YTSEJAM Digest 3924 Today's Topics: 1) Re: replacement singer by "KorgX3" 2) That crazy guy with the tattoo... by Max Arbot 3) audio/video compressing NDTC by O-P Komonen 4) Re: Ocean Machine by subtlerage 5) If DT needed a new singer... by K I L L M A R Y 6) YTSEJAM digest 3921 by Dan Senko 7) *** READ THIS NOW *** by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3923 by DrummerEsh 9) And then the lights dimmed...(The show) by Eckie 10) Re:New DT vocalist??? by EVO V 11) A Bunch o' Stuff by AURACLE 12) Re: another DT singer by Kevin Carmouche 13) Re: Phish by Kevin Carmouche 14) Re: replacement singers... by email_address_removed.au (Paul Dyer) 15) Fort Worth show, some spoilers by "Ryan Whitaker" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:50:14 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Re: replacement singer Message-ID: <01bd866a$db8f5120$230d84d0@korgx3> >> :Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just >> :wondering, IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO >> :would be a good replacement? Ya know I think these rumors of people leaving the band only spring up so someone can start one of these stupid "who would replace?" threads. Jeez, people, if you're not happy with someone in the band, just say so. You'll only get flamed to the fourth tier of Hell for it, but we welcome opinions here! --KorgX3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:35:46 EDT From: Max Arbot To: email_address_removed Subject: That crazy guy with the tattoo... Message-ID: << Some guy got his back signed by everybody and is going to have those signatures tattooed on him. >> Man, that guy has got to be crazy...oh wait...that's me. Yep, I did get all of them to sign my back, and I am making plans today to have them all tattooed. I talked to Mike after the show and asked him if he keeps up with the Internet stuff. He said he did, so I asked him if he'd ever been to the site with the quiz. He said he had. Well, that was MY site. I couldn't believe it. He told me that he had the whole band take the quiz and no one knew any of it. Mike laughed, "Man, I was the only one who knew any of that shit." If you're wondering about that quiz (I guess it's official now), then go to THE DREAM THEATER. Hell yeah... [eriC] THE DREAM THEATER http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:54:18 +0300 From: O-P Komonen To: email_address_removed Subject: audio/video compressing NDTC Message-ID: just read some awesome stuff about breakthrough of compressing video... 1.3 gigs of video can be fitted to 1.44 meg floppy. read more at http://www.theage.com.au/daily/980519/infotech/infotech1.html op777 ------------------------------------------------------------- Olli-Pekka Komonen snail:Kutojantie 2, 13720 Parola, Finland e-mail: opk@hlti.fi phn:+358-3-6715036 cell:+358-400-498 266 ------------------------------------------------------------- "YOUTAKEMYLIFEANDI'LLTAKEYOURSTOO!!!" -Kevin Moore "Very positive message" -James LaBrie ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:21:51 -0500 (CDT) From: subtlerage To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ocean Machine Message-ID: :If James should get the boot, i'd LOVE to see Devin Townsend take over!! :Then he could actually do some singing (ala Vai and Working Man) and not :just his explosive screeching (SYL and Ocean Machine). hmm... do you actually own the Ocean Machine disc? :) he sounds nothing like he does in SYL. he's singing very much in the same style as he did on Vai's Sex & Religion disc and Working Man. in fact, i'd recommend OM to anyone that liked him on either of those two projects. you can't go wrong. :) for anyone that might be interested, check out his Hevy Devy Records website for sound clips, where to buy the CD, etc: http://home.bc.rogers.wave.ca/hdrecord/ _______________________________________________________________________ Andrew Miller - email_address_removed - http://www.subtlerage.com subtlerage - keyboard oriented progressive new age ambient rock Silent Pendulum Music - PO Box 2194 - Iowa City, IA 52244 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: K I L L M A R Y To: email_address_removed Subject: If DT needed a new singer... Message-ID: ..I would also think Devin Townsend would be perfect. I think he is pure genius, the Vai CD is one of the most refreshing things ever to come out, and it remains (to me) Steve Vai's finest overall effort. I know a lot of people don't like him, but hey, lots of people didn't like the sound of distorted guitar when it first came out. Open up your minds, people. Devin will hopefully be someday recognized as the genius that he is. Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ None of us is as strong as all of us. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:45:38 -0400 From: Dan Senko To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 3921 Message-ID: <5010060006794327000002L672*@MHS> Status Distribution May 22, 1998 15:42:13 The message regarding "YTSEJAM digest 3921" sent on May 22, 1998 15:42:= 13 was sent by Status Recipient Type To Native Name email_address_removed Foreign Native Name email_address_removed Recipients Status Reporters Type From Name Domain NOTES Native Name CN=3DDan Senko/OU=3DRaleigh/O=3DIBM@IBMUS= Foreign Native Name CN=3DDan Senko/OU=3DRaleigh/O=3DIBM\nIBMU= S\n\n Organization IBM Org Unit 1 Raleigh Last Name Senko First Name Dan Status 769 Explanation Invalid recipient X.400 Status 769 Explanation Router: Unable to open mailbox file D04NHS02/04/H/IBM m= ail.box: Server not responding = ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:36:42 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: *** READ THIS NOW *** Message-ID: If you are leaving school or leaving your mail, and turning off your account for the summer. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE to the mailing list: mail email_address_removed subject: asdf unsubscribe ytsejam -The Doc -- "Right from the start I've fallen. Slow motion I try to scream. Nobody hears the muted cries. Dreams are crashing from side to side..." -Living in Fear, Dali's Dilemma. http://progmetal.gmsnet.com ----> email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:18:37 EDT From: DrummerEsh To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3923 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-05-23 12:25:31 EDT, you write: << What I would do is go for a more "commerical singer" like Dave Grohl in Foo Fighters. That way it gives it something different and perhaps unique. >> HAHAHA this is the funniest thing i have ever read on the jam!! Would Dave also take over the drumming position and maybe a second guitar part?? hey lets have him play bass on some songs too hahaha. ~Esh~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:24:31 -0700 From: Eckie To: Ytse Jam Subject: And then the lights dimmed...(The show) Message-ID: The crowd was gettin' restless and I had punched (not literally) my way up to the second row on the right hand corner of the stage where I ran into some more of my Phx friends (goddamn I knew a lot of ppl there) and awaited the band to come out on stage. Watchin' the roadies is a fun experience, especially when one of them is a big fat guy with a white goatee and long graying hair, "HEY JERRY! GET OFF THE STAGE!" heh heh, we even got him to flick us off before he left the stage. Fun fun fun. So the stage is set. The instruments are veiled in black cloth (along with Derek's lava lamps), smoke starts flying everywhere...and I take off the do-rag.... ..and Alice in Chains' Rooster starts playing in the PA. What a damn cool tune that is...the entire crowd started singing to it (and I REALLY need to get that CD now, "Dirt"...for sentimental purposes more than anything else...the CD itself kicks ass, I know!) And then it started. The riff to A Change of Seasons blared out of the PA and the boyz took the stage. Two and a half hours of pure DT heaven ensued and by the time it was all through, I was a mound of fleshy jello with a grin ten trillion miles wide, stretching across the cosmos. Highlights: John Petrucci was RIGHT ABOVE ME shredding, staring, and shredding some more. I swear we had a psychic conversation just from the looks he was giving me! "GO JOHN GO! YOU FRICKIN' RULE!" "Whoa...look at the fro on that guy!" "Okay, I've seen you on video tapes, you can't play that fast." "Oh yes I can..." "HOLY SHIT! YOU CAN!" "HA! Next victim!" That was the coolest, JP made eye contact with just about everybody while playing them kick ass songs. Mike pointed out ppl in the audience (i think he knew who I was and where I was, he pointed a vicious drum stick right at me at one point), and the entire band was pretty much on fire. John Myung was just as impressive on that 6 string...I have NEVER seen fingers move like his!!! Portnoy spit like a camel, knocking out a couple of the EMI staff, and hitting John and James a couple times. James retaliated by sloshing a whole bottle of Avian water and soaked Mike's kit. Then Mike jumped over the bass drums and used James' forehead as a snare drum... ..okay, that part was exaggurated...but the stage antics, the clothes (Derek, YOU DA MAN!), and best of all, the MUSIC was so damn inspiring. I wanted to go home and play all night long, but I was exhausted by the end of the concert and I wouldn't dare touch my guitar with those signatures all over the back of the guitar, unfinished and unprotected from the elements (i.e., my belly). I don't need to tell any of you ppl to check these guys out when they roll through your neighborhood. ;) James was on fire. He hit every note perfectly and VERY FUCKING LOUDLY, soaring above the rest of the instruments (he even did the Doug Pinnick parts in LitS...amazing!!!) His impersonation of David Lee Roth was classic. No, I didn't mosh. :) Actually, there was like, ONE dude in the entire audience who wanted to start a pit, but eventually the crowd got fed up with him and shoved him to the outer rims of the club, near the entrance. No moshing for YOU! Two weeks! I'm even considering catching a couple of the HoB shows next time they roll through the west coast this summer. The entire set was awesome (okay, I admit...I would've preferred to have seen Mirror/Lie live than Anna Lee, but hey, it all kicked ass and dammit, I CAN'T complain!) ~Eckie can't wait 'till the next show ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:05:35 EDT From: EVO V To: email_address_removed Subject: Re:New DT vocalist??? Message-ID: My favorite vocalist of all time, more so than LaBrie, would be Geoff Tate. I've wondered who has a higher range, and I think James does, but Geoff just has that tone in his voice. I'd love to hear a collaboration with Queensryche and DT. I think someone should start up one of those charity things like that Hear N Aid thing that went on in the 80's with all the metal bands, reunite everyone and throw DT and, of course, Steve Vai on it. Anyways, Geoff Tate would be my choice if a new vocalist had to come into the band. See ya Andy D The Next Steve Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:14:12 EDT From: AURACLE To: email_address_removed Subject: A Bunch o' Stuff Message-ID: Greetings, fellow Jammer-ites... I know I haven't posted in a while (yeah, like anyone noticed ), basically because I got a bit lazy in keeping up with my recommended daily allowance of Jammage, much to my doctor's chagrin...but after sifting through a bunch of previously unread Jams, I'm back and ready to roll, so let's let the fun and festivities commence... First: Web Site coming soon! I would like to announce that my friend, the lovely and talented Christina (known to many Rush and DT fans as AnalogGal here on AOL) and I are preparing to create what we hope will be a splendid li'l web page dedicated to progressive music. She's handling all the technical stuff, i.e. the actual setup of the page, and will be contributing content as well, including some of the best DT concert photos I've ever seen, whilst I will be writing reviews, interviews, essays, features and whatever else springs to mind. To that end, I'd like to request that some of our slightly more famous friends from Shadow Gallery, Spock's Beard and Dream Theater (among others) consider doing E-mail interviews with us for use on the site. We are dedicated to putting up the very best site we can, and between Christina's "Images" and my "Words," we'd like to think that maybe we can actually pull it off. Once the page is ready to go, I'll post the URL so y'all can check it out and let us know what you think. Next: a Saturday to be remembered. A couple of weeks ago, I attended the always-amazing Second Saturday Record Show in lovely Wayne, NJ, and rejoiced, for my friend Bob Wolf of Sights & Sounds had returned to the show bearing his usual gargantuan assortment of prog-rock CDs. I was saddened, however, when he told me that next month's show may be his last, as personal circumstances may force him to close down the mail-order business that has been a labor of love for him lo, these last few years. Still, his loss was my gain, as I saved a whopping $85 off the four CDs I bought from him thanks to his relentless "nexto-last-show" price slashing. Thus it was that I came home with the following gems o' progosity: Eldritch, "Headquake" (the second, most recent album by this excellent Italian prog-metal outfit); Pageant, "Abysmal Masquerade" (terrific late 80s Japanese prog-rock featuring the vocals and keyboard work of Ms. Hiroko Nagai); "ProgFest 94" (a superb live 2-CD document of that inaugural West Coast celebration of all things prog, featuring great performances by such prog luminaries as Anekdoten, Anglagard, Kalaban, Echolyn, Kevin Gilbert's Giraffe, Minimum Vital and Sebastian Hardie); and finally another Japanese import, "It Reminds Me of Those Days," by Social Tension (the name sounds punk, but the music is pure prog in the hallowed ELP vein; the 18-minute title suite is worth the price of the disc by itself!). Happily, I then moved on to the Sentinel Steel table, home of all that is prog-metal, back for a triumphant return after its highly successful debut at the previous month's show, and snapped up five more excellent discs:. First was the self-titled debut of Arkhe, a remarkable Italian quintet whose material is very reminiscent of "Images & Words"-era DT, but with a smoother flow, if you can believe that--as you would expect, the musicians (guitarist Gianluca Ferro, keyboardist Lorenzo Milani, bassist Michele Buzzetti and drummer Claudio Riotti) display chops galore, but their strongest asset is vocalist Pino Tozzi, whose singing is clear, powerful, wide-ranging, and best of all, virtually accent-free -- great songs, magnificent musicianship and crystalline sound all comine to show that this is a band to watch closely; then I grabbed Kamelot's "Eternity" and "Dominion," both of which are strong examples of Crimson Glory-esque prog-metal, featuring the Midnight-ish vocals of Mark Vanderbilt (who has since been replaced by ex-Conception singer Roy S. Khan) and the ripping guitar work of Thom Youngblood; "Building Rome," the brand new release from Mercury Rising, which is even better than their excellent debut album ("Upon Deaf Ears"), flawlessly integrating new guitarists Mike Evans and Judd Rizzo, who also contribute great guitar synth tracks over the powerful vocals of holdovers Clarence Osborne and the strong rhythm section of bassist Chris Brush and drummer/lyricist Jeff Moos; and finally, "A Mended Rhyme," the fourth and most recent album by the Swedish quintet Tad Morose, whose new singer Urban Breed (they swear that's his real name) brings a Dio-like intensity and aggressiveness, both vocally and lyrically, to the band's most complex and sophisticated music yet. Deliriously happy with our purchases, two of my AOL friends and I then departed the show to head down to Philadelphia for a performance by the acclaimed Michigan prog outfit known as Discipline; I was very much looking forward to seeing them, as I hadn't thought I'd ever get the chance to see them outside of a ProgScape-type event. Yet while I was bummed over the fact that seeing Discipline meant NOT seeing DT, who were playing the Electric Factory the same night, fate smiled upon us and made up for it (kind of) by allowing us to meet John Petrucci, his lovely wife Rena and their adorable twins in the Hard Rock Cafe restaurant as they waited for a table. I shook JP's hand and introduced myself as a fan since 1989, which seemed to impress him somewhat. He and Rena werewarm, gracious and very friendly as my friend Perk and I sheepishly admitted we were in town not for the Electric Factory show but for Discipline's peformance at the nearby Wig & Mask Theater (besides, Perk had seen them at Irving Plaza the night before). I cursed myself for not having anything with me for JP to sign, but still, a true moment was achieved when I pointed to Steve Vai's wall-mounted guitar and said to John, "I think they ought to put one of your guitars right next to that one." He laughed and said, "That would be cool!" Rena then joked that the reason the Hard Rock didn't have one of his guitars up there already was that he gives her all of his guitars after he's done with them, and I pointed out Chris Impellitteri's guitar above us and said, "Well, if they've got one of (his) guitars in here, they really ought to have one of yours"; JP laughed again and nodded in agreement. If only we'd thought to have had our friend Rob bring his camera along to the restaurant so we could take a picture with him...oh well. Memories last longer than photographs, anyway. Anyhow, Discipline proved themselves to be an extraordinary live band, however, putting on a stunning 2-hour plus show that featured all four of the very lengthy tracks that comprise their highly acclaimed "Unfolded Like Staircase" album, as well as several selections from their debut CD, "Push and Profit" ("Diminished" and "Karmilla" are both far more powerful in concert than in their studio incarnations), and a couple of as-yet-unreleased tracks ("Circuitry" and "Homegrown"). Both CDs seemed to be selling briskly, and I managed to nab the last of the beautiful white Discipline T-shirts for a mere $20. Their amazing efforts dissolved whatever disappointment I felt over not seeing DT that night, and we returned from rain-swept Philadelphia very late and very happy. Thanks to Matthew Parmenter, a.k.a. the Singing Mime (vocals and keyboards), Jon Preston Bouda (guitar), Mathew Kennedy (bass) and Paul Dzendzel (drums) for giving the 150 or so of us fortunate souls in attendance a magical evening of progressive rock not soon to be forgotten. Oh, and Always Almost played after Discipline, but all their spirited efforts just made me miss Echolyn more. Sorry, Brett, Ray and Paul. :^( So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Those of you out there who haven't checked out Arkhe, I repeat: if you love "Images & Words," and all of us here on the Jam know you do, order this disc and prepare to be blown away. Now to order the Empty Tremor CD... Well, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Thanks to everyone who bothered to read all of this. E-mails are welcomed and encouraged, as always. Take care, everyone... -- Jeff :^) _____________________________________________ "Some world views are spacious -- and some are merely spaced." Neil Peart, "Grand Designs," 1985. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:51:33 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: another DT singer Message-ID: well, I like James, and he's grown on me, and i'd hate to see anything happen, but, we all know things can happen. I guess anyone that has seen my signature knows that I'm a huge QR fan...and hence, Geoff Tate is probably my fav singer in the world...:) Now, I question how much longer QR will be able to hold together, with DeGarmo gone, I hope they stay, but who knows....so perhaps Geoff would be available...We all know he has a great range(though he didn't display it on HitNF)But the thing that impresses me most about Geoff is his style and phrasing, and I think that would add yet another dimension to DT. He can yelp, as well as groove into a ballad, and he does have some solid experience writing...I may be way off base, but hell, that would combine my fav singer with my fav band, all for one heavenly experience for me...:) though maybe not for others.... > Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just wondering, > IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO would be a > good replacement? -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:09:56 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Phish Message-ID: I just saw mention of Phish, and yes, that's a HUGE reason why they are so unpopular with many people, because of many of their little trashy fans that follow them around. Two years ago, they played for the Louisiana Jazz and Heritage Festival, and they totally trashed the place. The fans were smelly, obnoxious little pricks, who felt like they owned the place. They told tourists not to buy the jazzfest products, to buy stuff from other fans so they could support the fans. They camped out on people's private property and generally were a public nuisance. Now, Phish is banned from playing JazzFest anymore over here because of the fans. Now, I personally can appreciate what Phish does, they are talented musicians, and play some nice ideas, though they get kind of old after a while for me. It kind of, after a while, starts to kind of all sound the same to me. I personally like bands like Widespread Panic and Galactic a whole lot more. What is a shame though, is that people judge them cuz of their fans, because so many(not all) of them are so rotten. -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:02:20 -0700 From: email_address_removed.au (Paul Dyer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: replacement singers... Message-ID: I think that Roy Khan from ex-Conception now Kamelot has an interesting voice and would make a cool replacement.... or Andre Matos (or whatever that guy from Angra's name is!) :) Cheers Paul D. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 02:52:06 -0500 From: "Ryan Whitaker" To: Subject: Fort Worth show, some spoilers Message-ID: <002401bd86e8$dbdbed40$6301430c@dwhit> Just got back from the Ft. Worth show, and WHOA, what a show! It had a *completely* different feel to it from the Lubbock show last night. If you read my last post about the Lubbock show, you'll know that it had a ton of covers with lots of random people singing with short set list. Tonight was pure Dream Theater. No covers at all except for an 'Enter Sandman' segment thrown into Peruvian Skies. The set list was definitely longer, with 'Anna Lee', 'Hollow Years', 'Lines in the Sand', 'Trial of Tears', and 'Ytsejam' (Fasten Your Seatbelts version) added. As James puts it, "Where the f*** were you all last night in Lubbock?!" =) I guess this means that the more people DT play in front of, the more down-to-business they become. Lubbock's turnout was maybe a half or a third of the Fort Worth. I say 'down-to-business', but as you all know they still looked like they were having a ton of fun up there. I didn't hang around afterwards for autographs. One of the workers said they probably weren't going to come out. So my aching legs agreed to go to my truck and drive home to a cozy bed. I saw Ryan Webb again. He was at the Lubbock show last night as well. This guy flew in from California to see all three Texas shows. Talk about a true fan. =) I also met Ken and Nicole McWatters briefly. They were among the first three people in line. I signed their banner for Portnoy. During the concert James held up this one banner, but Mike Portnoy made sure that Nicole's banner also made an appearance on stage. That was very cool. Anyways, it was nice meeting you guys, even if it was for two seconds. I'm sure I'll see you all again at the San Antonio show! I got the show on tape, but the tape sucks. I have a lot of either 1) dropouts or 2) blank spaces due to bad connection to my machine or something. It's a shame, because the quality of what's there sure sounds great. =) Oh well, gotta go to bed. I'm exhausted. My back and legs are killing me after standing for 8 hours straight two nights in a row. Not to mention the hours spent in the waiting line that I had a DAT recorder in my crotch, which isn't too comfortable. I'm sure somebody else like Brian Cox got this show on tape, so at least it's out there somewhere. Wondering if I'm in DT heaven, Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3924 **************************