YTSEJAM Digest 4081 Today's Topics: 1) Prog in Previews; Piano-playing by "Andrew Forcier" 2) Prog in Previews; Piano-playing by "Andrew Forcier" 3) Re: Double slimline cases at 70 cents at computer city by email_address_removed 4) What is it about DT? by Steve Zebrowski 5) Re: wow, record posting number for me by Rogerio Brito 6) Re: What is it about DT? by Rogerio Brito 7) prog month by "Alex Smith" 8) Re: A Blessing from the Gods by belhai 9) break up? by "Alex Smith" 10) Re: A Blessing from the Gods by Digital Man 11) Re: Rippin' off by Christian P Kremo 12) New Orleans by Alan Estrada 13) various things by Arash Ashouriha 14) Re: wow, record posting number for me by TheCowGod 15) help requested by "Schnipp" 16) Re: A Blessing from the Gods by belhai ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:55:36 -0400 From: "Andrew Forcier" To: Subject: Prog in Previews; Piano-playing Message-ID: Hello, Wierd things are happening in Hollywood. Last week, I see a preview for "The Waterboy" with Adam Sandler, and Rush's "Tom Sawyer" plays throughout. This week, I go to see "The Opposite of Sex" and they have a preview for a movie called "Buffalo 66". From start to finish of the preview "Heart of the Sunrise" is the music: no dialogue or anything. Hollywood has gone prog... On Sting's BotN: >The piano is some of the best I've ever heard. >If folks out there are looking are for some good >Jazz/Pop piano playing, this is the place to look. Check out Kenny Kirkland and the inimitable Tain Watts on Kenny Garrett's latest "Songbook". Great jazz. Woof. Stodgers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:55:36 -0400 From: "Andrew Forcier" To: Subject: Prog in Previews; Piano-playing Message-ID: Hello, Wierd things are happening in Hollywood. Last week, I see a preview for "The Waterboy" with Adam Sandler, and Rush's "Tom Sawyer" plays throughout. This week, I go to see "The Opposite of Sex" and they have a preview for a movie called "Buffalo 66". From start to finish of the preview "Heart of the Sunrise" is the music: no dialogue or anything. Hollywood has gone prog... On Sting's BotN: >The piano is some of the best I've ever heard. >If folks out there are looking are for some good >Jazz/Pop piano playing, this is the place to look. Check out Kenny Kirkland and the inimitable Tain Watts on Kenny Garrett's latest "Songbook". Great jazz. Woof. Stodgers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:30:34 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Re: Double slimline cases at 70 cents at computer city Message-ID: <<>> hmm, now that I think about it, the slimline case I tried was from a Fish Import CD, could be the case. But the rear tray card does fit *perfectly* in a double chubby. And for the bmp's being posted, thats true, they would be awfully large. It was worth a shot. But either way, great CD, Mike, you'll continue to get my business. ~~Art www.joestump.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski To: email_address_removed Subject: What is it about DT? Message-ID: > I mean, they hold something so powerful and special that very few other > bands tap into. These sdays, there are a lot of DT clones out there and > not many (if any of them) mix the things DT does and come out with a > formula for near perfect music. I will begin by telling why I think DT .. > I say it is three aspects. .. > 1. Originality- Dt came to us at a time when music was runing bland for > 2. Emotion- I read a post where someone mention people complain that > 3. Technical skills- you listen to DT for the first time and you say I agree with all these things, and in a perfect world these would be THE reasons why DT was the ONLY high-profile prog-metal band. However this is NOT a perfect world and most people don't listen closely enough to distinguish DT from "just another hair band." Because of this, there are a few more reasons why DT is badass and other prog wannabes are just bad. 1.) James fucking LaBrie. Listen to the man's voice. Outside of classical singers, there is no singer ANYWHERE with a voice with harmonic content as rich as James's. His voice is huge--it's like a weapon that not even he can control when he opens his mouth. Partials all over the place. His voice was created to be recorded. He was meant to be heard on the radio. With different management, he could have been marketed like a George Michael. 2.) LOOK at them. I'm not gay or some kinda hootenanny , but these guys are cute. What teenage metal chick could resist John Petrucci and Kevin Moore in that Take The Time video? Derek isn't a bad looking guy for that matter. James has nice eyes no matter what his hair or 'stache are doing. Mike Portnoy is an all-American, beer-drinking, fight-watching guy with whom anyone can identify. Throw in a John Myung to keep it politically correct. Metal or not, these guys are A&R gold. And speaking of which... 3.) These guys were found by a major label that would offer them SOME support, and one that knew how to market them. We heard about all the other great non-DT music through DT, because DT was on the MTV or the radio EVEN THOUGH WE SAY WE DON'T WATCH IT OR LISTEN TO IT. Suprising what sinks in and what goes in one ear and out the other. I know it doesn't give the band much credit, and it doesn't make me feel any better either, but this is probably how it happened. I do, however, give the band credit for their sticktoitiveness :) in not giving up. They EARNED all the success they've acheived and more. All you die hards who say "yeah, well i've been with them since they were majesty and i don't need mtv to tell me how gret DT is" need not flame because you're in the minority, believe me. Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:07:55 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: wow, record posting number for me Message-ID: Just a remark: I re-read this post and it may sound like a flame. Let me explicitly state here that it's *NOT* a flame and wasn't intented to be one. Sorry, but my limitations in expressing myself in another language are quite disappointing. Now, to the post: On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Deedlit wrote: > Yes it's me AGAIN...that annoying, stupid chick. No. Chicks are never stupid, nor annoying. At most, they are slightly misinformed. :-) > Anyway, I was wondering what you all would think about some multimedia > stuff on a DT album.... You see, I know some of the fans have talents > in the multimedia area, and I was wondering if we all compilated or even > gave the job to one person, if DT would accept a multimedia presentation > on an upcoming disc...I mean, hell, we all know the fans would do it for > free.... Perhaps I'm a "defective" computer science student :-), but I really don't care for those multimedia presentations. And I dislike even more the fact that if the CD had multimedia, then it would have three major drawbacks: * the multimedia presentations would be designed for windows and not everybody has windows running on his/her computers; * the multimedia presentations wouldn't be playable all the time -- only when you have a computer with all the bells and whistles installed -- so you won't be able to play the multimedia using your Discman or your main stereo, which limitates the fun; * I'd love to get more music instead of having the multimedia track. BTW, just to put a filesystem on the CD, that is, to make a mixed mode CD, with both audio and video, you'd be wasting a lot of precious space (required to "separate" the portions of the disc). Some of the arguments above are a bit subjective, but at least the first two are objective. Now for a completely subjective argument: I really can't see what's the point in having a CD with multimedia. Just to have the ego fulfilled with the thought: "Ah, my computer can play these things" or to show your friends? I have on Emperor CD with two extra tracks ("Anthems to the Welking at Dusk", the Century Media release -- yes, Emperor is that band which only plays noisy things, but that I happen to like :-) ). Besides the extra tracks, it also has the video to the song "The Loss and Curse of Reverence". I'm honest to say that I only watched the video 5 or 6 times. After playing the video that amount of times, I thought: "Am I silly or what? Using a computer that could be searching for the next Mersenne primes just to play that video." Well, you get the idea. Most multimedia presentations are just reinventing the wheel: a video would be more welcome (and would certainly require less power from our computers), could be longer and with higher quality... As I said earlier, this last paragraph is a bit subjective, but I expect you will see where I'm coming from. After all, it's just philosophy. I'd appreciate any comments. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:12:53 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: What is it about DT? Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Steve Zebrowski wrote: > Mike Portnoy is an all-American, beer-drinking, fight-watching guy > with whom anyone can identify. Of course, Steve... :-) Especially the "all-American" part. :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:50:25 -0700 From: "Alex Smith" To: "YTSEJAM" Subject: prog month Message-ID: <01bdb2c8$5ce5a880$message_id_removed> <<7)Rush's 3CD live album will be released in October. 2CD's will include stuff from the last 2 tours and the 3rd CD will include live stuff from the "Farwell To The Kings Tour 1978".>> Holy SHit! Not only is DT's double live album going to be released in October, Rush's TRIPLE live album is too??!?!?! October shall be a great month for prog fans :-) :-) :-) I think October is gonna be Wet Dream Month with all this live shit floating around! Hey, maybe DT and Rush should conspire to release their albums on the same day. That way, not only will I splooge in my shorts, but I'll probably have a heart attack! At the least, I won't be able to do my homework! I know, I think Geddy and Alex should release an album with Mike on drums while Neil's out of the picture.... Except who would would write the lyrics? They could release that album on the same day too, and maybe have the Pink Floyd-Roger Waters reunion album, the Fish rejoins Marillion and kicks H's ass ten CD box set of new music, and the Metallica regains some balls and starts playing GOOD stuff again album all released on the same day also. That way, not only will there be splooge in my shorts and a coronary, but I think I'll start uncontrollably leaking every other bodily fluid while convulsing on the ground biting my tongue and yelling "11/16 time signature" uncontrollably over and over. Hey, if I have to die, I'd rather die while listening to something like that. Then again, I'd rather die while having sex with , but that's not for this G-rated mailing list. NP: Fish "Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors" NP: Neil Peart? Where? ciao, Alex Smith email_address_removed Subdivisions (Rush): http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/ Coming soon Fidra (Marillion): http://www.azstarnet.com/~bwsmith/fidra/ "Out for my own, out to be free One with my mind, they just can't see No need to hear things that they say Life is for my own to live my own way See them try to bring the hammer down No damn chains can hold me to the ground." -Metallica ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:57:39 -0500 (EST) From: belhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A Blessing from the Gods Message-ID: > Holy SHit! Not only is DT's double live album going to be released in October, > Rush's TRIPLE live album is too??!?!?! October shall be a great month for > prog fans :-) :-) :-) As well as the double live album from Fates Warning and the new studio album from King's X. Plus the fact that I'm seeing KX your with Fates and the Galactic Cowboys on Ocotber 8th. Yes, I think October will be one of the best months of the year. :) Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:55:16 -0700 From: "Alex Smith" To: "YTSEJAM" Subject: break up? Message-ID: <01bdb2c9$0a3ecb60$message_id_removed> I just read from a finnish mag that DT had a fight at a hotel in Finland and that they might be breaking up. It said something about Derek and John M. and their project. If you're reading this Mike please mail the jam and let us know what's happening or is this just the press making things up ? Also a funny thing happened to me one day, I was walking this street and passed a car with the license plate "Lie" and kept walking when I saw this motorcycle that said "Majesty" on it.. kinda funny I thought. Hmm........ isn't that almost EXACTLY what happened to the Spice Girls? They had a fight in a Helsinki hotel and then Ginger left. Bands, never go to Finland! It's bad luck! Wait! I'm half Finnish.... Wait! It's GOOD the Spice Girls broke up! Wait! I hope this is false! QUICK!!!! EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!! Alex Smith email_address_removed Subdivisions (Rush): http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/ Coming soon Fidra (Marillion): http://www.azstarnet.com/~bwsmith/fidra/ (you already saw my sig) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: A Blessing from the Gods Message-ID: A thousand monkeys in belhai's basement typed: > album from King's X. Plus the fact that I'm seeing KX your with Fates and > the Galactic Cowboys on Ocotber 8th. Whoa! Where??? Anyone have all the dates for this tour? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 01:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo To: Ernesto Lotitto Subject: Re: Rippin' off Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Ernesto Lotitto wrote: > Hi again!!! > I just noticed how cool Christian P Kremo's signature is (-C#), and I > figured out I can do the same thing, only mine would be a non-existing > note (yes, it is a such rip-off, but what the hell, I like the idea!). > Christian, I hope I count with your approval. ;) > > -E# Hey go for it. Tis a free country. I only chose it cuz it's my favorite key, a beautiful key that reminds of my days in South Pacific with 100 bikini clad women flirting with me...er maybe that wasn't me after all. DTC for the day: They're a really cool band. And those crunchy NM chords are C#. There you go. -C# (but not a member of the Be-Sharps) the original ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 02:02:41 -0500 From: Alan Estrada To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: New Orleans Message-ID: hey guys...I wont be posting/resdint the list for a week (for those who care) IM taking a bus tomorrow to houston, then Im taking a train (amtrak) to new orleans, Ive never been there and Im going in kind of a back pack trip with a friend, does anyone knows some cool places to go in new orleans? places with cool music or stuff to have fun? Im 19 so Im underage and my friend is too.... let me know any suggestions...Im leaving monterrey tomorrow 9 PM (texas time) so any suggestion before 8 would be great... thanks a lot --- MP3 of the week - "Staying Alive" the Bee Gees cover with Ozzy on vocals, Dweezil on Guitars, guest solos by Nuno, Steve Lukather and Zakk Wylde: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/ Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:46:47 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: various things Message-ID: <35B23F17.4570@fh-niederrhein.de> I've wrote : <<7)Rush's 3CD live album will be released in October. 2CD's will include stuff from the last 2 tours and the 3rd CD will include live stuff from the "Farwell To The Kings Tour 1978".>> Matt wrote : >Holy SHit! Not only is DT's double live album going to be released in October, >Rush's TRIPLE live album is too??!?!?! October shall be a great month for >prog fans :-) :-) :-) Hey, you've forgot Fates Warning's double live album "Still Life" which also will be released in October too. - Yngwie Malmsteen will release a new live album in October/November :-)) - Also Savatage will release a DOUBLE LIVE ALBUM later this year along with a live video. - Royal Hunt have just released "PARADOX LIVE" in Japan. The limited edition box includes also a live video of their incredible Paradox tour. Is there anyone from Japan who have more information about this box ? Mark Metzger wrote : >I have no idea why it is not said more often that the most recent >version of AH/TKH is one of the most amazing things that DT has ever >done. This song typifies what makes DT great. Different textures, >different tempos, a great new bluesy section, creative lyrics and an >opportunity for JP to sick-schred. Take a great song and make it >better. Well, this is exactly my opinion. In the new bluesy section, you can hear Savatage's (trans.. Orchestra) "Christmas Eve". I've also noticed that the riff in "Just Let Me Breathe" is like Steve Vai's riff in "Still My Bleeding Heart" ! Check it out. Btw, don't forget to visit my Prog Or Die page for the new "prog guide" section. If you know band's which I've forgot please email me. Thank you to all the jammers who have emailed me allready. NP : Chroma Key - Dead Air For Radios ("On The Page" is incredible) Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:25:40 -0400 From: TheCowGod To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: wow, record posting number for me Message-ID: > Yes it's me AGAIN...that annoying, stupid chick. Anyway, I was wondering >what you all would think about some multimedia stuff on a DT album.... You that might work, but remember - any space used for multimedia is not used for audio. With your typical pop band, that's fine, cuz they usually use like 45 minutes of the CD for audio anyway. But DT tends to pack their CDs to the gills, so if you put a multimedia thing on there it'd mean losing music - like maybe 10 minutes worth, depending on how big the multimedia is. Moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 18:36:51 +0200 From: "Schnipp" To: Subject: help requested Message-ID: <01bdb333$6eaedee0$528535d4@schnipp> Hi, I have the opportunity to go to the US for a year: Au-pair and have some questions . Music and computer technics and living of course. Anybody who volunteers?? Mail me privately and sorry for NDTC schnipp Gather ye rosebuds while ye may +++ old time is still a flying the same flower that smiles today +++ tomorrow will be dying A change of seasons,DT; poem by Robert Herrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:20:12 -0500 (EST) From: belhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A Blessing from the Gods Message-ID: > > album from King's X. Plus the fact that I'm seeing KX your with Fates and > > the Galactic Cowboys on Ocotber 8th. > > Whoa! Where??? Anyone have all the dates for this tour? I don't think there are any set dates yet, but the Jaxx Night Club has it listed for October 8th. I think that's the only date set so far. Brandon ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4081 **************************