YTSEJAM Digest 4022 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3994 by Alan Estrada 2) Anarchy in the UK, or the complete opposite... by Lobsterback 3) Meet A Mad European Traveller??!! by Choon-Kang Walther 4) Portland Me show cancelled!!! by Choon-Kang Walther 5) Explorer's Club....... by Joe DeAngelo 6) Re: "Wanna ride my trolley, little girl?" by Syrinx 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4021 by email_address_removed 8) Anekdoten and D-Man: Can you ask for a better combo? (NDT) by Syrinx 9) MD, DC, NJ, PA Jammers UNITE! by Steve Zebrowski 10) Re: Pump Up the Volume by "Dale R. Newberry" 11) Time Lost? by Dave Thomas 12) OAN's The Age of Discovery by Bill Wrightson 13) Re: Yes or No... by Steve Chew 14) Age of Impact question... by Steve Chew 15) Re: Time Lost? by Rick Audet 16) I'm audi by "woot" 17) Re: new purchases by Damon Fibraio 18) CDNow $10 discount by belhai 19) re: ProgMetal Origins by Brian Hansen 20) Re: John Petrucci on new TV show! by "Elydian" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:29:39 -0500 From: Alan Estrada To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3994 Message-ID: At 02:53 AM 20/06/98 -0700, you wrote: >Oh my goodness, Alan WTF is all this ? >6 posts in a row, c'mon, and with the huge signature >AND quoting the original message as well :) > >Whatever your on send me some c/- the Pacific Ocean.... >5 more days till we reach land, but who's counting.. > >graham ok, sorry about this, Im again on vacations and I sent some of those post before the list chrashed some of them after I think so they ended in the same jam, Im going to change the sig, meanwhile Im not putting the sig in this message ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:37:55 -0400 From: Lobsterback To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Anarchy in the UK, or the complete opposite... Message-ID: Gleaned this from the latest ELP digest. Doesn't bode well for fans of any band in the UK... >From: akiko@bln.de >To: email_address_removed >Subject: UK tax/Rolling Stones > >The Rolling Stones hit the headlines in Britain last week, following the >rescheduling of the UK dates on their current tour for the next financial >year. This was due to the new tax policy of the British government: Until >now, anyone with non-resident status for the tax purposes (ie. if they >spend less than 62 days a year in the country) were not liable for taxation >in the UK on their income abroad. With the new Budget, the exemption no >longer applies as soon as you work in the UK even for a day, and you will >be charged income tax on your foreign earnings! The Stones had been trying >to negotiate a deal with the Inland Revenue, but they have failed to reach >an agreement in the end. > >I bet all ELP fans in Britain are wondering now: will this new tax law >affect ELP too? Will they still be playing UK on the next tour??? > >(But hang on, this new tax law's a really bad news for me, too, it means >I'll lose my non-resident status in the UK if I ever do a little job there >- though we're talking about far, far, far less amount in my case!!) > >Yours, > >Akiko Hada Brian "Bringer of Ill Tidings" Henderson =================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: email_address_removed ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ =================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:50:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Choon-Kang Walther To: email_address_removed Subject: Meet A Mad European Traveller??!! Message-ID: Hi folks, my name is Choon-Kang. Maybe you remember my Neverending Dreams Stories. I will be travelling the US to see DT in Maine, Mass, CT and Long Island. Who is there from the Jamfamily and would like to meet? I will spend a week in NY afterwards, vacational purposes. Cheers Choon-Kang Please respond privately, to email_address_removed.ch Please alow some time for reply, since I am very rarely on the net these days and am not subscribed to the ytsejam right now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep your DREAMs alive, don't get pulled under in the world's THEATER of infinitely falling and changing seasons... email_address_removed.ch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:52:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Choon-Kang Walther To: email_address_removed Subject: Portland Me show cancelled!!! Message-ID: Hi Jamers, the show in Portland, Maine on August 4th has apparently been cancelled. I got this from a local fan who wanted to attend this concert, but was told so even he had already bought a tickets some weeks prior!!! Cheers Choon-Kang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep your DREAMs alive, don't get pulled under in the world's THEATER of infinitely falling and changing seasons... email_address_removed.ch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:28:26 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo To: YTSEJAM Subject: Explorer's Club....... Message-ID: All of you who already have "Age of Impact" *jealous sneer*, is it available IN STORES, or just through mail at this time? Thanks, - Joe DeAngelo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: Andrew James Embler Subject: Re: "Wanna ride my trolley, little girl?" Message-ID: > As for a Geoff Downes/Steve Howe album, get the Yes album entitled > "Drama." It's sort a Yes album with an asterisk, as it's the only one > without Jon Anderson's signature vocal style. However, I think it's a > great album, with Downes doing some great stuff and Howe, Squire, and > White in fine form. The replacement for Anderson, Trevor Horn, is decent, > and I actually enjoy his vocals. ...and, as everone knows, Drama is one of my favourite albums of all time. Yes, it's the only album w/out Jon Anderson - but Trevor Horn does a VERY good job at handling the vocals. The 3 songs on the album that *really* stand out are Machine Messiah, Does It Really Happen? and Tempus Fugit. Definatly a classic album that's been overlooked by many of the Yes community. Keep in mind also that Geoff and Steve formed Asia after this lineup broke up, so if you dig the early Asia material, you'll REALLY love this album. - mike. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:40:23 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4021 Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/1998 2:06:39 AM Central Daylight Time, belhai writes: << I swear, there's this one wrestling fan who always shows up on every WWF TV show each week and he looks very much like Petrucci. >> You watch wrestling? Haha haha haha... [eriC] THE DREAM THE/\TER <===Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:48:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: A Ytse Besides Itself Subject: Anekdoten and D-Man: Can you ask for a better combo? (NDT) Message-ID: Just wanted to pass the word along: Friday night (July 3rd), 3 bands are playing in Fort Washington, Pa (A suburb of Philly). They are: The Dark Ether Project, Always Almost (ex-Echolyn), and Anekdoten. What's cool about this show - since Anekdoten's from Sweden, they're only playing 2 gigs in the COUNTRY! If you don't know "what they sound like" here's a clue: Take King Crimson (Red era) and Nirvana. Put them in a blender. Add a eigth of crack. Blend nicely. :) That's Anekdoten. The price? 15 bucks - and the show starts promptly at 7pm. Anyway, D-Man is making the trip up from Williamsburg for the show, so IF people from the Philly (or surrounding) areas wanna go and hang out, drop me an email. I'm sure we can set something up (espically if you need directions). I hope to see some of you on Friday! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:51:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski To: email_address_removed Subject: MD, DC, NJ, PA Jammers UNITE! Message-ID: Hey, here's a question: For the last two weeks some of us have been operating under the assumption that tickets for the DT/DP/ELP show on 8/12 in Camden, NJ go on sale on their respective Saturdays, and for the past two weeks TicketMasturbators say, "we have no listing for that event/day/whatever." Does anyone know, REALLY, when the tickets for the Camden show go on sale? Thanks, Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:01:26 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Pump Up the Volume Message-ID: > CD: Pump Up the Volume soundtrack ($8.00)--i LOVE this movie, and the > soundtrack is cool though, although VERY unproggy.... I must agree with this. Definitely not prog, but very very cool. Fave tracks are the Chagall Geuvara tune "Tale of the Twister" and Henry Rollins/Bad Brains cover of "Kick Out the Jams." :) I found a copy of I&W on CD for $5 the othyer day at a local used store. Might need to pick that up to replace my recently skipping copy. Is ther esomewhere I could get details about Powermad? I want to go, but don't know much about it (other than the pretty kickass sounding lineup :). Dale R. Newberry email_address_removed "I'm hip about time." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:17:15 -0700 From: Dave Thomas To: "'ytsejam'" Subject: Time Lost? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:28:04 -0500 ]From: "Mike Patrick" >I'm not saying it doesn't sound good (I really liked the clip of 'Oh'), but >there's a lot more right around the corner (Explorer's, Dali, an actually >affordable version of Enchant's 'Time Lost', etc. etc.) that's competing >for my music dollar. An affordable version of Time Lost? When and how much? Details, please, if anyone has them. I guess it's a good thing that I didn't order this through the mail... Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of CG software, books, games, comics, music movies and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:57:03 -0500 From: Bill Wrightson To: email_address_removed Subject: OAN's The Age of Discovery Message-ID: I just wanted to echo the comments I have been hearing about this Savatage CD from Open All Night Records. The sound quality is pretty good with minimal crowd noise, especially the bonus tracks from a Japanese DWD show! The turn-around time on this CD was incredible, especially considering that they are located in France and I am in Texas! It took about two weeks turn-around from when I sent them money to when i recieved the CD. That's pretty incredible considering the alternatives out there. And one other thing, their artwork is the best I have ever seen on a boot CD! The front cover looks like it could be an official release. This CD is a must buy for any good Savatage fan! *********************************************************************** ** Bill Wrightson email: email_address_removed ** ** DNA Enterprises, Inc. voice: (972) 671-1972 ** ** 1240 E. Campbell Road fax: (972) 671-1581 ** ** Richardson, Tx 75081 http://www.dnaent.com ** *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:57:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Yes or No... Message-ID: Ryan, If you like most of the songs from that Yes Highlights CD then it would probably be hard for you to go wrong on choosing a CD. Nonetheless, I'll give you my opinions on where you should start: - For "classic" Yes, I'd recommend "Close to the Edge", "Fragile" and "The Yes Album". I found it harder to get into "Relayer" and "Tales From Topographic Oceans" because they're less melodic and TFTO tends to wander too much for my taste. - "Going for the One" is good. It's where Yes starts changing their style with the songs being a bit more condensed. "Awaken" is a wonderful prog song from that CD. I'd recommend waiting on "Tormato" and "Drama" until you've heard some of the other classic Yes albums. Those two are divergent from the earlier style. - For "mid-period" Yes, which is more pop oriented, I'd recommend 90125. I really like that album though many "classic" Yes fans don't. "Big Generator", "Union" and "Talk" are OK, but I don't enjoy them as much. - I really like both Keys to Ascension albums, but of course you can get most of the live tracks on the "classic" Yes albums. The studio tracks from both of those CDs are quite good and reminiscent of "classic" Yes. - I don't like "Open Your Eyes" (their newest CD) unfortunately so I can't recommend it. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:06:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew To: email_address_removed Subject: Age of Impact question... Message-ID: Thanks to those of you who've been giving reviews of the Explorer's Club "Age of Impact" CD. You've really whet my appetite -- I'm a fan of Magellan so I've been looking forward to this one for a while. I have two questions for you: 1) How did you get the CD? Did you get a promo copy or did you order it from Magna Carta directly? If the latter, how did you order it? 2) While everyone's been reviewing the prog aspects of the music, I've yet to see mention of the vocals. The vocals usually end up making or breaking a CD for me. So, what did you think of them? Were they powerful? Melodic? Are there many harmonies? Thanks for any info! :) Steve -- Steve Chew - email_address_removed - http://www.clark.net/pub/iz/home.html "Give me ambiguity or give me something else." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Time Lost? Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Dave Thomas wrote: > An affordable version of Time Lost? When and how much? Details, please, > if anyone has them. > > I guess it's a good thing that I didn't order this through the mail... If we in the San Francisco Bay area are lucky, maybe Enchant will put on a show or two in the near future. (They're from the Concord area, I think.) I managed to pick up a couple of copies of "Time Lost" last summer for $15 a piece at their shows. Maybe Dali's Dilemma and Enchant will play some local shows together ? :) Now playing: Cut Chemist Meets Shortkut, version 1.1 Live at the Futureprimitive Soundsession Rick Audet San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:53:06 -0600 From: "woot" To: Subject: I'm audi Message-ID: <000b01bda386$c71aa800$message_id_removed> Well I recently received my 3000th jam so I thought this would be a fitting time to end my run with the jam. I'm moving to Toronto for a couple years starting on Wednesday and I won't have net access while there. Anyway, thanks to everyone on the list and I'll see everyone in a couple years. Meanwhile do yourself a favor and go buy some Storyhill. Ask Korgx3 for more information. :) woot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: new purchases Message-ID: $17 for a CD? That is outrageous. I know you are supporting the boyz, but how much of that $17 do you think goes to them? Yo got ripped off. -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: belhai To: Dream Theater Subject: CDNow $10 discount Message-ID: I know this has been mentioned many times but I've only begun paying attention now. Can someone please send me their URL with a link to CDNow? I'd like to get that $10 discount. Thanks, Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:10:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: re: ProgMetal Origins Message-ID: "Gandalf" >Neil Evans wrote: >>What band(s) would you consider to be the >>"originator(s) of the progmetal genre. >I can't believe that no one has mentioned Rush!!!! >Rush is without a doubt in my mind the band that >started it all. >Thorin Well, my answer was Queensryche. But I was talking strictly about the popularization of the term "prog metal". I did mention Rush as an influence, and I agree that that Rush is the single biggest originator (and influence) for "prog metal". Damn, Rush influenced everyone. The pm term was just never used back then. At that time, "prog rock" was Camel, ELP, etc. Rush was "hard rock", and also fell under the term "metal". Now that "prog metal" is popular, they certainly WOULD have fallen into that category too. But they have lost the "metal" since then...(Ok, I admit it, "metal" is such a broad category that almost anyone can fall into it.) more hairsplitting and another $.02, BH _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:46:50 +0100 From: "Elydian" To: Subject: Re: John Petrucci on new TV show! Message-ID: <01bda385$e57d1680$LocalHost@elydian> >"I won't waste another breathe." TTT > Alistair You wasted another three breathes. ========================================== In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ ========================================== ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 4022 **************************