YTSEJAM Digest 3810 Today's Topics: 1) HANKS IN FIRST!!!! by Justin James 2) a random thought.... by Pat Sullivan 3) Moaning by Jon Kretschmer 4) Poking Back In.... by Adam Barnhart 5) Re: How to guide. by Matt Johnston 6) Re: moaning women (D-Mang) by "Christopher R. Merlo" 7) Rockin' Japan by "Nowik, George" 8) moaning women by "earthblind, starbound" 9) Cincinnati and Detroit Shows by Big Perm 10) Re: moaning women (D-Mang) by Carlos Alfaro 11) Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P by James Thorpe 12) Re: moaning women by email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) 13) Moaning women by Wilson 14) Re: Moaning Women by Matthew Smith 15) moaning women, like me by Thrak75 16) Re: moaning women by email_address_removed.au (Paul Dyer) 17) Females Moaning and Groaning by Chris Calabrese 18) Re: moaning women, like me by Rogerio Brito ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:59:09 -0500 From: Justin James To: Brandy George , Heavy Metal List , Subject: HANKS IN FIRST!!!! Message-ID: HANK IS NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has 5146 votes, and 2nd place Leo Dicrapio has 4338!!!!! If you have not yet voted do so now, we need to ensure that he retains this place. Mentally Yours, Justin James email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 05:07:27 From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: a random thought.... Message-ID: Just curious, but.... Has anybody else been keeping track of whether people have the tape or CD of FII by the order of songs in their review? :) (For those that don't know, the songs on the tape were put in a different order so that BMS/HK/LITS could be kept together - they lead off side 2) _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net) IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.just-like.nu/ ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:03:34 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer To: email_address_removed Subject: Moaning Message-ID: Axl Rose has sex with some chick in the song "Rocket Queen" on Appetite for Destruction. She gets pretty loud here and there. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:05:50 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart To: email_address_removed Subject: Poking Back In.... Message-ID: Hello, folks. Been a bit. I'm still mired in my typical schedule, but I'm trying to avoid doing some particularly tedious stuff, so I thought I'd leap in (especially since it concerns my beloved Rush)... >From: "Christopher R. Merlo" >Subject: Re: NT Album Themes part 3 > >I agree with pretty much everything Mike said about Signals and p/g. > >> Power Windows marks a more optimistic turn of Rush's themes... things > >Ehhh... I wouldn't say optimistic. Maybe more level-headed, or down-to-earth. "Power Windows," I think, is more cynical than "Grace Under Pressure" or "Signals," which, I'd say, are more along the lines of "despondent" where negativity is concerned. At no point in time on a Rush record, though, do I really get a negative sense of life. It's as though the narration is coming from a position of centered-ness. Feeling as though there's ultimately some utility to making these statements, rather than the Nilhism you get from a lot of lyrics from this decade. >> have never been quite as bleak in nature as p/g. Power Windows is >> easy... it deals with power. Big Money with the power of avarice. Grand >> Designs with the power of individuality. Manhattan Project with the >> power of war and destruction. Marathon with the power of endurance. > >Out of those, avarice, war, and destruction don't really fit the "optimistic" >theme you sense. I would probably say that PoW is a break away from feelings >and nature-stuff, and a sharper focus on human nature, which leads into HYF. This is astute. "Human Nature" is, absolutely, a good way to focus an eye on "Power Windows." But "Power Windows" is a look at human nature in the context of larger actions, where "Hold Your Fire" is based in smaller patterns of interaction where human nature is concerned. Internal motivation, often. >> It's [PoW] very concise and is probably the best thematic >> presentation since Moving Pictures. > >More so than the Atlantic albums? I don't see that. An interesting note: I >never really saw the thematic relationships within albums until you wrote >these posts. Thanks for shedding some light. I remember reading an interview with Neil Peart in _Guitar_ (!) Magazine (the one where "Closer to the Heart" is transcribed...this is years ago), where he talks about considering "Grace Under Pressure" the first "concept" album Rush has done, because each piece on the album really addresses the concept of pressure in a different way. The earlier "concept" albums, then, would be longer narratives...a little less grounded and, perhaps, a little more abstract and opaque. >> find excitement and enjoyment in anything and everything. TSS is >> easier... it's Rush's masterpiece, and deals with the instinctual need > >Lyrically, I'm inclined to agree. But musically, I just don't feel right >calling TSS anything more than "a really good song." On the same album, Prime >Mover hits me a lot more deeply, musically. And then there's Natty Sci, >Hemispheres, ... No way. "Time Stand Still" is Rush's finest moment. Period. On the other hand, the other three you mention are part of that card that gets you in the door with the band, I think. >> something he hadn't touched much on before, in Mission. Mission deals >> with our instinctual question, "Is there a divine being? Is there a >> God?" Who indeed sets the wheels in motion? Who runs behind the scenes? >> It isn't us, but we THINK it is. How do we corroborate this? > >Interesting. That'll take some more thought for me to agree or disagree with. Boy, I think I really read the song different than the quote of a quote above. I'm getting the impression that while we have a tendency to work well with wonderful abstractions (a divine being among them) -- which is a positive human tendency -- to leave them ungrounded is to preclude some part of what it is to actually go and LIVE. It's not an existentialist statement or anything, but "spirit" IS tied to "vision"...having a POINT to life, so to speak. Incidentally, one of the songs on the T-Ride album (I'm drawing a blank at the moment) has a moaning woman, too. Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Fishbone: The Reality of My Surroundings 2. Energy Orchard: Energy Orchard 3. Goo Goo Dolls: A Boy Named Goo 4. Rush: Hold Your Fire 5. Lost Souls: Howlin' at the Moon Adam D. Barnhart email_address_removed email_address_removed http://www.cfmc.com/adamb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: How to guide. Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Jon Kretschmer wrote: >And jesus mike, how bout making those CDs instead of writing the how-to >guide for Metallica and Rush? The man has like four computers -- I'm sure one or two of them are doing something other than checking his e-mail... > >Just a thought. > Just another thought. >Jon > --Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- They Might Be Giants: REM with a sense of humor. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:32:09 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: moaning women (D-Mang) Message-ID: The iban graced my inbox with: > << While this probably doesn't classify as "moaning" per se, I always thought > the > girl at the beginning of Vai's "I Would Love To" ("You know, I'm very very > shy") always sounded really sexy. > >> > > ewwww man you's a sicko.... thats a little boy who says that > LMFAO Oh, get your head out of your ass, Rocky. That's a chick. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The Spirit of Radio" Saturday 2:00pm-4:00pm 90.7 WCWM-FM http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:39:00 -0800 From: "Nowik, George" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Rockin' Japan Message-ID: Howdy ya'll. Was wondering if anyone else picked up a CD in ye olde local music shoppe called "Dream Theater: Rockin' Japan". Saw it in a store today, picked it up, got listening to it and was relatively impressed with the quality. (The bass was quite loud, actually, so I was in seventh heaven) This was probably at the near beginnings of the Awake tour, because all of the liner notes and pictures and such display Kevin Moore as the keyboardist, but Derek is introduced to the audience at the beginning of one of the tracks. Anyone else have it? What would you consider the quality to be like as compared to other good and bad boots? randomly curious, -= george =- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:39:23 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" To: email_address_removed Subject: moaning women Message-ID: The best: "The Girls of Porn" by Mr. Bungle. Some others can be found on Chili Peppers albums. There's one on Mother's Milk ... "Sexy Mexican Maid?" And some others. -=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror. --------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:01:32 -0500 From: Big Perm To: email_address_removed Subject: Cincinnati and Detroit Shows Message-ID: Hello everybody...(Hi Doctor Nick) --> blatant Simpsons reference Anyways, I will be traveling to both the shows in Cincinnati and Detroit, leaving from Madison, Wisconsin (in my trusty rental car), and returning for the Chicago show on Wednesday night. If anyone would like a pickup along the way to either of the two aforementioned shows, please do give a holler (I would say Chicago as well, but I believe my car is full for that one). I don't have my directions in front of me, but if anyone emails me privately (and of course wants a ride), I'll be happy to fill you in on how I'm going, and from there we can relay specific directions. Wow, now that I reread this, it's just about as clear as mud. Back to work... David Plotkin email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:58:08 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: moaning women (D-Mang) Message-ID: Christopher R. Merlo wrote: > The iban graced my inbox with: > > > << While this probably doesn't classify as "moaning" per se, I always thought > > the > > girl at the beginning of Vai's "I Would Love To" ("You know, I'm very very > > shy") always sounded really sexy. > > >> > > > > ewwww man you's a sicko.... thats a little boy who says that > > LMFAO > > Oh, get your head out of your ass, Rocky. That's a chick. :) actually , the little boy is the other one.. the one who says something about a ballad something bla bla.... BUT ive always though the girl that says the very shy line.. is a very young girl..(teenaged), and its not that bad for me since im only 18...and ive had the cd for about 3 years... hehe but still would be kind of a sick thing for D :0) In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:02:33 -0700 From: James Thorpe To: Subject: Re: Confusing situation and a bit 'bout John P Message-ID: <01bd72f1$58c78f00$0100007f@localhost> >>I don't really know what to think about John Petrucci... I mean, he's an >>inevidable asset for the band DT, and he sure as hell got the *speed* >>and the *perfection*... but has he got the *feeling*? Hell Yeah!! His note choice and precision is impeccable. He has alot of feeling! Listen to 'Kindred Spirits' and 'Freedom of Speech' on Liquid Tension Experiment. That has so much *feeling* it makes you want to weep. >>me, but Petrucci's play doesn't have the *sparkle* or the *move* that >>JS and SV have. Oh, what an UNFAIR comparison, you think... > For me, JP has taken Satriani's Style of Melodic play to another level. He utilizes melodic content (note choice) at the right spots. Satch is who got me into guitar so I will always admire him in a special way. peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:59:17 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: moaning women Message-ID: Al Balkiewicz wrote: >ok, let me start off by saying this is not for me. (really) > > > My friend asked about songs that have moaning women in it. > Two examples were: > > Rocket Queen - Guns N Roses > More Human than Human - White Zombie > > > Oh, music aficionados on this list, can you name others? I wanna add one more... It is a song called "Infinity" (they use the sign for the name) from the album called "666" by Aphrodite's Child. It's a prog band from Greece that Vangelis used to be in. This song is not for a person who has heart disease though. It's really sick. Regards, AE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:49:43 -0400 From: Wilson To: email_address_removed Subject: Moaning women Message-ID: One more for the Moaning women thread: Aroused by Enuff Z'nuff, from their album 1985. Highly Recommended. Signing off......Kevin (WilsonCat) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Smith To: Ytsejam Subject: Re: Moaning Women Message-ID: Aren't there moaning women all through Angra's albums? Oh, sorry, that's just Matos. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Album Currently Playing: Dave Matthews Band--Before These Crowded Streets ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Smith "When Dream and Day Unite, Images and Words email_address_removed Awake A Change of Seasons Falling Into Infinity." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:41:38 EDT From: Thrak75 To: email_address_removed Subject: moaning women, like me Message-ID: for a good examples of moaning women, prince (or tafkap) has a LOT of songs that fit that bill. how can we forget samantha fox moaning at us in her 80s- hit song "touch me, "i wanna feel your body)". also, if you listen REEEEEALY carefully, you can hear JON ANDERSON moaning like the woman he is at the very end of "owner of a lonely heart." koba, wild. ************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school email_address_removed "i'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints." -on the wall at tripwire's ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:42:25 -0700 From: email_address_removed.au (Paul Dyer) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: moaning women Message-ID: Blood Duster's first release Fisting the Dead had a track which was entirely a sample of a moaning woman.... "Oooohhhh......ohhhhhhhhhhh....ohhhhhhhhhhh....fuck me, yeah" heh heh... Also Chris Groves mentioned the new Blood Duster album with the tree sample... That's cool "Your a queer lookin rooster arent' ya!" The guy sounds exactly like my uncle...so bloody Australian!! Cheers Paul D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:36:19 -0400 From: Chris Calabrese To: email_address_removed Subject: Females Moaning and Groaning Message-ID: For songs with females moaning and groaning in them: Bon Jovi - Social Disease ~Chris -- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools. - King Crimson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:42:43 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: moaning women, like me Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Thrak75 wrote: > also, if you listen REEEEEALY carefully, you can hear JON ANDERSON moaning > like the woman he is at the very end of "owner of a lonely heart." Hahaha! You took the words from my mouth, koba! []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3810 **************************