: "ytsejam" Subject: LI Drum Center Portnoy Clinic Message-ID: <000201be1361$23f88e80$650106c0@rob> Hey Jammers' Anyone going to the Portnoy Drum clinic on L.I. email me. I was planning on going and maybe we can meet up. Its only about a 10 minute drive from my house (i live in south massapequa and the clinic is in north massapequa, yay!). Anyway, email me privately as i am unsubbing. Don't know if its for good but i just haven't had the patience or time to skim through the off-topic jams. Laterz =A0=A0=A0-Rob, email_address_removed ICQ# 15762800 email_address_removed DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:08:02 -0500 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: Symphony X Message-ID: <008201be1361$7083e4c0$6a19efce@Kez> >The Eyes of Medusa from The Divine Wings of Tragedy album. I a friend of mine >made a tape of the album for me (which I lost after about a month), but I've >never been more impressed by a band. Talk about beyond expectation. You don't >need to listen to more MP3s, you will like the album, trust me. However, I >haven't had much luck finding it. SO if you find it somehere for an >unridiculous price, let me know. The Laser's Edge: http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/ I just got it for $15. I don't particularly like it. But I must be the ONLY one. I heard nothing but raves about this one, so I bought it. I haven't made it through one complete listen yet. Just doesn't do it for me. Sounds like Malmsteen with Dio on vocals. Oh well, to each his own. I also got Conception - In Your Multitude, which just kicks all ass, and Superior - Behind, which rocks reeeeal good. I also bought the highly recommended(by Ken Golden) Arkhe self titled CD, and am having some real trouble getting into it. I like the tunes, but the guy is just trying SO hard for that KJLB sound(maybe TOO hard), that it's hard to digest. I'll keep trying with this one and SymX though, 'cause I would hate to have to disagree with anyone. :) Keep 'jamming, Kez P.S. Listen to YtseRadio! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:16:08 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Rabin, 7-string songs, Warning to guitarists! Message-ID: Thomas Forcier wrote: > > Does anyone know all the songs where JP uses his 7-string ? > > Awake: > 6:00, CiaW, Voices, Mirror, Lie, Scarred? (not sure there), > and SDV is either dropped-D or a 7 string 6:00, voices? scarred?! If he did use them , he only did on the album ( and i still doubt it, since the transcription book done by Jp himself the songs are for 6 string.. and hes never played any of these 3 songs with a 7 string live ...AFAIK > ACOS: > ACOS > FiI: > New Millenium, JLMB > > Those are the ones I know of. I have frequently wondered why, if so many DT > songs are on a 7 string, the JPM models are not 7 strings themselves. Not > that they don't kick ass in their own right. > And since I'm on the subject, a quick warning to all you guitarists: when > buying a geetar with a Floyd Rose, DO NOT BUY A BASSWOOD BODY GUITAR. I > just found out, after a $80 repair estimate, that most luthiers consider > basswood too soft to support a Floyd. In the case of my guitar, one of the > posts is angling forward in the wood because its too soft to support it. > And yes, the low-end RGs are basswood (mine's a Washburn MG, same thing as > an RG really). Just an FYI. > > Stodgers -- "[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4433 **************************