YTSEJAM Digest 4412

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: Portnoy Clinics
 by email_address_removed
  2) An Orgy in SpYtseland ..
 by email_address_removed
  3) Satch's drums
 by CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
  4) Wanted Bootleg "fanclub gig Nighttown"
 by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Tijmstra?=" <r.tijmstra@multiweb.nl>
  5) Invitation to join email_address_removed
 by email_address_removed.se
  6) Sundries among Joe stuff...
 by "Thomas Forcier" <email_address_removed>
  7) Magna Carta sampler CD...Explorer's radio mix?
 by email_address_removed
  8) Re: DTIFC.
 by Edward Polzin <email_address_removed>
  9) CD COVER
 by Jordi Gen? Mateu <"email_address_removed.ve"@telcel.net.ve>
 10) *etallica Scans
 by "Scott Sturdivant" <email_address_removed>
 11) Syrinx Is DA MAN!
 by Bruce Duesterhoeft <email_address_removed>
 12) OiaL and my broken computer
 by Amanda Rosemblum <email_address_removed>
 13) NDTC, but what the hell-
 by Brien Denis O <email_address_removed>
 14) trash from the other side of the street
 by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
 15) need a hand/URL
 by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
 16) New LV samples !!!
 by "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
 17) VOLCANOES!  VOLCANOES,  I  SAY!!!
 by "Max Verran" <email_address_removed>

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:36:21 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Portnoy Clinics
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


><   Hello (and a special tip of the hat to everyone I met last spring at the
Chicago show)-


	I'm fixing to go to a drum clinic by Mr. Portnoy in a few weeks. I went to
UACM to confirm the date and get the name of the store it was at, but UACM did
not have the date I was looking for. Can anyone tell me if there is a clinic
planned for Nov. 22 in Grand Rapids, Mi. (if I remeber correctly it was at RIT
Drums). Thanks-

	Matt Stanich   ><

He posted this on AOL:

Subject: Mike Portnoy November Clinics
Date: Mon, Nov 9, 1998 01:14 EST
]From: <A HREF="aol://3548:Portnoy420">Portnoy420</A>
Message-id: <email_address_removed>

Just a reminder......


  MIKE PORTNOY DRUM CLINICS

  Mon  November 9    Daddy's (716-835-0516)         Buffalo, NY
  Tue  November 10   Daddy's (315-454-9625)         Syracuse, NY
  Wed  November 11   Daddy's (518-452-9431)         Albany, NY
  Thu  November 12   CA House (740-695-5929)        St. Clairsville, OH
  Tue  November 17   Midwest Music (316-265-3070)   Wichita, KS
  Wed  November 18   Mozingo Music (314-227-5722)   Ellisville, MO
  Thu  November 19   Frontier Music (580-355-4231)  Lawton, OK
  Sat  November 21   Rupps Drums (303-756-5777)     Denver, CO

 
  _______________________________________________________
  Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
  http://www.dreamtheater.net/    


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:50:21 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: An Orgy in SpYtseland ..
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>




>In the last spite-filled orgy that is Ytsemania:
>the Ice Queen penned:
>><snip> Or should that be finger somewhere else?
>
>Pulled?

Na hahahahahahaha na really hahahahaha ;-)

I was referring to the dumped jammer's girlfriend, wasn't she the one who was
jerking off to DT originally?

The 'finger somewhere else comment' was about that.  As was the comment
'perhaps she wanted someone else to do it for her instead of having to do it
herself' meaning perhaps that was WHY she dumped him in the first place.

Looks like my jokes go way over your heads guys
 ;-)  <--  note smiley face here and read it!

Besides which, Korg isn't gay and male is he?  ;-}

Ice Queen






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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:32:37 +0100
From: CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Satch's drums
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.mk>


> From: David Dixon <email_address_removed>
>
> Jeff can rip it up, but he NEVER does, except in the last
> two measures of songs (and these aren't on ANY of the recordings!), 

I'm starting to doubt in this guy considering Satch music! :) And I
don't know him from other place.

> but he's usually just way too restrained for Satch's music.  

Maybe Satch tells them: "Guys, I know you're all great musicians, but I
AM THE STAR HERE, so you better calm down and lemme show the world how
good I am on this geetar!" ;)

> Crystal Planet would be a great album, but the
> drumming on it is really dry, 

That's exactly what I hate in CP. Too anoing rhtyhm section. While Satch
might do an awesome guitar job, after 3 minutes you can't stand that
bum-bap, bum-bap drum anymore! It doesn't even goes bum-bap,
bum-bum-bap! :)

It's so simple that it almost looks like they want it to sound that
simlpe! Which I found weird. 

> I'm used to MP 

Not necesarilly MP kinda drumming but anymore, "more feel" as someone
said.

> I love Mangini, Deen Castronovo, and all of
> Steve Vai's other drummers 

Does Mangini plays also on the studio Fire Garden album? I'm lazy to go
get the CD myself! ;)
I know Greg plays on Cryin' Machine!
But I don'rt think he plays on other Vai albums.

> and wish Joe would get a drummer that suited
> his style (NO MORE EXCLUSIVE HI-HAT/SNARE/KICK).
> Bissonnette did a much better job on "Time Machine"'s live disc...

Amen! ;) His job on "Satch Boogie" is AWESOME!!

> From: email_address_removed
>
> seems that the mighty Metallica debate has reared its 
> ugly head again.

Woohoo! "Living Colour" fan? ;) Yeah!

> From: email_address_removed
>
> Pssssst, This is a secret. Spread this around to everyone except 
> for John Glenn:
> When John Glenn returns from space, everybody dress in ape 
> suits... pass it on. 

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa!
This is hillarious! :)))
Gotta love human's fantasy! ;)
---------------- 
Later, CyberDuke

Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/
E-mail    email_address_removed.mk
ICQ#      17392722



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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:26:33 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Tijmstra?=" <r.tijmstra@multiweb.nl>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Wanted Bootleg "fanclub gig Nighttown"
Message-ID: <000701be0c30$0428d160$a4f272c3@workstation>


Can somebody help me to find a bootleg CD of the fanclub gig in Nighttown
(the Netherlands)
for example: Nighttown Nostalgia, the complete fanclub gig (Bootleg from
Japan)

please E-mail: r.tijmstra@multiweb.nl



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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:52:33 -0800 (PST)
From: email_address_removed.se
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Invitation to join email_address_removed
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hello,

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Uriah Heep, Kiss, and 80’s heavy metal bands such as Helloween, Iron Maiden,
Judas Priest and Scorpions. Vivid existed between 1982 and 1989, and is now
planning a reunion in the summer of 1999, ten years after the split up. They’ve
also got plans about doing a CD, a sort of Best of, containing the best songs
from their career.

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If you do not wish to join this list, please ignore this message.


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List Owner

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:51:54 -0500
From: "Thomas Forcier" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Sundries among Joe stuff...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hello,

>I won (!!!!!) an autographed version of 5YiaL (and OiaL)
>through the contest on www.onceinalivetime.com,
>BUT as I live in Norway I can't play this video on my videoplayer!!!

This is the greatest irony I have ever seen on this list. Too damn funny.
Also, Juli wrote:

>First and foremost I would like to apologize for my post about Satch.

This is the kind of post that is all too rare and ever so much appreciated.
Humility is a trait I wish I could develop. Oh, I guess I should say I'm
sorry for misquoting from Korg. Due credit goes to the God of all that is
bovine. Like he ever had an original thought... :P
	Form the Stickmaster:
>Guys like for instance Mike Mangini HAVE to show off...

I have to take issue with this. Mangini is a terrific drummer, but he has
shown excellent restraint on some work, namely the three songs he did on
Extreme's Punchline disc.

>It's just that Joe plays the kinda music that doesn't fit
>show-off drumming.... 

I'll agree that Joe's studio work does require a more restrained drummer in
most situations (there are exceptions like War, Slow Down Blues, and Mighty
Turtle Head). But anyone who has seen Joe live with Jonathon Mover (or
Gregg Bissonette, for that matter), or even heard it, knows that there is
plenty of room to go off in a live environment if Joe's at the helm. Take a
good listen to Memories on the Dreaming #11 disc...

>Mangini is great on "Fire Garden"..

No question, you're dead on here.

>I believe it was Mover/Wimbish(sp?) that got pissed off at 
>Satch, mainly because he flushed 200.000$ work down the drain in the 
>pre-Extremist time:

For the last time: Simon Phillips and Doug Wimbish recorded material with
Joe for the Extremist album (along with Phil Ashley). Joe decided that he
wanted to audition a new rhythm section and did so, selecting the
Bissonette brothers, with whom he completed recording for the Extremist
album. Joe did not flush ANY work down the drain: songs finished with
Wimbish and Phillips ARE ON THE EXTREMIST. Other material was composed, but
all became the remaining tracks on the album (except the tracks that ended
up on Time Machine). I will not claim to be omniscient, but when it comes
to Satch trivia, I am the keymaster. (Yeah, so I didn't know Dweller on a
Threshold, so sue me...)

Stodgers



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Date: 11/9/1998 20:46
From: email_address_removed
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Magna Carta sampler CD...Explorer's radio mix?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



--==pw_boundary==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hey everyone,

Yeah, Magna Carta has a sampler CD (Their first) with 
tracks from;
Black Light Syndrome
LTE
Attention Deficit
Shadow Gallery
Magellan
Royal Hunt
Cairo "Angels+Rage"-Japanese radio edit
EXPLORER'S CLUB "IMPACT 3"
 They're calling that last one a "radio hack mix"

This CD also contains previews of new Tempest, Dali's 
Dilemma, and Ice Age.

I wasn't sure if anyone had heard about this, so I wanted 
to spread the word.

 I e-mailed them asking about it, and they sent me all the 
info.

Take care,
-Dave

--==pw_boundary==--


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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:08:55 -0600
From: Edward Polzin <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: DTIFC.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


figures, i just sent mine to england this afternoon.  :)

Syrinx wrote:

> Hello, all.
>
>     I just wanted to let EVERYONE know that the horrors of trying to send
> money over to England to get in the DTIFC is now over.  Effective as of
> today, here is the address for North America:
>
>     The Dream Theater International Fan Club
>     PO Box 52704
>     Philadelphia, Pa 19115
>
>     If you have any questions, please email email_address_removed
>
>  - mike.
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 03:28:20 -0400
From: Jordi Gen? Mateu <"email_address_removed.ve"@telcel.net.ve>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: CD COVER
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Anyone can tell me the URL where can i found the cover of Once in a 
Livetime but in the a Big size!!

 THANKZ
 JoRdI

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:21:46 -0500
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: *etallica Scans
Message-ID: <002801be0c61$a2b9d000$message_id_removed>


I am not discussing the taboo topic, just wondering if anyone might have, or
know of a place to get the scans for the art work of Donnington, a KTS
production.  On KTS's page, they only have the front of the liner, I was
wondering if maybe someone could please send me a scan of the tray, and
perhaps I can send them something in return....we'll work something out!
Thanks a lot!

Scott.



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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:25:51 -0500
From: Bruce Duesterhoeft <email_address_removed>
To: To Ytse Or Not To Yste <email_address_removed>
Subject: Syrinx Is DA MAN!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Some Dude Called Syrinx Wrote:

> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:15:46 -0500
> From: "Syrinx" <email_address_removed>
> To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <email_address_removed>
> Subject: DTIFC.
> Message-ID: <003301be0c1d$bd51eb80$c1c9cdcf@ms116920>
>
> Hello, all.
>
>     I just wanted to let EVERYONE know that the horrors of trying to send
> money over to England to get in the DTIFC is now over.  Effective as of
> today, here is the address for North America:
>
>     The Dream Theater International Fan Club
>     PO Box 52704
>     Philadelphia, Pa 19115
>
>     If you have any questions, please email email_address_removed
>
>  - mike.
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Please see title.

Duester

PS Unfortunately I've already sent that check across the AO.


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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:38:43 -0800
From: Amanda Rosemblum <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: OiaL and my broken computer
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hey jammers,

    This truly sucks ass.  My computer died and Im gonna lose all my hard drive most likely.  Anyway, I just wanted to tell the world that Partha is my stern but groovy master.  Getting OiaL in the mail today just made what would have ordinarily have been a suck ass week from hell.  If anyone ever has any doubts as to why rockers get massive amounts of
women, all that person needs to do is listen to this album.  I was in pure ecstast listening to the first CD, which is as far as Ive gotten so far.  I do have to say, however, that James was really reachng for some of the high notes, especially on Voices.  Other than that, OiaL is truly orgasmic. =)

Amanda


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:24:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Brien Denis O <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: NDTC, but what the hell-
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I'm listening to 99.3 out of Vancouver, Canada, and they are doing a show
called 'House of Hair'.  Dee Snyder of Twisted Sister is the host.  Does
anyone else get this show, as I think it is syndicated?  I just love
hearing some of the metal and glam rock that otherwise shares a place
beside disco in the realm of music.  After not hearing it for years, Bon
Jovi sounds pretty good!  Not to mention Y&T, Cinderella, White Lion,
'Maiden, etc.......
Door's open.  Flame away, if you will.

D-mon


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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:24:04 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: trash from the other side of the street
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


"dream theater anti corporate enterprise club"? hmmm, DTACEC.....almost 
like Ptacek......maybe we should have chris for prez of that gang, after 
all, he's legal now, what with his 21st b-day passing by yesterday.....

> "Living Colour" fan? ;) Yeah!
unless you're a european referring to the show that created the monster 
that is Jim Carrey (and I mean that in a good way, cuz the truman show 
is my #1 movie of the year), lemme just say i'm gonna be spending the 
night of saturday, the 21st of november in a club called Alvin's, which 
is about a block from my apartment, which also happens to be hosting one 
mr. Corey Glover that night

:)
obligatory satriani commentary
and satch, what can i say about satch? i might go and see him tomorrow, 
that's all i have to say about that

partha



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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:13:54 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: need a hand/URL
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


just deleted a whole buncha jams

need the URL for that site with the cool Savatage feature story again

tell me, i need to know, it might be beneficial for you

you know, in that way that you feel really good when you can help out 
one of your fellow human beings kind of way?

(hey, i am a Poor Indian Graduate Student (you do the acronymizing), i 
ain't got the cash to be shelling out for minor favors like this)

partha

np: MOE.   tin cans and car tires
comment: goddamn this is good stuff


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:31:52 +0100
From: "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
To: "ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: New LV samples !!!
Message-ID: <01be0c8c$f2efa920$c44cebc2@default>


Hi there !!

On the official Dutch Lemur Voice site are two MP3 samples from NEW songs
!!! just check out our page and download them and tell us what you think,
also don't forget to fill in the guestbook !!!

The URL:

http://www.cobweb.nl/mcoenen/

Greetz,

Marcel Coenen
Guitarist Lemur Voice
mcoenen@cobweb.nl
ICQ: 22168027



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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:37:55 PST
From: "Max Verran" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: VOLCANOES!  VOLCANOES,  I  SAY!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



   Stickmaster D. snarled:

>>>Don't get me wrong, I'm a drummer myself... It's just that Joe plays 
the
kinda music that doesn't fit show-off drumming.... Steve Vai's musicdoes
tho... Mangini is great on "Fire Garden"<<<

Drummer here. Maybe that's why I don't really listen 2 Satch, but when I 
want 2 hear guitar stuff like that, I DO listen to Steve Vai, or I'll 
put in Tangerine Dream 220 Volt Live. Except with TD, ALL the music is 
great...



   The Ytse Progtologist erupted:

>(But you should ask yourself, am I male or female?)

>>>Why should he?   Or is this a question that has been haunting you?
If so, go back about 1000 jams, when the topic was HOT!<<<


Man, I missed the jam right around then.

I don't see why the DREAM THEATER mailing list has 2 quibble over these 
things. Do we really care? I was just annoyed slightly at this post.


But I suppose now it's my turn. I'm going to subscribe under the names 
"Lady Jane" and "Sister Mary", and I'll pretend to be lesbian lovers, 
and I'll talk really dirty to everyone until they get thrown off the 
list.

Sister Mary barks and whines like a dog in heat: "Voodoo penis, Jane's 
crotch!"


Or I'll just sub. as some moron who out of nowhere squeals like Lady 
Jane her 4th time around: "I think God is a cat. What do you think?"


But maybe I'm being a jerk again. Maybe I should lighten up...

NAH!!!



   Arbotics.com exploded in flatulous rage:

>>.Okay, maybe I missed it somewhere in the 'Jam, so please don't flame 
me for this.


Flame flame... me too.



   Paul Weiss cried out in vain at the loss of his brother:


>>>Juli praised the efforts of a Wisconsin area station
Damn you all! They never do anything like that on any radio station inmy
corner of the country. But I don't really want to move to the midwest.
Hmmm, dilemma....<<<

At least they play Ramms+ein here...


Actually I
believe most are all being a little sarcastic, but I'm sure there (not
they're, damn homonyms*) are some who have to belittle others in orderto
be happy with themselves. Ah, well, such is the world as we make it.P
* copyright Korgx3

But I do think Korg gets it right ;)



   Syrinx ejacul- uh, yelled?

    >>>I just wanted to let EVERYONE know that the horrors of trying to 
send
money over to England to get in the DTIFC is now over.  Effective as of
today, here is the address for North America:
    The Dream Theater International Fan Club
    PO Box 52704
    Philadelphia, Pa 19115
    If you have any questions, please email email_address_removed - 
mike.<<<


Um, is this true? Verifier! Mike Portnoy?... Mark Bredius?


Maybe I just don't know who Syrinx is...



   Then some stupid moron pleads of the jam:

Hey guys, did you get my post on what I thought of Hear In The Now 
Frontier? I CANNOT fing it in the jam (but my others made it), and I got 
a response to it. But I looked again, and it isn't there. Hmmm...



Oh well, maX shuts up for a few hours...


-maX (REALLY?!)



NP: Metallica - ...And Justice For All
    Tangerine Dream - 220 Volt Live
    KMFDM - Money

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