YTSEJAM Digest 3910 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3907 by Phil Carter 2) Conception/Kamelot by Devs0432 3) A Tired Fire croaks her thoughts on the SF Show by Carol Dellinger 4) DT at HoB by email_address_removed 5) woot and zoiter's excellent adventure by "woot" 6) 25 prog-guys for every prog-girl... by email_address_removed 7) Chroma Key and kamelot by Phillip 8) Re: On her knees! She was on her knees, I tell you! by Damon Fibraio 9) Re: quotes by Damon Fibraio 10) Re: Conception/Kamelot by Lisa Marie 11) Rhythmscape by Perk1994 12) Re: DT summer tour date ???? by Mark Bredius 13) re: cybercast by Madsag 14) This really sucks!!! by Damon Fibraio 15) commercial posts by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 16) DP/DT/ELP tour dates by email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:52:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3907 Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Kurt wanted to know: > Forgive me if this has been asked before, but if someone went back in time > and erased Dream Theater from human history, who would your favorite band be > today? This is actually kind of scary, not because the answer's difficult -- Rush is my favorite band with DT very close behind -- but because I realized how much music I'd be missing out on if I'd never heard of DT. I saw "Pull Me Under" on MTV, got into the band, discovered the ytsejam, and through the 'jam discovered approximately 5,318 prog bands that I would have never heard about otherwise. Wow. Makes ya think. Thanks everybody for the recommendations -- and keep 'em coming! Ta, Phil ======================================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed (work), email_address_removed (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: "Phantom of the Opera" -- Original London Cast ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:05:17 EDT From: Devs0432 To: email_address_removed Subject: Conception/Kamelot Message-ID: << Roy Khan exsinger from Conception (does this mean they have split?)is their new singer (Tore Ostby also does some lead on the new album) >> Yup, they've split, unfortunately. If anyone can point me to where I can listen to some of Kamelot's stuff, I'd be interested. Thanks Alex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:14:16 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger To: email_address_removed Subject: A Tired Fire croaks her thoughts on the SF Show Message-ID: I have had *some* sleep and my voice is still hoarse but my fingers can type out my thoughts on Saturday. This actually was a Dream Theater (Are they anything like Nightmare Cinema?) weekend. Friday night: Ryan Webb shows up at my door with a surprise that he just HAD to show to me and Lisa Marie. I was bummin when he got there and he handed me a belated b-day card from Matt. Then there is this knock at my door which I knew was not Lisa Marie yet so I look thru the peephole and there is this cute guy out there...I open the door to the surprise....Matt "M-Bone" Schnoor! Ryan you did it...you and Matt really surprised all of us! I promptly page Lisa and tell her she MUST come over to get the surprise that night and show us her new Car! She called from the driveway to come down and see the car (a brand new 98 Black Mustang) and she was surprised to see Bones! Saturday: Ryan and Bones pick me and Lauren up so we can drop her at Lisa's mom's and go pick up Pam before heading to Dave and Kim Thomas' place for the CaliCrew pre-show party! Wow when we pull up to Pam's apt. was she ever surprised! Bones you really pulled this off! And you lied to us...you will pay babe! Off to Dave and Kim's! Wow what a turnout of Cali Crew! Got to see old friend Jammers Dave, Kim, Brian, Neil, Nicole, and Paul and meet some new ones, who I will shoot myself cause I can't remember everyone! It was awesome to meet Chris Oates and his friends Chris and Stephan. Between 2 Matt's and 2 Chris' all I could think of was "HI! I'm Larry and this is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl!" And then I get the distinct honor of meeting THE MattB! It was a great pleasure to finally meet you! And yes, it's true I was on my knees in front of him! A word here, Dave and Kim, you guys are a class act! Thanks for opening your home to the Jammers for our gathering! You show what true Jammer spirit is all about! The show would have been better if you could have joined us in more than spirit! We piled outside for a BIG group picture of the Crew with the Banner.....Everybody say "Balls and chunk!" Onward to the show! MattB was right, we were just flying up there in Lisa's new Pony I shall call Black Lightning! Man the gods were with us that night as we found parking right at the door to the Maritime Hall! More meets and Greets to other Jammers we caught up with: Randall Braun, Sis, Rick Audet, Dr. Mosh, who I must say was brunette that night and looking quite fetching for his damn self! (thanks D for the pass!), Steve and Matt Guillory! Cali Crew was in full effect that night! And yes I did lose my voice before we got to the show and still haven't gotten it back yet. After waiting in the chilly wind, they finally let us in and I got to snatch up a promo square and poster for my collection! WooHoo! Went upstairs to the stage and found places to stand! I was able to pick up some programs and a DT pin! Full on the Mouth came on and hey IMO they were not bad. I was dancing and grooving to it, so much so that I went out and bought the CD that night! Good thing I did cause I got it signed by the Bass player and Guitarist later! Finally...this is it..the Rooster. MattB nearly lost his mind singing this song along with the rest of the crowd! And once the music from Clockwork Orange started and the lights dropped the crowd surged forward as one and away we go! I can't remember every song they played as I was in heaven just being there but I can say that the band looked very relaxed and Happy to be there! James' voice was awesome and right on the money! Hearing Speak to Me for the first time was awesome. Derek's solo to Lines in the Sand slayed me. Mike Portnoy does it all, he sang, played keys, played guitar! Hey the man's an Animal and we love him! The look on John Petrucci's face when he played My Way in his solo and we sang along! The heavy solid pounding bottom of John Myung's bass at the intro to Trial of Tears! Mike's Wandering solo. Being there with my best friends, and watching MattB's face light up at seeing Dream Theater for the first time. A camera was gotten inside the show and Bones says he took pics during the first 4 songs. I'll get then developed soon! Only low point, getting moshed by dunk people! After show, Bones and I got to meet Derek and I got a OH! You're Carol from Derek when I got his autograph. Getting more pics and sigs from James who loves his new haircut for the wash and go effect! Going outside and getting JohnP to sign one last autograph while waiting for Mike. Got to finally catch up with Mark Philpot (HI!). Now is the moment......MIKE "ANIMAL" PORTNOY! Once again Mike is a class act. Actually all the guys in DT are class acts! I got some autographs and a hello from Mike and then the moment that we waited for....we gave Mike the Cali Crew Banner that I must stop and give props to Lisa Marie for her creative brilliance. This banner would not be in existence without you my best friend! We opened up the banner in front of the bus and Mike liked it! We got him to stand behind the banner in the middle and we gathered around to get pics of this momentous occasion! Mike, I hope you enjoy the banner as much as we did making it for you! Once again, thanks to Dream Theater. You bring people together! Watch for more details when the pics get done! A still very sore, tired, hoarse, but unbelievably HAPPY... Coldfire email_address_removed Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows "Fly where your dreams go....." Crystalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:35:33 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT at HoB Message-ID: Well, here's my review of Sunday night's show at House of Blues: INFUCKINGCREDIBLE!! 'nuff said. Rockercat P.S. Petrucci is God. 'nuff said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:35:59 -0600 From: "woot" To: Subject: woot and zoiter's excellent adventure Message-ID: <000b01bd8283$7efedb00$message_id_removed> Well I just drove in from the coast and man is my butt tired! *rimshot* But seriously, folks... You can imagine what my inbox looks like after being gone for 5 days, so if anything has already been said gimme a break. A few observations: There is only one place in the whole city of SF where it's legal to make a left turn and it's always on the other side of town no matter where you are. Derek needs to practice catching drum sticks thrown at him. He never caught one all night and Mike was constantly hucking 'em at him. Derek needs to be higher in the mix. There were very few times when Derek was even audible. Derek's signature looks more like a seismograph impersonation than a name. KJLB and MP are the coolest guys I've ever met. I think JP was really tired or something and JM never says anything. I didn't get to talk to Derek. He only hung around long enough to practice his lie detector impersonation on a few people's posters/liner notes and do a Nicky Lemons pose for somebody. KJ and MP were very cool and were very appreciative when I told them how long I traveled. ( KJ = No shit? MP = REALLY?!? ) The other two guys said something like "thanks." KJ also said that they were going to try to make it up to somewhere close to Idaho/Utah soon. They are coming back to SF with Deep Purple in August. Quite a few people (including my brother, Zoiter) didn't even notice that JM ever came out of the bus. He must have ninja training or something. He lurks in the shadows and speaks only when necessary. I was the first one to talk to him and he seemed very cool if not a bit (er... very) shy. Lisa Marie has an uncanny resemblance to one of my ex-gf's (except for the leather *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*) It was really cool to meet all the jammers that were there. Matt B, Mr. and Mrs. Jenny Bear, *chuckle* Chris, um and all the other ones that I can't remember. I had third row on JP's side for the concert and he'd come out to the very end of the stage for at least half his solos and play them right in my face. It was extremely cool. Mike's Drum solo, which included grabbing a snare and taking it out into the crowd and doing little snare duets with crowd members was awesome. JP is a big ham. You could tell he was loving every minute of the concert. He was always getting thing looks on his face like "You think that was cool? Watch this!" He is the man and everything though so that's fine by me. The best part was when he played some opera song ("I did it my way" or something) and was all wiping tears from his eyes and stuff. Paradigm shift was extremely cool also. My bro thanked mike for playing it and he thanked my bro for knowing it. hehe Mike has the FII cover on his bass drums now. The guy in the white shirt is on the left one and the guy in the tan vest is on the right one. Full on the Mouth was much better than I expected. The guitarist (nipple rings, tattoos, leather pants, greasy dreads and all) kinda sucked, but the music was pretty cool. I was thinking that it'd make good video game music and then NotHagar mentioned that 2 of their songs are going to be on the Road Rash 3 soundtrack. Best I can describe it is electronic metal. Just don't expect anything more difficult than power chords (In dropped D tuning, no less). I only got pulled over once the whole trip. Ironic how it was for going 36 in a "25" (it was an onramp. feh.) When I'd been passing cops going 100 the whole trip. I didn't get a ticket though so it's all good. In all the whole trip was somewhere approaching 2000 miles, but it was well worth it, especially since there's so much cool stuff to do in SF. We were there for 2 whole days and still didn't get to do all that we wanted to. I'd never want to live there, but it was awesome to visit. I know I'm missing a bunch of stuff but it's probably all been posted anyway. oh yea here's one. MP yawned and had an overall bored look on his face during the instrumental section of Metropolis. They must have played that song ten thousand times by now but he shouldn't be able to yawn during that. Yikes. woot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:40:24 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: 25 prog-guys for every prog-girl... Message-ID: Message to Coldfire--- Hey girlfriend, me-thinks you need to move to LA. It was prog-guy heaven. Seems they try to hit on you whether or not you're taken! Not a problem from my end! :-) This ytse-female just needs to figure out how to leave her ytse-husband at home! Ohhhhhhhhh, the perils of being among the minority!!! heh heh heh rockercat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:46:17 +0000 From: Phillip To: email_address_removed Subject: Chroma Key and kamelot Message-ID: Hey there. Does anyone know where I can preorder ChromaKey and Kamelot so that I can get them as close to the release date as possible? I don't want to be sitting around for three months while I hear how good they are waiting for them to come in. Thanks Phillip NP: Cradle of Filth "Cruelty and the Beast" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: On her knees! She was on her knees, I tell you! Message-ID: Matt, you suck. I hate you. You were my friend, but now you aren't. How could you? (BTW, is so that matt knows I am kidding, since if he is anything like me, he can't see :()) -- Damon Fibraio, email_address_removed Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:56:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: quotes Message-ID: Can somebody explaint his quote thing to me? -- Damon Fibraio, email_address_removed Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:04:47 -0700 From: Lisa Marie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Conception/Kamelot Message-ID: At 10:24 AM 5/18/98 -0700, you wrote: > ><< Roy Khan exsinger from Conception (does this mean they have split?)is > their new singer (Tore Ostby also does some lead on the new album) >> > >Yup, they've split, unfortunately. If anyone can point me to where I can >listen to some of Kamelot's stuff, I'd be interested. Thanks You can find sound samples on the Noise Records website: http://www.noiserecords.com/noise.html Here's the direct link to the Kamelot section: http://www.noiserecords.com/sounds/soundscat.html#k _____________________________________ Lisa Marie email_address_removed http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _____________________________________ THOUGHTS - Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:33:34 EDT From: Perk1994 To: email_address_removed Subject: Rhythmscape Message-ID: Hello everyone, Did anyone on this list that was at the Irving Plaza show get a copy of the two-song sampler from the band Rhythmscape? I am friends with the band and was fortunate enough to listen to their forthcoming CD. It is some of the best prog-metal I've heard in a long time (and I'm not just saying that because they are my friends!). Among the influences are Dream Theater (of course), Iron Maiden, Fates Warning, and bands of the like. I'd love to hear what others thought of the sampler. Please e-mail me privately, unless you REALLY like the band. Then post to the list. : ) These guys are really good and need all the help they can get in getting their music heard. Thanks, Adam Perkowsky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:50:36 +0200 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Cc: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Re: DT summer tour date ???? Message-ID: Steve Zebrowski asked : > Is there a FINALIZED list of dates/venues for the > DT/DP/ELP tour this summer? Nope. The North American dates after August 17 are DEFINATELY not confirmed yet. And apparently all the dates *before* that aren't finalized yet EITHER... except for the ones that are already on sale, of course. But then again, you never know. ;-) Best thing would be to keep checking UACM or the Official Deep Purple Webpages. I keep in touch with Svante from the DP site, and mail him whenever someone here posts info that contradicts their list of dates/venues... Trust me, as soon as all venues and dates are confirmed, the info will be on UACM. > and I mean a REAL list, not a list of TBA's and possible > dates. :) The TBA's are a dead giveaway that there IS no finalized list of dates/venues yet. ;-) _____ Oh yeah, just added another page of #Ytsejam quotes to "Itchy's Dream Theater Homepage" at : http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm :-) Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: email_address_removed * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:40:26 EDT From: Madsag To: email_address_removed Subject: re: cybercast Message-ID: >>Dammit! The liveconcerts cybercast of the HOB show cut off right as the encore was beginning. Right when the opening strains of Metropolis started, the player stopped. Fuckers.<< just about EVERYONE on IRC lost the connection but a couple of us didnt have any problems at all. my connection never even stopped. i felt bad for those who wont get to see the band anytime soon. then again, thats what yall get for making fun of aol. mu ha ha ha haaaaaaaa. i think people on the lower connection (28.8) were the lucky ones who didnt lose it. >>Has James's voice been like that every show or was he just hoarse or something on the cybercast. Sure hope it's not that way in DFW next week<< james sounded fine two weeks ago in cincy, not at all tired or hoarse. he sounded ok to me too at the beginning of the cybercast but it was apparent to me pretty quick that he was probably vocally tired, in my experience the first thing to go is enunciation and your high notes. i noticed he wasnt doing the usual things with the melody, i.e. taking the safer, lower notes. as the show went on i really started to worry for him although i know he is trained so hes knows how to handle that situation. then i was told they are playing monday, tuesday, and wednesday =\. i dont know what his normal "recovery" period is or how he sounds the next day after a straining night but man, that can be scary. as a singer that just hard to hear. there are medical treatments one can get for vocal problems when theres a gig on the line, usually a steroid shot to get rid of the inflammation (ndtc - tori amos was on steroids for part of her club tour for the same thing) but thats risky as you could possibly hurt yourself worse in the long run by the false comfort that provides. james definitely sounded like he could use a couple days rest. also wanted to say thanks to everyone whos made me feel really welcome on #ytsejam, i know theres probably a lot of us new faces there but yall are making me feel right at home =). take care yall melissa email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Dream Theater Mailing list Subject: This really sucks!!! Message-ID: OK, not only do I miss every DT show in my area due to lack of hearts from the east coast, but now I miss a real audio concert? Why me!!! This really isn't fair. Screw you all, I am moving out to Cali. I don't know how, but .. I am moving. Anybody want to help? -- Damon Fibraio, email_address_removed Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:53:53 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: commercial posts Message-ID: Hey All ... Just wanted to make a quick comment on this. If you would like to post something commercial to the jam (selling CDs, selling music equipment, selling X-rated videos of Derek with Pamela Anderson, etc), PLEASE keep the posts VERY short (like under 10 lines) and point people to a URL or ask them to mail you or something. This list isn't for commercial type posts, but I don't mind them if they are short and let people find out other info elsewhere. Thanks! Skadz Ytsejam Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:11:17 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: email_address_removed Subject: DP/DT/ELP tour dates Message-ID: Someone mentioned about he DP/DT/ELP tour dates. Here is what i found. The Abandon US Tour 1998/99 Featuring Special Guests ELP and Dream Theater August 6 PNC Bank Arts Center, tickets on Holmdel, NJ August 7 Meadows Music Theater Hartford, CT August 8 Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts Mansfield, MA August 9 Jones Beach Ampitheater Wantagh, NY August 11 TBA Philadelphia, PA August 12 TBA Washington D.C. August 14 Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center Canandaigua, NY August 15 Pine Knob Music Theater Clarkston, MI August 17 Colleseum De Quebec Quebec City, QUE August 18 Molson Center Montreal, QUE August 19 Molson Amphitheater Toronto, ONT August 21 Blossom Music Center Cuyahoga Falls, OH August 22 World Music Theater Tinley Park, IL August 23 Grand Casino Amphitheater Hinckley, MN August 25 TBA Colorado Springs, CO August 26 Fiddler's Green Amphitheater Greenwood Village August 28 TBA Las Vegas, NV August 29 Kaiser Auditorium San Francisco, CA August 30 Universal Amphitheater Unviersal City, CA August 31 TBA San Diego, CA NOTE: North American dates after August 17 are TENTATIVE and NOT CONFIRMED. Anyone knows where the Kaiser Auditorium is? Regards, AE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3910 **************************