YTSEJAM Digest 4270 Today's Topics: 1) Autumn Leaf by Richard Warren 2) Re: Bunnies and JP and whatnot by Brian Larkin 3) Rush in the Hall of Fame by email_address_removed 4) 2001, Part II by "Karol!" 5) 2001, Part I by "Karol!" 6) Dream Theater Font by "Eduardo Arcos B." 7) The latest news from Mike Portnoy by Mark Bredius 8) WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt by Conrad Chi 9) improv_isation in DT, DTC by Nathan Rood 10) RAIN CHEQUE PRE-ORDERING by email_address_removed 11) Re: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt by Robert Taylor 12) Heavy Metal by "J.T. Beachler" 13) News from AntiMaxim OnLine by Purgatori 14) Dream Theater in southamerica by Oscar Garcia Verastegui 15) Dream Theater in southamerica by Oscar Garcia Verastegui 16) sharing by "Robert Newcomb" 17) Pulp Fiction by CyberDuke 18) Last albums/reviews by NGA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:18:15 -0500 From: Richard Warren To: email_address_removed Subject: Autumn Leaf Message-ID: >Has anyone tried sending money to Autumn Leaf Records for the Spock's Beard >Bootleg but received their envelope back with a big "RETURN TO SENDER" >stamp on it? Stamp was on there, along with the correct address, checked >it a thousand times, but it didnt go through...Have no idea why. Any >suggestions would be appreciated. I sent them money a month or so ago and received the 2CD set in about a week. I just received an e-mail from the guy saying he was stuck in Europe without a flight. He didn't go into details but indicated he would be back soon. I can't explain the "RETURN TO SENDER". Anyway, the Spock Beard Live at the Roxy boot is quite nice and definitely worth the $19. The packaging is very nice for a homemade boot. It even has color, stick-on labels on the CDR. I recommend this boot. It is a little bassy but nothing a little eq. won't fix. Aside from the bass, it is a very clean recording and does not have a lot of intrusive crowd noise. Richard e-mail: email_address_removed www: http://home.midsouth.r.com/rwarren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:14:46 -0400 From: Brian Larkin To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bunnies and JP and whatnot Message-ID: This is NOT a flame. Bunny1682 wrote: >I am very disappointed in humanity. You're letting this list represent humanity? (ROTFLMFAO!) >Why is it that people are so willing to >partake in stupid debates so heatedly Because it's FUN! ;-) (Not that I've done it much lately, but still ...) ;-) >but are so unwilling to >help someone in need? A few days ago, I posted an email asking for help on a >journalism article I have to write about DT. And you know what? Not one >person wrote back. This could be for a number of reasons. Some people don't have time; they may have skimmed past your post (like I probably did), or not even read the jam you posted it to. Or, it could be that no one really had anything to offer. I did a paper on DT this past May, and was lucky enough to get at least *some* assistance from someone (thanks again Paul Humm, btw I got an A!). You shouldn't always take it personally when no one responds to your post, unless your name is Arash. ;-) >This is such a letdown, so I hope this mailing list >modulater would cancel this subscription out of a little bit of pity, at >least. Come on now, do it yourself, it's not too difficult. When you subscribed, you were sent an email with guidelines which INCLUDED how to unsubscribe. Robert Jurado wrote: >I was wondering if anyone out there knew if JP was still doing lessons >for >GW. He doesn't seem to have any new ones on GW online. As far as I know, he's done 5 articles for his "Wild Stringdom" column this year: Warming Up, pts. 1&2, and Practice Makes Perfect, pts. 1, 2, and (I think) 3. GW Online has yet to update his column past PMP1. There was no "Wild Stringdom" article in the last GW I read, however (I think it was August). Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. Does anyone know if JP will be doing any clinics soon, or when he will be doing his second instructional video? I know, I probably would've seen it on UACM, but I just had to ask anyway, being the Petrucci fanatic that I am. TiA. Buh-bye now! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:33:23 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Rush in the Hall of Fame Message-ID: In a message dated 98-09-13 10:41:00 EDT, bredius@globalxs.nl writes: This was in the UACM newsletter... just thought I should pass the word for those who didnt know... > > The Rush Hall of Fame Inductee Campaign > > "A band is eligible for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame 25 > years after the release of their first album. With Rush > having been released in 1974, this is Rush's first year > of eligibility. Bands are nominated by a committee, who > looks at the artists' contributions to music. Since we all > know that Rush is routinely overlooked by critics, we are > responsible for letting the committee know how important > Rush has been! But we have to hurry, we only have until > the end of October!" > > More information can be found on : > > http://syrinx.yyz.com/HTML/rushhof.html ~Lisa email_address_removed http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. -Bertrand Russell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:38:26 -0300 From: "Karol!" To: Subject: 2001, Part II Message-ID: <01bddf56$75561840$message_id_removed.br> 4. Individual:The monkey had this insight all by himself. He was the first one to use the bone as a weapon. Then, he showed it to his 'friends' or they saw him using and started to use it too. So, first it was an individual knowledge, then it became a knowledge to all the group (and even to the enemies, I think, I don't remember that scene very much). There are two kinds of intuition: a)racional and b)sensitive or empiric intuition. This last one relates to the states of the subject of the knowledge: sensations, memories, feelings, perceptions... all of these are exclusivily personal, so, when the monkey had the intuition, he was alone. Only after this that the group became aware of it too. 5. The scene shows a monolite. The monkeys see it and they are afraid and run. They start throwing things toward it, but then they stop attacking, they come closer and their faces goes like '???'. (Don't remember what happens next). This shows how people react when they search for the truth of something (in this case, when they want to know what is that monolite). Doubt and confusion, fear and admiration, all these sensations (etc.) make us "want to know what we don't know, make us want to leave the state of insecurity or enchantment, make us take notice of our ignorance and bring the desire of overcoming the uncertainty." And here the part of the monkeys finishes. I saw the rest of the film just once, and a long time ago, so, I didn't see it carefully. So, that's it. Karol! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:38:14 -0300 From: "Karol!" To: Subject: 2001, Part I Message-ID: <01bddf56$6e4c0820$message_id_removed.br> Alan Estrada wrote: >I guess the movie's message is that maybe >it will be another big bang after that as it is other new lifeforms after >others die.... >it's all a cycle...uhm...I guess I said it all twice.....well, any other >interpretations? I saw this film (the beggining, just the part of the monkeys) during one of my philosophy classes last year. I didn't remember much of it, so I looked at my scribbles and this was written there: - internal problem - external problem - individual - "insight" But, with the help of my philosophy book I could remember/realize that the film shows the two types of rational activity, one of the two types of intuition, the two types of problem (when you're talking about a group) and the reactions that one can have in trying to find the truth. 1. Internal problem: when the group of monkeys is fighting against each other (for food or something, don't remember) 2. External problem: when the group of monkeys fight against another group of monkeys because of the lake. 3. Intuition: When a monkey sees a piece of bone. First, it's something completely common for him (as that are bones everywhere at that age). But then he looks at the bone, the bone looks at him... and... PLIN! He realizes that he can use the bone as a weapon! Now, interpretation of this scene: There are two kinds of racional activity: intuition and reasoning. Intuition: immediate form of knowledge; Reasoning: reaches the concept of the object through levels of knowledge, so it goes step by step and through several acts of knowledge. So, this scene shows a case of intuition, since the monkey had an immediate comprehension. "Psychologists relate to intuition using the term 'insight', relating to the moment when one has a total, direct and immediate comprehension of something, or the moment when one realizes, at once, the way to the solution of a scientific, philosophical or vital problem." So, the monkey had a problem (within his group and with the other one) and realized the solution (to use the bone as a weapon, so that he could protect himself, attack the others and win) knowing the object (bone) in a direct way. I'll split this into two messages, so it won't seem it's so big... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:43:04 -0600 From: "Eduardo Arcos B." To: Subject: Dream Theater Font Message-ID: <000001bddf67$df27e080$f09524c8@edu98> Hi all YtseJamers, I have a project envolving Dream Theater and a web page, and I was looking for the Dream Theater font (not flexure), if anyone can send it or knows where I can get it, please email me privately. Thank you :O) C ya, Eduardo Arcos B. email_address_removed.mx email_address_removed edu.portal: http://ecuatorianos.com/edu.portal ICQ UIN: 2441685 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:12:37 +0200 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: The latest news from Mike Portnoy Message-ID: I've just added the latest news from Mike Portnoy to "Under A Cyber Moon", which includes... * Information about "5 Years in a LIVEtime" (video) * Japanese release of "Once in a LIVEtime" (live 2CD) * South American tour dates (no venues and cities yet) ...and some more interesting things. :) Go check it out... http://www.dreamtheater.net/ Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: email_address_removed The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:00:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi To: email_address_removed Subject: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt Message-ID: Cruising through the stations, I saw a wrestler from the WCW wearing a SAVATAGE "Dead Winter Dead" shirt. It blew me away! I don't know the wrestlers name, but he was in the ring with a microphone ordering a guy around. also, one of the guitar magazines, 'Under a glass moon ' was named the 97th best solo of all time. has the new HELLOWEEN been released in the US yet? what label are they on now? -- Conrad Chi email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:58:08 -0400 From: Nathan Rood To: Screaming in Ytse Subject: improv_isation in DT, DTC Message-ID: Well, Someone people have posted about lack of room for improvisation in a DT concert. As again not to start a flame war, but you have to understand that not all of us here on the Ytsejam come from the same facet of music. Some of us enjoy jam oriented improvisational music like Phish and Zappa. Here's what MP has to say about improv in DT, from his notes about OiaL on the official Electra site: ------------------------- And of course, what Progressive live album would complete without the obligatory self-indulgent solo spots!!!! The arrangements to the songs are almost never the same as the album versions. Some songs are extended and have improvised jams thrown in, some songs are shortened and have been combined to create medleys, some songs have bits & pieces of cover tunes thrown in......It's this variety and these embellishments that I think make our live show ------------------------- Again, not trying to flame, just defending myself. My point is that there's room for _some_ improv in DT. That's what I like about the band, the variety. If a band does all soft, whiny songs that's incredibly boring to me, and the same goes for a band that's all heavy songs in E pentatonic. How dull. DT is such a great band because they mix it up so well, you've got soft stuff like Hollow Years to heavy tunes like Puppies on Acid; and you've got some fixed arrangements exactly like the album versions with some improvisational jams. np: Pat Metheny, _Quartet_. -Nate -- Nathan Rood / handle: Horizen mailto:email_address_removed \ ICQ: 6170743 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ There are two ways to get through life easily; to believe everything, or to believe nothing. Both release the mind from thinking. Earl Hindman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:15:17 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: RAIN CHEQUE PRE-ORDERING Message-ID: Hey everybody. It's the one and only "glam rock" loving Richie Rivera here, writing to you from my new e-mail address. Boston's pretty cool so far, in case you were wondering. Anyway, the real reason for the this message (aside from a general "what's up?") is to announce that my band, Vermont's very own RAIN CHEQUE, has finally finished up our album. Yes, it's been a long, hard process, as I'm sure many on this list have experienced themselves at some point. The CD, called "Beauty Before Change," is now available for pre- ordering. The released date is October 1st, God willing :) It can be ordered through our website at http://www.uvm.edu/~cfrederi/index.htm, where you can also hear sound clips (real audio only). The page is still in its preliminary stages, so it's pretty bare bones so far. We'll soon have both photos and lyrics available for your inspection, hopefully by the end of the week. But again, PRE-ORDERING IS NOW OPEN! The price is $8, plus $1 shipping and handling. Just so you don't go in with the wrong idea, we are not a progressive metal band, though a couple of our songs do lean in that direction. Basically, we play technically demanding, guitar-driven pop with female vocals. Picture DT, Warrant, and The Cranberries all getting into a head-on collision. We're the result. Check it out. Richie P.S. As for DT content, umm......three of the songs appearing on the album (the most DT sounding ones) were co-written with one Chris "D-Man" Merlo from the old Nine Miles days, who used to maintain the DT FAQ. That's the best I can do. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:52:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Conrad Chi wrote: > Cruising through the stations, I saw a wrestler from the WCW > wearing a SAVATAGE "Dead Winter Dead" shirt. It blew me away! > I don't know the wrestlers name, but he was in the ring with > a microphone ordering a guy around. I don't watch WCW myself, but my brother did a few times a few weeks back and a guy was wearing a Nevermore t-shirt with their first album cover on the front. His name was the Raven so it kind of fit ("Quoth the Raven, 'Nevermore'"). But he was ordering guys around too, so he's probably the same guy. Maybe this guy is a big metalhead! Robert Taylor email_address_removed http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.T. Beachler" To: email_address_removed Subject: Heavy Metal Message-ID: Can anyone on this list suggest some groups similar to DT but heavier? Kind of like the songs 'the mirror', 'lies' 'erotomania' , 'pmu' and the begining of 'uagm'. I like all of the heavy stuff but would like to open up to other similar bands to broaden my own guitar playing. Thanks! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 22:21:09 EDT From: Purgatori To: email_address_removed Subject: News from AntiMaxim OnLine Message-ID: Hi everyone... This is just a note asking you to check out our website dedicated to all kinds of underrated music. Since this IS a DT list, it'll be most appropriate to note that we have an interview with Derek Sherinian on our site, and there's more stuff coming (like a one-on-one interview with Johnny Lee Middleton of Savatage). Right now, we're asking you to send in questions for Johnny as the interview is scheduled for the end of the month. We're giving it about a week to compile a list. Send them to email_address_removed and check out the site at http://www.gravy.net/~antimaxim Thanks a lot!!! AM admin: Sue "LadyJanie" Kim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:19:12 +0500 (GMT) From: Oscar Garcia Verastegui To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater in southamerica Message-ID: Hi: Also on the bill is Slayer, Megadeth, Manowar, Savatage & several others. It also looks likely we will be playing 3 shows as a special guest to Megadeth on October 1st, 3rd & 4th. This was the message posted by Mike on the official page...well the 3 'Deth dates with DT as special guest is for Buenos Aires, Argentina at Parque Sarmiento....a venue for 7000 people. Regards, Oscar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:26:50 +0500 (GMT) From: Oscar Garcia Verastegui To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater in southamerica Message-ID: Hi: Is confirmed...Dream Theater openning the Megadeth shows in Buenos Aires. MEGADETH 1 de Octubre - Parque Sarmiento. Entradas en venta con descuento a Ticketmaster al 321-9700, en Dexter Shops y en el Teatro Opera, (en =E9ste ultimo no se cobra service charge). Grupos invitados: LETHAL, TREPADOR y DREAM THEATER. Precio Unico: $ 22 =20 Regards, Oscar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:45:34 -0500 From: "Robert Newcomb" To: Subject: sharing Message-ID: I know that most of you probably have or should have the Liquid Tension Experiment cd but if you don't there are two at the Hastings near by me. If anyone could get me some Angra or Symphony-X I could get you a copy. I know some of you still cant find/wont order the damn thing. Please email privately. Thorin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:27:52 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: email_address_removed Subject: Pulp Fiction Message-ID: NDTC onviously! This is a kind of movie, when you watch over and over again you always notice something different, something new that you didn't before. I guess that makes it a prog. movie, a? ;-) 1) In the scene when John Travolta and Samuel Jackson enter the room with the punks who stealed that misterious suitcase. When Travolta finds it and opens it, the password (lock) number of the suitcase is 666! :) Anybody noticed it? Any idea what can it mean? Does anything in this movie means anyhting? :) 2) Also when Bruce Willis drives with the cab running away after the fight, the background is ... weird!. Ya know, usually when there's scene in a car driving, the background is always a street screne moving which is supposed to make the illusion that it really is recorded like that. Well here Taranatino does the same BUT, the background is BLACK-WHITE!!?!? No colors. ??? Dushko =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "If you ARE a character, it doesn't mean that you HAVE a character" Mr. Wolf, "Pulp Fiction" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:03:38 +0100 From: NGA To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Last albums/reviews Message-ID: Hi all the suggestions as to which albums people would like to hear prior to going to meet Old Smokey are interesting - keep them coming. Warning: I went on a spending spree at the weekend, and you can expect reviews of the following albums very soon: ANGRA - Fireworks DAEMONARCH - Hermeticum ELECTRIC WIZARD - Supercoven HIM - Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666 SUPERIOR - Younique Fed up of hearing about Clinton/Lewinsky and the cigar? Try this address for a different view of things: http://fotm.rotten.com/fidel/ stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: ELECTRIC WIZARD - Supercoven (just playing this album gets you stoned!) ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4270 **************************