YTSEJAM Digest 4322 Today's Topics: 1) Re: FYROM/Macedonia by "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" 2) DoE Confusion by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK 3) Instructional videos by email_address_removed 4) Re: MACEDONIA!!!!!!! Serious NDTC by Matej Grginic 5) new DT font... by Manuel 6) trivia on cdnow by "Trevor W. Hoit" 7) Re: DoE Confusion by Syrinx 8) Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH by "Michael Velders" 9) Yngwie sucks by "Christopher Ptacek" 10) macewhat? :) by "(just) Asmodel" 11) fonts by Ernesto Schnack 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4320 by Cyberwolf 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317 by "Metzger, Mark" 14) ytseradio and Once in a Livetime... by "Michael Patrick" 15) Re: Henry Rollins/KevMo by Al Balkiewicz 16) Re: Henry Rollins by "W. Tugmutton" 17) KevMo... by "Jan-Michael" 18) Re: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime... by Lisa Marie 19) RE: DT Cover Art by Paul Drapeau 20) RE: DT Cover Art by Paul Drapeau 21) KevMo chat transcript by Mark Bredius ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:41:58 +1100 (EDT) From: "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: FYROM/Macedonia Message-ID: Correct: Macedonia is a part of Greece, though FYROM is not. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:56 +0100 From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK To: email_address_removed Subject: DoE Confusion Message-ID: <80256696.00281AF5.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk> Could somebody clear up some confusion I'm having over the various versions of the Dance of Eternity Boot CD. The one I've recently acquired is a single CD recording (good quality) of a 93 show at the Impax club, Buffalo. It has Eve on it (no samples, Doh) and other standard I&W, WDADU fare on it. I recently saw a jammer posting about ACOS(orig version) being on a DoE cd he had. WHATS GOING ON..........?????? Steve NP - Galactic Cowboys At The End of the Day ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:12:18 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Instructional videos Message-ID: I've just become aware that Kiko from Angra and Jason Becker at one time or another had put out instructional videos. If anyone knows where I can buy these or even possibly trade if buying isn't possible, please email me. I am also trying to track down a George Lynch instructional from JVC called "Open Jam with George Lynch" if you can help with that also. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:25:53 +0300 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: MACEDONIA!!!!!!! Serious NDTC Message-ID: As someone from Slovenia (yes it used to be a part of YU too) I have to back up Dushko. Why the f**k won`t greeks just give it a rest. It`s rediculous. And the way they tagged Macedonia with the name Former Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia is just the biggest load of crap! I generally like greeks, but they`r behaving like jerks when it comes to Macedonia. How the hell would you like to be called Former Part Of Alexander The Macedonian`s Empire? (and yeah! he was macedonian like dushko and NOT from the area called Macedonia in Greece) `Nuff of politics for today :) Dushko, the CD will be in the mail tomorrow. Sorry it took so long, but I just got home from Paris. Matej Grginic email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:14:44 +0200 From: Manuel To: email_address_removed Subject: new DT font... Message-ID: god, this is even uglier than Star Trek's Next Generation font.... next they are going to give us the old Wing Commander font, buaah! but who cares? i dont.... --------- download my ingenious demo at http://www.users.cloud9.net/~textral/dryheat.html Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:22:52 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Barflies'" , "'Ytsejam'" , Subject: trivia on cdnow Message-ID: Hey everyone, Go play the trivia game on http://www.cdnow.com I won $50 credit! Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK Subject: Re: DoE Confusion Message-ID: > WHATS GOING ON..........?????? This is a pretty intersting answer. :) Keep in mind that we're talking about 2 SEPERATE boots. There's one, simply called "Dance Of Eternity," which is the show in Buffalo (same show as "Dream Out Loud" from Kiss The Stone, I believe). The other is called "THE Dance Of Eternity," which is the infamous 3/5/93 show w/ ACOS and Eve (w/ Samples). Make any sence now? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 05:31:51 PDT From: "Michael Velders" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH Message-ID: >From: Damon Fibraio >Subject: Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH Does anyone know Mike's SN? I hear people talk about him being on all the time and I'm really dying to talk to him. I'm a drummer and his playing really inspires me. It would just be really cool to talk to him. Does anyone know his AOL screen name or just email address? >Well, look at that. We chased him away. Good going, guys. That's the way >to go. Now he really doesn't like us. :) At least Mike is still around. >Right? Mike? Are you there? Are you going to leave us too? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:02:35 -0500 From: "Christopher Ptacek" To: Subject: Yngwie sucks Message-ID: <001601bdf1f2$c1cd9fa0$message_id_removed> Yeah, Steve Vai has no emotion. Yngwie sucks. And Portnoy shouldn't use two bass drums. Sherinian doesn't need his TriAxis and Trinity. Myung should play with a pick, and LaBrie should sing death metal. You guys are on crack. When you make emotion content objective, then maybe you could argue relevantly about its existence in certain players' sounds. Until then, your perspective is no more valuable than your opinion that Swedish Fish are good until you've had your 43rd fish, at which point you want to puke up a large solid red chewy lump. Who can tell me that Yngwie doesn't have feel on his first two albums? Or Vai on everything he ever did? Well, any of you can. But it doesn't mean anything to me. I've been playing guitar for half of my life, and I'm confident in my ability to make up my own mind about music tastes. Get a grip, yall. - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:59:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "(just) Asmodel" To: email_address_removed Subject: macewhat? :) Message-ID: Heya Dushko, I happen to know some things about Balkan history coz i'm fed up with this stuff..being a GREEK and all (dont look at the email addy). So i am sure of what i post here.I agree its a political matter only and I have nothing against ppl who live in FYROM.You say Greeks arent serious,what about the "macedonians" then who claimed northern Greece is theirs and sooner or later they'll even get Salonica etc..They wanted to put all this in their constitution.Isnt it nonsense too? Its funny how our politicians (both greek and yours) say only what we want to hear..and we keep voting You havent always been called Macedonia,Tito first used that name (at least officialy) many a decade ago but greek politicians were stupid enough not to complain (being busy with civil wars and sending communists to deserted islands).Now if I start using some name (more like "stealing" or borrowing it) and after a looong time someone complains (doesnt matter if he's wrong or right),do you think its a good excuse to say "Yes,but I've used this name for a long time now,its mine"..Ask any lawyer and you'll see who's right. I can also ASSURE you,there are NO "Macedonians" in northern Greece, I have been there so many times,i have friends who study in all these northern cities,i have relatives living there as well.There are Greeks,muslims,a few bulgarians maybe or ppl coming from southern Albania.And i doubt any of these minorities is being supressed (as the Turks claim! funny how THEY have killed many a million ppl from Kurdistan..its money thats talking here..german/american investments in Turkey).If you find any "Macedonians" there let me know :) I'd like to meet them (i'm serious). You may have an american embassy there,so what? You're lucky enough to be in the only ex-yugoslavian normal country..watch croatia and serbia,they keep killing each ther..montenegro and slovenia are somewhat ok too.Wouldnt the americans need a base in the Balcans? :) Since we closed their greek bases a long time ago? Think man.. Anyway,I dont believe there are many ppl who care about this stuff, no matter what I say,u'll keep using that Macedonia name and its fine to me,I'm not gonna save the country..if we're to live in peace you can use any name you like :) We'd rather stop here and talk about DT only eh? We're not going to agree anyway. ps your mom has a kewl job btw. pss about ticketmasters...you ppl act like suckers sometime.. if you think the prices are too high,then dont go to the damn gig! if DT were to split (*cross my fingers!*) and i had the last chance to see their last gig and the ticket was like $100,i'd say NO.I wont let anyone fool me,dont even care if god himself is performing live. psss someone said ppl who liked October Rust,will find Gathering's Mandylion (which is a great album,imo. better than Nighttime Birds) good too.Emm..what does Type O Negative have to do with the Gathering?? *curious* ______________________________________ In just a moment your life can slip away Wasting time by wasting chances When all that's left here is emptiness and hope It's always darkest before the dawn will show.. __________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack To: email_address_removed Subject: fonts Message-ID: For example I would condsider the old font that the band name > used to be written in to be a lot more "Dream Theateresque" then the bubble > letters on FII or the OIALT style lettering on the site and on the cover.>> > I think the only reason it looked more 'Dream-Theateresque', is because, well, that's what Dream Theater used. In any case I think the new fonts have more to do with what fits with the artwork. Do you imagine the FII cover with the old logo? It'd look STUPID. Besides, bitching about fonts is like bitching about people's accents. Does it really matter? Ern _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:45:18 +0000 From: Cyberwolf To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4320 Message-ID: IN regards to a previous question asked as such: >> >Was ACOS ever played live? It has indeed. They played it instrumentally at Sundance back in the pre-LaBrie days on good ole Long Island. And it pretty much remained almost the exact same over the years, song structure that it. Pretty remarkable if you think about it. Even on the old demo's of the song, it sounds incredibly close to the current version. Actually at the show they DID play it at, they did an all -instrumental set anyhow. Very cool. Scott M. http://www.mindspring.com.~ninja ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:05:48 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" To: "'(ytsejam)'" Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317 Message-ID: >> > DON'T CLICK HERE unless you want to see the >> > cover art for OIAL.. >> >> WOAH! That cover kicks ass!! Yup, very cool indeed. I just hope that Strom wasn't involved though. Never know what will be on the back side ...... maybe a bearded clam this time ........ Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 07:14:04 -0700 From: "Michael Patrick" To: email_address_removed Subject: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime... Message-ID: There's a debate on the DT newsgroup about whether Lisa Marie played an early copy of OiaLT last night or a boot from a show in Paris (possibly the same show as OiaLT?). Anyway, James was remarkably restrained (which is good), but I don't remember him being that way at all when Mike previewed OiaLT prior to his clinics. I'm keeping my fingers crossed... I DO NOT remember Derek's intro to 'Lines in the Sand' being anywhere NEAR that kick-ass when I saw my only (sniff) FII show in Chicago last November. Whatever anyone says, the man can smoke, and the range of sounds he incorporated was amazing. Mike -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Henry Rollins/KevMo Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Robert Newcomb wrote: > > I know some of you are saying to yourselves "Why the fuck is this guy > writting about Henry Rollins?" Well I'll tell you! I just got his new > spoken word album "Think Tank" and it is awsome. I highly suggest getting > this. Not only is Mr. Rollins a very intellegent speaker but he is funny > as shit. A True Masterpiece. Hey W. Tuggmutton, thanks for getting me > into this stuff buddy! > You think the CD is great, you should check him out live. He's on a US spoken word tour right this second. Anyone and everyone should check him out. I'll be seeing him at Irving Plaza in NY on October 14th. Tour dates are on his publication company's website: www.two1361.com sorry for NDTC, Al ===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email_address_removed OR email_address_removed OR email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:42:58 -0500 From: "W. Tugmutton" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Re: Henry Rollins Message-ID: <01bdf200$c714e8c0$message_id_removed> Ahoy, >I know some of you are saying to yourselves "Why the fuck is this guy >writting about Henry Rollins?" Well I'll tell you! I just got his new >spoken word album "Think Tank" and it is awsome. I highly suggest getting >this. Not only is Mr. Rollins a very intellegent speaker but he is funny >as shit. A True Masterpiece. Hey W. Tuggmutton, thanks for getting me >into this stuff buddy! >Now on to something completely different. I was curious if there was ever >an interview with Kevin Moore where he stated his own reasons for leaving. >Don't think I ever heard from the man who did the deed. >Laters >Thorin I saw Henry do a spoken word show in Austin this past weekend. A phenomenal show to say the least. If any of you are interested in going, go to www.two1361.com , Henry's book publishing company... check the News section for tour dates. When I saw him in Baton Rouge, LA, they let us go backstage a few at a time to meet him ... and he rocks... this time he came out and met those of us waiting around at the front of the stage. He's a really cool guy. Also, his new book, "Solipsist", is really great... of course so are all of them. That's all for now - - Mark email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:55:01 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: KevMo... Message-ID: <000001bdf202$758eef80$8f3688cf@jammer> Robert... Yes there is... Please read the Dream Theater FAQ. It has all this information, plus sooo much more. >From: "Robert Newcomb" >Now on to something completely different. I was curious if there was >ever an interview with Kevin Moore where he stated his own reasons >for leaving. Don't think I ever heard from the man who did the deed. > >Laters > >Thorin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 08:10:25 -0700 From: Lisa Marie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime... Message-ID: Michael Patrick wrote: > > There's a debate on the DT newsgroup about whether Lisa Marie played an early copy of OiaLT last night or a boot from a show in Paris (possibly the same show as OiaLT?). Nope, not a boot. That was a promo copy of OiaLT. -- Lisa Marie "Jessie" email_address_removed http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl ________________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:26:16 -0400 From: Paul Drapeau To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: DT Cover Art Message-ID: ------Quote------- Maybe its just cause the band I was really into the most when I got into DT for the first time was Floyd, but I really love Storms work, especially the covers for Animals and The Division Bell. I'm pretty sure it was his idea to change the fonts, so you can blame him for that too ;-) Paul Drapeau email_address_removed Age of Valor Live Role Playing http://www.ageofvalor.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:31:15 -0400 From: Paul Drapeau To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: DT Cover Art Message-ID: sorry about sending this again.. I was dumb :) ------Quote------- Maybe its just cause the band I was really into the most when I got into DT for the first time was Floyd, but I really love Storms work, especially the covers for Animals and The Division Bell. I'm pretty sure it was his idea to change the fonts, so you can blame him for that too ;-) ------Quote------- Yeah... at least now I have someone's ass to kick over the fonts :) I would never say that Sorms work is bad... I just don't know if it says "Dream Theater" to me... I like the Floyd covers and I "like" the new Dream Theater covers. I just get a funny feeling (and I know I got the same feeling a while back when he did an Anthrax cover) of "Hey is that a Floyd cd?.. uh no.. it is Dream Theater" I think his work is SO recognizable as "Floyd" that it feel weird or out of place on anything else to me... :) To each his own... :) Paul Drapeau email_address_removed Age of Valor Live Role Playing http://www.ageofvalor.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:47:32 +0100 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: KevMo chat transcript Message-ID: jOHN jENS wrote : > check http://www.dreamtheater.net/ for the transcript of the > most recent Kev irc chat. he addressed this question upfront > and w/ no bullshit :D Actually, it's not on UACM anymore... I made a seperate page for the KevMo stuff. :) If anyone has more material for it (interviews, reviews, whatever) please mail me! http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ck/ Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: email_address_removed *** join the FREE weekly Dream Theater newsletter ! *** ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4322 **************************