YTSEJAM Digest 4096 Today's Topics: 1) Useless trivia for the day by Jay Omega 2) Mailing money overseas by email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) 3) Re: DT on Usenet/DT on Radio? by email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) 4) LTE Desktop Theme Now Available by "BassicRob" 5) re: Laser's Edge by Phil Carter 6) 7/19 Metallica Great Woods Show, New Angra by email_address_removed 7) Admission fee by Pasi Sundqvist 8) Portnoy Clinic Charges.. by email_address_removed 9) Re: the fan club? autographs? by Rogerio Brito 10) Re: Eargasms for all! by Rogerio Brito 11) Saviour Machine review by "Dale R. Newberry" 12) Saviour Machine by "Dale R. Newberry" 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4095 by email_address_removed 14) Re: Laser's Edge, etc. by "Younis Hilal" 15) Accidental Post. by "Erik 'Starblazer' Stearns" 16) no dream theater content by "Raivo Hool" 17) Just my 2 cents on LTE by "AnathemA" 18) FIRE SALE! RUSH, DREAM THEATER, QUEENSRYCHE High-Demand CDs by Michael Bahr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:04:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega To: Just Words Subject: Useless trivia for the day Message-ID: Just to break up the "my favorite instrumental" thread... OFB gets a mention in the current incarnation of the Jargon File (a collection of computer geek jargon, available both on the net and in printed form). Check it out (if you care) at http://www.netmeg.net/jargon/terms/m/music.html --Jay "must need a life, since he was reading the Jargon File" Omega --NP: Drain STH - Horror Wrestling ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:09:02 +0200 From: email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) To: email_address_removed Subject: Mailing money overseas Message-ID: On last night's episode of the Ytsejam you wrote: >OK, > > >In the event one of you out there are intending on renewing your membership >to send CASH to England. > >I don't know about any of you out there, but sending green backs over seas >seems a little risky and a bit of a crappy situation. > Here's a solution. Go to the post office and send Neil an International Money Order. Best and safest way to pay overseas. >If it wasn't such a cool investment, I would say the hell with it. But, it >would appear that my green bills will be travelling the deep Atlantic; One >way or another. > > > >-Jeff E. FiveNgroK CP: Rush - 2112 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:09:05 +0200 From: email_address_removed.be (Tony De Laender) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT on Usenet/DT on Radio? Message-ID: On last night's suspense-laden episode of the Ytsejam, Jon Parmet(email_address_removed) wrote: >Thought this portion of a thread I've been reading on Usenet would be of >some interest, if not amusement. Sorry but the expire on our server for >It seems that whenever Dream Theater is mentioned on r.m.P., it >invariably brings out some fairly heated debates about music in general. >It's as much of a battle for recognition and respect in there as it is >for the band in real life. Many of the self-proclaimed experts who post >there seem to feel the need to keep reminding the world that Dream >Theater is not progressive, labelling them 'Pop Rock', 'Popular Hard >Rock', just about anything without the word 'progressive' in it. Just a >guess, but I think the Balls 'N Chunk scares them :) > Yeah, I've been reading that too. Someone even had the balls to call LTE an 'empty sounding album' ! These guys obviously have no idea what progressive means. >It got me to thinking though (I know, I know, run and hide!). What if >the guys did a song that was just truly wrong. Some kind of >Death/Thrash/Black/Angst kind of song, with sick feedback/distortion, >Derek stabbing his keys Emerson style, John M shouting some obscenity, >Mike completely ruining a drum set, James growling. Forget about chops, >forget about complexity, just torture the electronics! You get the idea >:) Sounds like Oxiplegatz to me! > >Perhaps the title of the song could be "Too Much Spice, Girls" > Or Rotting Vindaloo? >This might get significant airplay. We're talking album sales here, >peeps! Pacify the machine by giving the appearance of selling out. Not >to worry, the rest of the disc would contain more conventional songs >like Metropolis II :) > I think they should release Metropolis Part II as a bonus-ep to the double live album, sort of make it a live-cd with added yummie :-) > FiveNgroK CP: Rush - 2112 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:33:33 -0400 From: "BassicRob" To: "ytsejam" Subject: LTE Desktop Theme Now Available Message-ID: <01bdb6a3$12b63f20$LocalHost@default> Hey Jammers My Liquid Tension Experiment Desktop Theme is now available for download at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566/ltetheme.htm It is a high color theme all about LTE for Windows including sounds, icons, wallpaper and cursors. Check it out. -Rob, email_address_removed ICQ# 15762800 DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:44:20 -0400 From: Phil Carter To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: re: Laser's Edge Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids.... After reading my story about CC taking longer than check at Laser's Edge, the Cow God remarked: >doesn't check take longer cuz it has to clear? maybe it was coincidence... >or the fact that it was 9 discs so it took a while to get em all, or >sumfin, i dunno. but i'm not too sure about credit card being SLOWER than >check. I am. I've ordered from Laser's Edge several times, and each time I've tried CC it takes longer. And the idea that 9 discs take longer to get them in is also off, because before ordering I call or email to confirm availability. Just a warning. Ken *does* eventually get the discs to you, and the prices are great, so if you can stand the wait.... Ta, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: E. Power Biggs -- "Bach: Great Organ Works" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:49:23 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: 7/19 Metallica Great Woods Show, New Angra Message-ID: Hey - Got an open question for anyone who can help.... are there any Jammers that were at this past Sunday's (7/19) Metallica Great Woods show? Especially, there was a guy sitting in the back bleachers next to me who had a Touring Into Infinity shirt on. I commented how cool your shirt was, and we struck up a DT-related conversation. I didn't get your name, nor did I find out if you were a Jammer (what can I say, I'm a retard sometimes).... if you, or anyone else is out there, please drop me a private e-mail. I was wondering what the final encore of the night was, since I left a little early to beat traffic. Thanks. Also, regarding the new Angra single everyone but me seems to have, is the acoustic version of "Make Believe" just the original studio recording with different instruments remixed, or is it a live acoustic recording? Additionally, where can someone get their hands on this single? Please point me in the right direction. Again, private e-mail would be fine. Thaingks....... Matt T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:12:26 +0300 (EET DST) From: Pasi Sundqvist To: email_address_removed Subject: Admission fee Message-ID: So Michael, Like, do you think 5$ is too much for seeing Mike on a drum clinic? It was the same charge in Finland a half a year ago and I can tell you it was well worth it. He told stuff that is not on his instuctional video and he played some incredible licks too... I valuate it well over 5$ and I'm happy to admit by such a low admission fee. I would have paid more just too see him and to get his autograph and to tell hin that he is the God in drumming... After the clinic in Finland Mike and John Petrucci wrote autocraphs for anyone who wanted them and talked to anyone and that was way cool! I think these guys really are Gods. Pasi Sundqvist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:47:12 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Portnoy Clinic Charges.. Message-ID: .. The $5.00 charge was the best $5.00 I ever spent. I just hope that it goes where it belongs... In Portnoy's pocket. J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:19:37 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: the fan club? autographs? Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, MEMKIL wrote: > The fan club section on Itchy's page needs to be updated. First of all, > it says that you get a signed photo of the band, but Neil had responded > with a negative for any signed material. Second, it says that you need > $15 to join, but the price is up to $18 now. Third and most importantly, > this address thing is pissing me off. There's no way in hell i'll send > anything overseas, and there's no way for me to rejoin the club. I'm not > the first to comment on this, and if there's anyone who could add > something to this, especially if you are currently in the club, please > do so. Thanks. Well, I also plan on subscribing to the Fan Club, but I'd like to have precise information on the address, fee and other details which I may have overlloked. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:35:39 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eargasms for all! Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Kez wrote: > Been there, done that. Get Rainmaker also. From Mosh's site. It kicks > MAJOR ass. http://progmetal.gmsnet.com/audio_europe.html Well, given Kez recommendation and a tape track sent by Ties Goebel in a tape/CD trade, I think that their CD "The God Thing" is at the top of my buying list... The next step is to find it... []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:07:45 -0500 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Saviour Machine review Message-ID: Okay, I must apologize for my severe lateness in doing a review of the SM show at Cornerstone a few weeks ago, but, well, I'm a lazy bastard :). Anyway, I had gotten to the tent they were playing at pretty early so I could be sure and get a good spot. As was the case last year when they played, the crowd was sitting, ready to take it all in. The band took quite a while to come out (the natives grew quite restless, too, but I had a good spot right in the center of the tent, and I had a lawn chair, so I was happy). Finally, the band did come out (about 30-45 minutes late) to much fog and some nicely eerie piano music. The stage set wasn't terribly elaborate (due to the small stage and the fact that they were playing in a large tent), but they made the best of it by hanging some flags and props about. The set list consisted entirely of songs from Legend 1 and 2. Since I don't yet have Legend 2 (that should change very soon), I can't really say what specific songs they played, but I didn't really care. It was just flat amazing. No noticeable technical difficulties (unlike last year), the band was tight and everything was on. One noticeable thing was that singer Eric Clayton wasn't wearing his usual black robes and whatnot. No, this time he was adorned in all white, which added a nice effect. There were some pyrotechnics, but nothing too elaborate. The crowd was totally into it, too. The band came back after finishing and pulled some older songs out for the encore (I think they closed that with "Legion"). It was definitely the best show of the fest, and one of the best I've ever seen. I highly recommend Saviour Machine to anyone who likes their music a little dark, a little heavy, and extremely emotional and passionate. Oh yeah, the band was selling their merch. like mad, too. They completely sold out of their copies of Legend 2 in something like 20 minutes, so, unfortunately, I was unable to snag a copy (I did get the "Behold a Pale Horse" single, though). Also, they are playing a show in the Chicago area on Halloween night this year. I can't find my flyer at the moment, but as soon as I do I'll post the info here. I am definitely planning on going to that show, too. Dale R. Newberry email_address_removed "I'm hip about time." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:35:43 -0500 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Saviour Machine Message-ID: Okay, I found the info for the Halloween show in the Chicago area. It's at the Wonderland Ballroom in Elgin, IL at 6:00 pm. Wedding Party and Rackets and Drapes are opening (never heard either, but WP is supposed to be somewhat along the lines of SM (Eric Clayton produced their album), and R&D are supposed to be kinda like Marylin Manson). Tix are $10 adv. and $12 at the door. For more info, go to http://www.edanconcerts.com. Dale R. newberry email_address_removed "I'm hip about time." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:32:33 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4095 Message-ID: Someone said something that looked like it might have been: > Eddie Van Halen: Jump wow, someone else thought of that. sorry I didn't post that one the first time around! anyways, I have a quick CD recommendation. Kevin Hearn, "Mothball Mint." Kevin's a Canadian artist who happened to recruit the bassist from Barenaked Ladies to play on his album (that's why I bought it). Anyways, if you like BNL, you'll like this album, and if you like prog, some of these songs really kick.... "oh glowworm" and "horizon" are two really good ones. ok, I'm done now. Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:50:29 +0000 From: "Younis Hilal" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Laser's Edge, etc. Message-ID: > From: Kevin Madden > Subject: Laser's Edge, etc. > > > wait about two months for each of the orders I placed. > He isn't going to rip you off, but you might wait awhile. Well...I had an experience similar to yours, and another one different from yours. LE definitely took their time with a large order that I charged to a credit card. Since then, though, I've ordered about 3 times, each time using a check/money order (and for orders of 3 CDs or less). LE gets those out pretty quick, about two weeks or so. I even got one about a week and a half after I mailed in the money order (and I live out in Calif). It's like that one dude said: the best way to go seems to be to call 'em up with your wish-list, reserve whatever they have in stock, and send in your money pronto. > > Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly > > Well, this is not as good as "Control and Resistance" - IMO. > The singing is not as good (Jason McMaster vs. Alan Tecchio), > the guitar-playing isn't as good (Billy White vs. Ron Jarozembek), > and the songs suffer. Overall, it's not too bad... hehe...not too bad:). I can't coment on the guitarists, but as for the vocalists, well, I think they're both terrible. I guess that wailing/screeching thing just kinda irks me. But this CD also features a bona fide shredder on bass in Keyser, and smokin' drumming from Colaluca. This CD impressed the hell out of me, purely because of those two. I can't believe shit like this was coming out back in '85. What the hell was I doing back then? I dunno, prolly playing with dog-turds. > > Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth [non-commital review deleted] I have similar feelings about this disc. I'd never heard any BG before and I bought it because I liked silmarillion, and HEY, the Sieges Even bassist is on it. I thought these guys were gonna be just like Iced Earth, but they aren't quite. They don't have a particularly heavy sound. I guess I'd call it something closer to thrash, even though it's not quite thrash either. It'll take me a while to form any final opinions about this CD, but it's not an instant favorite. Hey, if you're looking for a CD featuring super-technical wank-off sessions, buy something else, hehe. > Mercury Rising - Building Rome > [favorable long review deleted] I don't have anything by these guys, but I've gotten interested in them lately. Your post didn't say much about the instruments in the band (besides guitar, I mean). How are they? Chops galore? or is it more understated playing? and I guess, from your comments that building rome was their 1st CD. do I have that right? Younis email_address_removed AKA "YoonDog" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:46:58 -0500 From: "Erik 'Starblazer' Stearns" To: YTSEJAM Subject: Accidental Post. Message-ID: First of all, I wanted to appologize to those of you who recieved my testing post by accident. The situation is, every six months or so, I check email addresses that I haven't heard from in a while and send them a test message. Well, when I was putting this together, I got distracted and hit the send button with all the highlighted addresses including, by accident, mailing lists. OOPS!! In this case, those of you who recieved this message by accident, recieved it through the list and not directly by me. Some of you were rather P.O.'ed about this. Please accept my deepest apologies and this explanation. Yours truly, Erik Stearns -- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he." -- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress Erik Stearns StarBlazer Enterprises Inc. (512)719-1252 Fax: (512)719-1066 mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed http://www.starblazer.com http://www.realtime.net/~stearns http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1740 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:09:25 +0300 From: "Raivo Hool" To: email_address_removed Subject: no dream theater content Message-ID: Itchy: > That's because you're using Netscape. Either download the file > with a REAL browser ;) or check out Under A Cyber Moon's sound That's not because he's using Netscape, that's because the server hasn't been configured to recognize MP3 as a valid MIME-type, thus feeds it to browsers as ASCII data. Happens just the same with Lynx, one of the most real browsers around. I do think e-mailing the webmaster will do the trick. Been there, done that more than once. Not in the mood to use one of those unreal browsers brought to you by Microsnot. (Besides, Internet Explorer can't resume downloading in case of a timeout. Sucky.) Raitz, Dream Theater content kicks butt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:34:33 -0400 From: "AnathemA" To: Subject: Just my 2 cents on LTE Message-ID: Does anyone else agree with the thought that LTE just seems like everyone is trying to play louder and faster than everyone else. Like a competition. I personally didn't feel any emotion in the album. The songs were great but I think the musicianship (which I KNOW all those players have) was lacking. Any opposers? ======================================== Note: Remove the % when replying, or click this if your mailer supports it --> email_address_removed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send me a quick message viq icq by pointing your browser at http://www.ibbs.com/anathema (or click that if your browser supports it...) ======================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:51:59 -0700 From: Michael Bahr Subject: FIRE SALE! RUSH, DREAM THEATER, QUEENSRYCHE High-Demand CDs Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4932D9E54F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all!! List managers, please allow this to go through... I promise there won't be a subsequent posting of this sale to your lists and it won't become a bother. You'll probably agree that the CDs listed in this sale are the ones everyone REALLY wants. Thus, if this sale holds true to pattern, everything in it will be gone within 24 hours. :) Well, it is time. It's time for me to sell the CDs I never thought I'd sell.. the ones I've always loved, that I paid the most to get, that I searched the hardest for, that EVERYONE wants the most, and so forth. But I am less than $1,500 away from finally opening my own gaming store, which is something I've been working and saving toward for six years, and the time has come to make that final push. (Don't worry, I'm not closing Prism... I'll keep doing that on the side.) Therefore, all good offers will be accepted (quantities permitting. I have extra of a FEW items below, but most are one-of-a-kinds in my collection) with the emphasis on Speed. Speed meaning, if I accept your offer, please send right away. Personal cheques are totally OK... believe it or not I trust most of you nowadays. I've had very few cheque problems lately so I'm gonna have one big leap of faith in you the collecting community. So please don't abuse this, and please don't send a cheque if it's more than $100, for security purposes on your side as well. I will ship these items the moment I receive the orders for them. Well, within the hour, anyway. They're already ready to go, I have the mailing packets here waiting to be stuffed, bubblewrap, etc. And they're all original silver CDs. Like from the store. Just so you know, NO CDRs are in this batch. Hopefully the attachment will go through correctly. Here goes. --------------4932D9E54F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="cdsale.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cdsale.txt" CDs for sale (ALL ARE ORIGINAL SILVERS) DREAM THEATER: Acoustic Dreams Another Day (Promo) Antiquities Awake (Japanese version w/Eve 3" CD) Caught in Amsterdam '97 2CD Caught in a Web (Promo) Christmas CD 1996 Christmas CD 1997: The Making of FII Falling Into Infinity (Japanese version w/TAMP demo/STM 3" CD) 3" CD from Japanese FII (an extra one) as described above Hollow Years (European single w/You Or Me, Way It Used to Be) Hollow Years (Japanese single w/Euro tracks plus TKH and BMS live) Lie (European single w/To Live Forever (!!!) Another Day live & SDV) Live (Promo, w/ Surrounded and Pull Me Under performed live) Live At the Marquee (European version) The Silent Man (European single w/TTT demo and Eve) LIVE: I Alone Acoustic version (Promo) QUEENSRYCHE: I Am I (European single w/Real World, Dirty Secret, Someone Else FBV) Sign of the Times (European single w/Chasing Blue Sky + unplugged trx) RUSH: Critical Mass (without liners) Critical Mass (complete, with liners) Cygnus (still shrinkwrapped!) Double Agent (promo) Dreamline (promo) Ghost of a Chance (promo w/tracks from Presto on it) Mirrors 2CD Signals From London 2CD Best offers take 'em. No auction, no bullshit. Just give me a fair offer and I'll sell to the best one sitting in my inbox the next morning. Thanks for looking. To offer or whatever e-mail email_address_removed Or use the link on http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ --------------4932D9E54F0-- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4096 **************************