YTSEJAM Digest 4377

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: Star Wars in Voices
 by email_address_removed
  2) And he replies opethly
 by Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
  3) OIAL ROX!!!
 by email_address_removed
  4) Re: DTIFC?!?!?
 by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
  5) Re: Star Wars in Voices
 by "TheCowGod" <email_address_removed>
  6) Superior - NDTC
 by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <email_address_removed.br>
  7) Re: Star Wars in Voices
 by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <email_address_removed>
  8) Re: OIAL Preorder & Phish
 by email_address_removed
  9) open reply from Manuel
 by Manuel <email_address_removed.ac.at>
 10) Cynic
 by John Parks <email_address_removed>
 11) Re: College towns, yet again...
 by "CP Parnham" <email_address_removed.ac.uk>
 12) Mike Portnoy's "Supergroup"
 by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <email_address_removed.mx>
 13) ***FREE DT  STICKER and CONTEST****
 by Vaiman <email_address_removed>
 14) Video
 by Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
 15) OiaL in the UK
 by "Charlie Farrell" <email_address_removed>
 16) Re: Cynic
 by Rogerio Brito <email_address_removed.br>
 17) Rush in OiaL
 by Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
 18) Re: KX/GC in St. Louis
 by email_address_removed
 19) OiaL as a DT converter
 by Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
 20) OiaL cover
 by Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
 21) Small rural buttville towns suck.
 by "KorgX3" <email_address_removed>
 22) 5YIALT promo CDs available
 by Jessi <email_address_removed>

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:20:05 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
"Voices?"  If you're talking about the album version, then you must not
realize (yes, I'm American) that Derek wasn't with DT when they recorded
"Voices."  If you're talking about a bootleg, please send me the URL...I'd
love to hear it :o)

[eriC]
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html">THE DRE/\M THE/\TER</A>

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:35:40 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
To: yts <email_address_removed>
Subject: And he replies opethly
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Rogerio Brito reacted:
> Neil Gallop wrote:

> > Dream Theater won't last for ever - who will you support then?

>         Opeth, of course. :-)

Tool :)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:08:55 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: OIAL ROX!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Got OIAL yesterday via FedEx along with the new Fates and Myst Soundtrack
(Great ambient music BTW). I must say, its one of the best live albums I've
ever heard! I wish I could have seen them live. (Gotta pick up that video soon
|-).
Favorite parts:
- Derek's key solo leading up to Lines in the Sand and Lines in the Sand. They
did a great job on this song!
- Petrucci's guitar solo! I knew he was good, but I never new he could shred
anywhere close to Yngwie or Vai!
- Just Let Me Breathe - nothing in particular, this song just rocks live!

Did anyone hear the part where they clipped the mics or something. I cant
remember the exact place (its on the first disk). It was right after they came
in from a quieter part to something like Puppies on Acid. (That may not be the
right part but you know what I mean.) That was the only "strangeness" I heard
on the albums... If anyone knows what's up with this lemme know...

Josh S.

NP: Myst Soundtrack - Telescope Theme

"I belong anywhere but in between...
..I am the Rain King" - Adam Duritz

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:27:30 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <email_address_removed>
Cc: "'email_address_removed'" <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: DTIFC?!?!?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.nl>



  Rob asked :

> I must have been asleep.  I need to renew my subscription...I think.
> What's the deal????  We have to send cash to England?

  Yup... You can find all the information you need in UACM's
  "Official Fanclubs" section. Remember that there are *six*
  official fanclubs and members of *all* these fanclubs will
  receive the 1998 Xmas CD... Not just members of the DTIFC!
  If you would like to check out the websites of the "other"
  fanclubs, click on the little "flags" on UACM's main page.
  Sign up before it's too late... You won't be disappointed!

  Mark Bredius
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  http://www.dreamtheater.net/   E-mail: email_address_removed
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:10:26 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
Message-ID: <001001be02a6$a1be9100$message_id_removed>


>First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
>"Voices?"  If you're talking about the album version, then you must not

i believe he was talking about the OiaL version. moo.


*** END OF TRANSMISSION ***


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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:50:09 -0200
From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <email_address_removed.br>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Superior - NDTC
Message-ID: <009401bdff8f$e7b2c1a0$7e16d3c8@escritorio>



Hi folks...


I don't know if this was already brought to the Jam, but SUPERIOR's Younique
was released here in South America just a few days ago, but the coolest part
is, that it has the same 2 extra tracks as the Jap version, but it costs a
few bucks less (here is about Us$ 17)  :-)

Sometimes we Brazilians feel a bit of envy of americans (cds releases,
shows, etc), but sometimes we can be proud of our land too !! (BTW Paul
Gilbert just did an incredible Clinic here in Sao Paulo a couple of weeks
ago, and he was one of the coolest artists I ever met !)

Gilberto





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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:52:20 -0500
From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


At 09:54 AM 10/28/98, you wrote:
>
>First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
>"Voices?"

Sorry.  I was talking about the OIAL version of Voices.  It starts
somewhere around the 15 second mark.  It only lasts about 10 seconds
though.  I think it's played a bit slower than in the movie.  BTW, I think
it's JP and not DS.


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:10:15 -0600 (CST)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: OIAL Preorder & Phish
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


<<Dammit, I'm pissed.  The mail came today and my copy of OIAL I preordered
from CDNow wasn't in it.  Hmm...
Sorry.  Just had to vent a little.>>

I feel your pain, dude ;-)

I preordered OIAL and 5YiaL as well as LiT and LATM (I had some cash to blow, 
plus a $10 discount.)  alrighty, yesterday I got the two vids (5YiaL ROOOOCKS!
Its an incredible vid, and the studio antics from the band are hilarious!)  In an 
e-mail from CDNow, it said that OiaL was shipped 1st class mail and should arrive
4-6 days, it was shipped on Oct. 26th.  Also, LATM was shipped on the 23rd and 
that has one day left before I wreck havok upon CDNow.  And if I dont get OiaL 
from them by Saturday I will be truly pissed.  So if for any reason you try to log
on to CDNow on Sunday, and it says the server is down, its cause I blew up the
building ;-D


ANd to whoever said Phish is prog....hate to disagree with you, but they are 
absolutely NOT PROG.  There is nothing progressive about them, unless you
consider The Greatful Dead progressive.  To me, they are boring.  Their jams
are pathetic, simply because they go on for a half hour on the same chord/chord
progression while their audience gets stoned.

Matt



=====================================================           
"A daily dose of eMpTyV    "Following our instinct  
will flush your mind        not a trend.  Go against 
right down the drain."      the grain until the end." 
                                                                                       
         -Dream Theater                    -Metallica 
=====================================================



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:13:08 +0100
From: Manuel <email_address_removed.ac.at>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: open reply from Manuel
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.ac.at>


official press release (hehe)
<<Fan enough for you
hm, k, accepted. (oc, fans (if not them who else) have the right to
criticize their favourites, this is good for the fanbase/band interaction
and i think since there are/is a member(s) of DT here on this list this
should work)
<<Or do you want me
<<to buy the forthcoming 78 minute CD of Mike Portnoy farting 12th
<<notes on the shitter after having eaten a Bombay Vindaloo?
tell me the release date, i ll start eating a shitload of beans to be able
to fart to the album (btw, is he going on tour with it as well?)
hey, reading the posts i felt like there was an upcoming tendency against
OIAL which would have been unfair. didnt want to offend anyone. btw, we
could talk about it having some beers as well (better than flaming around,
hey yea Enchant do open for the Beard, go see it, im terribly frustrated
that they cancelld the austrian gig so i wont have the chance to see them.
lucky you!!)
ytsegreetings

NP:Dream Theater OnceinaLIVEtime 
---------
download my ingenious demo at http://www.users.cloud9.net/~textral/dryheat.html


Dryheat  (...in Houston they say that?)


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:29:48 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam dream theater <email_address_removed>
Subject: Cynic
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Do any of you know where I can order the Cynic CD Focus????  I have
searched everywhere but I can't find one store that has it listed.  Is
it out of print or just real hard to find???

Thanks a bunch




==
John






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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:36:13 +0000
From: "CP Parnham" <email_address_removed.ac.uk>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: College towns, yet again...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.ac.uk>


>Subject: Re: college towns....
>
>> this fucking blows....I live in a town where there are 30,000 college
>> students and there are 2 or 3 record stores within miles of here and
>> none of them have videos...and I just called one of them and I asked if
>> they have the new Dream Theater video and their response was, "We don't
>> have it, cuz who would want to buy that???"  WELL FUCK YOU!  Excuse me
>> for not running to all the stores today for the new Phish CD like every
>> other fucking hippie in this town.
>
>Amazing isn't it?  I had to go to three cd stores before I found it, 
>and only one guy in the first two had even heard of dream theater.  
>And I live in a college town also....maybe that is the problem.
>
>Josh
>email_address_removed


I couldn't agree more! I also live in a college town, we even have our own
Rock Society at Uni, AND we have FOUR stores here (All of which are totally
SHIT!), BUT they do have Images And Words on one of those listening posts,
but strangely it's by a band called Dream Theatre...... Never heard of
them, maybe they're good?

Chris Parnham....
P.S. OiaL would be impossible to find here, so I've taken the liberty of
ordering it from a store back home instead...
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directly.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:38:17 -0600
From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <email_address_removed.mx>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Mike Portnoy's "Supergroup"
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.mx>



Hi all!


Does someone know why this project was postponed?

Mike Portnoy (drums)
Jim Matheos of Fates Warning (guitar)
Neal Morse of Spock's Beard (vocals, keyboards)
Pete Trewavas of Marillion (bass)


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:00:17 -0800
From: Vaiman <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: ***FREE DT  STICKER and CONTEST****
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


	


	ATTN all Ytsejamers--


	Do YOU want a DREAM THEATER STICKER AND GET IN ON A DRAWING 
	FOR SOME COOL PRIZES?

	CONTEST ends DECEMBER 17th, 1998.  


	CHECK OUT:  

	http://www.trsgroup.com/music/DT.htm

	
	for all the info!




DRAWING FOR SOME COOL PRIZES DRAWING FOR SOME COOL PRIZES





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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:25:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Video
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028182302.27394A-100000@thunder>


hey.. what town do you live in that doesnt have the video?   Even at PSU
there are loads of places which carry dream theater stuff, including the
videos!  I never had a problem getting live in tokyo or LTE there!

Go to Mikes Movies and Music for thos who live at PSU.  They have
everything.


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:56:12 -0000
From: "Charlie Farrell" <email_address_removed>
To: "Ytsejam list" <email_address_removed>
Subject: OiaL in the UK
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


So OiaL has a worldwide release date of 27th October except the UK - where
we have to wait till the following monday - 2nd Nov. Even the major chains
(HMV, Virgin) seem to have little knowledge and even some of the largest
Virgin Megastores son't even have plans to stock the disk.  I wish I
understood the buying plans of the large stores - its just so fucked up!

If I have to order a major release like this, then I might as well support
my small-time local record store than spend money with Virgin.

Charlie

Work: http://www.servemode.co.uk/
URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie






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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:55:05 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <email_address_removed.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Cynic
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810282149320.16338-100000@jaca>


On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, John Parks wrote:

> Do any of you know where I can order the Cynic CD Focus????  I have
> searched everywhere but I can't find one store that has it listed.  Is
> it out of print or just real hard to find???

	Well, I ordered it from CD Connection. It's on Road Runner, a
fairly big label, which also carries/carried Sepultura.

	BTW, be warned that you may hate the vocals -- the electonic parts
sometimes get on my nerves. But I'm sure that Paul Dyer will reply to this
message, telling that Cynic is the best band ever, etc, etc, etc (ok,
after Opeth and Dream Theater, they may be). :-)


	[]s, Roger...

P.S.: Oh, if you don't know, Cynic is a death metal band. If you have
restrictions about this genre of metal, you may consider spending your
hard-earned bucks on Renaissance's "Ashes Are Burning". What a damn cool
album is this one.
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
  Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
   Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:19:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Rush in OiaL
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028191348.27459A-100000@thunder>


Actually I swear I hear Derek playing Xanadu at one point.. and the
cheering crown might mean that they heard it as well!

Also, If you want to convert someone over to DT, play the bit from
Peruvian skies through PMU.  Ive gotten many favourable responces from
that group of songs!  Personally when I bought the album I was listening
to it on the way home.  And it felt like I was at a concert.  I was
'head banging' to the music, getting excited with each awesome surprise.
Man, to anyone who like DT, GET THIS ALBUM!  It is as perfect as a bootleg
as you are going to get!  It captures the live feel of a DT shoow better
than any album Ive ever heard.


OK.. enough raving.  But it is one freaken good album which proves that DT
is one of the best live acts EVER!


THANK YOU DREAM THEATER!


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:44:45 -0600
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: KX/GC in St. Louis
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hey all, just seeing if anyone's going tot he King's X/Galactic 
Cowboys show at Mississippi nights in St. Louis Nov. 6.  I plan on 
being there.

Dale R. Newberry

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:55:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: OiaL as a DT converter
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028195431.26426B-100000@espy>


Ah fuck it.. play the whole damned thing for them. I find it hard to
concieve of a person who wouldnt like it!
:)

Ponte is a bit under the influence




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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: OiaL cover
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028192303.27459B-100000@thunder>


Did I mention that the album cover and inserts are top notch!  And the
Magesty symbol is evident in several spots :)  


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:35:55 -0700
From: "KorgX3" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Small rural buttville towns suck.
Message-ID: <002d01be0277$e746e760$340d84d0@korgx3>


>I couldn't agree more! I also live in a college town, we even have our own
>Rock Society at Uni, AND we have FOUR stores here (All of which are totally

Man, same thing here.  I went to Hasting's and asked the guy at the counter
and he gave me a puzzled look when I asked him about it, too.  Except his
puzzled look was because several other people were in there yesterday asking
for it.   They DID have like 5 copies or so of OiaL so I was content with
their ability as a music merchandise outlet.  Of course, they had none of
DT's studio albums so all I can say is "What THE?!?"

>Does someone know why this project was postponed?

Because Rena Petrucci keeps popping kids out left and right.  So far I think
DT has enough kids with close enough ages to start a Ytse-Little League
Team.  It's great, ain't it? :)

>Ah fuck it.. play the whole damned thing for them. I find it hard to
>concieve of a person who wouldnt like it!

Already did it. :)  I was at work today and at the end of Take The Time a
guy I work with comes over to my desk... "You're listening to Freebird?!?!?
Nah, this ain't Skynnard, who is this?  That Dream Theater band you're
always listening to?  For some reason I really like Dream Theater now..." :)
I played him some other stuff and he was really digging it.  heheh.  OiaL
rocks my perfect world.

Still walking through the Halls of Medicine... (Damn tonsils)
--
KorgX3


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:48:07 -0800
From: Jessi <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: 5YIALT promo CDs available
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hey, if anyone wants to get a good deal on promo copies of 5YIALT, you
can go to www.ebay.com and do a search for Dream Theater, it's under new
CD promo. Its an auction, but the highest bid so far is $16.99 and there
are five copies available.

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