YTSEJAM Digest 4228 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Time machine by "Bj?rnar Bevolden" 2) Ytse Shirt URL by email_address_removed 3) The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers by email_address_removed 4) Re: The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers by Al Balkiewicz 5) Paul Gilbert's Hendirx Tribute by RJEN@isma.co.uk 6) Re: click tracks... your right by Al Balkiewicz 7) Re: House of Lords by email_address_removed 8) Extreme being a prog. band by Dushko 9) Happy Birthday, Derek!! by email_address_removed 10) Re: various by TheCowGod 11) Stick invented when?; 'jam unsubscribing by Phil Carter 12) Crim History and The Philly Show by "Longshot" 13) Re: Vai/LTE by Phil Carter 14) Re: The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers by TheCowGod 15) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4224 by "Blevins, Mike" 16) New Dokken guitarist by "Volodya" 17) Enchant's Break by Arash Ashouriha 18) Re: Fripp Shredding by Chris Calabrese ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:33:53 +0200 From: "Bj?rnar Bevolden" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Time machine Message-ID: Hello ! Peter Geerts wrote: >=20 > I don't know if my previous message got through to the jam so again: >=20 > Does anyone know a band named Time Machine (Italian I think). They have > some sort of 'Galileo' album... Anybody know if this is worth checking > out? Here are what the Italian prog metal band Time Machine has released: -Dungeons of the vatican -Project; time scanning -Act II: Gallileo -Shades of time Related titles: -Eddy Antonini: When water became ice (with ex. Time Machine member) -Arthur Falcone: Stargazer (with the singer of Time Machine) -Mesmerize: Tales of wonder (with ex. Time Machine member) I have the Act II: Gallileo cd and i think it`s rather good. At least it`s definitely worth checking out if you are into melodic prog metal.=20 Bye, Bj=F8rnar, Norway ! NP: Magnitude 9: Chaos to control ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:41:48 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse Shirt URL Message-ID: Here is the url for the ytse shirts : http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel/ytsepage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:03:10 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers Message-ID: I have a friend who works in the sign making business, and he is able to make stickers of (damn near) any size. I talked to him recently, and he said that he could make me one. After he was finished, I was proud to put the basketball-sized Ytsejam on the back of my car. Now no one will doubt I'm a DT fan ;o) I was thinking that since I know I'm definitely not the only DT fan in the world, I could help share this cool idea. If I were to have my friend make some, and I were to sell them over the 'net, or something, would that be legal? Afterall, it is Dream Theater's logo. I wasn't sure if this would be copyright infringement of some kind. Just wanted to fly that by you guys/gals. [eriC] THE DRE/\M THE/\TER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > > I was thinking that since I know I'm definitely not the only DT fan in the > world, I could help share this cool idea. If I were to have my friend make > some, and I were to sell them over the 'net, or something, would that be > legal? Afterall, it is Dream Theater's logo. I wasn't sure if this would be > copyright infringement of some kind. Just wanted to fly that by you > guys/gals. > I doubt that the symbol is trademarked by Dream Theater, especially since it's the letter "M" in specific font that's probably used by others.... However, there might be a problem is you actually associate the name "Dream Theater" with the symbol, since the name of the band is licensed or something (don't know the legal-ese). But then again, people are selling the Ytsejam T-shirts as well. If you do a sticker with just the symbol, I don't think there's a problem at all. Hell, if someone calls you on it, just say you were selling it to people as a monogram for their cars, and that only people whose first or last names began with the letter "m", or only for people who had an "m" in their name. (both of which don't apply to me). Or for people whose cars began with "m" or had an "m" in it. (damn, still doesn't apply to me). awww, fuck it, I don't want a sticker anyway. Just my convoluted look at things - the crack rocks this morning :) -Al ===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email_address_removed OR email_address_removed OR email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:33 +0100 From: RJEN@isma.co.uk To: email_address_removed Subject: Paul Gilbert's Hendirx Tribute Message-ID: Dushko Wrote: I love tributes! How can someone not like for example, "Voodoo Chile" cover of let' say - Paul Gilbert! ;-) I typed : Yeah, the that 5 track tribute album smokes. Also check out the Jeffology tribute. That's got some pretty mean geetar. As for Steve Vai participating, what about Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, Vinnie Moore or the man they're on tour with now, the one and only Steve Morse. The G3 suggestion a few jams ago had me salivating. Cheers, Rhys NP: Carl Verheyen - Slingshot (wicked blues) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: click tracks... your right Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Michael Velders wrote: > OK Yeah That's gotta be it! That makes total sense. I guess he uses a > metronome to keep time and plays the basic track, then plays another > track on top of that. Thanks! > Actually, if you have the Live in Tokyo video, during the part where they're in the studio making I&W, you can here the click track, especially (I think) in the part were John Myung is putting down the bass track. At the end of the bass part, (the short instrumental part after "i feel kindness, beauty, and truuuuuu-uh-uhhhh-uh-uhhhh-uhhhhhhhhhhhst") you can here a click track going along with KevMo's keys...... -Al ===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email_address_removed OR email_address_removed OR email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:46:13 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: House of Lords Message-ID: > They're a Christian band? Since when? I have the first two albums and I > don't see/hear anything that would make them an overtly Christian band. > "Not that there's anything wrong with that." I always meant to get Demons > Down, but never did. Now I'll have to hit the cut-out bins. I'm not terribly familiar with House of Lords' music, but I do know that Lanny Cordola (who, I believe, played guitar for them) played on a few Christian metal albums (Shout, Magdalen), and released some solo albums of his own that had a lot of instrumentals and songs with lyrics (Electric Warrior/Acoustic Saint and Of Riffs and Symphonies), all of which had some sort of Christian theme. Dale R. Newberry email_address_removed "I'm hip about time." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:00:04 +0200 From: Dushko To: email_address_removed Subject: Extreme being a prog. band Message-ID: > From: Paal Birger Solhaug > Subject: Re: Extreme's Cupid's Dead / Progressive or not Progressive > > And a question for all you people out there: Is Extreme concidered to be > progressive? IMO, music should be concidered to be progressive if the music > does something completely new with and old genre. > [snip] > Anyway, my point is that when Extreme first came with III Sides to > Every Story, that album was (and still is) something so different > from anything I had heard before that I would concider it to be > progressive. What do you other people think about this? I really > want to hear other people's opinions. I think that Extreme jumps our quite alot from the metal/hard rock cliche. They have alot time changes, odd breaks, very rich arrangements etc. They have the best rockin' sound I heard nowadays! I guess that makes them a prog. band in a way! Dushko _______________________________________ <| |> <| "Everything's is immaterial |> <| You know that reality is immaterial? |> <| This is not reality!" |> <| |> <| - "Voices", |> <| Dream Theater |> <|_______________________________________|> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:21:44 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Happy Birthday, Derek!! Message-ID: Haaaaappy birrrrthday tooooo yooooooou, haaaaappy birrrrthday tooooo yooooooou, haaaaappy birrrrthday, Derek Sheriniaaaaaaaaan... Haaaaaappy birrrrrrthday tooooooooooooo yooooooooou. [eriC] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:21:03 -0700 From: TheCowGod To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: various Message-ID: >hope that's what you guys mean). Why not filter out the QP shite before it >even enters the list BTW? i suggested that a while back. maybe hearing it from someone famous will get skadz to take note? :) moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter To: Liquid Tension Ytse Subject: Stick invented when?; 'jam unsubscribing Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... The Cow God wants to know: > the chapman stick existed back then? [1981] i thought it was a > relatively new invention. moo. Emmett Chapman built himself a prototype Stick in the late 60's, still playing around with ideas at that point. Stick Enterprises was formed in 1974 to distribute the Stick. Rogerio suggested something for the 'jam.... > * periodically, the list unsubscribes everybody, so only people > really interested in the discussions keep on subscribing. This gets rid of > people who are subscribed by "inertia", that is, people who are only > subscribed because they're lazy to unsubscribe. Yeah, but if this happened, those of us who promptly resubscribed would have to sit through three days worth of "Is the 'jam working? I haven't gotten one in xx days" messages. :) :) Ta, Phil ======================================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed (work), email_address_removed (personal) Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: Europe -- "Prisoners in Paradise" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:47:26 +0000 From: "Longshot" To: email_address_removed Subject: Crim History and The Philly Show Message-ID: Syrinx almost had it right, but missed an era of KC. The original lineup only played on the first album. Then came a period where the band wasn't really a band. The next three albums ("Wake of Posidon", "Islands", "Lizard") were by a lineup that never really jelled. I don't remember off the top of my head who was in it, but it never really succeed to anyone's expectation. Probably the last albums you should pick up. I second Syrinx's recommendation for the Philly PG, Mastermind, and FK Show. I've seen the first two and they both put on a great show. I'll be catching the FK when they come down here on 9/8. Unfortunatly, I can't go to the Philly show being that it is in the middle of the week and I'm starting a new job. BTW, when Mastermind played at Powermad, they were sporting a new female lead singer. She both sounds and looks great, so u guys are in for a treat. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer There is a theory which states that if anyone "The Longshot" discovers what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be email_address_removed replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened -Douglas Adams --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter To: Liquid Tension Ytse Subject: Re: Vai/LTE Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Carlos A. wants to know: > Didnt mike himself state that the 2nd Liquid tension experiment could > only have the same lineup as the first because that was what LTE was? Yes, he did, at the Marietta drum clinic, when I asked him if LTE II might include Jens Johannson and Billy Sheehan (the two musicians who'd originally expressed interest in doing the LTE thing). Personally I'd love to hear Jens on a project like this....but Mike says the LTE lineup is solidified now and the next album will be the four of them again. Ta, Phil ======================================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed (work), email_address_removed (personal) Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: Europe -- "Prisoners in Paradise" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:49:46 -0700 From: TheCowGod To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: The Legality of Ytsejam Stickers Message-ID: >I have a friend who works in the sign making business, and he is able to make >stickers of (damn near) any size. I talked to him recently, and he really? i want one of those huge-ass decals to put on the side of a van, with the Awake cover on it. That'd rock. :) And ACoS on the other side. And a smaller WDATU on the back. Woo, a YtseVan. Rock. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:07:02 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4224 Message-ID: > I'm almost possitive that Neil Peart uses an electronic metronome of > some sort in concert for some songs. Only a few that he > probably has so > many effects to accomplish in that he probably can't do it > without it. > This could be a Click Track or something similar, but as far > as I know > and from what Portnoy said in the clinic, a Click Track is something > similar to an electronic Metronome, but more sophisticated. Actually, a click track is PRECISELY that, just tailored to the song - usually because there are sequenced samples, keyboards, or vocals that are being used live. Rush does do this occasionally - such as Roll the Bones, for example. Look for headphones on the drummer... Magnus wrote... > How's the first albums, "The Damnation Game" and "Symphony X", by > Symphony X compared to TDWOT and TIO? Are they similar? I like "Damnation Game", but I hate the singer on the first album. Since Russ Allen is main reason I listen to the band, however, this may make me biased. It was good meeting everyone at Powermad - especially the irrepressible Dr. Mosh, Rick "Dolby Labs" Audet, and the infamous Jessie. Now I have only a few YtseIcons (tm) left to meet - including the Madsman himself. Maybe next year... BTW, a note to Coldfire - you weren't kidding about "Tyranny" being fabulous (I seem to remember you mentioning this at some point... :) I was somewhat of a fan of CIS, but being one of the lucky 20 or so to come back from Powermad with a copy of this, I'm now hooked. Yay! They found the guitars this time... To anyone else: buy Shadow Gallery's "Tyranny" when it comes out. It's wonderful stuff... Mike Division ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:24:48 +0200 From: "Volodya" To: Subject: New Dokken guitarist Message-ID: <000301bdd04d$42e36560$55219ac3@default> Hello everyone, Just got to know the name of new Dokken guitarist. Reb Beach has replaced John Norum and has already recorded 7 songs for the new album due to be released in fall '98. The new material is mostly based on old Winger stuff that didn't make the first record. You know what it means - Dokken are back to their roots! (and even further:) ) Take care, Volodya. NP: Firehouse "good acoustics". ........................................................................... ................ OPEN ALL NIGHT [ OAN ] RECORDS http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm e-mail: dr.riffken@hol.fr ICQ number: 16845600 ........................................................................... ................. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:14:59 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: Enchant's Break Message-ID: <35E37DB3.19FE@fh-niederrhein.de> Hi Here is some quick info about Enchant's new album "Break" : The tracklisting : Break (5:04) - King (4:33) - My Enemy (6:57) - Defenseless (4:54) - The Lizard (4:44) Surrounded (4:18) - Silence (3:35) - In The Dark (5:49) - My Gavel Hand (5:03) The Cross (6:53) LIMITED EDITION's BONUS TRACK: Once A Week (6:23) You can download a sound clip "Silence" from the following site : http://www.prog-metal.mypage.org NP : Royal Hunt - Moving Target (now availible also in USA) Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:26:41 -0400 From: Chris Calabrese To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Fripp Shredding Message-ID: >> But if you just wanna hear him shred, then get some King Crimson:) >> > Uh, I think "shred" is the wrong word. Fripp doesn't play like a Vai would > (which is why he was very impressed by the guitarist at G3. He can't play > like that because that isn't his style.) That isn't to say that his stuff > isn't complex. I just wouldn't call it "shredding". > Actually, about a month ago I saw ProjecKt II in Boston (Robert Fripp, Trey Gunn and Adrian Belew) and Fripp was really shredding. I've been an Yngwie fan for years, and speedwise, he blew Yngwie out of the water. You should hear him jam. He does fingertapping and arpeggios all over the place. He also plays in the style from the many different KC eras (Thrak, LTiA, Discipline, ITCOFCK) but he's also an incredible player in the style of say a Malmsteen or even an EVH. In my opinion, Fripp IS the best. And that's a bold statement, because I'm not the kind of person who "ranks" musicians because I think it makes you look like an ignorant asshole, but Fripp is the man at the top. ~Chris -- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools. - King Crimson ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4228 **************************