YTSEJAM Digest 4418 Today's Topics: 1) Who's That Man???? by email_address_removed 2) Re: Bootlegging/ new Yes keyboardist... by Peter Tatischev 3) trecial night by "Schnipp -" 4) Macht- power (german can be confusing) by Philip Griffiths 5) Bootlegs -> Metallica -> BM -> Homosexuals -> Testicular Cancer -> Bootlegs by "Ryan Whitaker" 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4417 by "Max Verran" 7) YNGWIE by email_address_removed 8) Dereks HOME PAGE by email_address_removed 9) L.T.E. BEST INSTRUMENTAL cd of the year by "Matija" 10) LTE chat by CyberDuke 11) Re: 1999 hall of fame inductees are in... by Damon Fibraio 12) Re: Yes, NDTC by Damon Fibraio 13) Macht/macht - total NDTC! by "Alex O'Connell" 14) You're invited! by Yahoo! Clubs 15) Re: L.T.E. BEST INSTRUMENTAL cd of the year by NuGgeTMaN 16) Derek by Kyle McCabe 17) Notebooks, Cd vs Tape Trade by Chris Oates ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:46:09 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Who's That Man???? Message-ID: Hey! Can anyone tell me who is the luscious man in the promo video of 'Hollow Years'? He looks like John Petrucci but has shorter darker hair. Same sort of goatee beard though. Also Derek Sherinian is clean shaven in the same video. Does anyone else agree that he looks better without the facial fungus? Lust in the dust Ice Queen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:32:17 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bootlegging/ new Yes keyboardist... Message-ID: >>Some bands allow taping gear at their shows. I don't think DT does. I >interpret this as NOT wanting their music recorded without permission. Maybe >I'm wrong and this and it's a contractual thing, but I seem to recall MP >saying >>something along the lines of - putting that Bahr guy 'out-of-business' on >the jam a while back. > >the band is split on the subject. Mike P doesn't mind boots and has quite a >few. i think james doesn't like em, and i dunno about the rest of em. I believe James doesn't like bootlegs because it allows people who have never heard DT live imagine how awful he sounds (or sounded - because he is much better now, I believe) live - his awful attempts to pitch those highest notes and stuff... well, I don't want to get into this 'KJLB sucks' thread again, because I really like his voice though (especially those high notes!! :-)) Well, maybe this is not the reason he is opposed to bootlegging, but it seems pretty reasonable though. Btw, I believe that when MP said about putting 'Mike Bahr out of business' he ment that he'd start distributing some of the recordings he did at the shows or something of that kind. And about the new Yes keyboardist - I believe I heard one record with Sergey while he was still here in Russia and I gotta say he is pretty much amazing. Actually there are quite many 'top-of-the-list' keyboardists here in Russia, mainly because of the keyboard-teching tradition which is quite different from that in the US. But almost none of them want to play prog, well, there are several people who like Yes/Genesis/ELP stuff, but noone wants to play DT or FW. It's just that my band is looking for a keyboardist over here and we couldn't find one for about half a year now... Sorry, just thought I'd complain... :-( ================================================================= I believe that what I am feeling Changes how the world appears... Neil Peart of Rush ************************************ http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:27:50 PST From: "Schnipp -" To: email_address_removed Subject: trecial night Message-ID: hi max v. I don't know what trecial is either, just sounds like it. Thanks for the help on notebooks,lol. Does anybody else like the first disc of OiaL better just because it's faster? schnipp NP: Robin Beck - First Time(just kidding) Elliott Smith - X0 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:05:37 +0100 From: Philip Griffiths To: email_address_removed Subject: Macht- power (german can be confusing) Message-ID: > Actually "Macht" does mean power, you were thinking of the verb "machen"- to do.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:13:18 -0600 From: "Ryan Whitaker" To: Subject: Bootlegs -> Metallica -> BM -> Homosexuals -> Testicular Cancer -> Bootlegs Message-ID: <000a01be0e81$5f46d440$e4a5410c@dwhit> Hi everybody, It's amazing how some subjects just keep re-surfacing. It's the circle of life here at the Ytsejam. You're all entitled to your own opinions about bootlegs. I love 'em, some people hate 'em. The fact is I wouldn't be such a huge DT fan if it weren't for Mike Bahr and his bootlegs. The first one I ever owned was Acoustic Dreams, and I've been a hound for all DT CDs and tapes ever since. I find it strange that I own a relatively awesome collection of rare DT tapes, etc. I got them all from trades. Why haven't they already been massively distributed as they're so readily available? I guess it takes *me* to bring these gems to the light? Too busy to look? Then yes, Scarred is a service. Now, let's take the Rotterdam show. What kind of equipment do you need to get this masterpiece put on CD? First of all, a DAT recorder ($700), 7-pin-to-coax ($50), digital soundcard ($430). Not to mention the computer and the CDR burner (which don't really count since I've had them for so long). Yep, I bought all that equipment pretty much for the service of putting the Rotterdam DAT on CD. Other than that, I've put maybe 20 hours of use on my DAT recorder, taping the three shows DT did here in Texas (as well as the November 1, 1998 GC & KX gig). And a lot of you would gladly say that this is just money spent on playtoys. Believe me, I'm sure all this expensive equipment just loves sitting in my apartment *all* day while I'm in the computer lab. I literally never get time to sit down and fool with it all, enticing as it is. And I *could* have skimped and done an analog transfer of the DAT to the computer and saved $430. A lot of money goes into all of this. And of course I make a profit on bootlegging eventually. After all, who can magically predict how many discs you'll ever sell and how many problems you'll encounter, then figure out the price accordingly to where it comes out exactly even? You have to be *very* near-sighted (in looking towards the future). Running low prices does NOT jive with emergency situations (see next paragraph) OR being near-sighted. And who can predict mishaps like what happened to me this summer? If some of you don't remember, I bought 700 pieces of faulty media. I shipped out around 150 discs using that bad media. Once I realized the discs sucked, I stopped my business and took the time (and a long time it did take) to buy new media and send out replacements to each and every affected customer. This mistake easily cost me $2000 (not even counting lost sales over the two months), and I was really hard up for cash. I was deathly close to closing up Scarred for good. I could have screwed the customers over, but I didn't. Another benefit of Scarred is that this helps put out 'definitive' versions of shows. As in, there's lots of 'master' copies floating around, so you never have to go far to find an original, instead of worrying about how many analog gens a tape has been through. Another thing. When the masses get together and plan to roll out massive tape trees of the stuff I take the time to collect (again, I do it all through trading like *anybody* else could), it severely dampens motivation to put new stuff out. I guess that would be victory for some of you, but then good luck finding that cool material. Oh wait, it's *EASY* to find all that cool material! The search shouldn't be hard at all! I'm a huge fan of complete packaged boots. That's why I take the time to provide professionally-printed multi-page magazine-quality liners and painted discs. I'm especially going all out with the Rotterdam show, including lots of original photos and pro-designed legit liner art. It ain't just a disc in a jewel case with a paper liner. People e-mail me every day how my boots of late look like official releases. I've e-mailed Adam Pye several times in the past, and he's a cool guy. He's bought a boot from me before, and even lent me some web space to use with my site. Hrm. =) Anyway, I guess we agree to disagree on this subject. And Buck Stodgers, I think he just plain hates me. heh Anyway, this is all stuff you could have read off all Mike Bahr's defenses awhile back. It's not smooth sailing, as much as you all would like to think. Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records - Bootlegs Galore 'N More! =P http://scarred.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:13:31 PST From: "Max Verran" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4417 Message-ID: Some big "O" pillaged and plundered through the land with might and fury as he raped the townswomen of their mud: >>>"Musik ist Macht... Music is power..." Please allow me to interfere, since this makes me feel VERY uncertain with things.I have read German for about a year and a half (so far), and I have never heard of the word "Macht" as "power". To me, "Macht" is the word for "does" (He/she/it does = er/es/sie macht). I'm a moron, yes, but I don't think "Macht" means "power"... or does it? Arash, or any German on this list, please confirm or deny.<<< Sorry if this has been explained already. the word MACHT has 2 meanings. As a verb it means makes or does, and as a noun it means power. As I am not Deutch, it WAS pointed out to me that I actually did that wrong. I said "Misic ist macht". THAT means "music is does/makes". I SHOULD have wrote it "Musik ist Macht", capitalized like you did. That DOES mean "Music is power". Neil Gallop gets credit for this one. ThanX! Weird language... but English is still the dumbest language of them all. And I guess my Queensryche - 'Hear In The Now Frontier' opinions didn't get through, so here goes again: Well, at first I hated it. Sounded all grungey. There were only like 2 songs that sounded like Queensryche (You and Reach). But I forced myself 2 listen again and again, and I discovever that I totally loved stuff like The Voice Inside, Saved, Hit The Black, and even All I Want. Even though it's more raw sounding, it's not grunge in my opinion. It can't beat Empire, or Rage, but it still rocks. And I still don't know what anybody has against FII. Sure it's not AS proggy as the others, but the songwriting IS better, and it doesn't sound monotonous at all. I think Awake is the low point (well, by DT standards, which IMO are higher than any other band's), so maybe that's my problem. Before FII came out, I would think about what I hoped the new album would sound like, and Trial Of Tears is like EXACTLY what I was hoping for. It's my fave track on OIALT, and it just really hit the nail... but still, I likr New Millenium and Hell's Kitchen better. Maybe it's because Hell's Kitchen is so close to my own ideas... And because it was brought up here, I'll say that I really like JLMB, except the whole Kurt Kobain crap (I don't give a rat's African shlong about him now), and the drums just don't do enough after that total kickass section), but the live version DOES rock out a lot more than the studio version. And that one syncopated rhythm just kicks ASS! My ramblings for the day... -maX NP: Drean Theater - Once In A LIVEtime KMFDM - Nihil Rush - Signals And for your own good, DO NOT Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:46:55 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: YNGWIE Message-ID: I just got the new YNGWIE MALMSTEEN "Live in Brazil" today. This cd rocks. Everybody is going off and jammin'. The new singer is great. James could take a few lessons from him. I also got the new Helloween "Hey Lord" single which I'll let everybody know about. And I got the bonus Dr. Sin cd that came with YNGWIE MALMSTEEN "Live in Brazil". You guys will be getting my reviews soon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:23:06 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Dereks HOME PAGE Message-ID: Just make sure you check Derek's new site everybody!!! It's pretty awesome. Hopefully Myung will follow his lead and put up a site with some correct bass tabs:) Later All, Justin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:39:37 -0300 From: "Matija" To: "ytse jam mailinglist" Subject: L.T.E. BEST INSTRUMENTAL cd of the year Message-ID: <000c01be0e96$07343da0$36710ed1@matiasfr> To NuGgEtMaN: You have ears,but don't have a HEART !!!!or brain too!! L.T.E rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:21:57 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: email_address_removed Subject: LTE chat Message-ID: Snippet from the Chat with LTE, when mentioning Satch: > Petrucci: He can play more notes than me :) Anyone wanna comment this one? Was JP kiddin' or....? On Howard Stern show: > Mike: Stern bashed us on the show for about 10 minutes once. What was this? Any more info? :) PLEASE! Any positive-change-of-attitude happened on MTV music awards or it's still garbage? Did DT got some best album award? ;) P.S. Farewell Lisa and come back soon! :) ------ Later, CyberDuke Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail email_address_removed.mk ICQ# 17392722 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:30:07 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 1999 hall of fame inductees are in... Message-ID: Why are you people so shocked that Rush didn't get in. Look at how long it took Pink Floyd to get in? Hell, look at how long it is taking other great oldies bands to get in. the Who didn't get in until the early 90s. And about Billy Joel getting hit by a fucking truck, I want you to think of one thing. Ever hear the song Angry Young Man? Now, tell me this. If you ever heard that song, or some of his other early unreleased shit, why would you say that? Yes, his later works do have a bad taste for me, but Billy was my piano god until I met the likes of prog keyboardists, so back off. At 10:12 AM 11/12/1998 -0800, you wrote: ..in cased you missed it, and i'm terribly disappointed that a certain canadian power trio who just released a triple live cd set (that i still have yet to hear) wasn't among the list. but billy joel was. yipee fucking hooray. i still hope he gets hit by a fucking truck. curtis mayfield got in. that's cool. i believe even the del shannons got in. and no rush. if some of you are so inclined to voice your displeasure, i know there's an address you can write to in order to do such. it's on their webpage. http://rockhall.com whatever. wild koba sig-less at school -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:11:26 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Yes, NDTC Message-ID: The song, oddly enough, is called changes, it is on the 90125 album, the same album that their biggest hit, Owner of a Lonely Heart is from.At 08:41 AM 11/10/1998 -0800, you wrote: Hi all.... Sorry about the NDTC but I feel certain that someone here could help me out with this. I'm just now starting to listen to some Yes material. I heard a song on the radio which I believe to be them. The only thing that I can recall about the song is an emphasis on the word "changes". If you know what song this is please mail me privately. Thanks, Everett email_address_removed -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:17:46 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" To: email_address_removed Subject: Macht/macht - total NDTC! Message-ID: >"Musik ist Macht... >Music is power..." >I have read German for about a year and a half (so far), and I have never >heard of the word "Macht" as "power". To me, "Macht" is the word for >"does" (He/she/it does = er/es/sie macht). "Macht" with a capital M is the noun "power." All nouns are capitalized!! tsk tsk! "macht" with a lowercase m however IS the verb "to do" the way you were just using it. You wouldn't say "music is does" you know :) I never thought about that difference in all these years, hmm...interesting. -Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:31:46 -0800 (PST) From: Yahoo! Clubs To: email_address_removed Subject: You're invited! Message-ID: Hello! You have been invited by PilgrimSAN55 to join the listed Yahoo! Club named "Powerful Metal". To become a member of this club, just go to the Web address below: http://edit.clubs.yahoo.com/config/sjg?.i=powerfulmetal&.a=i& PilgrimSAN55 also sent you a personal message: "If you like Prog/Powerful Metal, please join Yahoo Powerful Metal Club" You need to go to the address above to join the club, but you can take a look at the club by going to: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/powerfulmetal You can learn more about PilgrimSAN55 by looking at the Yahoo! Public Profile: http://profiles.yahoo.com/PilgrimSAN55 A Yahoo! Club is a great way to bring friends, family or anyone you know together using the latest in Web technologies. Club members are able to take advantage of a club's private chat room, message boards and other features. You can also create your own free club focused on any interest, such as hobbies, families and industry associations. Clubs are either listed or unlisted. Listed clubs are available to the public while unlisted clubs are available exclusively to those who receive invitations. If you have no interest in joining this club, there is no need for you to do anything. You will not be enrolled as a member. Thanks, The Yahoo! Clubs team http://clubs.yahoo.com/ P.S. If you need some help on getting started, go to: http://help.yahoo.com/help/clubs/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:23:10 -0500 From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: L.T.E. BEST INSTRUMENTAL cd of the year Message-ID: Matija wrote: > > To NuGgEtMaN: You have ears,but don't have a HEART !!!!or brain too!! > L.T.E rules!!!! Umm...anyone want to clue me in on this one??? I've ALWAYS said LTE Rules! It was explorers club I wasn't fond of 8-P``` Peace out ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:00:16 -0600 From: Kyle McCabe To: Ytsejammers Subject: Derek Message-ID: Just make sure you check Derek's new site everybody!!! Thanks for the tip, but you neglected to include a URL with that post :) -Taur ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:02:57 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: Notebooks, Cd vs Tape Trade Message-ID: I wouldn't mind a CD trade, but tapes are 90% useless to me. They wear out, and I don't have a tape player everywhere I want to listen to music, but I do have a CD player. Heck, I had to think to remember that I even have a tape player in my car. I've done a few tape trades, but they pretty much end up being listened to once and forgotten. And I know I'm not the only one like that. That's why tape trees don't work too well anymore. Notebooks: The best thing is to decide what features you want out of your notebook and find one that has those for the best price. I'm getting a Dell because it's the only notebook with a 15" screen and 8MB of video Ram, and for what I do, that's the most important thing. ~Chris ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4418 **************************