YTSEJAM Digest 4387 Today's Topics: 1) Rare cd's for sale by Ytse Jammer 2) Marillion/Ytsejam banner by Mark Bredius 3) Favorite Fates Warning Album Poll... by Michael Kizer 4) about my prog show (i'm stupid) by Phillip 5) DTC and NDTC, get over it by "Damond Fibraio" 6) out of commission on irc by Damon Fibraio 7) not on irc by Damon Fibraio 8) not on irc by Damon Fibraio 9) really confused now by Damon Fibraio 10) Re: Phish by "Christopher Files" 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4386 by email_address_removed 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4386 by email_address_removed 13) Thanks & explanations by email_address_removed 14) 'buncha crap! by "Max Verran" 15) 'buncha crap! by "Max Verran" 16) UaGM on OiaLT? by Joe DeAngelo 17) Cynic and BLind Guardian by Luke Bateup 18) The Progressive Era by Jaime Chevalier 19) OAN Strikes Again (Angra) !! by "Metzger, Mark" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ytse Jammer To: email_address_removed Subject: Rare cd's for sale Message-ID: Following original rare cd's for sale: Manowar - Death To False Metal! $40 Dream Theater - Consciously Unreal (2cd) $30 Dream Theater - The Dance Of Eternity (2cd) $30 Prism releases: Dream Theater - When Dream And Today Unite $50 Dream Theater - Antiquities $40 Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory $40 Dream Theater - Precious Things $30 Dream Theater - The Darkest Of Winters $30 E-mail me if you're interested. email_address_removed _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:33:35 +0100 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: Marillion/Ytsejam banner Message-ID: "MentalHunk" asked : > 2) In the 5YiaL Video, what song are they playing with Steve Hogarth > and Steve Rothery of Marillion ? I don't have much of their music.... That would be "Easter" off their brilliant album "Seasons End", which features one of the most perfect instrumental breaks ever (all IMO of course)... Make sure you check out their new album, Radiat10n... It's very different from all of their other stuff, but it's great. :) For more information, check out Marillion Online at : http://www.marillion.co.uk/ Also take a peek at my Radiat10n page at : http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/radiation/ ----- CyberDuke wrote : >>> exposed on UACM with posibility to vote for 1! :) And the winner >>> will be used on ALL DT realted sites as link for Ytsejam >>> or other Ytsejam related links! >> >> how are you gonna force everyone to use that image? :) > > Like HELLOOOOOO!!??! Did I mentioned voting or not? I thought this went without saying, but please don't volunteer me for things without checking with me first. Collecting images from people, putting them online and having everyone vote on them will take up heaps of time... Between UACM and the newsletter, I don't exactly have a lot of spare time left. Especially with the amount of email I currently receive, due to the new releases. Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: email_address_removed *** Join the FREE weekly Dream Theater newsletter ! *** http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/uc/ Website Tips & Tools ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:04:49 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: "email_address_removed (Parallels List)" , Subject: Favorite Fates Warning Album Poll... Message-ID: So far, 308 votes... APSoG is in the lead, followed closely by Parallels... Night on Brocken is in last place with ZERO votes... The poll will be closing on 11/15/98, so go cast your vote (somebody at least should give NoB ONE vote... :-) The Poll: http://www.ivorygate.com/fw -- ~Michael Kizer "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:04:21 +0000 From: Phillip To: email_address_removed Subject: about my prog show (i'm stupid) Message-ID: oops, I forgot to put the station that i'm doing the prog show on. It's going to be at 5PM on Sunday, November 1 on 91.1 KLSU in Baton Rouge. It'll be cool. later Phillip Playing: Faith No More "King for a day..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:34:18 -0500 From: "Damond Fibraio" To: Subject: DTC and NDTC, get over it Message-ID: <002201be052f$5d1dfa00$message_id_removed> OK, guys, this had better work. This is the guy who used to post nonstop until he got a job. Now, I have my c Hey, guys. Recognize who it is yet? Anyway, it has been a while. Got a job, and changed ISP's. Anybody who has access to a cable modem, get it. It is fast and it rocks. Unfortunately, I can't get it to work with Eudora Pro correctly and have to use Outlook Express. Got my Once in a Livetime CD and I like it except for a few minor problems. James has some struggling problems in some songs, but I guess it is from the length of the show. It sounds to me like those older songs that he used to belt out during the Images and Word tour are getting a little more difficult for him, reminiscent ot he Geddy Lee syndrome, maybe? Mike's drums sound strange to me. I am used to his drums being much more melodic. Aolmost like Mike is playing a musical instrument. Toms can be tuned to notes as well as other instruments and I don't hear this so much, especially during his solo. I would've loved to hear the crowd on parts where the crowd participation is necessary, like the chorus to TTT, Pull me Under and LIe. The little bits of Enter Sandman and Have a cigar rock. Derek is a bit shaky as well, I have heard mistakes, although he kicks ass completely, but mostly his levels sound unstable. His Trinity sounds are really loud, especially his solo sounds. the organ is way too low, and some of the piano and string parts are almost barely audible. maybe it is my EQ. I am not sure I like the keyboard guitar panning split, either. And JP sounds low in some spots and really overbearing in others. It sounds like this could have been mixed better. And there are moments where the bass is burried although I know it is there. I love the album, but I think the production is a bit sloppy in parts. Another though, I know the stock Trinity piano is crappy, where does Derek pull his piano sound from? And another thing, I know he uses the Roland VK7 for his organ, but does he use a leslie cabinet or a simulator? Now for the totally unrelated stuff. Bought Age of Impact finally and it rocks, but I need to listen to more of it. I agree that the production is flaky. Give me those tapes, I will mix them next time. The ELP tribute sounds like a must-hjave, but I got my hopes up with the Rush tribute and was a bit disappointed. I fear the same for ELP. Those songs are incredibly difficult, and even more importantly, I hope that nobody is going to try to use shitty organ sounds in place of the real thing. Even the Moog sounds need to be taken care of. If you are going to do ELP, please for God's sake, don't kill us with wimpy DX7 sounds. :) The Subdivissions solo on A Show of Hands still makes me cringe and that was the original band doing it. Now, onto the stupid shit. Anybody know what it takes to get a real audio server going? I think I want to do one, and since I have the cable modem, I want to know what else I need? A friend of mine and I want to revive our old college radio show days, and the internet hasn't been regulated, yet. I want to make it a combination comedy and underground music show which will feature a lot of prog, and some alternative underground music from popular bands but the lesser played songs, maybe some other shit, bbut definitely stuff that radio hasn't beaten to death yet. I want a web site with a domain like http://www.nhbradio.com, the NHB standing for No Holds barred. All you gurus, especially Mosh, can you email me privately with what I need and how much it will cost? The ytseradio crew that got their thing set up may be able to help me here. Bear in mind, this is not a competitor to ytseradio, but my own project entirely. I will endorse ytseradio all the way. And finally, if anybody is on a service like Comcast at home, or a Eudora Pro 3.0.5, can you help me get the fucking program configured to work right? I can download all my mail, but can't send mail, or at least send mail to mailing lists and get responses. Thanks guys. DT rocks. By the way, what is the set list for the video? I want to buy it, am waiting for my Zenith talking VCR to come in, but I can't stand it that much. And finally, has Platypus been released, and what do I need to do again to get on the DTIFC? OK, I am done now. Really. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:16:45 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: out of commission on irc Message-ID: For those of you who may wonder why you never see Damon Fibraio on IRC, it is for a number of reason, the most pressing right now is that I don't have access to an irc client that will work with speech, yet. If anybody needs to contact me for any reason, try email at email_address_removed. -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:20:32 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: not on irc Message-ID: If anybody has been looking for me on IRC, you should know that I have changed service providers to a cable modem which doesn't support dial ins to a shell account. Therefore, I am totally in Windows 95 now and going mad trying to make everything work properly. MIRC doesn't work with my access software. If you need to reach me, try emailing email_address_removed -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:18:47 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: not on irc Message-ID: Anybody who has been looking for me on IRC lately should know that I have changed internet providers and lost access to my old iRC software which resided on the isp's server, otherwise known as the shell account. I am in a purely Windows envirnment now and ripping my hair out. Mirc doesn't work with speech as I have rudely discovered, and I am looking for alternatives. If you need to reach me, try emailing email_address_removed. -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:36:45 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: really confused now Message-ID: Sorry, didn't mean to send that fifteen times. Really wondering why Eudora is being flaky. Did I mention that I hated Windows? -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:07:06 -0500 From: "Christopher Files" To: Subject: Re: Phish Message-ID: <003901be054d$1797d640$01ca7ad1@artoo-detoo> Matt wrote: >ANd to whoever said Phish is prog....hate to disagree with you, but they are >absolutely NOT PROG. There is nothing progressive about them, unless you >consider The Greatful Dead progressive. To me, they are boring. Their jams >are pathetic, simply because they go on for a half hour on the same >chord/chord >progression while their audience gets stoned. > >Matt You can disagree, it's okay. I can even see your point about going on and on, because in some of their songs the jams just seem to endlessly ramble. You are making a broad generalization, however, a mistake that I will guess comes from the fact that you really haven't heard that much of their music. What you have heard may bland, but Phish do have some really great prog stuff (prog being a word that covers more than 'prog metal', a word that's actually really hard to define since it covers stuff that ranges from fusion to metal and beyond). And, as musicians, they're really great (far more interesting, in my opinion, than the dead, which fit better with folk than with rock, sometimes); they keyboardist and guitarist are fantastic, and the drummer and bassist are quite solid. Their music isn't your thing, I can tell, and I would certainly not suggest you "give them another shot". I mean, I myself am not even close to being a real fan: some of the jams that Phish-heads love are just boring as hell to me, and I lose interest--in great part due to the stuff you were talking about. But I do have two mixes that I made (about 70 minutes each) of really great Phish music, and a great deal of it is what many would call progressive. I agree with another Chris who wrote: >i like they way phish go off in tangents, a style i've grown to love = >since LTE's 3 Minute Warning. no, i'm not saying this makes them = >progressive in the same way as DT, but they do embody a fusion-like = >style at times, and fusion bands are just as complex as any other. = >listen to some their instrumental parts, pretty cool. All just IMO, of course. Chris F ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:58:16 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4386 Message-ID: there is one mistake i made : never use puzzle glue when you try to put " polish " on a pic you printed out on the computer. i might as well spend the 10 bucks to buy the laminating stuff. the few pics i got from DT turned out blurry after i attacked them with glue. i think my hand has a mind of its own. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:02:04 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4386 Message-ID: oh yeah....im from alabama. i think im the only DT fan in my area of Alabama. you cant call yourself a progressive rock fan if you dont know DT ( in MY opinion ) . ive totally pissed off some of the salesclerks at music stores ranting about why they dont have more dream theater...luckily i found a cooperating store in Florida who had the following : one copy of IAW, two copies of FII,and ACOS. i already had IAW, so i got FII. i think i made a good choice. FII is good. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:24:47 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Thanks & explanations Message-ID: Hey fellow Jammerz, Thanks you everybody for the kind words to me about the job on the live CD & vid.... (Wait 'til the Xmas CD!!!) Here's a response to Mike Bahr, who commented on 2 things he was disappointed by......(he was very pleased with everything else...so don't start flaming him on this!) He seyz: "I, for one, am most pleased. About the only thing I could find wrong, anywhere, and this was really nitpicking, was the complete absence of New Millennium. But ah well, we can't have it all. Especially when we get some of the choice tenderloin grade-A cuts that were presented on the video!!! MP: There actually is a real reason for this because I definately would have included it on either the CD or video.... John M. did not bring his Chapman Stick with him on the European leg that we recorded the Paris & Rotterdam stuff. (That leg was mostly festivals, at which we did not perform "NM", so he didn't bring his Stick....) You do get it as incidental music during one of the tour segments on the video.. << To: email_address_removed Subject: 'buncha crap! Message-ID: Well I think everyone LOVES OiaLT, despite the absence of New Millennium. I DO think of it as the song of the new millennium. Perhaps neXt time they'll include it as well as more WDADU material? And about the CD cases, well mine is great. The same as DM Singles. But I think that not everyone got the same case. It happens quite often that different batches have different case styles. I like the one I got, and I think it'll last a VERY long time. 2nd CD hinges are on the inside of the primary hinges. --- And about my desert Island top 20... I'd have 2 live without JRNY Raised On Radio too! Damn! More 2 come... And Tangerine Dream Rules. DT iS my favorite, but it's close, and there is a LOT of distance between 2 & 3. -maX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:39:10 PST From: "Max Verran" To: email_address_removed Subject: 'buncha crap! Message-ID: ...and I don'y like the fat-ass 2CD cases like Chrinicles and DM 101... these R way better. -maX again ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:49:01 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo To: YTSEJAM Subject: UaGM on OiaLT? Message-ID: > -Greg, who wept like a child when he heard UAGM on OIALT end before the > guitar solo Errrrr....... It's really late, and i'm REALLY tired (so maybe I'm not making any sense), but what what in the Sam-hill are you talking about? Did you mean to say a different song? Last time I checked, Under a Glass Moon isn't on Once In a Livetime. -- - Joe D. email_address_removed Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat ************************************************************************** Just another Sunday morning / Seen my diary on the newsstand Seems we've lost the truth to quicksand / It's a shame no one is praying 'Cause these voices in my heard keep sayin'... / "Love, just don't stare Reveal the word when you're supposed to" - Dream Theater "Voices" (lyrics by John Petrucci) ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:31:42 +1000 From: Luke Bateup To: Ytsejam Subject: Cynic and BLind Guardian Message-ID: Mr. Paul Dyer wrote: > But Cynic are excellent....they just take some perseverence..... I'll second that - *ake *he *ime to appreciate these guys and you won't regret it. 'Focus' has the most technically awesome and generally totally kick arse rhythm section (courtesy of bassist Shawn Malone and drummer Sean Reinert) I've ever heard. The vox may be a stumbling point for most, but once that hurdle has been overcome, the obscurely innovative nature of the music will start to shine through and you'll be hooked. Well, that's what happened with me anyway. > Not to mention Blind Guardian.....:) I'll second that too... "tommorrow, oh take us away, far from home, no one will ever know our name...". Cheers to Jason for the cool BG vid clips too. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:57:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime Chevalier To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: The Progressive Era Message-ID: I was wondering if I could get some recommendations from you guys regarding other progressive bands. Recently I picked up the Power of Omens - Eyes of the Oracle, an Italian progressive band singing in English which really blowed me away. Their album has long songs (one lasting about 20 minutes). I did not heard about it from anyone but from www.arenamusic.com where they have RA samples from the album plus the description as: Imagine Fates Warning's 'Perfect Symmetry' mixed with Dream Theater's 'Images and Words'. Now add Geoff Tate style vocals. Power of Omens delivers this and much more! It is definitely mind blowing. I really want suggestions regarding other progressive bands, particularly I want recommendations about Dali's Dilemma (where to find their albums), Royal Hunt, Cairo, Elegy, King Crimsom, and others. I would like to know what type of style they have and which of their albums would be their best. To give you an idea about my tastes I am really into Fates Warning, Dream Theater, Angra (I have Angel's Cry and Holy Land and they both kick ass, how good is Fireworks?), Stratovarius (One of my collection's treasures), Mercury Rising (I really admire their last album, they kick ass!), Lemur Voice (when's the new one coming out huh?), Explorer Club (ohh boy, a masterpiece that will be acclaimed for many, many, many years), Magellan, Shadow Gallery (I like them more or less), LTE, Rudess/Morgenstein Project, the 70s Kansas, and Rush among others. I did not like Superior-Behind, and I still haven't listen to my CD of Heaven's Cry. I would really appreciate your suggestions so please email me directly to email_address_removed Thanks for all your help and may you have a very mind blowing day. Sincerely/Sinceramente, Jaime Chevalier 60 Salisbury Street, Apt 102 Worcester, MA 01609 USA Tel # (508) 754-4282 ICQ # 431494 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:35:09 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" To: "'(ytsejam)'" Cc: "'oanrec@club-internet.fr'" , Subject: OAN Strikes Again (Angra) !! Message-ID: Well, OAN has hit another bulls-eye !! This time, its a high quality boot of Carolina IV (Angra, actually). Most of this 3CD set is taken from a special show that Angra did under the not too well disguised name of Carolina IV. This show was in central Paris at a small club called Cafe de la Danse. It consisted primarily of cover songs including WFS and there were a bunch of guest artists including Bernd and Michael from Superior !! Kind of like DT's Uncovered show of a few years back. The only thing shitty about this show was they only sold Hieneken beer (in France, no less !!) and that crap gives you the mother of all overhangs. Charlie, has the head stopped hurting yet ???? This was a very unique show and I have to imagine that where Angra are popular, copies of this CD will spread like wildfire !! The Carolina IV show takes the first 1.5 CDs of the 3 CD set. The sound of this show was really decent. As usual, this was an audience digital recording but I have been converted to audience recordings from liking soundboard shows because you seem to lose the live feel of the show from the soundboard. The only issues came during two popular songs (2 Minutes to Midnight and Flight of Icarus) where some obviously psyched members of the audience partook in a sing along. Most of the covers worked pretty well and this show is something very different and great to have as a collector's item. Disk 2 is finished off with excerpts of a CD release party about two months or so ago in Paris (6 or so Angra songs were performed). The sound, as advertised, on this portion was not super but so what. It was advertised that way. The Disk 3 is being made available only to those who have previously ordered CDs from OAN and gives the whole show that Angra did in Bourges last April when Angra played with Vanden Plas and DT. If you qualify, get this third CD for the incremental cost at any effort (hook or crook) !! Angra performed mainly their material at this show (Painkiller as an encore) and gave a top notch view from Angels Cry and Holy Land plus a working version of Speed called Speedy. Andre was amazing. The sound here is the same as on OANs boots of DT and Vanden Plas because it was the same show and the pirate sat in the same place for all three bands. Top notch. The packaging (of the 3CD set at least) is absolutely first rate. And the CDs now come delivered in bubble wrap to prevent the jewel cases from becoming shards of plastic en route. Due to the recent weakening of the dollar, the price for US customers has risen a bit. There are rumblings that if the dollar weakens more that US currency wont be accepted (Francs only to avoid the perception that they are jacking up prices) but IMO that would be a major mistake by OAN. Those in other countries dont understand how inconvenient it is for US citizens to exchange currency and I think that it would hurt sales. If the dollar weakens, it will just cost more bucks !! I am certain if the dollar regains strength, OAN will acknowledge this as well, right ?? Hey, it costs me over $100 for my Clos de Beze now due to the shitty dollar !! That's life in the global economy. Contact OAN at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm Symphony X is heavily rumored to be on the way from OAN !!!! Later, Mark Metzger email_address_removed Uncompensated advocate, BTW ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4387 **************************