YTSEJAM Digest 4193 Today's Topics: 1) Oh darn... by Geddy Lee 2) Re: Mike and Derek by email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) 3) Re: [themirror] by email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 by email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 by email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) 6) BP's Wakeman by Stefan Eriksson 7) CDs for sale by "Jason T. Breitweg" 8) Legal question by email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) 9) Re: Cool Derek stuff and Ytsetee's by Cassiano 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 by Cassiano 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 by email_address_removed 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 by email_address_removed 13) Re: This guy Derek...! by email_address_removed 14) German friend selling CD's by Per Pettersson 15) Yowzza! Saw somethin' extraordinare by Per Pettersson 16) Dammit! I'm on with my real name! by Per Pettersson 17) Derek, my boy... by Geddy Lee 18) RE: VAN HALEN CONCERT? WHAT VAN HALEN CONCERT? by "Frank Benenati" 19) Re: Re: on varied subjects (mostly fave moments) by Paul Weiss ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:36:39 +0100 From: Geddy Lee To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Oh darn... Message-ID: <98Aug18.133253gmt+message_id_removed.se> I wrote: eJ8+IiYLAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAAAEAAAEAAAAMAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAOwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29t AFNNVFAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20AAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEAAAAPAAAAeXRz ZWphbUBheC5jb20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABEAAAAneXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20n AAAAAAIBCzABAAAAFAAAAFNNVFA6WVRTRUpBTUBBWC5DT00AAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8B AAAABAAAAAAAAALYKQEEgAEANwAAAEJhZCBjaG9pY2Ugb2Ygd29yZHMgY2F1c2luZyBwb3RlbnRp YWwgbWlzdW5kZXJzdGFuZGluZwCvFAEFgAMADgAAAM4HCAASAA0AFAAfAAIAMQEBIIADAA4AAADO BwgAEgANAA0AMgACAD0BAQmAAQAhAAAAQ0RBOTJCMkQ5QzM2RDIxMUIxMjMwMDIwQUZDREUxMjcA LwcBA5AGAGwDAAAUAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwAuAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAA OQBARAM2msq9AR4AcAABAAAANwAAAEJhZCBjaG9pY2Ugb2Ygd29yZHMgY2F1c2luZyBwb3RlbnRp YWwgbWlzdW5kZXJzdGFuZGluZwAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb3KmjW4LSupzjacEdKxIwAgr83hJwAA HgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABkAAABudjk5NzAxQGVneW1uLnRyYW5lbW8uc2UA AAAAAwAGEItYohADAAcQ8gAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAFlPSU5NWUxBU1RMSVRUTEVMRVRURVJUSEVX T1JEIkRPIkJFQ0FNRSJTTyJJTUVBTlRPRkNPVVJTRTpQTEVBU0UsREVSRUsoQU5ERVZFUllCT0RZ RUxTRSxGT1JUSEFUU0FLRSkAAAAAAgEJEAEAAADAAQAAvAEAAJ8CAABMWkZ1LslX6/8ACgEPAhUC pAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V0bjIGAAbDAoMyBEYCAHBwcnExIAhVB7ICgzOXA8YHEwKDNBUP ZjUDxUMTgxIic3RlbQKAfX8KgAjPCdkCgAqBDbELYG7wZzEwNRTwCwoS8QvxsCBZby4KhQqFSQOg uG15IAtgGGAeUGkCQDxsZR5QEgAYcAXAdGgFHwB3BbBkICJkb2giIGIFkGEHgCAQczcgQB0eHiBl AHAFQG9m7iAFoAhwEfA6Co8LkRTyGxzBIzVQHvAecGUsIMJEBJBlayAoAHAgAFRldgSQeQbgZB5A ZS5sJZICEB9yYQVAc2HIa2UpJbBjdQVAH5JRBQBhcCAmQiogMCpHH4MfkAuAZyB5CGAncRmgIGdv BHApQAVALf4gC1EeQB+SKDAmwQsRJiD5H5JtdQCQIJADIAuAGGDMcnUHgAIwKSEjNxwr7SM1QiiR IhBnClAEESfD3SLBbCAAIHAncGkwcBmhfyKAKJED8B+QJnAlgSlBeVp3K7AuHOEqoGwDIG7jJoIs EG5vdyWwH5AIYGRnaB0dR0wjNRjBAAE24AMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAABAAAcwIP/9RpnKvQFAAAgw IP/9RpnKvQEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAwANNP03AABk4A== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDCAAA.FDBE4C40-- (or did I?) Sorry. That will be my last post for a long time. My pride & confidence is gone. Thanks to a machine. GL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:46:52 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mike and Derek Message-ID: email_address_removed writes: Great post and it's nice to see some REAL DT content here. (sorry Derek!) =A0 email_address_removed replied: HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=A0:) Amen! I never thought I would live to see Mike and Derek fighting each other on the jam. How should this match up be settled? Two-out-of-three-falls or No DQ/No Count-out? :o) ~BC "The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: [themirror] Message-ID: BTW, anyone have an idea as to why we don't hear DT doing many Rush covers? (I can't think of any except Tears) I have no I idea, but maybe it has to do with all the Rush/DT comparisons that pop up all the time? Who knows. Personaly I'd love to hear DT do full versions of "The Analog Kid" or "By-tor and the Snowdog" , or maybe a quicker version of "2112". ~BC "The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:01:09 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 Message-ID: blablablablalballballabllalbla.... See it? Um, Derek, you feeling OK? :) ~BC "The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:03:50 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 Message-ID: In a post to the 'jam, Derek babbled: "blablablablalballballabllalbla.... See it?" Yeah, I see the repeating pattern, but I have no idea what it is supposed to mean. ~BC "The *ONLY* Webtv Ytsejammer (or the only one who admits it! :) "The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:18:26 +0200 From: Stefan Eriksson To: email_address_removed Subject: BP's Wakeman Message-ID: Now, here is a person who has 32 Wakeman albums, i.e. is nuts about the guy, and then looses all interest in Wakeman's next project because Trevor Rabin participates! What is this - a taboo game or an interest only in what names are on the cover of the albums you buy? What about the goddamn music?! Not that I think the Return To The Center of the Earth sounds like a particular good idea...but he is a bit short of good ideas, don't you think? Nah, enough flaming for today. Stefan >Now, onto Rick Wakeman. Kick ass. Yeah, I have been told he >doesn't write much, just keyboard parts to Yes songs... You mean, he didn't write much with Yes, because he's put out more than 50 albums and he writes everything on them! I have at least 32, and still a long way to go! Just recently I read about his 'Return to the Center of the Earth': one of the guest musicians is (saddly for me) Trevor Rabin! It seems that they got along fine on stage during the Union tour, jamming together. Anyway, I don't like TR, so I've lost all interest in RttCotE. BP Now Playing: Zebra-Zebra ______________________________________________ Stefan Eriksson e-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:19:24 +0200 From: "Jason T. Breitweg" To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: CDs for sale Message-ID: Hi all, I have cleaned out some of the CDs that I don't really listen to anymore. Ok, I don't have prices on these things yet but I thought that I would put the list out there to see if anyone is interested in anything. Of course I would prefer to sell them to Germans since the postage costs would be minimized. Here is the list, of course everything is in mint condition: Abstrakt Algebra - Abstrakt Algebra Accept - Death Row Arch Rival - Third Degree Burns Axxis - Kingdom of the Night Battlefield - Spirit of Time Black Sabbath - Paranoid Black Sabbath - Sabotage Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire/King of the Dead Deep Purple - The Battle Rages On... Dickinson, Bruce - Tattooed Millionaire Dokken - Dysfunctional Dokken - Shadowlife Doro - Love Me in Black Echolyn - As the World Sampler Enertia - Momentum FronTears - Dream Healer Galactic Cowboys - Space in Your Face The Gathering - Mandylion Iron Maiden - Virtual XI Jag Panzer - Dissident Alliance Leatherwolf - Leatherwolf Lethal - Poison Seed Lord Bane - Age of Elegance Lordian Guard - Lordian Guard Loudness - On the Prowl Magellan - Impending Ascension Magnum - Wings of Heaven Marshall Law - Metal Detector Masquerade - Surface of Pain Metallica - 08/13/94 Woodstock, NY Metropolis - Behind Mysterious Walls Mind Odyssey - Keep it all Turning Mordred - In This Life Nevermore - In Memory Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy Osbourne, Ozzy - Live & Loud Powers Court - Powers Court Pretty Maids - Spooked Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow Psychotic Waltz - Bleeding Riot - Fire Down Under Riot - Thundersteel Riot - Inishmore Samiam - Capsized Sinner - Germany Rocks - The Best Of Skyclad - Irrational Anthems Slayer - Divine Intervention Soul Cages - Soul Cages Stormwitch - Priest of Evil Stream - Nothing is Sacred Threshold - Extinct Instinct Tiamat - The Astral Sleep Tiamat - Clouds Tiamat - The Sleeping Beauty - Live in Israel Tiamat - Wildhoney Venom - Cast in Stone Viper Brazil - Evolution Viper Brazil - Live: Maniacs in Japan Visionary - Visionary Warlord - Best of Warlord Widowmaker - Blood and Bullets Widowmaker - Stand by for Pain Y&T - Contagious -- Jason T. Breitweg Jason.Breitweg@desy.de http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg ICQ# 7495933 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Legal question Message-ID: I have a serious question here. I'm in the process of writing a story based on an original Transformer I have recently created. I want to base the story on ACOS, and I need to know how far I can go with it without pissing off the band or their legal friends. This will also effect a plot I have based on Metro Pt 1 (and 2 once its released). In both cases, I would like to quote directly from the lyrics. I will be doing the usual disclaimer (as I need to put one in the story to keep from pissing off Hasbro). Is any of this going to be a problem? Mike? Derek? ~BC, creator of the Autobot, "Ytsejam", and as always, the only Webtv Ytsejammer "The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:35:50 -0500 From: Cassiano To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Cool Derek stuff and Ytsetee's Message-ID: AL wrote: > > I think I've mentioned this before... > Listen to Trail Of Tears just after 5:30 as Labrie starts with "Hidden by disguise, > stumbling in a world." Derek does some cool shit under Labrie's vocals. > That part gives me goose bumps. > Does anyone else here get a rush out of this part? Actually I like more of that pretty little solo that comes just *before* that part. Awesome!! Definitely my favorite Derek moment in DT. []'s Cassiano ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:44:36 -0500 From: Cassiano To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: > > blablablablalballballabllalbla.... > See it? Is this guy a clone or what?? Weird... Cassiano ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:47:08 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-18 07:34:43 EDT, you write: << >Moral: The bands get no royalties this way. Way to go. how do you figure that? SOMEONE bought them new. They don't get any royalties FROM YOU, i suppose... but it's not like you're buying the CD illegally or sumfin. Moo. >> Here is what I do. I check out the used stuff and if I really really like it I get it new that way the band does get the royalties they deserve. Later, Bassgrrl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:50:31 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-18 07:34:43 EDT, you write: << Are any of the girl jammers musicians? >> Yep, I be a bass player. Later, Juli ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:05:33 +0200 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: This guy Derek...! Message-ID: > > blablablablalballballabllalbla.... > > See it? > > We do. Please, cut the crap and so the thing you're good at - play the keys (not the computer's)! > > Good wishes anyway, > > GL of Sweden Heeeey, Geddy! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! peace, Derek :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:04:31 +0100 From: Per Pettersson To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: German friend selling CD's Message-ID: <98Aug18.150047gmt+message_id_removed.se> > Accept - Death Row /.../ > Iron Maiden - Virtual XI I do understand why you don't want to keep them! > Magnum - Wings of Heaven That, I do NOT understand... >:-( GL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:10:44 +0100 From: Per Pettersson To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Yowzza! Saw somethin' extraordinare Message-ID: <98Aug18.150657gmt+message_id_removed.se> ><< Are any of the girl jammers musicians? >> > > Yep, I be a bass player. > Later, > Juli Holy smoke! A female bass player... AND 'jammer!? Folks, I think we've = found a person who belongs to the ultimate minority on the face of the = Earth! Will you marry me? :-) GL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:13:40 +0100 From: Per Pettersson To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Dammit! I'm on with my real name! Message-ID: <98Aug18.150952gmt+message_id_removed.se> *blush* I hate it! That's why I use aliases all the time. GL or Per Pettersson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:22:50 +0100 From: Geddy Lee To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Derek, my boy... Message-ID: <98Aug18.151902gmt+message_id_removed.se> > Heeeey, Geddy! > > SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! > > peace, Derek :) Uh-huh... Heeeey, Derek, my little friend... your tongue will go black if you say ugly words! :-) Peas, fleas, knees, niece... peace, I mean. GL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:31:19 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" To: Subject: RE: VAN HALEN CONCERT? WHAT VAN HALEN CONCERT? Message-ID: <000401bdcaac$7be82900$message_id_removed> email_address_removed wrote: > > Howdy boys and girls! > I just thought I'd ask anyone out there about the latest Van > Halen tour. > The VH Labor Day gig in Somerset Wis. was cancelled, presumably because of > crappy ticket sales. A local DJ even said that they only sold about 2000 > tickets!! Have there been a lot of cancellations? If not, have > the shows any > of you may have seen had really bad attendance? Any news is appreciated. > Jam on! JK > There have been stories all over the net of Van Halen cancelling shows due to poor ticket sales. %50 of the european tour was cancelled because of some injury Alex sustained while a drop ceiling fell on him. I don't know if I really believe that too much. It's convenient that Alez got hurt when Van Halen were having trouble filling %20 of a venue. I mean, drop ceiling???? Give me a break....I could throw 5 drop cieling panels on someone and it wouldn't hurt....oh well...who am I to judge! Getting back to the States, Van Halen has been received with very mixed emotions. Apparently, there have been sections of the US that simply can not sell tickets. This has forced Van Halen to give tousands of tickets to radio stations instead of selling them. I've been told by misguided Van Halen supporters that this is simply because times-are-a-changing. You know, Van Halen has changed and people don't like change. I don't know if you can make it that complicated. We can get very simple here: -- People don't like the album -- It's not selling at all -- People have reservations about seeing a band support a crappy album -- people simply do not go to the shows. Now having said all of that, I saw Van Halen with Gary Cherone at Madison Square Garden this past May and the place was sold out. So was Jones Beach Theater (on Long Island) this past Saturday. I only attended the May concert because I thought it sucked. Folks, I've been to more Van Halen concerts than you can shake a stick at....and this past one was the worst one I have ever been to. It's not about change.....it's just plain old bad!!!! That's why I didn't go to the show at the beach.......Who knows.....maybe New York is one of those markets that Van Halen is thriving in. M O J O M A N ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss To: we be ytsejamming Subject: Re: Re: on varied subjects (mostly fave moments) Message-ID: I come back from a well-deserved break and find myself maligned. Suddenly, it appears the organ has ceased to be a keyboard instrument. Well, just slap me with a 16' Stop. I guess it's a wind instrument, hmmm? (That for all you novices is sarcasm at its finest.) Well since you didn't like my opinion on Tony Kaye, I shall be forced to subject you all to another round of "Paul's Opinionated Corner" and fling out a couple more faves, bespattering you all with electronic residue. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Richard Wright: Sheep Ken Hensley: July Morning Clive Nolan: In the Blink of An Eye What about fave guitar moments (see what this keyboard thread can spawn?) Tom Scholz: Peace of Mind Frank Zappa: Watermelon in Easter Hay Jeff Beck: Ballad of Bill Hubbard Drum moments? Chester Thompson: Inca Roads Bill Bruford: Discipline Flute moments? Ian Anderson: Rare and Precious Chain Peter Gabriel: The Knife Bass moments: Tony Levin: Secret World Dude from Primus: Amos Moses Horn section moments? Chicago: Beginnings Tower of Power: What is Hip? EWF: Paperlate This can of course be carried into absurdity-say fave singer strangling a note moment (Bruce Dickinson-Run to the Hills (on A Real Dead One)), etc. NB-this is not meant as encouragement, merely to demonstrate the lengths to which this thread can be taken. Enjoy. NP: Arena-The Visitor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's thought for the Month: We all came out to Montreux... ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4193 **************************