YTSEJAM Digest 3926 Today's Topics: 1) Re: other singers by email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) 2) Ozric Tenticles by email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) 3) New DT Singer? by "Richard A. Rivera" 4) Re: DT replacement singer by AEllis1222 5) What I Love (Galactic Cowboy's Content) by bj reurich 6) ytsejam irc by Andy 7) RE: NEW DT SINGER by Daus Studenberg 8) Devin Townsend? by email_address_removed 9) On the James replacement thing. by "KorgX3" 10) Re: Comments to some jamsters by Eckie 11) Huh? by Haje Jan Kamps 12) Radio play for your bands music... by email_address_removed 13) Ozrics by "Paul W. Cashman" 14) Re: Devin Townsend? by "TheCowGod" 15) James LaBrie's depature?????????????? by "Marcell Olsen" 16) New topic: setlist as openers by "Paul W. Cashman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:44:52 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: other singers Message-ID: "earthblind, starbound" wrote: >Hmm. Though he might not have quite the range of Geoff Tate, Fish pretty >much covers all of those bases. And though David Sylvian is pretty much >only a baritone, he can rock out (God's Monkey) or croon (Damage). Ah...Fish can fit in this position. But...David Sylvian? I like his singing on Damage and The First Day. IMHO, Sylvian's voice is not suitable for prog metal music at all. It's kinda cold. My choice for the new DT singer would be Alberto Piras from Deus Ex Machina. This guy can sing in any range. Oh...should I add Mr.Doctor from Devil Doll? That would be the scariest singer. :) Regards, AE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:51:47 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Ozric Tenticles Message-ID: "Jason Birzer" wrote: >Someone on the list mentioned Ozric Tenticles playing in SF. Does anyone >know if they are on tour right now? ]From what I know they do not have any date on their webpage right now. I found out about he SF show from the local newspaper. Please keep your eye open or contact the possible venue in your area to see if they can get Ozric to play there. It might not be a big venue though. >I've got a 20% discount at CDNow which I'm trying to use. Does anyone have >suggestions on what to get? Please send a long list, because I have a lot >of CDs. (and I already have all Spock's Beard, Echolyn, MC Bands, etc.) Get all Ozric albums if you have plenty of $$$ to spend....and Deus Ex Machina, Present, Univers Zero, Magma, Djam Karet, Anekdoten, Anglagard, etc....lots of them. You can take a look at the prog cd's list on my music page. School is over and I'm very happy now... Regards, AE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:47:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Dream Theater Subject: New DT Singer? Message-ID: Maybe it's just me, but the fact that singers as divserse as Devin Townshend, Sebastian Bach, Ray Adler and Zak Stevens have been suggested as JLB's replacement is a testimony to how great of a singer JLB is. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:51:45 EDT From: AEllis1222 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT replacement singer Message-ID: Hmm. . . after much thought, I'd say Dave Deluco from Mystic Fishook would be a great choice. He's a very good singer, though I've never heard him in the upper registers. If you have no idea who this guy is, go to www.mysticfishook.com ! Art www.joestump.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:49:51 +1000 From: bj reurich To: email_address_removed Subject: What I Love (Galactic Cowboy's Content) Message-ID: What I love is : when an album I've had for quite some time finally 'clicks'. I'm talking about the Galactic Cowboys (first?) self-titled album. An album I picked up at least 5years ago... prolly closer to six or seven, in a second hand store. Anyway, i thought they might be worth a listen back then as I heard a few good things about them... *but* upon listening, found I didn't like them. I thought they were just a bunch of slow, monotonous crappy grungified/beatlesified/kingXified songs. Well, the CD's been in my player for a while now(one of those 60 disc players), so it rears it's head every now and then, due to random function, or currently being 2discs behing LegendII (which I'm listening to a LOT, & is absolutely brilliant, and mindboggling btw). Anyway, usually it goes straight off again.. until last week - suddenly is was bright, harmonious and beautiful to my ears! Don't know how or why, but suddenly I 'discovered' a little gem. Thanks, Zajk (still wondering how the human mind work's, and in particular, how his mind works) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:52:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy To: email_address_removed Subject: ytsejam irc Message-ID: Just a plee for help, since so old-time ytsejammers won't help a former ytse-jammer. I don't know if I sold out or what, kind of stupid if you ask me. Anyway.... ]From a unix based system how do you get on irc? And is irc accessible from the web? Thank you .... andy "fucking" miller *not the musician* Andrew Miller I can never be you email_address_removed I'll smile and learn to pretend I'll never be open again I'll have no more dreams to defend I'll never be open again ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:38:52 -0400 From: Daus Studenberg To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: NEW DT SINGER Message-ID: ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD8760.2306CBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Look, James is a great singer and just fits the part perfectly for DT. = But, if he HAD to leave, I think that Peter Hammill would be great for a = few studio songs. He has such a powerful voice! I wouldn't even = consider Sebastian Bach because of his immaturity. 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Message-ID: No, I couldn't imagine Devin filling in as a DT replacement singer even though DT does match his own initials ;) He's just too pissed off sounding to sing for DT. He does do well for Steve Vai, though. Later, Jeff E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:45:44 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: On the James replacement thing. Message-ID: <01bd8787$36d36400$150d84d0@korgx3> Well, if DT were going to replace James, I would drive/fly/use my mystical powers of telepotation to get to Manhattan and kick the shit out of Mike, Derek, and the Johns. If they actually were to give James the boot, it had better be because James did something absolutely awful, like rape an elderly condor, because James is the best fucking singer I think they're gonna find. The only way to save their ass would be to send Gary Charone into a tobacco detox clinic and then, maybe, they might have have a decent, although poor, replacement. James has much better fashion sense than Gary, I think, as well. I think Gary's watched too many Sprite commercials and started raiding RuPaul's closet. Image may be nothing, but people are still gonna snicker at a guy in a blouse. I hope James never hears about any of this. I'd be kind of miffed if all of my fans were discussing who my replacement would be all the time. I think this is the 4th time in a year I've heard this same discussion. We might as well start a discussion on who's gonna replace Skadz as Ytse-Moderator. And the only reason I could see James leaving would be either for family problems, or to play Enjolras in Les Miserables, otherwise he could have no excuse. Besides, all the Ytsettes would miss James' ass in tight leather pants. I know I would. =) --KorgX3 "Let other rise to take our place until the earth is FREE!" -- Enjolras NP: Michael Hedges, Adrian Legg, Billy McLaughlin, Jesse Cook, Craig Chaquico (Yah, I know he sucks), and Jim Brickman in random mode. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:01:56 -0700 From: Eckie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Comments to some jamsters Message-ID: AL forewarned: > Eckie - Put that thing away before you need glasses! *taps on shoulder* "I'M OVER HERE!" ~Eckie holsters his piece ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:14:58 -0400 From: Haje Jan Kamps To: email_address_removed Subject: Huh? Message-ID: Uhmm.. I have a rather "duh-day" question. Why does 50% of the jam seems so eager to get rid of James? I don't quite get it. I like Dream Theater just the way it is.. Why change it? I guess there are better singers out there.. (I have no clue what makes a good singer.. If it sounds good, it's good, to me.) but what about the so-called integrity of the band? I love the sound of how everything seems to fit together.. Oh well.. Come on.. Illuminate me! Haje +---------------------+ | Haje Jan Kamps | +-------------------+---------------------+ | http://home.sol.no/~lrovers/haje/ | +-----------------------------------------+ | Adesso che ho perso la vista, | | ci vedo meglio e di piu | +-----------------------------------------+ | Careful what you wish | | you may regret it | | Careful what you wish | | You just might get it | | -metallica : King Nothing | +-----------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 06:47:06 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Radio play for your bands music... Message-ID: The Worldwide Radio & Record Company is a worldwide radio station open 24 hours a day! This is not your little local radio station this is the big time. We are the biggest radio station in the world with over 1 million listeners! We want to play your band's music on our stations for FREE! If you have not already done so, you can place your band in our record store. We will announce that your music is for sale every time that we play your music! If our listeners like your music they can buy it by mail or by calling our 1-800 number with a credit card order. As an added service to your band you will be given the Internet Web Page with full length audio samples of your album or album's! All prepaid orders will be sent out to you as soon as they come in. If your band wants $10.00 for every album we sell then we will give you $10.00. (It really is that simple!) For more information about our Radio Stations or our Worldwide Record Store Distribution Service please call us toll free 24 hours a day at 1-800-579-6477 or call 913-286-0911 if you are outside of the U.S.A. If you can't call then mail a letter asking for more information to the following address. Or find us on the Internet using your favorite search engine! Worldwide Radio & Record Company PO Box 887 Topeka, Ks 66601 U.S.A. <<>> ********************************************************** You are not on ANY list. You will never recieve this message again! Do not to reply to be removed from our list, You are already removed! ********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ozrics Message-ID: Someone (Jason Birzer I think) asked about an Ozrics date in San Fran and whether they were formally touring. According to SF's local print media Ozrics are playing on June 5th at, I believe, the Fillmore, but there are no dates indicated on the Web yet (including that one) and I think the show is a one-off, or part of a very localized California minitour. The official Ozrics site doesn't indicate any US tour dates as of yesterday, but indicated a show was possible in Sacramento due to some industry or label deal. So it appears this isn't a big tour, alas and damnit. Hmmmm, $550 minimum for airfare to San Fran and back; I can't QUITE fuckin afford it. And believe me, I wish I could. :) --Paul who lacks only AFTERSWISH, LIVE ETHEREAL CEREAL and ERPLAND (I think) -- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective Paul W. Cashman And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive email_address_removed And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives ICQ# 4151223 "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY www.crl.com/~vanyel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 02:48:27 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: Devin Townsend? Message-ID: <001d01bd87b1$816b5ca0$message_id_removed> |No, I couldn't imagine Devin filling in as a DT replacement singer even |though DT does match his own initials ;) | |He's just too pissed off sounding to sing for DT. He does do well for |Steve Vai, though. actually, he's been diagnosed manic-depressive and is now trying to tone down the uncontrolled bouts of anger as it's considered detrimental to his condition. I wonder what the next SYL disc will sound like... Hmm... -- "I lost my vision in a tragic gambling accident." -- Mike Portnoy, "A Change of Seasons" Dan McCormack email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:50:25 +0200 From: "Marcell Olsen" To: Subject: James LaBrie's depature?????????????? Message-ID: <01bd87a9$65590ec0$2ec652c3@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD87BA.28E1DEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tell me one thing. Is James Labrie being replaced or something.=20 Please tell me the TRUTH. Nobody's able to replace James - ever! Marcell/Copenhagen, Denmark ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD87BA.28E1DEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Is James Labrie being replaced or = something.=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD87BA.28E1DEC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: New topic: setlist as openers Message-ID: (I hope this hasn't been trashed to the ground before; I've been skimming the jams by sender for a while... :)) Here's a sobering idea for a topic: what songs should DT play while they're opening for ELP and Deep Purple? There are many factors to consider: -- They'll have 45 minutes, at most an hour, which is approximately, oh, 2.3 ACOSs. :) See below and plan carefully..... -- They'll be opening before an audience that will likely be older and a bit less "metal" than us freeks at a regular headlining show. This is a pretty tough call: DP rocks pretty hard, but ELP are generally a lot softer. It'll be a mixed bag, but I'd be more inclined toward softer songs, with a few well-spaced wake-up calls. :) (But see below regarding heckling.....) -- When you're opening for someone, ESPECIALLY when you're DT and have limited radio penetration in many cities, every second is precious. You have the potential to make dozens, hundreds of new fans....and the potential to piss it all away with songs that either don't impress a non-DT audience or which turn out poorly (for whatever reason). -- The setlist should be relatively undemanding on James' voice, for several reasons. If it gets strained and DT are still contractually obligated to play, then they won't be impressing too many potential fans (never mind the band's musical prowess, people tend to focus on the candy-- err, vocals). Plus, it probably took a few favors to arrange this opening gig and it'd be a shame if they had to cancel dates and miss opportunities to Convert the Masses. -- Just as some of us did to Big Wreck and Full On The Mouth, there may well be devoted ELP or DP fans who will heckle our beloved DT during their set. If DT hits the ground running and has few (or no) long breaks or periods of relative quiet, THE HECKLERS CAN'T MAKE TOO MUCH DIFFERENCE because they'll be drowned out by DT. (Until the Flying Wedge of Ytsejammers arrives and.....silences them, painlessly if necessary. :)) Some things to think about. I'd definitely include "PMU" and "TTT", which leaves about 25 minutes. "Surrounded"? Schweeeet, but there are those quieter parts that would just beg some idiot drunk to start yelling at Our Guys. "UaGM"? Also schweet, but it's a bit demanding on James' voice. "LtL"? Yummy, but at c. 11 minutes it's a big chunk. Some instrumentals might be a wise course to steer..... "Erotomania"? "Ytsejam"? A nice juicy medley? Let's see some thoughts here. :) -- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective Paul W. Cashman And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive email_address_removed And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives ICQ# 4151223 "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY www.crl.com/~vanyel ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3926 **************************