YTSEJAM Digest 4183

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: to DAMON
 by "BassicRob" <email_address_removed>
  2) Re: sounds like an afuista
 by "earthblind, starbound" <email_address_removed>
  3) DT Cover Band Project
 by "Shane Woolcock" <email_address_removed.au>
  4) The End of Rush? NOOOOOO!!!!!
 by "Steven Dob" <email_address_removed>
  5) price killers
 by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
  6) What the fuck!
 by AL <email_address_removed>
  7) UBL Bullshit!
 by AL <email_address_removed>
  8) Re: Musings
 by AL <email_address_removed>
  9) You're kidding me.......
 by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
 10) Re : Gary Hoey Clinics
 by RJEN@isma.co.uk
 11) A few Corrections...
 by "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
 12) Re: DT Cover Band Project
 by Rogerio Brito <email_address_removed.br>
 13) Please help me
 by David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it>
 14) Re: YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 by "TheCowGod" <email_address_removed>
 15) Poor Little Deed (NDTC)
 by Kevin Madden <email_address_removed>

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:58:10 -0400
From: "BassicRob" <email_address_removed>
To: "ytsejam" <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: to DAMON
Message-ID: <01bdc740$22af7380$3d6ba698@rob>


<<<< So, Derek, ... teach me. Show me the way. Hell,
man, I interviewed you, I defended you to the hill, and I played DT on my
radio show for years, well at least since somebody introduced them to me
in 1995. <grin> OK, maybe I am being ridiculous. But still, ...
  >>

   Damon, perhaps we can work something out in the future.  E Mail me. >>

Man! The day when I will die is the day John Myung joins the 'jam and says,
"Hey Rob, if you want bass lessons just e-mail me. Maybe we can work
something out."
  Damn, you are a lucky SOB Damon. If i work for u then........  :)

   -Rob, email_address_removed      ICQ# 15762800
             email_address_removed
DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566

"What are you watching?"  
"Children's programming."  -Clerks  (1 of my favs!)




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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:20:58 -0400
From: "earthblind, starbound" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: sounds like an afuista
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


!  GUYS!!!  Go and take a remedial course in English humour!!  Don't you
>know that smileys are for unthinking lazy people!!  Heaven save us from
>people who take everything literally.

First, the 'gullible' joke and then this.  Hmmm.  I prefer this
traditional afu explanation:

smileys:print :: laughtrack:television.

   - Against a Sickness: To the Female Double Principle God
     http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:30:38 +0930
From: "Shane Woolcock" <email_address_removed.au>
To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <email_address_removed>
Subject: DT Cover Band Project
Message-ID: <004001bdc751$3efba700$839017cb@shane>


Hi all,
Theres now a mailing list for the cover band.
If you want to part of it, subscribe to the Dream Theater Cover Band Project
by sending a message to this address:
email_address_removed
or you can post a message to the rest of us at
email_address_removed

Always open for suggestion!!
Shano

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"Is it Fabio or Flabio?" - MP, DT
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:40:19 PDT
From: "Steven Dob" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: The End of Rush? NOOOOOO!!!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


A severly depressed Rush Fanatic wrote from his bed of tears:

     The news that there may never be anymore Rush sent me into a 
spiralling depression the likes of which I may never recover from. I've 
been listeneing to them since Permanent Waves, seen them on every tour 
since Moving Pictures (incliding 5 nights in a row at Radio City), and 
to read that they may be defunct . . . well, that is the worst news I 
have ever . . . EEEEEEEEVER . . . heard in my life. Never again will I 
be able to spooge myself when i buy domething totally brand new from 
Rush. No more goofy  bits in the liner notes ("Brought to you by the 
letter . . .), no more in the "Gangster of Boats" trilogy, NO MORE 
RUSH!!! I am so lost thinking about this. I can only pray to the gods 
that they do not end this way. They need to go out in the proverbial 
Blaze of Glory. Alas, thought, it looks like that may not happen. <sigh>

Brachett is seriously unhappy about this



Steven G. Dob - Wolf in absentia

"Sieze the day and don't you cry
Now it's time to say good-bye
Even thought I'll be gone
I will live on"

A Change of Seasons . . . 'Nuff said


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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:32:26 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: price killers
Message-ID: <35D482BA.2A52@fh-niederrhein.de>


Hi everyone

I've just recievd Rising Sun's new mail order cataloge.
There are some really interesting CD's with good prices (for a limited time):

100 % price killer :

EMPTY TREMOR - APOCOLOKYNTOSYS				15 DM / 8,5 $ <-- what a offer !

Angra - Angels Cry					15 DM / 8,5 $
Angra - Holy Land					15 DM / 8,5 $
Angra - Holy Live 6 track EP				10 DM / 5,5 $
Angra - Freedom Call EP					10 DM / 5,5 $
Angra - Lisbon brand new maxi CD			14 DM / 8 $
Angra - Fireworks (limited digipack)			30 DM / 17 $
Angra - Fireworks + bonus track Japan			45 DM / 25 $
Athena - A New Relegion feat Rhapsody's singer		27 DM / 15 $
Bruce Dickson - The Chemical Weding (new album)		30 DM / 17 $
Dream Theater - Hollow Years Japan 6 track EP		30 DM / 17 $
Enchant - Break limited edition + bonus track		27 DM / 15 $
Liquid Tension Experiment - LTE prog/fussion 		25 DM / 14 $
Magnitude 9 - Chaos To Control				27 DM / 15 $ 
Yngwie Malmsteen - Concerto Suite Japan			45 DM / 25 $
Platypus - When Pus Comes To Shove 			30 DM / 17 $
Prime Time - The Unknown inc members of Royal Hunt	27 DM / 15 $
Royal Hunt - 1996 live 2CD superb live album		40 DM / 22 $
Savatage - From The Gutter To The Stage limited  2CD 	32 DM / 18 $
Shadow Gallery - Shadow Gallery				22 DM / 12,5 $
Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone			22 DM / 12,5 $
Stratovarius - SOS brand new maxi CD			13 DM / 7 $

If you live outside Europe, you can email Rising Sun and ask for the postage.
They accept credit cards (VISA, Eurocard, Mastercard).

Please be so kind and make a good recomandation for Empty Tremor regarding their
next album . Thank you very much.

Rising Sun's email : rising.sun@t-online.de
They have also a web page but it's not up to date : http://www.digital-design.de/rising-sun/

NP : Exprolers Club - The Age Of Impact

Arash
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 04:41:05 -0500
From: AL <email_address_removed>
To: retaehT maerD <email_address_removed>
Subject: What the fuck!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


       The UBL completely cleaned Dream Theater off the site.
Even a search by band turns up nothing!   I think someone got pissed.
Se if you can find anything...    http://www.ubl.com/
This sucks.

--
See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist

Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
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Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your
groin unprotected.    - Red Buttons



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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:00:08 -0500
From: AL <email_address_removed>
To: retaehT maerD <email_address_removed>
Subject: UBL Bullshit!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I managed to sneak in the back door of the UBL using the Album search.
I found this drivel in the bio section.

"After being dropped by MCA following the failure of their 1989 debut album,
vocalist Charlie Dominici quit the band, and it appeared doubtful that they would
be able to make it."

What a bag of shit.
--
See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist

Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html
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Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your
groin unprotected.    - Red Buttons



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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:25:00 -0500
From: AL <email_address_removed>
To: retaehT maerD <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: Musings
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Neil Gallop wrote:
>Thought for the day: why does a man's scrotum look twice as old as
>the rest of him?
Um, Neil...  Just how many have you seen?   One would assume plenty, in
order to make that "observation."     Clarify, boy!
Do you have mirrors on the floor?

Gee, I hope he doesn't work in a nursing home.    <grin>

--
See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist

Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
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Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your
groin unprotected.    - Red Buttons



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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:26:09 +0100
From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
To: email_address_removed
Subject: You're kidding me.......
Message-ID: <80256660.0038541B.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk>


Guys & Gals help me.....

I've just been enlightened that Mike Bahr is not a member of DT and Derek
Shenanigan is not a bootleg cd dealer.........
SHOCK HORROR

I suppose this is sweet revenge for humble little me after being flamed
rather substantially over my "Mike Portnoy is not actually a god but a
great drummer and padre to the fans" jam.

Just how gullible can people be ? Well we'll see as I take it on as my
mission over the coming months to subtly check the IQ and perception of
jammers.

Here's a quick tester-------

Man that Kevin James Petrucci's lead vocals suck on the DREAM THEATRE (!)
album "When Dreams are Falling wide Awake into an Infinity of Words and
Seasons at the Marquee".

OK how was that ?

But seriously folks I am seriously looking at my finances at the moment and
wondering how generous the bank manager will be upon my request for funds
for about 10 new CD's
Platypus, AOI, DT live (+video), Queensryche?(oct), Kings X Tape Head,
Poundhound (Jerry Gaskill), Chroma Key, Ty Tabor solo

Best recent purchase......Apollo440 theme from Lost in Space,  man this
track is made to be played at Volume 10 in a small terraced house with thin
walls......


Ytsehugs

Steve the Tester



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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:38:25 +0100
From: RJEN@isma.co.uk
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re : Gary Hoey Clinics
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.co.uk>


Phil,

Consider yourself fortunate you were able to see one of my erstwhile
"guitar heroes".

I just can't stand living in the UK when all around the US tours and
clinics are happening that I would kill to get to. I can't believe how
much whingeing you yanks do when you say the group in question isn't
coming to within a couple of hundred miles of you. I've been waiting for
loads of American Prog Rock bands, Metal bands, and solo guitarists to
commit to touring in this country.

The guitarists may do a clinic or two - we had Paul Gilbert here
recently - but they are not publicised greatly or held during the
evenings or weekends and are in small music shops which can hold less
than 50 people. An unbearable situation for any fan who works full time.

I'm better of than I was a few years ago because I now live in London
which has a livelier gigging scene than any other city in the UK, but
the artists I want to see never come to the UK anyway.

Anyway, griping over, I'm still trying to get me hands on some of the
earlier Gary Hoey CDs (Ho Ho Hoey, Bug Alley etc) as well as the Heavy
Bones album he appeared on. Does anyone have these and think they could
give an unbiased review ?

Cheers,

Rhys.

N.P. Thunder - Laughing On Judgement Day


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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:24:00 -0400
From: "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <email_address_removed>
Subject: A few Corrections...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hey jammerz.

	I'd like to bring to your attn these little corrections or bits
of of info.. whatever you might wanna call it..

Brian "Tee Funk" Henderson wrote:

>Anyway, the story I overheard was that Ian Paice, Deep Purple's
drummer,
ate three cheesesteaks earlier that day, and they were severley not
agreeing with him.  This might've been a joke, sure, but it seems like a
likely enough story.  My question is -- why couldn't DP have had Carl
Palmer or Mike Portnoy fill in on drums?  Either one of them could
*EASILY*
play DP's songs.  Mike especially, since he grew up on the stuff.
Probably
not too great from a legal point of view, but still, that's better than
sending a stadium of people packing.<

=-=-

In case some of you might not know.. Mike emailed me the following...

Gary,
As of now, the rest of the tour is scheduled to go as scheduled.
However, We have no control over Ian Gillian's voice!  : )
C-ya next week,
Mike Portnoy
=-=-

so it's not the drummer.. but the singer who is ill.. but let's just
keep on fingers <or toes or what else?) that no more shows are
cancelled! =)

****************

Correction #2..

Matt Stanich wrote:

>The title is "Different Stages" (formerly "Dimlit Stages For All
Ages"),
and is due for release on October 6th. This will be a 3-cd set: the
first 2 cd's will be material from Rush's past two tours, the last cd
will be a show recorded from the "A Farewell To Kings" tour -- the
Hammersmith Odeon in London (February 1978).

Some tracks that have been confirmed as making the album (these are not
in any order, and this is not the complete listing):

2001 * Dreamline * Test For Echo * Bravado * Limelight * Resist * 2112 *
Leave That Thing Alone * Driven * Stick It Out * Animate * Nobody's Hero
* Show Don't Tell * Drum Solo * Tom Sawyer * Cold Fire * Half The World
* Roll The Bones * The Analog Kid * Natural Science

Some tracks that are still being considered:

Red Barchetta * Freewill * Ghost Of A Chance * Vital Signs * Limbo * The
Pass

The partial track listing of the 1978 show:

Something For Nothing * Cygnus X-1 * Cinderella Man * A Farewell To
Kings * Working Man * In The Mood<

 -*--*-*

This has been updated to... (Official final set list)

Disc #1

     2001/Dreamline / Limelight / Driven / Animate / The Trees /
     Closer To The Heart / Bravado / Nobody's Hero / 2112

Disc #2

     Test For Echo / Freewill / Roll The Bones / Stick It Out / Resist /
     Drum Solo / Natural Science / Leave That Thing Alone /
     The Spirit of Radio / Tom Sawyer / YYZ

Disc #3 (Feb 1978)

     Bastille Day / Bytor & The Snow Dog / Xanadu / A Farewell To Kings
/
     Something For Nothing / Cygnus X-1 / Anthem / Working Man / Fly By
Night /
     In The Mood / Cinderella Man

Unfortunately, it looks like the more "interesting" tracks (Cold Fire,
The Analog Kid) didn't make the cut. But, we get another great rendition
of "Tom Sawyer"! *sigh*

I've also heard that a box set might be in the works, with the tracks
that
didn't make the live album (Vital Signs, Ghost Of A Chance, Half The
World,
The Pass, The Analog Kid, Double Agent, Show Don't Tell)

=-=-

Hope this helps...

Gary





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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:37:58 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <email_address_removed.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: DT Cover Band Project
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.br>


On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Shane Woolcock wrote:

> Theres now a mailing list for the cover band.

	Yes, it's <email_address_removed.br> and, to subscribe, you
should send an empty message to <email_address_removed.br>
with subject "subscribe".

> If you want to part of it, subscribe to the Dream Theater Cover Band Project
> by sending a message to this address:
> email_address_removed
> or you can post a message to the rest of us at
> email_address_removed

	Perhaps you didn't pay attention to the last jams, where I told
about this project (It was what? One or two days ago that I posted about
it).

	Anyway, you're duplicating the efforts. And we already have people
designed to do many things. We're only waiting for admissions (Matt is
taking care of admissions). And we have a homepage with the current state
of the project (Peter Tatischev is taking care of this part). Swifty is
taking care of maintaining the archives of the list.

> Always open for suggestion!!
> Shano

	Come and join our mailing list.


	[]s, Roger...

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:11:35 +0200
From: David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Please help me
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980814151135.00aa86e8@pronet.it>


Could someone tell me privately how to unsubscribe to the list.Tomorrow
I'll go to holidays and I can take the subscription for now........

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:16:59 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <001b01bdc78e$34f1fec0$message_id_removed>


|and 27 in South America with Van Halen. There may also be a few
|additional headlining shows in South America, Mexico and Puerto Rico.
|
|OH YEAHHHHHH time has FINalLY COME  CowGOD!!!!!!!!!
|ohhhhh pleaseee let it be trueeeee

oh please let it not be true - i'm gonna be in college in SC then and
you're sure as hell not getting to see them without me :) damnit, my luck.
18 years i live here, they don't come here. the year i leave, they decide,
"yeah, i guess we'll play puerto rico." fuck em. DT sucks. :) Moo.


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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:30:51 -0400
From: Kevin Madden <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Poor Little Deed (NDTC)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>From: Deedlit <email_address_removed>
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: bye
>Message-ID: <message_id_removed>
>I'm unsubscribing from the jam because of family problems and it's not
>like I have a reason to be on here anymore.  I'm sure you won't miss me.
>Bye,
>Erica

Ok, I have had enough. Is there a more pathetic being on this
list than Deed? EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME she says something
it has the "I feel so sorry for myself, nobody likes me" vibe
oozing out. Get a fucking clue. If YOU don't like yourself,
and if the glass is ALWAYS half-empty, NO ONE ELSE is going to
give a damn either. She's like the fat lady who keeps saying,
"I am sooooo fat" in the hopes that someone will say, "no, you
aren't." Argh. It was bad enough on the #jam, when you couldn't
say anything to her without her going off in a huff, but this
takes the cake. If we don't agree with her, we hate her.
Fine. Go away. I cannot stand self-loathing. I am quite sure
there is a wonderful girl somewhere in there, but I am sick
of trying to find it.

CD of the Day: Deep Purple - Abandon

Kevin Madden <email_address_removed>

Detroit Red Wings 1996-97, 1997-98 Stanley Cup Champions


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