YTSEJAM Digest 4116 Today's Topics: 1) Platypus.. by Dave Ware 2) Re: Matt Bradley by "Pat Reyes" 3) Re: Sad Songs by email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) 4) Unleashed in the Reference Guide by Kevin Madden 5) AOI, FS: Various CDs by Joseph Kostura 6) this sad song thread.. by email_address_removed 7) Re: realism of combat by "earthblind, starbound" 8) Lemur Voice by Brian Hansen 9) Re: realism of combat by TheCowGod 10) Believe sad?/Once In A Livetime by Matt Smith 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4114 by "Richard A. Rivera" 12) Magna Carta's URL ? by email_address_removed 13) Looking for Blues Saraceno discs (NDTC) by Chris 14) October Project; Movies by "Thomas Forcier" 15) Re: Magna Carta's URL ? by Rogerio Brito 16) Re: Spooky Songs by email_address_removed 17) Iced Earth bootlegs by Justin James 18) To Richard Douwes: Beware of Buma/Stemra by Big Swifty 19) Re: Lemur Voice by Syrinx 20) Re: To Richard Douwes: Beware of Buma/Stemra by Rogerio Brito ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:21:37 -0500 From: Dave Ware To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Platypus.. Message-ID: Hi, Just got round to downloading the Platypus song - and it's excellent (except that the start just got me singing that Metallica song off Load...). I have a concern though... I guess Kings X are bigger than DT, bigger fan base etc... what happens if Platypus does really well and the chance of another offering/tour comes along. Where does that leave DT, I mean - you wouldn't blame JM and DS for being tempted by some bigger money, I know when I was in a band (desperate to make it and never quite achieving it) I would have given a great deal of thought to a better offer. That's not to say that DT aren't getting places but they're not exactly huge. hmmmm.... Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:24:43 -0700 From: "Pat Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Matt Bradley Message-ID: <010d01bdbb37$568e3e80$message_id_removed> If you wanna hear more of Matt Bradley, then you'll want to buy Dali's Dilemma "Mainfesto for Futurism" after it's released. He's all over the place on this CD! Your friend, Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:16:00 +0200 From: email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sad Songs Message-ID: On last night's rather sad episode of the Ytsejam, KorgX3 shed a tear over: >Standing Alone, Tyketto DAMNIT!DAMNIT!DAMNIT!How could I forget that? One of the few ballads I REALLY like. Actually, I like the whole album. Pity Danny Vaughn left, though. The first two albums were great, but the third really sucked (IMO). Anyway, one more sad song coming up: Visions by Living Colour Uh, make that two: I believe in you by Y&T And one more weird song: Humans Being by Van Halen (weird vocals!!!) Also make that two: The Phone-call by Joe Satriani (ditto) FiveNgroK CP: Fates Warning - Parallels NU: Tyketto - Don't Come Easy (LOOOOOOOOONG time no hear !!!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:29:29 -0400 From: Kevin Madden To: email_address_removed Subject: Unleashed in the Reference Guide Message-ID: >Vocal Department: >a. Rob Halford on Judas Priest's 'Unleashed in the East', intro to >Sinner: "You're in for a surprise, you're in for a shock!" That would be "The Ripper" CD of the Day: King Diamond - Them Kevin Madden Detroit Red Wings 1996-97, 1997-98 Stanley Cup Champions ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:40:53 -0700 From: Joseph Kostura To: email_address_removed Subject: AOI, FS: Various CDs Message-ID: Greetings all! Picked up my copy of AOI yesterday. After listening to it 4 times through now, I've got a few brief comments; more will come later. First off, it's hard not to compare the album to LTE given the same record company, same type of idea. I like Impact 1 and 3 the best so far. Bret Douglas on track 1, well isn't my idea of the best vocalist in the world. I'll agree that James or Matt should've had this one. But the musical ideas on Impact 1 are well executed. Same with track 3. With the rest, here's where I compare it to LTE. The songs on LTE are just more melodic and flowing to me. That's what comes from creativity and inspiration. AOI sounds very similar throughout, I realize they repeat some themes, but LTE has a different "groove" for each track. So where some are commenting that AOI is more cohesive, I would argue that cohesive translates (to me) as a little stilted. Next up: CDs for sale. Please note that prices include shipping in the continental 48 states, and that the CDs are in excellent condition. Symphony X-Twilight In Olympus $14 Symphony X-Divine Wings of Tragedy $14 Dream Theater- Hollow Years Single (4 trk German import) $8 Cairo-Cairo $10 Fates Warning-A Pleasant Shade of Gray $10 Tangerine Dream-Optical Race $10 Later, Joseph ========================================= Floridian by birth...Ytsejammer by choice ========================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:03:28 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: this sad song thread.. Message-ID: Ed sed: >Hmm.. okay, I've got some that I don't think I've seen yet.. >Savatage- When the Crowds Are Gone (Live, with Zakk and Jon swapping lines..) YES! >.. fuck.. almost ALL of "Streets" YESSSS!! Y'know, I was just listening to that yesterday...wowowowowowow.... how about "this isn't what we meant" off DWD, or "One Child.." that one sets me going always... Our Mickey fan spoke: >P.S. Some Type O Negative came to mind right away, but that fell >into the morbid category. I can't imagine why.... :) Gee.. But tell me if this is sick or not: I get so damn HAPPY listening to Type O. I mean, I got home from a long tiring day at work, and what I wanted to listen to to get me relaxed, was "Love you to death." I had a huge grin on my face! Am I really warped or sumfin? Also, Black No. 1 is great first thing in the morning, with the shades down...I think I scared my roommate at school there for a while. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:13:33 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: realism of combat Message-ID: >Am I the only one, or is this 'realism of combat' stuff weird? Combat = >scenes >would only be realistic if the actors didn't get up again after the take = >for the >simple reason that they were fucking dead, or had limbs missing, or were = >too >busy trying to stop their intestines falling out of openings that they = >didn't >have before the filming started. That, and only that would be realistic. You know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking, why don't we use terminally ill patients as stuntmen in movies. Now hear me out. I know you're thinking, how awful, but would you rather spend your last days in a hospital bed, watching yourself become weaker and less lucid until you died in agony, or would you rather be in the Movies? And think about the special effects! - "Trust no one. Kill everyone" (Milluminati Psycho). http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: Lemur Voice Message-ID: Once again, for anyone who hasn't seen this or is still sitting on the fence... Support Lemur Voice and help to get their new material released! Take a minute and send an e-mail (or snail mail) to the following addresses and inquire about a new Lemur Voice release. Tell your friends. Magna Carta: email_address_removed Metal Blade Records: email_address_removed or Metal Blade Records Inc. (Main Office) 2828 Cochran St. Suite 302 Simi Valley, CA 93065 Hotline: 805-522-7548 or Metal Blade Records GMBH (Europe) P.O. Box 1332 73054 Eisilngen, Germany _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:39:16 -0400 From: TheCowGod To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: realism of combat Message-ID: >You know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking, why don't we use terminally >ill patients as stuntmen in movies. Now hear me out. I know you're >thinking, how awful, but would you rather spend your last days in a >hospital bed, watching yourself become weaker and less lucid until you >died in agony, or would you rather be in the Movies? it'd be kind of hard to remember your lines (even "ahhhh!!" can be hard to do on cue) when you're in terrible pain, i reckon. But yeah, all you have to do is find a terminally ill patient who happens to look like a movie star. easy. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Smith To: Ytsejam Subject: Believe sad?/Once In A Livetime Message-ID: Supwitchall-- I haven't read every single sad song post so forgive me if any of this has been discussed before. As for Savatage's Believe, I find that song to be quite positive. Now, it would definitely be up near the top of any "most *emotional* songs" list, but I find it to be more uplifting than depressing. I'm sure I could come up with a hella huge list of sad songs, but the two that come to mind instantly are Metallica's Fade To Black and Orion. What can be said about Fade to Black? Simply the ultimate sad song. And Orion makes me think about Cliff :( As for the upcoming DT live 2CD, I'm more excited than anyone and will be first in line, no doubt. But, I have to agree with those who've said that Once in a Livetime is a really weak title. I mean, when I read that I thought it was some sort of joke. Very very lame, IMO; maybe between now and October they'll think of a decent title. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Album Currently Playing: Megadeth--Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Smith "We say revolution... email_address_removed With a cast-iron fist" -Mustaine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4114 Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > > I've just got to add Soundgarden's "Zero Chance" and "Tighter & Tighter" > to the list, plus the best toothache song, "Carry Stress In The Jaw" by > Mr. Bungle. Vai's "Tender Surrender" and Skid Row's "In A Darkened Room" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Couldn't agree more. I caught Bas's show in L.A. and he just fuckin' nailed that that song. Great lyrics too. R.I.P. Skid Row. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:32:30 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Magna Carta's URL ? Message-ID: Hello Everyone.... Could someone please send me Magna Carta's URL ? I seem to have lost it somewhere....Thanks in Advance..... less than a month Till DT/ELP/DP in Mn ! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:44:00 -0500 From: Chris To: email_address_removed Subject: Looking for Blues Saraceno discs (NDTC) Message-ID: Recently, you folks were listing some of your fav. CD's other than DT to listen to. Someone had Blues Saraceno on their list. I haven;t heard that name, or his music for that matter, for a long time and I figure it is time to get his discs. I ran into a problem tho. Neither, CDNow, CDConnection, CDUniverse, or MusicBlvd carry his cd's. CDNow did have some instructional video of his, but that ain;t what I want. My question is, is there another online shop that you folks know of that carry Saraceno titles. Thanx for any info you provide. Chris R. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:16:53 -0400 From: "Thomas Forcier" To: Subject: October Project; Movies Message-ID: Hello, >Anyway, someone recently tried to sell me on a band called October Project. Picture Annie Lennox's vocals combined with the music of Enya or Pat Metheny's Secret Story. The songs are typically sedate and mellow and they are psuedo-new age. I saw them live, but the albums sound electronic in the instrumentation. I recommend their first CD. Their second is less interesting, though I've only heard it a couple of times. As for our friendly Cow God's idea of sitting through two hours of special effects, I put this to you: how many times can you see New York destroyed and not get jaded? With ID4, Godzilla, Armageddon, Daylight and other dreck dominating the screens with repetitive destruction, truly great movies don't even get a chance in the cineplexes. So far, two of the best movies I saw this year never made it to the five cineplexes in my area (the flicks were The Spanish Prisoner and Last Days of Disco, btw). I had to drive an hour to my "local" art-house just to see them. I decry effects-laden pictures because of their lack of orignality and the self-importance of their dialogue. All these movies struggle to have some higher moral purpose and NEVER succeed in this endeavor. On the flip side of this, I have to admit that one "effects" movie did satisfy me this year: Deep Impact. It was about the characters involved, and not about the asteroid, unlike Armageddon. But the two best character-study movies I saw this year were both originally written by Elmore Leonard. Ten points to the jammer who can name them. The true test of any movie: when you're walking out of the theater, is your first thought to nitpick on something, anything in the film? If so, it was not a good film. Though it may have diverted you for two hours, you did not see a good movie. I found myself walking out of Armageddon angry that I had spent the time in the theater, even when I hadn't paid for it! And finally: yes, Braveheart was incredibly historically inaccurate. I'm a history major specializing in the English Constitutional era; this is the only place that major is remotely useful, though I won't pretend to be an expert. BUT, listen to the opening of the movie, for it tells you that what you are to hear is a LEGEND. The filmmakers were not trying to make a biography, they were striving for historical fiction. And who gives a shit how accurate the facts are: its still one of my ten favorites regardless. Stodgers spent more time in college watching movies than reading his history books... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:24:05 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Magna Carta's URL ? Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > Could someone please send me Magna Carta's URL ? I seem to have lost it > somewhere....Thanks in Advance..... www.magnacarta.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:32:53 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Spooky Songs Message-ID: << DT - TOWHTSTS (In the intro) >> The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun (GREAT one to acronym!!) i wasn't gonna add to this, but i would like to second this (for the purpose of having no originality) when the keyboard part comes in at about 1:15, damn, i love that, and the mood work from myung??? i'm not so good with determing instruments... but i really love this part, it stirs me up, for lack of a better term, PLUS the with all the hormones already goin, it is quite the emotional experience and since this has no sense of finality thus far, i suppose i should add some I Am Waiting by Yes off of Talk (i heard some of you didn't like this??) goddamn, THAT is the epitomy of emotion, also Endless Dream, a nice 15-16 minute song, probably my album favorite and Van Halen has some moving ones off of VH III, namely: ]From Afar, kinda angry/heavy, Once, VERY beautiful Josaphena, who cares if i spelled it wrong, bordering on sad, but great Year to the Day, possibly my fave off the album , heavy (in the intrumental sense) sadness and How Many Say I, rivaling Once for most beautiful song god i cant take this, (scurries off to room to indulge in aforementioned songs, and yet somehow manages to type the following:) Thanks for reading , in case any of you did! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:37:38 -0500 From: Justin James To: Heavy Metal List , Savatage List , Subject: Iced Earth bootlegs Message-ID: Does anybody know if there are any bootlegs of Iced Earth, preferably on cd? Thanks Justin James email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:28:53 -0500 From: Big Swifty To: email_address_removed Subject: To Richard Douwes: Beware of Buma/Stemra Message-ID: > From: Richard Douwes > > Is there anybody in the Netherlands that is willing to > tape/ copy to CDR some bootlegs for me? With all this talk > about bootlegs here on the list, I would really like to > listen to some of them, but I don't have any contacts > (yet..). Of course, I'll pay for your efforts. Be careful, Richard. I tried to trade with someone in the Netherlands a month or two ago, and Buma/Stemra opened the package I sent him, listened to the CD-Rs that were inside, and threatened him with fines and jail time if he was sent any more bootleg material. We think that it was because I sent 5 CD-Rs to him, but you can never be sure. Take care, and be careful, Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:48:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: Brian Hansen Subject: Re: Lemur Voice Message-ID: > Support Lemur Voice and help to get their new material released! I have good news from the LV camp. They are starting to record the follow up to Insights. When, Where, and How this will be released will be determined very shortly. As I get the information, i will pass it along. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 02:05:41 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: To Richard Douwes: Beware of Buma/Stemra Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Big Swifty wrote: > Be careful, Richard. I tried to trade with someone in the Netherlands a > month or two ago, and Buma/Stemra opened the package I sent him, > listened to the CD-Rs that were inside, and threatened him with fines > and jail time if he was sent any more bootleg material. We think that it > was because I sent 5 CD-Rs to him, but you can never be sure. Just curious, since I'm always trading (but have never actually traded with people from Holland): is Buma/Stemra an official organization? Of course, I'd like to avoid creating problems to my trading friends... []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4116 **************************