YTSEJAM Digest 3923 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Mike Piazza Is a Met?!?!?!? (FWC) by The iban 2) new singer by Jason Hartman 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3922 by email_address_removed 4) Kevin Moore joins Queensryche! by Brian Hansen 5) Re: A new DT singer?!!!!! by James Thorpe 6) So there we were....(Pre-DT, into the club) by Eckie 7) Re: A new DT singer by Christian P Kremo 8) Re: new singer by graham boyle 9) Re: Re: tall vs. getting there early by Roger Kowalski 10) Re: Replacement Singers / Fantasy Singers by Beyond the Mirror 11) LTE...BUY THIS CD!!! by NuGgeTMaN 12) DT News of the Week! by "KorgX3" 13) Re: replacement singer by "Andreas Berger" 14) DT SINGERS!! by Wcphill 15) Lubbock show short summary, small spoilers by "Ryan Whitaker" 16) San Antonio show!!! by Tone add9 17) Re: replacement singer by Craig Griffith 18) Re: replacement singer by "TheCowGod" 19) J KERR - HERE! by "Scott Sturdivant" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:10:27 EDT From: The iban To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mike Piazza Is a Met?!?!?!? (FWC) Message-ID: what FW video? it is professionally done? can i buy it somewhere? Rocky ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:41:20 -0400 From: Jason Hartman To: email_address_removed Subject: new singer Message-ID: If James should get the boot, i'd LOVE to see Devin Townsend take over!! Then he could actually do some singing (ala Vai and Working Man) and not just his explosive screeching (SYL and Ocean Machine). Of course I'd also love to see Devy Wevy take over in Pantera but that's another story... Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:48:15 -0500 (CDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3922 Message-ID: <<-The Next John Petrucci :)>> Gaaa! I was gonna start using that! Oh well, guess I'll have to come up with something else then..... Matt -The next Alex Lifeson ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:37:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Moore joins Queensryche! Message-ID: Just kidding! So if someone had to take over for JLB on vocals, my vote would be for Geoff Tate. Maybe that's too obvious. How about Graham Bonnet? I'm sure he'd jump at the chance (If he's not collecting Social Security). He's recorded with Richie Blackmore, Micheal Schenker, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Chris Impelliteri, etc. I'm sure he'd like to add Petrucci to his list of "guitars gods I've worked with"... my .02, BH _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:09:17 -0700 From: James Thorpe To: Subject: Re: A new DT singer?!!!!! Message-ID: <01bd85ef$ca5fdd00$0100007f@localhost> >>I can only think of one person that i wouldn't mind to replace JLB and that is >Seb Bach > Sebastian is a killer singer and would fit the James LaBrie mold. What I would do though is try to do something a little different. Most Prog bands have singers that are Geoff Tate/Ray Alder/James LaBrie clones. What I would do is go for a more "commerical singer" like Dave Grohl in Foo Fighters. That way it gives it something different and perhaps unique. peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:20:23 -0700 From: Eckie To: Ytse Jam Subject: So there we were....(Pre-DT, into the club) Message-ID: waiting in the large line just pouring from the front gates. A bazillion of ppl I've met throughout the past couple years (just from following prog metal and the local prog scene) found our group and cut in line, it was fantastic. Fun for the whole ytse-family. :D Yes, Mike Bahr was even there with bootlegs in hand, he even snuck past the security and yes, the ytsejam tailgaters for his pre-show rituals with Portnoy (I guess). Thanks for gettin' the backstage passes for us Mike, we appreciate it! ;) Bah, we didn't need 'em anyways.... So I reached into my pocket to make sure I still had my paint pen, and the OTHER pen (blue ink) I had in that same pocket had spontaneously combusted! Ink all over the place! And my hands were very very very blue. Without a hanky (other than my do-rag, and that was being used for a far more important purpose) available I proceeded to wipe my blue hands against the wall of the establishment, and moved all my personal on-hand possessions in the other pocket. You're wondering why I'm babbling on about this. Let me explain that the EMI crew working the club that night were complete ASSHOLES, each and every one of them, aside from the two women who were keeping the crowd behind the yellow tape after the show. I walked up to the guy doing the pat-down search in front of the entrance, and while reaching for my wallet and keys, my $5 silver paint pen fell out onto the ground. The manager behind the doorguy picked it up before either of us could blink and said I couldn't go into the club with it. After trying to convince him that I wasn't going to tag anything with it, and that it was for the band to autograph my guitar with, he placed it on the ledge and said "Well, I'll leave it right here, and if it's still here after the show, you can have it." So he wanted to be a dickwad. No matter, I had plenty of blue ink all over my hands. I walked right into the bathroom, got my hands wet with soap and water, and just splashed blue ink ALLLLL over the bathroom stalls, walls, mirrors, with everybody cheering me on ('cuz just about everybody saw the paint pen incident and was enjoying watching me cussing about the doorguy). >;P Anyways, I tried settling down by finding a nice place to sit on a table that wasn't being used for ANYTHING...nobody was around it...until i sat down on it and one of the EMI staff barked at me to get off of it, "Hey! You can't sit on the tables!" Not that my legs didn't mind. I had only been standing for 4 straight hours prior to that moment. The lights dimmed and I found a place in the middle of the floor where most of the AZ ytsecrew was hanging out, and Full on Mouth started their set. Aside from the uh...4 fans in the front left side of the stage area, the entire club was standing dead still, silent, and smirking at one another. It got so bad I became the entertainment for the ytsecrew, making oddball faces at the band hoping it would provoke some sorta reaction in their playing. Not that a D chord in 4/4 in D tuning isn't a tough thing to distract anybody from.... Eh, they just weren't my cup o' joe. Ala Gravity Kills, they had to press a "Play" button to start their act. They were real nice guys but whoever tagged these guys on the same ticket as Dream Theater either needs to be shot or work at McDonalds as the janitor. You gotta be a fuckin' idiot to pair these two bands together. ~Eckie Petrucci ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A new DT singer Message-ID: > From: alistair young > Subject: A new DT singer?!!!!! > Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just wondering, > IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO would be a > good replacement? I say import Michael Kiske from Germany. If Maiden was too stupid to pick up on him, and if DT was in need of a new singer, then I'd like to see Kiske in DT. I just dig his voice. He seems to have a range compatible with DT, has always sounded pretty emotional to me, and did a fine job in Helloween. However, I think a sadder day would be Petrucci leaving DT. -C# ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:29:10 +1000 From: graham boyle To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: new singer Message-ID: Jason Hartman wrote: > If James should get the boot, i'd LOVE to see Devin Townsend take over!! > Then he could actually do some singing (ala Vai and Working Man) and not > just his explosive screeching (SYL and Ocean Machine). Townsend has to have THE most annoying voice I have ever heard, he ruined Vai's S&R album for me, if he ever did join DT, I'd drop em like a tonne of bricks :) graham ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 01:03:03 -0400 From: Roger Kowalski To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Re: tall vs. getting there early Message-ID: Well, I'm 6'2 and approx 205lbs. If I get to a concert early, I'll still wind up not in front... The only way you can avoid the tall monsters is by moving around them. It's really not their fault they're as tall as they are. It's the way they are and they have to live their lives being big. It's actually easier if you are small to get to the front of a crowd. You really just have to say 'excuse me' and any decent person would let you through... I mean, what is the guy gonna say - "no?" As for the moshing bit - argh - moshing is just another dance, man. It's an aggressive dance, I'll give you that. It's a dance in which one can get seriously injured, I'll give you that too. But, in concert, there's really no stopping it. If you want to express yourself, you just do it in any way you know how. A lot of Metal (Dream Theater is still concidered Prog Metal right?), if not ALL metal, causes moshing. It's there and it's not going away. Sorry :| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 00:11:57 -0500 From: Beyond the Mirror To: "'YJ Digest'" Subject: Re: Replacement Singers / Fantasy Singers Message-ID: <> Sebastian Bach? No way. Not only does he lack the "Mature Vibe" needed for DT but I've heard that his voice has been toasted by too much screaming. If James did leave, I think that there are a number of currently unknown singers who could vie for the job. This reminds me, the cover songs on ACOS represent bands with some of the best singers in rock history (Mercury, Perry, Plant, etc.). LaBrie does a fine tribute to each and is probably a better technical singer than any of them (except maybe for Perry). However, when given a choice, I'd still would rather hear the original artists sing these songs than JL in pretty much every case. I think that this is a testament to how much character the original singers gave their own songs. On the flipside, it's fun to envision some of these legends fronting DT. In particular, could you imagine Freddie Mercury (if he were still alive, duh) on stage with DT singing Pull Me Under, Wait for Sleep, Caught in a Web, Burning my Soul or Lines in the Sand? Personally, I think that's a combination that would have worked great. Comments anyone? PS: Sammy Hagar would probably take the job:-) Josh Becker email_address_removed http://www.beyondthemirror.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 01:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: LTE...BUY THIS CD!!! Message-ID: I Finally got enough $$$ to buy LTE...and all I hafta say is THIS ALBUM RULES!!!! Oh my lord Jordan kicks some MEAN keyboard Ass!!! This is the first time I've heard his work, and I'm VERY impressed. O.k. that's all I hafta say about that ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^ ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^ ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^ ^ would have 4 sharps. ^ ^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^ ^ and "Progressive Genius" ^ ^ The Dream theater and Progressive Metal WebRings ^ ^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://www.wezl.org/lift ^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 01:44:42 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: DT News of the Week! Message-ID: <01bd861e$a596b460$310d84d0@korgx3> Derek Sherinian of Dream Theater is Elvis Presley's illegitimate son. Proof has been discovered by.examining old podiatrical records of Elvis and comparing them to Mr. Sherinian's. Revealed is that they have similar phalangelical structures and that also, as well, do they have the same fungal patterns growing on their toenails. He is now seeking the advice of a legal professional to obtain part of what he claims is his rightful inheritance. Elvis fans across the world are in a disfervor over the situation. James LaBrie was last seen carrousing through Arizona in a rented Audi with hair glued all over it. Reports are that he's bald as a cue ball and was growling at innocent pedestrians like a grizzly bear. Supposedly he is mourning the loss of his beloved caribou and rockchuck, "Bert and Ernie," respectively, who were forcefed 50 pounds of effervescent tablets by 2 KGB agents known as Boris and Natasha. They were last seen fleeing the crime scene muttering something about "No more moose and squirrel." John Myung finally got that voice box and tracheotomy he always wanted. He no longer has to embarrasingly make finger gestures and grunts to communicate with other band members. Mike Portnoy was stated as saying that his dream has always been to be a horticulturalist and that drumming is just his last step before enrolling in college to become such. Rumor has it his ambitions are leading towards the development of a "soy bomb." Scientists are baffled as to what the potency of such a weapon might be. John Petrucci thinks that Mike Portnoy is an idiot. Kevin Moore sighting: Last report is that he was entertaining children in Jersey City by removing his prosthetic testicles and playing jacks with them. He was soon accosted by the local law enforement officials and is now awating trial for indecent exposure and lewd and lascivious conduct. He faces a $1000 fine and up to 1 year imprisonment. Said children believed the penalty to be unjust and killed several of their schoolmates. Mr. Moore claimed to have no involvement in the schoolground massacre. Back to your regularly scheduled jamming. --KorgX3 a.k.a. The Next Tiny Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:21:05 +0200 From: "Andreas Berger" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Re: replacement singer Message-ID: <01bd862c$1d72fcc0$LocalHost@p100> Andrew Miller wrote: >:Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just >:wondering, IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO >:would be a good replacement? > >two people immediately come to mind: Mike Patton and Devin Townsend Hell yeah!! Outside of the prog scene those two are definitely my favourite singers. I also think that they are so versatile that they could sing just about *anything*. Just listen to the many cover versions that FNM did (I'm still grieving about their breakup). I also seem to be one of the very few people who think that Devin's interpreatation of Natural Science was one of the highlights of the Working Man tribute. Mike and Dev probably wouldn't fit into DT because of their personalities, but I'd love to hear both of them singing a few DT songs. I'm still convinced that James is the best that could happen to DT after Charlie's departure though... BTW: Does anyone have some information about Devin's new "Infinity" project and Mike Patton's new band "Fantomas"? I also heard that a new "Mr. Bungle" album was on the way... Take Care, Andreas Berger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:33:33 EDT From: Wcphill To: email_address_removed Subject: DT SINGERS!! Message-ID: In a message dated 5/22/98 7:19:25 PM Central Daylight Time, email_address_removed writes: << > :Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just > :wondering, IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO > :would be a good replacement? >> I believe that Ray Alder of FW would be one of the few good choices if James were to leave. His voice has a huge range (probably greater than JLB) and his voice is beautiful and full of emotion. The Savatage guy would be good too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:55:53 -0500 From: "Ryan Whitaker" To: Subject: Lubbock show short summary, small spoilers Message-ID: <001901bd8641$ca82ae00$4100430c@dwhit> Just got back from my 5-hour trek back home from the Lubbock show. A short summary follows, as it's 6AM in the morning and I haven't had sleep in a day and a half. A longer review of this show and the upcoming Ft. Worth and San Antonio shows are coming later as well. According to James, this show was the most laid back and strange concert the band's ever done. Lots and lots of covers, James seemed to get a little pissed at how many covers they did as shown by, "Ok, do you want covers or do you want Dream Theater?" Portnoy's fat drum tech sang a song which was funny but actually sounded good. Derek Sherinian ran out front and sang like Roth on a Van Halen song which was hilarious. Portnoy mooned towards Sherinian's direction twice. The one and only drumming competitor didn't get the point and kept on playing when Portnoy tried playing, so the whole thing seemed like a jumbled mess. It was freaking hot in the club. Very short setlist. No "Lines in the Sand" or "New Millenium" like I've always heard were part of the setlists in previous concerts. No "Ytsejam", either. "Voices" made it, which was one of the songs I was hoping for. A lot of other similar things that have happened in recent concerts happened, too, but I'm just trying to point out differences. I talked to Portnoy afterwards and he asked if I was going to the Ft. Worth show, and I said yes, and he said, "Good, then you can see a real show." I also talked to Labrie, asked him about a live album, and he said it's a very strong possibility in the near future. They're talking to the label about it. I was the first person in line, and I was the first and *only* person in line from about 4:30PM until 6:00PM. I guess I arrived too early. =) But because of that, before the concert I did get Myung's and Petrucci's signature on the only thing on me at the time, my ticket. Then when I went inside the guy taking tickets tore my ticket in half and gave me the half with Myung's signature, even at the request of me to keep the ticket whole! So he got Petrucci's. Sucks. About three varieties of t-shirts, a big program, and a pin were for sale. I grabbed the black t-shirt with the pictures of the guys on front. The program is very cool. I got everybody to sign in there, so that will be a keepsake. Some guy got his back signed by everybody and is going to have those signatures tattooed on him. I can't remember anything else at the moment, because my brain is already sleeping on me. =) The coolest thing to me is that I got an awesome recording of the entire concert. I thought the acoustics in the club sucked. I couldn't hear James' voice clearly at all when I was in there, but on the recording everything's really clear. Probably the best audience recording I've heard from any of this tour and pre-tour so far. I listened to the entire concert three times driving back to Dallas. Those Energizer Lithium AA's are to thank for that lengthy listening pleasure on those normally power-sucking PCM-M1 DAT recorders. The concert can be summarized as DT having a ton o' fun and still managing to be tight throughout. Definitely worth the trip. Again, longer summary coming later! Take care, Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:16:23 EDT From: Tone add9 To: email_address_removed Subject: San Antonio show!!! Message-ID: some how my post got under some one else's name so the correct address to private mail for correspondence on the DT in SAN ANTONIO show(lastbefore Europe?) is email_address_removed.....thanx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:21:49 -0400 From: Craig Griffith To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: replacement singer Message-ID: subtlerage wrote: > :Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just > :wondering, IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO > :would be a good replacement? > > two people immediately come to mind: Mike Patton and Devin Townsend > > /me hides in his nuclear fallout shelter No, actually, I agree with you completely...Mike Patton WOULD be a great replacement, except he's currently in two bands which are both working on new albums. These would be Mr. Bungle and Fantomas. He might be just a little too wild for DT, though. Think Derek cubed. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:06:01 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: replacement singer Message-ID: <001101bd866d$10a44440$message_id_removed> subtlerage wrote: > :Don't worry jammers, James is not leaving the band. I was just > :wondering, IF he did leave (and a sadder day there might never be), WHO > :would be a good replacement? > > two people immediately come to mind: Mike Patton and Devin Townsend Now THAT'S someting i'd love to hear. Devin Townsend joins DT. yess. :) Moo. -- "I lost my vision in a tragic gambling accident." -- Mike Portnoy, "A Change of Seasons" Dan McCormack email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:13:27 -0400 From: "Scott Sturdivant" To: Subject: J KERR - HERE! Message-ID: <003501bd8665$ba614e40$message_id_removed> Um, attention all! I'm searching for the proper email address of J. Kerr. He posted about a possible trade for DT's Mosaic for a select group of Rush bootlegs. Well, I replied to his listed address (email_address_removed) but it was returned. Well, if anyone knows his address, or if J Kerr reads this, please mail me at email_address_removed so that this will remain off of the jam! For the DT content: Sebastian Bach as the next JLB?!?! What are you people insane!!?!?! My goodness...thats just wrong... Scott Sturdivant ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3923 **************************