YTSEJAM Digest 3714 Today's Topics: 1) Philly Show. by Syrinx 2) tour dates, LTE in GW by Riffinator 3) Philly show, LTE in GW by Riffinator 4) more Blind Guardian! by "Alex O'Connell" 5) Re: attention guitarists by "Vincent G. LuPone" 6) Re: attention guitarists by email_address_removed 7) Re: BC Rich by "Vincent G. LuPone" 8) Oh, just stuff. LTE Stuff, and some Old Stuff too. by "TheCowGod" 9) Sebastian Bach Tour Dates (No DTC) by "Richard A. Rivera" 10) Re: LTE Review by email_address_removed (Ryan Park) 11) Henry Rollins by Jaime Kimpton 12) figures... by email_address_removed 13) Everything by "Neal Brown" 14) Re: Metallica over and over again by Kevin Carmouche 15) Re: Philly Show. by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal 16) Another Rock Star dies in car crash by "Charlie Farrell" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: A Ytse Besides Itself Subject: Philly Show. Message-ID: Hey, gang. I'm (once again) going to do a weird thing. For those of you who are travelling from out of town to come to the philly show, lemme know. i might be able to have accomodations (ok, a floor) to sleep on at my place. you'd have to bring the sleepstuff, but you wouldn't have to pay for the room. If you're interested, and depending on how many people ask, leme know - and arrangements can be made. - mike. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:07:05 EDT From: Riffinator To: email_address_removed Subject: tour dates, LTE in GW Message-ID: Hey jammas! I was just wondering if, by any chance, there are any other jammers out there from the NEGLECTED ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:15:50 EDT From: Riffinator To: email_address_removed Subject: Philly show, LTE in GW Message-ID: Sorry about that last post!! It got cut off and it was sent before it was completed!! Anyway, I was just wondering if any jammers from the NEGLECTED southeast (what's the deal, Mike?? :) are planning on road-trippin' it to the show in Philly this May at the Electric Factory. Email me privately if this is you. Also, did anyone check out the column on page 29 of the May issue of Guitar World about LTE? It's got some quotes from JP! Pretty cool, huh?....considering this is the same magazine that places Kirk Hammet as the best metal guitarist! :) -Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:00:05 -0400 From: "Alex O'Connell" To: email_address_removed Subject: more Blind Guardian! Message-ID: Alright, I know I've set myself up for it, but here goes a whole bunch of Blind Guardian post responses. For those of you not interested, you are herewith warned. Yeah, Jason, I'd say you've made another convert. *grin back*. However, I just got this really cool memory gain recently (this type of thing happens when your short term memory is on the fritz most of the time, like mine, and then will occassionally come back to haunt you - maybe that explains my problem with the names of the songs :), and it all started with the name "Bright Eyes." See, it turns out my dandy cousin in Germany, who tuned me into prog, had shown me a video of this song that was actually aired on music television over there in Europe. So, the mp3 clips I heard on the site were not the first. I clean forgot about that (no cracks about how memorable it was). But they definitely blew me out of the water. >Well I can see that my name isn't making much of an impression *grin*. Once again, I plead short term memory lapse...actually, I have no idea what made me forget. None. Since I was so impressed with all that stuff, it's not logical. I never claimed to be, however, so I guess that leaves me in the clear. Lemme know if you spy out anything interesting... and I do apologize for not remembering. Forgive me if possible. Hey, what's up with this tape mix business? Being particular about who can play tapes to death? JK, giving you a hard time, but still. And Mike added: >I was already a huge BG fan, but "Mirror..." is tremendous. BUY THE >ALBUM when it comes out at the end of the month... OK, SINCE YOU ARE FORCING ME, I MEAN TWISTING MY ARM BEHIND MY BACK AND HAVING ME IN A HEADLOCK, I MAY JUST BE FORCED TO DO THAT! Sheesh. Nothing like peer pressure. And just for the record Jason, I ain't a dude, but I can see where my email addy would be to blame. Take care all, Alex(andra) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:07:34 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: attention guitarists Message-ID: At 04:59 PM 4/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hey gang, > > Sorry about the NDTC, but could some nice guitarist on the list >email me privately with the URL for Marshall Amplifier's official >web-site? Thanks in advance. http://www.mesaboogie.com/ Don't waste your time with Marshall, you'll probably end up buying a boogie someday anyway. MESA!!!!! _MESA/VINNIE_ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | "Where Ballz 'n Chunk Unite" | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:12:12 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: attention guitarists Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Nathan Rood almost read like a Guitar Center Blowout Sale commercial: > Sorry about the NDTC, but could some nice guitarist on the list > email me privately with the URL for Marshall Amplifier's official > web-site? Thanks in advance. http://www.mesaboogie.com/ Thank me later. ~Eckie Again (yeah, that's where the really cool .ra's of Petrucci's video game music is) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:12:34 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: BC Rich Message-ID: At 06:34 AM 4/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >James Thorpe wrote: > >> >> I guess, I've always considered BC Rich to be kinda 'chessy'. >> Have they improved alot? I guess I need to check them out more closely. >> I once thought this of Hohner till I checked out their Revelator >> model (Todd Duane's Model). That's a killer guitar. Some people call it cheesy, but I REALLY dig my BC Rich Warlock. It's got a Mahogany body and a 22-fret rosewood fretboard, the body is jet black, DiMarzio Air Norton (neck) and Seymour Duncan Trembucker (bridge) pickups, and a stationary bridge. The sound out of this guitar is just KILLER, mainly due to the massive body. If you're into really heavy sounds, or really clear, warm, clean sounds, definitely give BC Rich a try. The Mockingbird BC Rich guitars aren't half bad either. Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:24:44 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Oh, just stuff. LTE Stuff, and some Old Stuff too. Message-ID: <000001bd61d5$6bd9b500$message_id_removed> > From: Jon Parmet > Subject: Re: LTE Review > > Is it me, or does this album sound NOTHING like a Dream Theater album? > :) Yeah, ok, it's got some identifiable drum/guitar licks, but aside > from that I just don't hear DT in there. Rudess and Tony each have their > own sound far apart from anything I've heard in DT. Even JP/MP explore > many new things on the disc. I think they all fed off each other and > went places that are far from where DT lives. I think they meant to. I agree, for the most part. One thing I noticed tho, is in TMW - Mike and John seem to have this link from playing together so much (i know the feeling, i have the same sort of thing with my fellow band members, only it doens't work as well all the time :), so lots of times during the jam you hear john and mike kind of dominate the music and levin and rudess kinda just follow along. At least, that's what it seemed like to me. i noticed several times that like levin would try and start a riff or whatever around the same time that john did, and mike would go with john's. Not like it was always mike and john, and levin and rudess just as backup or anything, it was a 4-person jam, i just noticed the relationship several times. I can ideantify with that - i often find myself doing it but more often and less considerately than LTE. When i'm jamming with my band and someone i aint played with before we tend to not really include the new guy and he ends up just kinda playing along. YKWIM? Yeah, well, moo. On another note, i just installed MS Outlook98 and it imported all these really old messages i didn't know were still on my HD, so today i had the pleasure of going over all the old jams from when we were back on arastar (back when i still saved every one i got :). Number 1257, the last one before the jam moved to ax.com, with bafu's "Everything I Need To Know About Life I Learned From The Ytsejam". That post is actually really good. There's 2 things he says there that i might quote some time in my sig. Hehe. Well, enough of the memory lane crap. Moo again. And moo one more time. Lata moo. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Dream Theater Subject: Sebastian Bach Tour Dates (No DTC) Message-ID: Sorry for the lack of DTC (no I'm not), but here are the tour dates for Sebastian Bach's solo tour. I'm going to try my best to be at the L.A. gig. Hope to see some of you there. Richie --------- Here is the tour itinerary from Sebastian Bach: >>there will be LOTS more like DENVER, DETROIT (again!) & LOTS LOTS MORE AMERICAN GIGS ! & AFTER THIS LEG ....... JAPAN !!!!! YES !!!! SEE YOU ALL SOON !!!!! BACH ON TOUR MAY 1998 18 - CINCINNATI OHIO - Annie's 19 - GOSHEN INDIANA - The Body Shop 20 - KENOSHA WISCONSIN - Twisters 21 - DES MOINES IOWA - The Edge 22 - FARGO NORTH DAKOTA - Playmaker's Pavillion 23 - WINNEPEG MANITOBA - Osbourne Villiage Inn 25 - CALGARY ALBERTA - Back Alley 26 - EDMONTON ALBERTA - Cowboys Concert Hall 27 - GRAND PRAIRIE ALBERTA - Underground Rock Bar 28 - KELOWNA BRITISH COLUMBIA -Flashbacks 29 - BURNABY BRITISH COLUMBIA - Studebaker's 30 - BURNABY BRITISH COLUMBIA - Studebaker's (2nd night) 31 - SEATTLE WASHINGTON - Ballard Firehouse BACH ON TOUR JUNE 1998 2 - PORTLAND OREGON - Roseland Theatre 4 - PALO ALTO CALIFORNIA - The Edge 5 - SANTA BARBARA CALIFORNIA - Coach House 6 - SANTA ANA CALIFORNIA - The Galaxy Theatre 7 - LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA - Whiskey A-Go-Go 9 - SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA - Brick By Brick 11 - PHEONIX ARIZONA - Mason Jar 12 - LAS VEGAS NEVADA - Drink 13 - REDONDO BEACH CALIFORNIA - Club Caprice 14 - ANAHEIM CALIFORNIA - Boogie>> Voivod's 4/4 show in Chicago will be broadcast on the web at www.jamtv.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:19:30 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ryan Park) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: LTE Review Message-ID: Jon Parmet wrote... >> Maybe it's because the interplay between Portnoy and Petrucci is so strong that >> this feels like a Dream Theater album at times. > >Is it me, or does this album sound NOTHING like a Dream Theater album? >:) Yeah, ok, it's got some identifiable drum/guitar licks, but aside >from that I just don't hear DT in there. Rudess and Tony each have their >own sound far apart from anything I've heard in DT. Even JP/MP explore >many new things on the disc. I think they all fed off each other and >went places that are far from where DT lives. I think they meant to. Well, it sounds a LOT like other DT albums to me. It seems that Mr. Shirley mixed John Petrucci so high that it's very dififcult to hear the other musicians. (Well, except Mike.) I'm not sure whether it's my stereo or the CD's mix levels, but it's almost impossible for me to hear Tony behind the rest of the band. It's also not easy to hear Jordan, except when he's soloing. Or, it may just be perception. Both John and Mike have a very unique sound, and when listening to the CD, I immediately recognize their sounds and think, "Oh, that's John [or Mike]." I'd probably do the same if I had heard anything with Jordan or Tony on it. So it may just be me . Also, I generally skip "Three-Minute Warning." Yes, it's very cool, and amazing considering it's the first take. But I like the rest of the album better, because they have far better melodies, "orchestrations," etc. My 0.02 cents, Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:36:23 -0400 From: Jaime Kimpton To: email_address_removed Subject: Henry Rollins Message-ID: At 11:38 AM 4/6/98 -0700, Al wrote: > If anyone, and I mean *ANYONE*, regardless of age or whatever, > has a chance to see Henry Rollins do a spoken word performance, > DEFINITELY GO!!!!!! Don't question it, don't do anything - just > pick up the phone and get a ticket. I'm wholeheartedly seconding (or thirding or fourthing?) this. I saw a spoken word performance in September 1996 in Norfolk, VA, and it was just absolutely great. While I have a couple of his spoken word CDs and books, which are great in their own right, it's just all the better when you're there to actually see his facial expressions and gestures. You WILL be on the floor laughing yourself silly. This I guarantee. He's the rare kind of individual that can convey the emotion of whatever he's talking about very well; he's very descriptive, colorful, and BLUNT. His shows are not for the weak of heart or mind. ;) I met him after the aforementioned performance, and he's a very nice guy. He has a very commanding presence, but very cool -- he's just as witty and spontaneous up close as he is on stage. I still have vivid memories of standing in front of him when all of a sudden, his hand snapped out and snatched me by the jaw while describing a scene he had done in a movie with Dolph Lundgren. That startled the hell out of me, for sure. Jaime the (yes, I'm still alive, believe it or not) Dragon, making one of her thrice-annual posts. :) --------------- http://members.aol.com/sundrachen/index.html "When the child was a child everything was full of life and all life was one. And I pity them as angels do...." -- Wings of Desire ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: figures... Message-ID: Damnit. I am here while DT tours in Europe. In a few weeks I will be in Europe, and DT comes back here. Then when I come back here, DT goes back to Europe. AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! (At least I got to see them in October) sorry for the rant Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:09:16 PDT From: "Neal Brown" To: email_address_removed Subject: Everything Message-ID: >>but Metallica is too off topic? Blow me. > >You would only want me to. That's so gay. *sniff* damn I love this mailing list. =P I've been loosely following the discussion between the guitarists about tone for the hell of it. I have absolutely no idea what any of it means, but I've always been fascinated by stuff I don't understand (sorta like the freakout borrowed subdivisions in Light Fuse...). Then along comes Bafu and...I laughed. Hard. I'm sure that was even funnier for Ptacek and Co. ("I am the law!" heh heh) One time while I was drunk, I tried to sing Under A Glass Moon. I'm a drummer. I have a stereotypical drummer's voice. I had objects thrown at me when I tried to do the falsetto in the chorus. Big, heavy objects. (I can hardly get above middle C, let alone thirteen octaves above it the way LaBrie does.) >Hey drummers, what do you think about this whole "playing drunk >thing?" Never tried. I think I could do pretty well with comparatively simple, improv-based stuff, especially if it was something like head-solo-head jazz or blues or straightforward metal, etc., etc. Anything beyond an intermediate level would probably be too much for me--I'm talking like psycho stuff like DT, or just weird time sigs in general, or anything with a lot of stops and starts and syncopation like some of DMB's trickier stuff (Drive In Drive Out comes to mind--think you could do that end section while a bit sloshy?), etc. I refuse to be drunk for a n important gig though--I mean, if we're just fuckin around at somebody's birthday party or something, that would be one thing. But a real gig? No way. >Wed. May 13 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL. >Fri. May 15 - American Theater - St. Louis, MO Happy happy joy joy...happy happy joy joy... Chicago's a long way to go, especially if I'm going to be workin that week...but downtown ain't. Yay. St. Louis Jammers....can we organize a thingie of some sort before the St. L show? Perhaps stop in at Blueberry Hill or Fitz's prior...heh heh. >Anacrusis Sound The Alarm Screams And Whispers Merlo, you rock...Division is their best cut though, IMHO....now THAT would be a helluva song to cover...whatever happened to them anyway? >I've heard quite a few people say that a good solid drummer is hard >to find. I've heard people say that too..."man, we can never find any decent drummers to play with"...I think it's partly because a lot of musicians have this attitude that the drummer is just there to go wham-wham-wham on 1-2-3-4 and keep the time, and so a lot of drummers never develop beyond that ability. And so they don't have any technical ability at all. Drummers aren't encouraged to develop their own sense of identity, the way guitarists are. I mean, have you heard any albums consisting solely of drumset? Plenty of em out there with just guitar....I realize that many drummers probably couldn't even take an hour of just percussion, but you get my point. I try to play everyday, just doing at least 30 minues of sheer improv by myself and then some exercises for another 15-30 minutes. If you can't work yourself into a groove in five minutes of freedom, you'd better go back to the woodshed. > And I think that it's because of a drive and determination >factor. The truth is, to be good at what you do takes giving a lot >to gain a little, and drums are no different than any instrument in >that respect. There is also a lot of the physical aspect involved. >I remember a time about a year ago when I stopped playing for about a >month, and when I got back behind my kit, my legs and ankles started >wearing out pretty quickly. I never did that again. To constantly No kidding. You can't ever stop practicing. >with. Now I'm getting antsy,really ready to see this show. The thing >that really kicks is that the date for St.Louis possibly, is the same >week as my B-Day,now I'm really ready to have some fun,and what band Shh. DT was supposed to play St. L on 11/18/97...would have been my 19th b-day....*sniff* so they play Chicago instead...*sniff* I realize this is an incredibly long post as it is, but lemme recommend Bruford Levin Upper Extremities to all of you. Very, very good stuff. Not as "groovy" as BLS...less melodic, more experimental. Weirder instruments. Weirder polyrhythms from King 5-over-7 himself, Bruford. (Drummers, get this, and listen to the first track. It's in 4, but Bruford doesn't care. Absolutely psycho polyrhythms.) Enough. This is too damn long. Metallica's gay. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:18:05 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metallica over and over again Message-ID: You know, as far as this thing about metallica goes, go ahead and blast them for saying the same old rehashed stuff, but that happens in mailing lists often. I'm on a football mailing list that always turns back into how bad my team drafted last year, same shit, different day, but often, different people. Not everyone has been on this list since it began, and see a topic, and just want to voice their opinion, whether it's fresh or rehashed. How many other topics on this group have been told over and over again??? It's attitudes like yours that make me uncomfortable about asking questions about DT, for fear that someone like you may fuss about it being old stuff that people are tired of...just let people talk man...we're all jammers and we have stuff to say...good or stupid...:) Jon Kretschmer said: >Read it again. In the process of saying I was tired of reading the same >old shit about Metallica, I was NOT implying that I didnt want to see new >material posted. Im not sure where you got that. And I didnt object to >them being brought up, I objected to the same rehashed thread being brought >up. Two completely different things. -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:29:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Philly Show. Message-ID: in case of a San Antonio TX concert date: Is any San Antonio jammer willing to do this kind of thing? Mauricio On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Syrinx wrote: > > Hey, gang. > > I'm (once again) going to do a weird thing. For those of you who > are travelling from out of town to come to the philly show, lemme know. i > might be able to have accomodations (ok, a floor) to sleep on at my > place. you'd have to bring the sleepstuff, but you wouldn't have to pay > for the room. If you're interested, and depending on how many people ask, > leme know - and arrangements can be made. > > - mike. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > email_address_removed / email_address_removed > erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:40:55 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" To: "Ytsejam list" Subject: Another Rock Star dies in car crash Message-ID: UK radio this morning (tuesday) is reporting that Cozy Powell (50) died in a car accident on Sunday night. Besides Emerson, Lake and Powell, he's remembered (by some of us) for also playing with Rainbow, Whitesnake, Black Sabbath and also for his big UK hit single 'Dance with the Devil' - now that could only have happened in the 70's!!! Charlie Work: http://www.servemode.co.uk/ URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3714 **************************