YTSEJAM Digest 4275 Today's Topics: 1) Re:- CD For Trade by "mnsss" 2) Heavy metal by "Juan Fco. Quintero" 3) Re: shred/ Racer X by Manuel 4) Boots from Japan... by Adam Pye 5) Younique + 1??? by "Juan Fco. Quintero" 6) Re: Shred anyone by Phil Carter 7) Happy Anniversary to Brian Cox by Richard Warren 8) Such Respect and Love.... by "Whatever..." 9) Mike Portnoys hair by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" 10) Re: Spock's Beard by email_address_removed 11) DT posters by email_address_removed 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4273 by "Thomas Forcier" 13) AoI Review in NY Newsday by "BassicRob" 14) Good Pop songs... (heaven forbid) by "Mark Philpot" 15) $10 off Music Blvd by yzzy 16) Derek by Jim Shields 17) Re: Derek by Rick Audet 18) Shred/Kansas Recommendations by "Jarno Tuomainen" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:06:42 +0800 From: "mnsss" To: Subject: Re:- CD For Trade Message-ID: > This is my want list:- > Yes- Roundabout > >What is this? I've been a fan of theirs since 1978 (Yup, saw 'em In The >Round in '79!), and I never heard of this...... Are you looking for >Fragile, maybe? It's the CD that contains Roundabout. > >John DiBella >President/Xanadu Records >http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html Ooopsss......yeah its Yes - Fragile. I was thinking of that song Roundabout actually. Do you have it for trade?Thanx for the correction. I got some more CDs added to the original trade:- Grim Reaper - Fear No Evil (Japan pressings) Grim Reaper - See You In Hell (Japan pressings) Slayer - Live In Concert bootleg Talisman- Talisman (with bonus tracks) Later Nazir PS:- Just looking for a trade & more e-mail pals from round the world ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:30:54 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" To: email_address_removed Subject: Heavy metal Message-ID: >Can anyone on this list suggest some groups similar to DT but >heavier? Kind of like the songs 'the mirror', 'lies' 'erotomania' , >'pmu' and the begining of 'uagm'. I like all of the heavy stuff but >would like to open up to other similar bands to broaden my own guitar >playing. Some are't heavier as DT but they are good enough to be mentioned! Angra Freewill Superior Eternity X The Quiet Room Fates Warning Mercury Rising Digital Ruin Empty Tremors Arkhe Aztec Jade Zen House Of Spirits Crises Hidrotoxin Enchant Lemur Voice Queensryche Shadow Gallery Threshold Timescape Vanden Plas Treasure Land Hope this helps you! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:31:56 +0200 From: Manuel To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: shred/ Racer X Message-ID: Juli wrote: << If you want shred check out Racer X this is Paul Gilberts old band from his MIT days. It is chok full of shred from everyone in the band. There are at least 2 cds they put out on Shrapnel Records. Juli>> hell yea, i think i mentioned racer x a hundred times on the jam but nobody noticed. if you are into totally mind boggling shred stuff and ass kicking heavy metal you gotta check out the racer x releases. but i think its four albums. the first one called 'Street Lethal', the second one (what an ingenious name!!) 'Second Heat' (which i am proud to have a sealed original shrapnel vinyl, that i found for 5$ in a music store in greece). after those milestones in heavy metal they released the 'Extreme Volume' live LP containing (boring) solos of all members, worth purchasing nevertheless. and i know of a second live LP they released later, though it only contains old material as well, since the group split up very soon :-( thats the shit, nobody notices the good stuff. As says the sticker on the Second Heat LP: 'SH features the twin guitar assault of PG and Bruce Bouillet, who combine for some of the wildest playing the world's ever seen. A must for true high_tech guitar fanatics as well as for those who enjoy well-crafted, hard driving heavy metal.' thanks for reading, ytsegreetings. 'the bad dont mean anything and the good dont last too long' (Spocks Beard) Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:33:51 -0400 From: Adam Pye To: email_address_removed Subject: Boots from Japan... Message-ID: Hey folks... In addition to the boots coming out of Japan that were listed by OAN Records in the previous 'Jam there are a few more that will be available soon. I'll give details as I get them. As it stands there are two released from the first FII Jap run that are available (tho' fairly difficult to find b/c of small print runs). One is called "Touring to Theater" and is from 01/13/98 Nagoya Kouseinenkin Hall, Aichi, Japan. The other is called "Looking Into Infinity" and is from the next night (1/14/98). I've heard both and they're of good sound quality (Minidisc source on one and DAT on the other). Good luck finding them outside of Japan, however. I've got those plus most of the rest of that run (1/9, 1/10, and 1/16 - missing 1/12) on cassette if anyone is interested in a trade. I can't trade the two above mentioned CD boots since I got all 5 of these shows from the original tapers (and makers of the CDs) and they don't want to reduce sales. However, the three others are all excellent quality and include some rarities (Nicky Lemmons, Nightmare Cinema). The 1/10 show (I believe) has the strangest timed Ytsejam I've ever heard (not the FYS version). This is all, of course, an advertisement for trading, but hey, someone might be interested. :) I'm looking for recent (2nd American leg, Japanese leg, 2nd Euro leg) FII tour boots and any DP/DT/ELP tour boots anyone has available. Check out my list - URL is in my .sig... Take care all... __________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:04:15 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" To: email_address_removed Subject: Younique + 1??? Message-ID: >Hmm. Well, I think this information is wrong. The Jap. version should >have _2_ bonus tracks. Sweet Pretence and the acoustic version of >Why. I don't want to say here that you told us bullshit here... maybe >just the guys from KotR got it wrong... I just Copy/Paste the information from their web site, and Yes, they got it wrong! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:11:47 -0400 From: Phil Carter To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: Re: Shred anyone Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids.... John P. inquired: >Hello there in ytseworld. I have lately been wanting to here some >more shredding guitar work, but I don't know where to look first. I >was thinking of checking out some of Joe Stump's stuff, I heard it is >supposed to be killer. Any suggestions about where to start? At the risk of starting the "fastest guitarist" thread all over again (and trying to beat Madsman to the punch, since he'll no doubt respond too), here's a couple suggestions: -- Anything by Tony MacAlpine ("Maximum Security", "Edge of Insanity" and "Premonition" are probably good starting points) -- Anything by Vinnie Moore ("Mind's Eye" and "Meltdown" are both good starting points) -- Anything by Joe Stump ("Supersonic Shred Machine" is fairly typical of his stuff) -- Ron Thal -- "The Adventures of Bumblefoot" -- Anything by MICHAEL.ANGELO. (he plays on the Nitro albums as well as two solo CDs including "No Boundaries" -- Anything by Impelliteri (the band) or Chris Impelliteri (the solo artist) -- Anything by George Bellas -- Jason Becker -- "Perpetual Burn" -- Marty Friedman -- "Dragon's Kiss" And if you're looking for acoustic shred, well, that's a whole 'nother story: -- Anything by Jesse Cook ("Gravity" and "Tempest" are both excellent) -- Anything by Billy McLaughlin ("Fingerdance" is a great starting point) -- Anything by Michael Hedges ("Aerial Boundaries" is his masterwork) -- Oscar Lopez -- "Heat" -- Anything by Bob Culbertson (Chapman Stick not guitar but has a very acoustic feel to it -- "The Touch" and "Cafe San Francisco" are good starting points) Ta, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Billy McLaughlin -- "Fingerdance" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:30:51 -0500 From: Richard Warren To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Cc: "Brian Cox" Subject: Happy Anniversary to Brian Cox Message-ID: I would like to publically congratulate Brian Cox on our 1st Anniversary. One year ago today I sent Brian 4 DATs and $3 to cover return postage. Brian was going to clone 4 Dream Theater shows for me. Instead, a year later I have nothing. I have traded with many people, all over the world and have never been screwed until Brian. I have told him in the past to forget cloning the tapes and just send the 4 DATs back to me using the $3 I sent him for postage. He will not even do that. I have to assume he never will since he has not replied to an e-mail in almost 3 months. I know some people feel that publically announcing a bad trader is not a good idea because some are good traders that have some misfortune. I disagree. I think reporting bad traders helps everyone in the long run. I mean think about it. There is NO reason, outside of death, to have someone's tapes for a year. Especially when I told him to skip cloning the DATs and just send the blanks back using the money I sent him. I apologize if I have offended anyone. My advice to everyone is do not trade with Brian Cox. Thanks, Richard e-mail: email_address_removed www: http://home.midsouth.r.com/rwarren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:22:04 +0000 From: "Whatever..." To: email_address_removed Subject: Such Respect and Love.... Message-ID: Hmm... WTF!? You see, when you signed up, you had COMPLETE info on how to get off, just as everyone else. And there is Ytsejam info at MANY places on the web, telling you how to - READ IT!!! >>>> Ahhh... THE ARROGANCE IS DEFINING! SUCH LOVE ABOUNDS EVERYWHERE! GOTTA LOVE HUMANITIES LOVE OF EACH OTHER! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:52:07 -0500 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" To: Subject: Mike Portnoys hair Message-ID: <01bde10c$3adf1ec0$a85099d1@default> I got Novembers issue of Modern Drummer today and after checking out the Tama ad on page 173, I have one question, "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MIKE PORTNOYS HAIR!!!!!?". For those of you who don't get Modern Drummer, I can only say 2" tall crew cut on top, very short sides and frosted. Also Mike....lose the glasses, they're not you dude. On a more positive note, there is a great artical on Mike and LTE (page 150). Mike email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:54:02 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Spock's Beard Message-ID: In a message dated 98-09-15 16:30:17 EDT, you write: << I spotted the following CDs in a local store and would like to ask for any reviews (pro or con): Spock's Beard - The Light Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness Elegy - State of Mind Keep in mind that I am more of a power/prog metal fan than a prog rock fan. Thanks!!! >> If your more of a metal fan then SB might not be your cup of tea. They sound alot like 70's prog like Yes and Kansas type stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:08:43 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT posters Message-ID: does anyone know where i can get DT posters on the web, besides concertposter.com? thanx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:24:10 -0400 From: "Thomas Forcier" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4273 Message-ID: Hello, Since this is the second time I saw this post, I had to reply: >1. Are all the songs taken from the Paris show? Yes. >2. Is it the Fasten Your Seatbelts version of the YtseJam? Dunno. >3. Do they play Caught in a Web or Caught in Alice's Nine Inch Tool Garden? CiaW. Obviously you haven't heard CiA9ITG, or you'd realize that the verses have the same riff as New Millenium. Not a flame, just observing. >4. Does Peruvian Skies include the snippets of Have a Cigar and Enter >Sandman? Yes. >5. Do they actually play all of Metropolis Pt. 1 and Learning to Live or do >they shorten them significantly into a medley? This is a medley including the ACOS VII section. Its worth hearing for the seamless segues into each song, though large chunks of each are omitted. >6. What are the track breakdowns and times? Dunno. Hope that helped you somewhat. I at least answered three question definitively. As for your others, someone may have the answer, or you can just buy the CD and find out, as I'm sure you will. :) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:24:18 -0400 From: "BassicRob" To: "ytsejam" Subject: AoI Review in NY Newsday Message-ID: <000901bde119$1bfc6640$f595af98@rob> Hey Jammers, I said I'd post it so here it is. This is what Newsday thought of Age of Impact. I was surprised to see it even reviewed so might pass it on. Gives a pretty good review too, but we already know its awsome from listening to it...over and over and over... ;) "Listeners nostalgic for well-executed dinosaur rock - and those too young to have lived through its heyday - may well find the Explorer's Club's prog-rock retro-pastiche quite enjoyable. Trent Gardiner's classically 'epic' effort, graced by such grizzily masters as Terry Bozzio on drums, Billy Sheehan on bass, and Yes' Steve Howe guesting on acoustic guitar, is a technically brillant, albeit, anachronistic, showcase of vintage '70s style guitar-god virtuosity and overblown synth pomposity. This is not the place to look for subtlety, irony or originality; but neither is there any pretense of such. Listening to "Age of Impact" is roughly analogous to winessing Ronk and Roll Hall of Famers jamming together on stage and belting out Chuck Berry chestnuts. The significance is in the gesture, not the performance - a respectful tribute to defunct but undeniably profound musical traditions." -Sept. 10, 1998 NY Newsday Nightbeat Section, p. C7 Too bad no mention of JP or KJLB. After all, JP was the main guitarist practically! Oh well, i dont think it was that bad of a review. Very wordy. Later. -Rob, email_address_removed ICQ# 15762800 email_address_removed DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:25:33 -0700 From: "Mark Philpot" To: Subject: Good Pop songs... (heaven forbid) Message-ID: <000001bde121$aa766c60$4c8c15cf@markphil> Jam, What do people recomend as good pop songs that are out there... I don't buy pop CD's anymore, and through the miricle of mp3, I can get just the one good song off of a pop album... I don't listen to the radio anymore (only the prog stuff in my CD player) so I'm completely out of the loop as far as good pop songs go... (more like popular rock songs, since I don't like rap, and R&B is ok, but rock is better...) So, would someone who is slightly more informed that I, please post a list of the good non-prog songs that are out there worth listening to? Thanks. Mark Philpot Music Creations Limited http://www.ccnet.com/~griphiam/musiccreations.htm "In the Stream of Consciousness there is a river crying living comes much easier once we admit we're dying." -Dream Theater "Lines in the Sand" "One of the greatest labor-saving inventions of today is tomorrow" - Vincent T. Foss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:28:21 -0500 From: yzzy To: email_address_removed Subject: $10 off Music Blvd Message-ID: found the following on xoom...

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------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:43:27 -0500 From: Jim Shields To: email_address_removed Subject: Derek Message-ID: >I'm not a Derek fan at all... What is the deal!? am I the only person who thinks Derek is Waaaaaaaaaaayy better than Kevin? Don't get me wrong, I love DT's music with KevMo, I&W is my fav. album overall, but Derek has so much more variety in the sounds he uses, the sounds are better (that might just be due to the technology progressing btwn '94 and '97, though) and his parts are more interesting. I'll admit that it took me a while to get used to Derek at first, but after a year listening to DS and KM, I think DS is far superior, and I think FII is second only to I&W. Kevin's parts in some of the older songs, esp. on Awake, really annoy me now. For example, on CiaW, that main keybd theme is a pretty cool part, but it sounds pretty lame with that string sound. The organ on the intro of the Mirror is pretty tame, too, esp. compared to DS's organ on LitS or Perfect Strangers. It seems like Kevin is stuck on string, organ, and piano patches. DS tends to be much more expressive in his playing as well, IMO. But then, my preference may stem totally from the fact that I love Korg gear more than just about anything else in the keyboard world (esp. the shiney ones! ;). Anyway, all you people who like Kevin Moore better are on crack. THANKYOUGOODNIGHT! Jim Shields Guitarist - Room 213 and Molotov Kittens =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Man I know I've gotta go / It's the same thing every night But I don't think another drink's / Gonna make me lose my mind So I think about my next drink And it's you and me and the bottle make three tonight Big Bad Voodoo Daddy =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Derek Message-ID: Jim Shields, apparently unaware that a topic beaten to death several times over has FINALLY and THANKFULLY ended, decided to make an attempt at resurrecting this VERY WORN OUT thread and wrote: > >I'm not a Derek fan at all... > > What is the deal!? Please stop. It's over. It has been over several times now. Let's give it a rest, can we? Please? It's done, and maybe should be added to the subscription letter saying "things not allowed for discussion", much like NIN, religion, M*tal*c*, et. al. And I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree. Rick Audet San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:13:34 PDT From: "Jarno Tuomainen" To: email_address_removed Subject: Shred/Kansas Recommendations Message-ID: Kansas: >Btw, can someone tell me which Kansas album is the best to start with ? >I've heard some songs from Kansas and they've sound really good. Box set is what you should go for if since you already know a little about the band's music and don't mind spending the extra cash. Of course you could pick up a compilation to get most overview of the band's music, if that's what you're looking for. From normal studio releases, I would suggest 'Leftoverture', it has 'Carry on Wayward Son' on it plus many other good songs. Personally I like the almost-instumental 'Magnum Opus' a lot. Shred: >Hello there in ytseworld. I have lately been wanting to here some >more shredding guitar work, but I don't know where to look first. I >was thinking of checking out some of Joe Stump's stuff, I heard it is >supposed to be killer. Any suggestions about where to start? Someone already mentioned Racer X, which I wouldn't consider as an essential shred guitar band. Of course the guys can shred (and also do), but the songs (at least on 'Second Heat') have (annoying) singing on them, and the guitar sound is also the typical 80's reverb-to-the-max sound, which also IMO sucks. Anyway, I'd strongly suggest you to listen the mentioned records/artists (including Racer X) to find out what suits your taste best. In the list, I've included what I consider to be the best of the best, so feel free to disagree. Don't know which cds/albums you already have so here goes: Fast instrumental guitarmanship: -Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force -Michael Angelo's work (www.angelo.com) -Joe Stump's work (www.leviathanrecords.com) A little more melodic still all instumental guitar work: -Tony MacAlpine 'Premonition' (www.shrapnelrecords.com) -Joe Satriani 'Crystal Planet' -Steve Vai 'Passion and Warfare' -Marty Friedman 'Dragon's Kiss' And shred with other instruments: -Niccólo Paganini '24 Caprices' (Violin) (BE SURE TO LISTEN BEFORE BUYING, MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE) -Vitalij Kuprij 'High Definition', 'Extreme Measures' (Keyboards w/ guitar) (www.shrapnelrecords.com) Some other artists you might want to check out: -Vinnie Moore -Jason Becker -Cacophony ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4275 **************************