YTSEJAM Digest 4097 Today's Topics: 1) Learning DT by email_address_removed 2) o SOLO mio by email_address_removed 3) Sentenced/Alastis/Stuff by NGA 4) Vanden Plas by Manuel 5) Vanden Plas was Re: Eargasms for all! by Scott Luttringer 6) Re: Just my 2 cents on LTE by Matej Grginic 7) sigh by Pat Daugherty 8) Prog and the Radio by "Steven Dob" 9) Dickinson "Killing Floor" by Justin James 10) Bass & Drum work by Shai Yallin 11) Re: Just my 2 cents on LTE by "KorgX3" 12) Re: the fan club? autographs? by Mark Bredius 13) Re: Power of Omens (was: Awesome drums!) by Jon Parmet 14) re: Just my 2 cents on LTE by Brian Hansen 15) Explorers CLub LISTENING PARTY!!! by email_address_removed (Carlos Alfaro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:10:22 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: "INTERNET:email_address_removed" Subject: Learning DT Message-ID: I was just wondering what DT songs the musicians on the Jam learnt first. I started with YTSEJam, probably as it is one of my favourites, and have just started to jam with PMU (which I think I should have started with). I haven't studied the songs note for note or used a tab but rather jammed along with them, stopping to learn the bits that cause a problem and just having fun. Dave (The Drummer) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:50:16 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: o SOLO mio Message-ID: Bass solo: Money, Delicate Sound of Thunder, Pink Floyd.=20 Gitar solo: Comfortably Numb, P*U*L*S*E, Pink Floyd Keyboard/Synth/Piano solo: Space-dye vest, Awake, DT Drum solo! Polka you eye's out, Don't remember album, "Wierd Al" Yankowic= h.=20 Soul and humor that's my take.=20 Anyway I just picked one on each instrument, because "Prog or Die"-man as= ked for what you thought was best not all you could think of.=20 Just put those thoughts on my bill, I don't got any cents on me right now= =20 J=F8rgen Bakken 62 59 50 80=20 91 74 77 98=20 www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4 r+d>s TW 0/0/ FD - 0 DSoT 2 1 <21jul98> PFCode "But don't cut your losses too soon - 'cause you'll only be cutting your throat" 6:00 - Kevin Moore -Awake -1994 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:54:31 +0100 From: NGA To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Sentenced/Alastis/Stuff Message-ID: Hi all as promised, here are the reviews of the new albums by Alastis and Sentenced, together with some of the random thoughts that occasionally surface in the cesspit called my mind. ALASTIS - Revenge I was looking forward to this, and I was not disappointed. These guys have once again proven that the black metal scene in Switzerland is not limited to Samael. I can best describe this as atmospheric gothic black metal - none of the ultrafast stuff that you would get from bands like Ulver or Dissection. Wicked dark and heavy riffs form the canvas over which War D spreads his seemingly monotonous, almost hypnotic vocals. Strong pulsating drums drive the tracks along, and the melodic keyboards prevent everything from dropping into complete darkness. Parallels to Samael are obvious, yet Alastis are a little softer. Like their last album, this was also recorded at the Woodhouse studios by Waldemar Sorychta (see also Sentenced, Samael, The Gathering, Moonspell, Tiamat). My favourite track is possibly the instrumental title track, which is a great finish for the album. 9/10 SENTENCED - Frozen Another masterpiece from the Woodhouse studios with Mr. Sorychta once again tweaking the knobs and Birgit Zacher helping out with the female vocals. These guys from Finland have long left their death metal roots behind them, and are now a very solid dark metal band. This is the second album with Ville Laihaila singing, and it's in this department that the most changes are apparent. His singing style has become more mature and varied with a wider range. On the track "The Rain Comes Falling Down" he even sounds a bit like Geoff Tate before effortlessly slipping back into his normally gravely more aggressive style. Very listenable songs, nice solos that fit, very dark lyrics (just like on "Down"), good riffs and hook lines - there is nothing on this album that I would change. Nice touches of Amorphis, Paradise Lost and Nefilim, together with occasional oriental-sounding passages all help to make this album very enjoyable, definitely Sentenced and almost danceable (and a great burp on track 4). 9/10 Lemur Voice - I would like to see the band sign with Century Media. They are very good at picking up talented European bands and pushing them, also putting them out on the road in packages. Anybody else think this? Bass solos - why has nobody mentioned Chris Squire "The Fish" on Yessongs? I've been listening to this track on and off for 25 years now and it never ceases to amaze me. The live CD - I hope there is no blue on the cover. I've just decorated my bedroom, and any blue would simply clash with my new curtains. In fact, I won't even buy it if there is any blue on it. But really, some people on this list are just ungrateful - what, only a double CD? Why isn't my favourite song on it? Why aren't there signed tee shirts to go with it? Are you listening Portnoy? And why don't you give away cymbals at your drum clinics? Jeez, I paid 5 fucking dollars to come and see you, after all. How about refunding my petrol money? stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Rammstein - Sehnsucht "Take a squeegee to your third eye" - Bill Hicks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:08:29 +0200 From: Manuel To: email_address_removed Subject: Vanden Plas Message-ID: great that someone notices them! Watch out for their first "Colour Temple" as well, which in some songs is more straight forward, but there are killer tracks on that, too (Soul Survives, great soloing, crazy!!) "666 is no longer alone He=B4s getting out the marrow in your backbone And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll Gonna blow right down inside your soul." =20 (genesis, apocalypse in 9/8) DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:22:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Luttringer To: email_address_removed Subject: Vanden Plas was Re: Eargasms for all! Message-ID: > From: "Kez" > > Been there, done that. Get Rainmaker also. From Mosh's site. It kicks > MAJOR ass. > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com/audio_europe.html > > Then go to PendragonUSA and buy the CD(The God Thing) for the cheapest price > on the net(that I found). > http://www.pendragonusa.com/index3.html Or you could get it for 2 bucks less at: http://www.empireent.com/catalog.html You can also preorder the new Angra, Superior and Eldritch albums here too. > You will thank me for it. You're welcome. :) Scott P.S. The Green Lantern really does exist! :) ===================================================================== | "A dominatrix to the first degree | Rising Power | | She'd rather die before she'd set you free | feat. MIKE PORTNOY | | Hook, line and sinker is what she wants | 'Goddess of Pain | | A nasty bitch she's no debutante." | and Pleasure' | ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:41:11 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Just my 2 cents on LTE Message-ID: To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: sigh Message-ID: > Subject: Computer Security Requirements > Please disregard if this reaches the wrong recipients. Please email > back with REMOVE in subject. Thank you, Bob Jones > Robert F. Jones, President > Northstar Technologies, Inc. > 8455 Baltimore National Pike, Suite B > Ellicott City, MD 21043 This guy is literally like 10 minutes from me. Should I go and kick him in the head? There are quite a few jammers in the area. We should form a mob and pay him a visit... NP:Nazareth-Classics -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email : email_address_removed | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |===================================================================| | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" -- X-Files | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:59:34 PDT From: "Steven Dob" To: email_address_removed Subject: Prog and the Radio Message-ID: Typed on a bed of Arugula. . . There was a post made yesterday about a Radio show full of Prog. I LIKE this idea. As to how to go about it? I think we should get the Westwood One Radio network to do it. Does anyone know if they have an E-mail address or website? Innundate them with E-mail, phone calls, and letters (yes, i am suggesting using snail mail), and see if we can get them to produce a show. I think it could work. PROG FANS UNITE!!!!! Brought to you by the letter "Ph" th enumber "6 7/8" and the Bored (yes i spelled it this way on purpose) Arugula Growers Association. Brachett is who I am, most of the time Steven G. Dob - Wolf in absentia "Sieze the day and don't you cry Now it's time to say good-bye Even thought I'll be gone I will live on" A Change of Seasons . . . 'Nuff said ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:13:46 -0500 From: Justin James To: Heavy Metal List , Savatage List , Subject: Dickinson "Killing Floor" Message-ID: I just heard "Killing Floor" "Machine Man" , and "Chemical Wedding" off of Bruce Dickinson's upcoming album, "Chemical Wedding." KNAC live on the net broadcated it for the first time ever this morning, and I must say that it fucking rocks. It's in the same vein as Accident of Birth was. If you want to hear it you can tune into KNAC, and maybe you'll get lucky and theyll play them again. The address is http://knac.demonet.com, so check it out. Ok, now that I've made you all jealous I'll go now :) Justin James email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:29:49 +0300 From: Shai Yallin To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Bass & Drum work Message-ID: Hi there, Well, I think that this thread hasn't been discused latley or ever... What is your criteria for good bass work? for drum work? what drummers and bassists you think are the most talented? IMO, the best bass & drum work can be found @ Marillion CDs (esp. Fish-era ones). (Bassist) Trewavas doesn't exaggerates like many players (like Sheehan and Hamm) - he plays really good parts. Don't get stuck on the base note and don't play too fast. Even in the most commercial song - Kayliegh - he has some real good parts. (Drummer) Mosely has does some really cool things (like following the bass line on the hi-hat) and, too, don't overplay at all... What is your idea for good drum & bass playing? NP: Frank Zappa - Apostrophe Cheers, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin aka Kurush | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | ----------------------------------------------------------------- - BUT I GOT A KRYSTAL BOL! (Frank Zappa, Cosmik Debris, ') Check out the samples of me playing on my page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:32:09 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Re: Just my 2 cents on LTE Message-ID: <002c01bdb718$586d5420$4ff086cc@korgx3> >Is this chump asking for it or what? :) >Did he say musicianship? lacking? er... u sure >your CD isn't one of those AC/DC misprints? :) He does have a point. I love LTE for it's musical value, but if you pull your head out of your ass, you can tell the songs were written and recorded within a week. LTE is pretty much what I would call test tube songs. They just don't age well and lack that final polish that a nurtured and matured song possesses. The songs are great but given more time I think they could have been better. If the guys make a new one and spent say, a month, on it, I bet the songs themselves would be 10 times better. Just my 200 Yen. --KorgX3 thinks Mike Portnoy might agree. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:44:39 +0200 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: Re: the fan club? autographs? Message-ID: MEMKIL wrote : > The fan club section on Itchy's page needs to be updated. Check again... The info was updated 4 days ago. :) Here it is : _____ Dream Theater International Fan Club Headquarters address: D.T.I.F.C. PO BOX 1067, Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU, England Dear Dream Theater Fan, Thank you for your enquiry concerning the Dream Theater International Fan Club. The band and I have got together on this project to make things work smoothly, so that you, the important fan, get what you deserve: A reliable source and service of information, news and interviews, and I think you will find your association with the band and the Fan Club a very rewarding experience. FOR FANS IN NORTH AMERICA ONLY The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is $18. Payment to be in U.S.funds ONLY Because of a current problem with the New York side of the operation, the only way you can currently sign up is by sending payment in Dollars CASH ONLY to the Fan Club HQ address in England. Address above. FOR FANS IN THE REST OF THE WORLD The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is =A312. Send =A312 in the form of a UK cheque or International Money Order, made payable to: "YTSE JAMS" DO NOT make them payable to the Dream Theater International Fan Club, or DTIFC as you will have them returned to you unfulfilled! You may also pay in cash in Pounds Sterling Only, this is not recommended, and if payment is to be sent this way, it should always be sent by registered mail. Payment to be in UK Pounds Sterling only! Mail to: DTIFC PO Box 1067, Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU, England For your membership fee, you will receive an initial joining pack, which will include: * The latest issue of the quarterly magazine "Images And Words". This contains news, interviews, letters, and a chance for you the fans to ask the band questions. You will also receive a further three issue's as part of your membership, * a photograph of the band, * plus any additional items we have at the time (badge/sticker/etc.)=20 For back issue's of the magazine, please write to the HQ address in England. Copies are $3 each, including postage. #2,5 & 6 are sold out, but the majority up to #15 are still avaialble. Payment for back issue's must be in Dollars CASH, no checks, and must be sent to the HQ address in England. We look forward to welcoming you into the Dream Theater fold! Neil Elliott - Director of the Dream Theater International Fan Club. Please complete the details below, thanks. Name_________________________________________ Male * Female* Address______________________________________ = Birthdate*___/____/______ Address______________________________________ *optional Town/City____________________________________ Zip/Post = Code____________ State/County____________________________ = Country______________________________ =20 NOTE: Please read the instructions very carefully on where to send to, how much to pay, who to make it payable to etc. then things work out easier and smoother. Thanks! Neil _____ Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:16:16 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: Jam Subject: Re: Power of Omens (was: Awesome drums!) Message-ID: Adam wrote: > We just got in the new CD by progressive metal band Power Of Omens. If > you are into Mike Portnoy Of course, you meant to say "As" instead of "If", right? ;) > or Mark Zonder (Fates Warning), you've got to hear this CD. I have the $5 demo tape they had available...over a year ago, now. That was the first thing I noticed was the drummer stood out as being quite talented. Is the band still together? I thought I remember seeing a post months back about them splitting. Regards, Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------* "I slept with Faith, and found a corpse in my arms on awaking; I drank and danced all night with Doubt, and found her a virgin in the morning." - Aleister Crowley, "The Book of Lies" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: re: Just my 2 cents on LTE Message-ID: "AnathemA" challenged with: >Does anyone else agree with the thought that LTE just seems like everyone >is trying to play louder and faster than everyone else. Like a >competition. I personally didn't feel any emotion in the album. The songs >were great but I think the musicianship (which I KNOW all those players have) was lacking. >Any opposers? I may be confused here. What do you mean by "musicianship"? Do you mean that their "compositional" skills are not displayed? Or their actual "performance" is lacking? I thought that LTE was all about chops. They obviously didn't spend enough time to polish up any epic compositions, but the playing (performance) is all there. I'm not sure if I'm disagreeing with you or not... my $.02, BH _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:37:23 -0300 From: email_address_removed (Carlos Alfaro) To: email_address_removed Subject: Explorers CLub LISTENING PARTY!!! 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