YTSEJAM Digest 3899 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Hearing, Ataxia, and Steve's word choices... by Carol Dellinger 2) Simon Phillips by Matej Grginic 3) Vai vs. Petrucci by email_address_removed (Greg Jones) 4) New CD Reviews On Pixel Planet by Dave Thomas 5) Re: Blind? & Left Coasters by Lisa Marie 6) Re: radio friendly new millennjium by Damon Fibraio 7) The Vic/Chi show by "D. Frantz" 8) lack of hootenanny and the East Coast :P by Devs0432 9) Re: Hearing, Ataxia, and Steve's word choices... by Al Balkiewicz 10) Re: Blind? & Left Coasters by Matt Johnston 11) Re: Blind? BOnus Track: Girlfriends by Matt Johnston 12) Live video / A boot would be cool.... by Joe DeAngelo 13) Re: Vai vs. Petrucci by EVO V 14) Live video by Jon Kretschmer 15) URGENT!!!! PROGRAM NEEDED!!! by Al Balkiewicz 16) Geeks, er, I mean, Greeks (NDTC) by Kevin Madden 17) Re: DT/ELP/DP by "BassicRob" 18) New email up by "C. Mustard" 19) Attn: Brian Kirk! by "C. Mustard" 20) Re: today's specials - $10 goodies (CDr) by graham boyle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:09:54 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Hearing, Ataxia, and Steve's word choices... Message-ID: Steve was embarrassed to admit: 'sokay. I basically just hate the word "girlfriend." It makes me feel like I'm 15 years old. Like: "I went to the movies with my girlfriend this wekend." "how'd it go?" "Well, first my mom dropped us off at the mall..." You get the point. :) Steve...here's a great word to use: how about " Meet my Lady! you will melt her hear, gain more respect and yes it's an adult word! No Mallrats connotations. Lady Coldfire Coldfire email_address_removed Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows "Fly where your dreams go....." Crystalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:24:34 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: Simon Phillips Message-ID: Hello Jammers.. I finally got the Simon Phillips` CD "Another Lifetime" after seeing his concert live a month ago. Okay, this may not be the hardest kick ass music, but it`s IMO very progressive. It gets quite jazzy at times but the harmonies just can`t seem to cease to amaze me. Simon is one helluva drumplayer (I put him on my list right after allmighty Mike) and the rest of the musicians are wonderful too. U might have heard of Andy Timmons (he`s got 4 CD`s out and I can`t get any of `em here *doh*), he`s one of the most amazing guitarists I`ve ever heard. He sounds very fresh, very original and dinamic. This CD is VERY high on my instrumentals recommendation list. Anyone looking for new ideas with jazzy flavour, tons of good taste and groove should at least give it a try. P.S. Simon used to play drums for Toto and Mick Jagger. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:23:31 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Greg Jones) To: email_address_removed Subject: Vai vs. Petrucci Message-ID: But even on LTE Petrucci didn't play all leads, he played a lot of cool rhythms as well. This is something that I don't hear Vai do very much. I just think that Vai's whammy bar and wah wah antics sound annoying. I obviously prefer JP. That most likely comes from the fact that Vai is a solo artist and basically has everything center around him, whereas Petrucci *has* to restrain himself, according to the songs DT writes. Although he does stray from that in LTE, where gets to showcase a large part of the time. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:41:46 -0700 From: Dave Thomas To: "'ytsejam'" Subject: New CD Reviews On Pixel Planet Message-ID: I've added a bunch of new reviews over the last couple of weeks. Aside from LTE, I've added reviews of older discs from Queensryche, Yes, Steve Vai, Al DiMeola, Ministry, Patrick O'Hearn and Rush, among others. Check it out, and let me know what you think. Thanks. Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of CG software, books, games, comics, music movies and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:59:17 -0700 From: Lisa Marie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Blind? & Left Coasters Message-ID: At 11:47 AM 5/14/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hate to continue this thread, but ... Equally sorry, and begging Skadz' forgiveness! >>> > te quiero romper el hocico >>> >>Does this mean, I am a dumb fuckup with no life in Spanish? >>> >>> No, it doesn't mean that, it means this- >>> >>> "OK, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! Are you fucking blind? > >Uh, wait Skadz ... didn't Damon post that? :) Skadz did not post that as a reply to Damon, he was replying to the person that responded to the spam on the jam... someone else re-posted Skadz' message in response to Damon. >Define West Coast, Lisa. (: I'm stuck in a closet with Pearl Jam up in >Seattle, and I am afraid that I'm missing out on not only 'prog chicks' >but rides to shows that don't exist up here. I'm going to make the grand >assumption that you're in good ol' California. (: Anyone wanna hijack >the tourbus and drive them up to my backyard for a brief show? Yup, you guessed it... sunny, er, rainy California! If I knew how to drive a bus, I'd be right there for ya! :o) Lisa Marie email_address_removed http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _____________________________________ THOUGHTS - Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/ _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: radio friendly new millennjium Message-ID: here's an idea for the intro to the radio friendly NM. Start at the part where the tempo shifts to 4/4. Don't know the time, but you'll here it. -- Damon Fibraio, email_address_removed Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:31:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "D. Frantz" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: The Vic/Chi show Message-ID: Well, this was like the best night of my life! Man, all of you who couldn't make it to this one, I feel very sorry for ya. The crowd was unbelievable, just as, if not more enthusiastic as the previous Chi show. Highlights for me: Mike acknowlegeing and appreciating my Majesty necklace before and after the show; James holding up my banner I made for Mike to the entire crowd, dancing it around a bit--thanx for helpin hold it up Hanson!; the little Portnoy joining him for his solo; meetin the guys, all except Derek who was "busy" with something(one) =) Real cool shirts this time, and PROGRAMS!! Gotta say "hi" to all the jammer i met and hung out w/--Ptacek, Hanson[again =) was a bit better than our YES experience huh?!] Al from MN, and all the others whose names i 4get or didn't get. Thanx to the DT guys for such an awesome show and bein so patient w/ everyone afterwords. esp. Mike who I've waited 6 years to meet and unfortunately was at a loss for words to talk to. You are the greatest, no doubt about it!! --Derek-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:36:45 EDT From: Devs0432 To: email_address_removed Subject: lack of hootenanny and the East Coast :P Message-ID: Pat Daugherty spewed: >> From: "Alex O'Connell" >> LTE IS SOOOOO GOOD TO LISTEN TO WHEN PACKING!!! >>The Digital Man >You guys having a hootenanny down there??? :) Hm, no :) Actually that email addy is out of use from now until August, I moved to this here one. No hootenanny in VA as I've been in NJ for the past two days. :) But I think I'll have as much fun blasting LTE up here as I did in VA, to piss off my neighbors and drown out their crap..... in both places....must save my brother from the evil ways of cRap and dance music!!! ------------------- > >Ok, then, where are the east coast prog females? I's here, I's here!! later all, Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:50:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Hearing, Ataxia, and Steve's word choices... Message-ID: > > Steve...here's a great word to use: > > how about " Meet my Lady! you will melt her hear, gain more respect and > yes it's an adult word! I usually introduce a girlfriend as "This is my ho....5 bucks and you can have her...." Maybe that explains why I'm single right now..... :) Actually, the last girlfriend I had I would introduce with different variations of, "This is ,the most beautiful girl in the world". Granted, the people I introduced her to would basically puke, but I meant it and she loved it. Don't ask what happened...... :) -Al ===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email_address_removed OR email_address_removed OR email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:58:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blind? & Left Coasters Message-ID: On Thu, 14 May 1998, Lisa Marie wrote: >Yup, you guessed it... sunny, er, rainy California! If I knew how to >drive a bus, I'd be right there for ya! After all, the west coast is just California with some states tacked on to the top. ^_^ Driving a bus is like driving a really big Volkswagen. ^_^ --Matt (From Orygun, dammit! ^_^) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blind? BOnus Track: Girlfriends Message-ID: On Thu, 14 May 1998, Chris Oates wrote: >dating doesn't really seem to like your music, but says they do, goes out >and buys DT CDs, wants to go with you to every concert you go to, ans >basically tries to like everything you like cause SHE HAS NO PERSONALITY OR >OPINIONS OF HER OWN !! ... uh ... not that that ever happened to me, uh, Don't mistake a will to experience new things for a lack of personality. Not all who wander are lost, my boy. ^_^ Then again, not all who wander aren't lost... And not all who are lost wander, they just drive in circles, determined not to ask the gas station attendent for directions... Umm... whatever. ^_^ --Matt (Any female Jammers in Eugene, OR? ^_-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Deep Impact": Something that movie didn't have on me... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:22:54 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo To: YTSEJAM Subject: Live video / A boot would be cool.... Message-ID: > In recent JAM,someone mentioned something about there might be a new > live video from DT in the near future.Has anyone else heard about it? > I'd love the tought of new DT live video! Yep. Mike P. told me himself that there MIGHT BE another live video soon: Awake era. On another note....... I must say that 5-12-98's St. Andrews show was so incredible, that it would really be a Godsend if a bootleg was made of it. I would definitely shell out major $$$'s. Just a thought. - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:26:56 EDT From: EVO V To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Vai vs. Petrucci Message-ID: In a message dated 98-05-14 15:07:01 EDT, you write: << this should not even be discussed, they are 2 different guitarists COMPLETELY. personally, i like vai better, but thats all it is, is an opinion. and Petrucci is obviously influenced by Vai, ask him and i'm sure he will say he is. Petrucci is a great technical progressive guitarist, with a lot of feeling in his playing, and even somewhat bluesy at times. Vai is a wild guitarist, always exceeding the limits of his instruments in every way, he can play with loads of feeling, but i don't think he can really play bluesy, nor does he try to. Rocky >> Being one of the biggest Vai fans you'll ever talk to, I tend to like Vai a little more, BUT, lately Petrucci is heard coming out of my room more so than Steve is. To say they are completely different guitarist is far from the truth though. The solo in PMU, everything about it reminds me of Vai, there isn't a thing different in that solo that Vai wouldn't play, especially the phrasement. John has said that Steve is one of his inspirations. I asked Steve once if he gets into Dream Theater at all and he said he heard some of they're music, it was outstanding, and he'd have to get some of they're stuff sometime. They both went to Berklee College Of Music, so they're level of technicality is bassically the same. I've seen Steve live 3 times, and saw a few different DT bootlegs, and I'd have to say they're live tone is equally as well as the studio tone. I'd say Steve's is even better live than it is in the studio. Steve does seem a little more relaxed on-stage and seems to get into the music more than John does, but they both do equally as well of a job. When I first saw Steve on the G3 tour with Eric Johnson, he had the audience eating out of his palm, I never saw someone grab the attention of a group of people more than he did. I think he learned a lot of the showman stuff while touring with David Lee Roth. As for the wah pedal thing, I'd say they both use it the equal amount of time, maybe John uses it more than Steve. Notice they both use it the same way, more of a tone control than a straight ahead wah wah wah wah wah, more of a pan type thing. Steve definatly uses more of the whammy bar than John. Steve does use a lot of hammer on's and pull off's, but he also picks every note a lot of the time, he mixes it up. John tends to pick every note rather than do the hammer on pull off thing, he said in an interview that he spent a lot of his time working on getting his right hand to pick every note, and he sometimes regrets it, (I cant remember the reason he regrets it though, maybe out of sympathy for the HUMAN guitarist out there who can't play at those speeds!!!!!). To me those two are THE best guitarist to ever walk the Earth, (But is Steve really from this planet? If not, then they're both definatly machines, humans have no capability to play like that!) Ok, that was long and winded. See ya all lata Andy D The Next Steve Vai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:26:43 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer To: email_address_removed Subject: Live video Message-ID: >From: Syrinx >> I'd love the thought of new DT live video! > > all in due time, my friend. all in due time. Now, this is the kind of shit I LOVE hearing from insiders.... : ) Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:42:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell Subject: URGENT!!!! PROGRAM NEEDED!!! Message-ID: Aynone going to some DT shows in 3 days or more. PLEASE E-MAIL ME - email_address_removed I would appreciate it if someone would purchase a program for me at one of the shows. I can FedEx the funding for it to you next day, and include an envelope (postage paid) for you to send it back to me. Pretty please with sugar on top. Help an East Coast guy out. -Al ===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email_address_removed OR email_address_removed OR email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:27:18 -0400 From: Kevin Madden To: email_address_removed Subject: Geeks, er, I mean, Greeks (NDTC) Message-ID: Kevin, network king, wrote: > speak with my own >voice and opionion, I don't let people tell me my opionion. But since >everyone is entitle to their opionion I see those Greeks taught you to spell very well. That should get you a good job, in my opionion (sic), even if you aren't entitle (sic). Here comes another hamster up the poop-chute! Cd of the Day: Deep Purple - Purpendicular Kevin Madden Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions First Round of the Playoffs vs. Phoenix Coyotes Detroit Wins 4-2 Second Round, vs. St. Louis Blues Detroit leads series, 2-1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:24:09 -0400 From: "BassicRob" To: Subject: Re: DT/ELP/DP Message-ID: <01bd7f87$03c81a40$LocalHost@default> >Ok, I'm not really in the know here. Who knows anything about this concert >? do all three bands have equal billing, or does one(ours) open for the >other two? Also, how much are tickets, and where in LI is jones beach, is >it off the LIE and if so which exit, blah blah blah? > >And when in august is it? DT/ELP/DP at Jones Beach on Aug. 9. Tickets onsale Sat, May 16 at 8am. Tickets range from $40-15. Jones Beach is on the south shore of LI. To get there take to Wantagh Pkwy straight down to the end (southbound) and follow the signs. The Wantagh Pkwy should be open by Memorial Day according to officials. (the new bridge started to fall apart and they are repairing it). I dont care if they do a 30min set I'm going! -Rob, email_address_removed Visit my webpage for my latest NIN Desktop Theme, bass solo mp3's, and other useless info. http:\\www.geocities.com\SunsetStrip\Mezzanine\1566 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:52:28 -0500 From: "C. Mustard" To: "Raytheon" , "Pete Davis" , Subject: New email up Message-ID: <01bd7f8a$f850c820$message_id_removed> Ahoy, Well, I made it through the year and am home for the summer. I can now be reached at: email_address_removed . · • Colonel Mustard • · ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:53:42 -0500 From: "C. Mustard" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Attn: Brian Kirk! Message-ID: <01bd7f8b$24832c80$message_id_removed> Ahoy, I can't seem to send email to your address at USVGI for some reason... has it changed, and if so, can you send drop me a message? Thanks - · • Colonel Mustard • · ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:22:29 +1000 From: graham boyle To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: today's specials - $10 goodies (CDr) Message-ID: AEllis1222 wrote: > Hi everybody, > I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just want to get everybody's ok on > ordering CD-R boots from this guy. Is he reliable? Ever heard the saying: 'Never look a gift-horse in the mouth' ? graham ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3899 **************************