YTSEJAM Digest 3889 Today's Topics: 1) Re: sailboats and shannon doherty by AEllis1222 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3888 by DrummerEsh 3) Moderator Type Stuff (THIS MEANS READ THIS!) by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 4) Mosh by Jon Kretschmer 5) Re: chicks by Steve Zebrowski 6) Mike Marshall is a Genius!! by Max Arbot 7) FW: Dream Theater chat by Mark Bredius 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884 by Kevin Carmouche 9) I'm off to see the wizard's by AL 10) DT in Detroit by "Death Lord" 11) Prog-songs in 4/4?? by The Working Man 12) a good rap song? indeed. by "Raivo Hool" 13) Re: Live at the Marquee? by Peter Andersson 14) dump her by "Trevor W. Hoit" 15) SV: This is of no interest by The Working Man ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:06:28 EDT From: AEllis1222 To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: sailboats and shannon doherty Message-ID: << That movie always gets me thinking of Shannon Doherty, clinging by her fingernails to the fringes of the entertainment industry, just a few short years from a lovely career in amatuer porn films. >> That, I could deal with! Now all we need is for Alicia Silverstone's star to fade too! Art ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:20:13 EDT From: DrummerEsh To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3888 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-05-13 00:04:18 EDT, you write: << Don't worry about the moshing, because if it's anything like last time at HoB, there will be none. If people try, we shall have to kick their ass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but attempting to absorb the intracies of Myung's bass wizardry is complicated by having some asshole coming at you elbow-first at 20mph. IMHO, moshing of the usual brainless, full-contact variety simply has no place at a DT concert. >> Ya moshing at a DT concert sucks, i would love to stand in the front and watch DT do there thing im not a very big guy so its hard for me to kick ass. If you all want to mosh there is a Slayer concert on May 30th at the Palace, we can bang heads there. ~ESH~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 04:40:19 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Moderator Type Stuff (THIS MEANS READ THIS!) Message-ID: Hey All .... Just wanted to talk about a couple of things and to update people on the state of certain things, etc. I went through and did all the ytsejam administration this morning and we currently have about 1200 people on the list. Not too shabby, especially since alot of people have unsubbed because of the amount of data/lack of content lately. Second, because I don't want to have to spend hours running through all unsubs, IF YOU ARE LEAVING SCHOOL, please please please please please please UNSUBSCRIBE! I just sent a message on how to do this. If you have problems, mail me (email_address_removed). I don't want the middle of june to roll around and start getting a ton of user over quota messages. Third, I will say this once and only once. If anyone ever posts a private email conversation to this list, you will be unsubbed immediately, no questions, comments, etc. I will immediately remove you from the list and block you from ever posting again. After the two recent incidents of this happening, I don't want to see it again. Fourth, if you see some dumbass post something which is obviously not content for this list (like our nice friend today), E-MAIL ME (email_address_removed). I will take care of it. I am gonna try and keep up on the list, but it is hard with my schedule, so if you see this type of shit, tell me. Also, DON'T start shit on the list and bitch to the person. E-Mail me. The amount of posts back to this asshole today was RIDICULOUS!!!!!! You should have all listened to Graham (wow, i don't believe i just said that). more later Skadz --- Ryan Skadberg | "there's a space beside us Ytsejam Moderator | and there's miles between us email_address_removed | and all around us http://www.dreamt.org/ | grows this shade of gray" | _A Pleasant Shade of Gray_ - Fates Warning ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:38:49 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer To: email_address_removed Subject: Mosh Message-ID: Dr. Mosh said: >You will not see me, I will cloud your minds... you will see me as a >5'9" blonde with big zongas and a great behind. But when I met you, you were a 6'9" Ethiopian long distance runner. Wait, Im confused... ??? Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: chicks Message-ID: > > Seriously. The best move I ever made IN MY LIFE was when I dumped the > > girl who gave me this same treatment in my own car. > > I hope you didn't dump her strictly for that reason. She was an all-around > bitch, right? Well, I told family and friends that it was because she was a homophobe and a bigot and I just couldn't reconcile that , and I told my buddies that it was because she wasn't any good in bed , but I think deep down that WAS the real reason. :) Basically she treated me like crap. Like, really. she used to hit me and stuff. It didn't hurt me physically because I'm a big strong man :) but I got sick of it. Plus, she obviously only cared about my appearance and how we looked together and especially how being with me made her look. Plus, she didn't like my long hair. Feh! I believe that FOR ME I get along with people based on what kind of music we like. she hated my musicand I hated hers, therefore we didn't get along. > Ok, I'm not really in the know here. Who knows anything about this concert > ? do all three bands have equal billing, or does one(ours) open for the > other two? Also, how much are tickets, and where in LI is jones beach, is > it off the LIE and if so which exit, blah blah blah? Equal billing? HA! No, serious ly. I think it's a double bill w/ dp/elp with dt opening. Of course, a dt opening set will probably be at least an hour . Steve z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:09:40 EDT From: Max Arbot To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike Marshall is a Genius!! Message-ID: email_address_removed (Mike A Marshall) This man is a genius, ladies and gentlemen. He is precise and consice from beginning to end. Mike, I totally agree with what you said, 100%. [eriC] THE DRE/\M THE/\TER http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:41:47 +0200 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: FW: Dream Theater chat Message-ID: Hey kiddies... > http://www.liveconcerts.com/events/980517dreamtheaterchat > > Sunday may 17th chat with Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater > in real audio at 6:30 pm pt - get your question in now! :-) Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: email_address_removed * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:09:18 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884 Message-ID: I have one question...WHO THE HELL DIED AND MADE YOU KING OF THE YTSEJAM???? There's a little thing called scrolling up and down that brings you to the messages you want to read. And it's not OUR fault that your hard drive is too puny to handle a few pieces of text. damn, it always seems that whenever good and/or fun discussions start in mailing lists, someone has to post, say "hey, that's wrong and it's wasting my time" and screw it all up..... > 9) Re: Saviour Machine > 3) how puff daddy and jimmy page made me nauseous > 2) Re: Buckshot LeFonque, Ben Folds > 13) Vito is a putz > 3) Rick Wakeman > 4) A Mistake, Pink Floyd, Genesis > yada yada yada (sorry!) > > How much of my drive space is going to be taken up by off subject ramblings > like the above? I work 14 hour days, and barely have time to read through > the real e-mail. Now when I get 6+ jams a day filled with useless > ramblings, endless taunts, arguments over 'how much better Floyd is', and > how MP/DT is a sellout just cause they want to earn a decent living ('nuff > said to THAT 'serious' a-hole).... I ALMOST want to get off the jam. > Who gives a RATS ASS about SNL or PUFF DADDY SHIT FOR BRAINS? I DON'T!!! > This is SUPPOSED to be a newsletter for FANS of DT and SIMILAR bands to > voice views and news. I'm NOT saying you all can't have differing taste and > appreciate other forms of music. But I for one, and several others that I > know of, want THIS forum to stay true to what it is called YTSEJAM....NOT ' > Various things that everyone (who just happens to like DT) likes.' Can we > PLEASE trim the activity down to PROG news and views. > This trash had gotten so thick in recent weeks (meaning I had quite even > reading the subject headings) that I didn't even know about the NY and > Philly shows until it was too late to get to them (ah well, so much for > seeing DT this tour... the life of a road warrior!!!) If I don't float away > from all the rain here in the wilds of PA, maybe I'll be lucky and get to > see them sometime in the fall. > Meanwhile, I'ld LIKE to hear about Prog in general, opinions and things > technical and not-so-technical....but PLEASE no more 'just cause you're > blind does'nt mean you can't be expected to spell rite'? BULLSHIT!!! Life > is TOO short to go around wasting EVERYBODIES TIME putting other people down > (a PERFECT person wouldn't HAVE to cast the first stone). In other words > "GROW UP PEOPLE" no matter how old you really are! > TEMPUT FUGITS.....CARPE DIEM (TIME FLIES..... -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:11:44 -0500 From: AL To: YTSE Jammers Subject: I'm off to see the wizard's Message-ID: The wonderful wizard's of prog. In seven hours I will be departing for Chicago! Chris & Dale (wait... That sounds like a cartoon) I will see you there about 3:00 PM. I will be easy to spot. 5' 10" 200+ wearing a DT touring into infinity shirt and hat. Don't worry, I'm not the guy in Bafu's Daytona horror story, I'm 4 inches taller, and a wee bit lighter. I don't bounce that well either. -- See ya, AL... Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 02:47:23 -0400 From: "Death Lord" To: Subject: DT in Detroit Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BD7E19.74DD8A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! DT kicked some major ass in Detroit. I couldn't have asked for a better concert! Even Full On The Mouth was good (in my opinion). They had pretty good sound quality, and they were pretty interactive with the crowd. I was surprised to see they actually had a real drummer instead of a drum machine. Anyway, after FOTM left, they did play some rare DT stuff, but I only recognized some since I couldn't hear it that well. Then they played Rooster by Alice In Chains, and everyone was singing along with it, so the tech guys turned it up! Then ACOS kicked in. Man, did this concert kick ass. By far the best concert I've ever been to. Unfortunately, I didn't stay after the show (had to get back to Grand Rapids for work tomorrow...err, later today). Some of the funny things that happened was that someone next to me mentioned how the lead singer of FOTM looked like Sammy Hagar, and that the DT roadie looked like Dana Carvey. Definitely some resemblances! I also noticed some guy that looked like he was 60 years old, with some 50s doo-wop hair style jammin' in the balcony. Man, there sure were an older group than most concerts I've been to. Well, gotta go. I think I've convinced my girlfriend that DT are the masters of their instruments! That drum solo was awesome, and ofcourse, Petrucci's playing really kicked ass. I noticed that he only moves his pick really fast, as opposed to most guitarists (that I've seen) use more of their arms in the motion. It makes it look like Petrucci isn't trying that hard. Death Lord ------=_NextPart_000_01BD7E19.74DD8A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wow!  DT kicked some major ass in = Detroit.  I couldn't have asked for a better concert!  Even = Full On The Mouth was good (in my opinion).  They had pretty good = sound quality, and they were pretty interactive with the crowd.  I = was surprised to see they actually had a real drummer instead of a drum = machine.
Anyway, after FOTM left, they did play some rare DT = stuff, but I only recognized some since I couldn't hear it that well. =  Then they played Rooster by Alice In Chains, and everyone was = singing along with it, so the tech guys turned it up!  Then ACOS = kicked in.  Man, did this concert kick ass.  By far the best = concert I've ever been to.  Unfortunately, I didn't stay after the = show (had to get back to Grand Rapids for work tomorrow...err, later = today).
Some of the funny things that happened was that someone = next to me mentioned how the lead singer of FOTM looked like Sammy = Hagar, and that the DT roadie looked like Dana Carvey.  Definitely = some resemblances!  
I also noticed some guy that looked = like he was 60 years old, with some 50s doo-wop hair style jammin' in = the balcony.  Man, there sure were an older group than most = concerts I've been to.
Well, gotta go.  I think I've = convinced my girlfriend that DT are the masters of their instruments! =  That drum solo was awesome, and ofcourse, Petrucci's playing = really kicked ass.  I noticed that he only moves his pick really = fast, as opposed to most guitarists (that I've seen) use more of their = arms in the motion.  It makes it look like Petrucci isn't trying = that hard.  
Death Lord

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Raivo Hool NT administrator, Estonian Card Center of Banks e-mail: raitz@estcard.ee Office: (+372) 6 711 416 GSM: (+372) 51 43 567 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:15:39 +0200 From: Peter Andersson To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Live at the Marquee? Message-ID: >If I got all the studio albums, >is it a wise decision to buy >Live at the Marquee? >(In other words: Does it show >DT from its best side?) Sure! It's a great album. I think it's a lot better than the live tracks on ACOS, basicly since they play DT songs. It also sounds live! A bonus is two songs from WDADU with James Labrie on vocals (A Fortune in Lies becomes a killer!) and the new intro to Killing Hands. /Peter Andersson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:16:16 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Cc: "Trevor W. Hoit" Subject: dump her Message-ID: > << In my own fucking car (if I'm with my girlfriend) > she bitches at me to "turn this fucking shit off" (DT)! >> > DUMP HER! DUMP HER! DUMP HER! That relationship is doomed. Get her > outta' > here. > Dude, if we dumped every girl that didn't like prog we'd all be gayer than hootenannies. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:18:51 +0100 From: The Working Man To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: SV: This is of no interest Message-ID: <98May13.092335gmt+message_id_removed.se> aao ---------- Fran: The Working Man[SMTP:email_address_removed Skickat: den 12 maj 1998 16:22 Till: Multiple recipients of list Angaende: This is of no interest I told you! Testing the Swedish charachters a a o A A O Did it work? 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