YTSEJAM Digest 3707 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3703 by "Richard A. Rivera" 2) Re: Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors) by The iban 3) Rush CDs For Sale (Wave 1) by Lobsterback 4) Blind Guardian by "Alex O'Connell" 5) Re: Winger by The iban 6) Lesson in Guitar Tone by James Thorpe 7) Symphonic rock (again) by Phil Carter 8) Re: Monsters of Rock in Milan by email_address_removed (Ryan Park) 9) His Royal Moshness by KEZCOM 10) IF by email_address_removed 11) pist-off by email_address_removed 12) gay, drunk by Tom Cox 13) Dream Theater in Pordenone Italy, April 2nd 1998 by Sebastjan Videc 14) Re: Guitars by Carlos Alfaro 15) EMG`s by Matej Grginic 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3704 by Jon Dery 17) Anybody in Pordenone last night??? by Simona 18) APSoG Video (NDTC) by John Dea ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:08:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3703 Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > > > (Don't jump on my back, Richie, I love Winger too). :) > Me, too. Has anyone else heard his new acoustic Winger/solo hits cd? > It's really good. The US version is called Made by Hand. The Jap version > is called Another Way and has a bonus track. Actually, Winger has never been one of my favorites. Every album has a three or four good songs and the rest is filler. Too bad, because with the musicianship in the band it could have been so much more. And I've been looking for Made By Hand, but this is Vermont so of course no one has ever heard of it. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:58:45 EST From: The iban To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Cancel my subscr... (sorry, that was the Doors) Message-ID: In a message dated 98-04-03 14:44:40 EST, you write: << 've had enough. The homos on the list can take their lifestyle to PRIVATE e-mail. In the meantime, I'm leaving. Go on with your puny little lives. I'll see you in hell. :-) The next e-mail that goes out is an unsubscription. >> yea well i'm sure you will be missed..... Rocky ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:11:47 -0500 From: Lobsterback To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush CDs For Sale (Wave 1) Message-ID: Pardon the NDTC (my usual)... I've got the following albums up for grabs, all by Rush: A Farewell To Kings Fly By Night Grace Under Pressure Hemispheres Hold Your Fire Permanent Waves A Show of Hands Signals Now, I must warn any prospective buyers that these are *not* the remasters. In fact, that's why I'm selling them. Still, they sound good (just not anal-retenively good), and I'm asking only $5 a piece, shipping included, with 'bulk discounts' if needed, for 'em. So it ain't a bad deal... To anyone interested, please E-mail me. But act fast. Any that don't sell in a few days, I'm shipping off to Cellophane Square (they even bidded on 'em already). Brian "Grandmaster Crap" Henderson =========================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: email_address_removed ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ =========================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:10:25 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" To: email_address_removed Subject: Blind Guardian Message-ID: Kevin Madden blathered: >>Ok, I thought it was time someone touted Blind Guardian, as I haven't seen their name here in awhile. If you thought "Imaginations from the Other Side" or "Somewhere Far Beyond" were great, but wondered if they could actually deliver live, the answer can be found by purchasing "Tokyo Tales," a live cd recorded during the "SFB" tour. I am pretty amazed listening to this. They do the studio work proud, yet make a new experience out of it at the same time. End of spooging sales job. >> I was more than happy to see the name of this band mentioned on the list again. I happened to go to the page that what's-his-face, that German dude, posted (btw, WHAT IS THAT URL??? I tried to get back there again, and couldn't find it, and it was a kick-ass page, in any case), and downloaded a couple mp3s of their newest CD that were there. I am now sufficiently in love with this music to be lusting after CDs of theirs, particularly this last one, Twilight on Middle Earth.... I think. Somebody else had problems with the title. :) In any case, just had to blather onward some more about them, and if anyone has any info about the new CD, or if any European jammers could get it for me or something, that would rock my world. Email me if this is the case. Laters! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:13:11 EST From: The iban To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Winger Message-ID: In a message dated 98-04-03 23:12:15 EST, you write: << > > (Don't jump on my back, Richie, I love Winger too). :) >> huhu, stuart likes winger huhu.... another oneline post from Rocky ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:20:12 -0800 From: James Thorpe To: Subject: Lesson in Guitar Tone Message-ID: <01bd5f80$f6203380$0100007f@localhost> Man, its cool to be back on the Jam again after a long absence. by Chris P. >I absolutely believe that the right touch on the strings, and the >right finesse mean more than the guitar or the amp, or the venue, or >the haircut, or the pick, or anything. A good guitar and a good amp >compliment a musician, but the music comes from the musician, and if >you can't make it sing, then no amount of cash is going to fix that. >Becker and Friedman recorded some awesome stuff on Hurricane guitars, >and the guitars they used, seem to me to be complete crap! Think >about it. This is a lesson I had to learn after a good number of years. I was in search for the mysterious Becker tone. I talked with the X-bass player for Cacaphony Jimmy O'Shea who's in the Sac area now. He had practiced many many times with Jason in the rehersal studio and feels that it was totally Jason not the gear. The Carvin amp/guitar sounded like crap to Jimmy but when Jason played it, it sang. Not too long ago, I asked Steve Fontano (producer of Perpetual Burn) about Jason's sound. He replied simply, that it wasn't some studio trick, gear or anything. It was totally Jason. So I think I covered as much ground as I could in finding this tone and its something that is unique. The major lesson is don't worry about the gear, just worry about learning to play your instrument first. Gear is second. Well....a close second. :) >EXPLORER'S CLUB's debut is yet another superstar project under the album >name Age Of Impact. The record features the core unit of drummer Terry >Bozzio (FRANK ZAPPA, UK, MISSING PERSONS, BOZZIO LEVIN STEVENS), bassist >Billy Sheehan (TALAS, DAVID LEE ROTH, MR. BIG), MAGELLAN keyboardist Trent >Gardner and guitarist Wayne Gardner. Guest spots include from DREAM >THEATER's John Petrucci, James LaBrie and Derek Sherinian, YES' Steve >Howe, JAMES MURPHY, CAIRO's Bret Douglas, ROYAL HUNT's D.C. Cooper... Can't forget Matt Guillory and Matt Bradley from DALI'S DILEMMA. Matt G is trading solos with John Petrucci on this one. >The answer is simple: You never, never do. Further, I don't know >anyone who is satisfied with a single amp for a long period of >time, no matter how good other people think the tone is. I know I'm >gonna hear a great Bogner soon, and just toss my current rig out the >window. I'm selling my Boogie gear very soon. :) King of Clubs--Paul Gilbert April 21 Dali's Dilemma-- Summer '98 peace, --james-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:31:02 -0500 From: Phil Carter To: Liquid Tension Ytse Subject: Symphonic rock (again) Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... After seeing my list of "keys/rock" songs, KorgX3 remarked: >What? No Savatage? They're like the epitome of keyboard blended rock. >Methinks Edge of Thorns and Jesus Saves would be good examples of such. So >would most of the Dead Winter Dead album. I've only two of 'tage's discs at present, DWD and Streets. I would probably stay away from the songs on those because the growly vocals would probably turn her off some. I'll have to rethink it though, most of DWD is very orchestral and I hadn't remembered it for some reason. Not "Christmas Eve/Sarajevo 12/24", though; that's just not fitting except 'round Christmastime. :) On a related note, I'm looking forward to picking up "The Wake of Magellan" this upcoming Tuesday. This has been a great year for new discs already -- new Satch, LTE, new Glass Hammer, new 'tage next week, new Buffett two weeks after that....and we're not even four months into the year yet! Ta, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Fates Warning -- "No Exit" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:36:35 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Ryan Park) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Monsters of Rock in Milan Message-ID: <19980404053307578.AAA346@ryan-park> As Volodya wrote... >Hello, Jammers! >This year Monsters of Rock in Milan, Italy will feature the following >bands : >VAN HALEN, DEEP PURPLE, DREAM THEATER and G3 (JOE SATRIANI, MICHAEL >SHENKER, ULI ROTH). And Angra to be confirmed. >Looks good. I say that we petition to bring this to Milan, Illinois. With a population 3,000, Milan is on the outskirts of the "bustling metropolis" known as the Quad-Cities. (Population 300,000). Milan is an upbeat village with a sixteen-theater movie complex, a Subway restaurant, and railroad tracks for entertainment. And it's only three hours from the nearest major city (Chicago). As far as a venue... Milan has a former drive-in theater, now an abandoned parking lot, which would be the perfect venue for a show like this. And, it's only a fifteen-minute drive from my house (as opposed to Milan, Italy, a fifteen-HOUR flight). Who's with me here? Let's show Van Halen, Deep Purple, Dream Theater, Satriani, Shenker and Roth that MILAN WANTS TO ROCK!! :) (Hell... if Dream Theater ever plays the Quad-Cities, I'll put y'all up at my house... ) Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:25:49 EST From: KEZCOM To: email_address_removed Subject: His Royal Moshness Message-ID: In a message dated 98-04-03 19:43:36 EST, you write: << And your stupid one line posts saying everything is funny is not funny... -The Doc >> Thank you Mr. Mosh. I appreciate your honesty, and in the future, will consult YOU FIRST before trying to comment on the comedic value of a fellow poster's thoughts. There. Is three lines enough? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:54:20 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: IF Message-ID: >it has a fair amount of 80's cheese injected into it, that's all. In my >opinion, it's not enough to kill the song, but those not used to James' Oh, yes it is. That megacheesy chorus is only half the problem, too. What about the intro, which I'm pretty sure was sampled from a 90210 episode? The rest of the song is great but the damage is done. It's so much easier to just skip to voices, which is once again, the absolutely positively best song ever. All the morons who say shit like "Oh, huh-huh, Dream Theatre(that's how they'd say it if they could), they're like, so gay, with all that 80's glam crap. Why don't you like real music, like 311?" And of course I want to try to explain that DT isn't anything *at all* like 80's glam crap, but then CiaW ends and I hear that damn intro. Doh! The photos on WDADU don't help either, but that's excusable because that was '89. I swear to god, everytime I hear that intro, I can a VO in my head saying, "Next week, on 90210...brenda gets a back-alley abortion! And David whines!" josh rasi2290@splava .cc.plattsburgh.edu What, you got a problem with 2-line email addresses? Deal with it, jerky. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:57:05 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: pist-off Message-ID: Date sent: 4-APR-1998 02:57:00 ............................................................ Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:36:46 -0600 From: Tom Cox To: email_address_removed Subject: gay, drunk Message-ID: Some of these gay posts are REALLY staring to be gay. Of course, I LOVE women, so I guess I wouldn't know about that... Hey drummers, what do you think about this whole "playing drunk thing?" I've had a lot of guitarists get kind of irritated with me, because I can drink a lot with no apparent effects to my playing ability. Why? because half of it gets sweated out. Of course, I wouldn't want to start playing DT while sloshed off of my ass, I've noticed that sometimes it becomes very difficult to count farther than four when I'm drunk off my ass. Actually, I try not to count when I'm drunk, because that just gets confusing. I just got home from a gig earlier tonight (this morning), and GOD, is it great to play out... To any of you St. Louis 'Jammers, I live about an hour or so from there, so if you're interested, cantact me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 13:03:37 +0200 From: Sebastjan Videc To: Ytsejam Subject: Dream Theater in Pordenone Italy, April 2nd 1998 Message-ID: <35261389.3E5B3084@uni-mb.si> A brief review! Got there around 1h before they opened, picked up tickets that were waiting. Waited some more before they opened the gate. The crowd was quite culture, peaceful. The actual place was called Pallaca de lo Sport, or something like that. Since I'm not Italian I don't know the exact spelling. It has around 5000 capacity and sits on the sides with auditorium in the middle in front of mix stuff. The lights were cool, red, yellow, blue, violet and green I think. I wore my YTSEJAM shirt and I think it was unique. Most of the audience had AWAKE, I&W, and shirts with only MAJESTY logo. There was marked a special guest on the ticket and it was the Ruddes Morgenstein project. Anyway, they played for around hour and a half, and it was a really great experience to hear these two. The only thing that bothered me was the sound. It was very muddy, maybe because of the place, but I think it could have been mixed better. The bass drum didn't had the attack it's supposed to, but anyway... A great experience from RMP. A friend of mine was impressed. After the RMP the crew cleaned the stage(Rod Morgenstein had his drum set) and began preparing the stage for OFB. It took them around 30 minutes to do so. Then the lights went out, and A Change of Seasons had begun, with Petrucci on white and black Ibanez. Anyway I don't have the time to write evrything here, but I'll qrite some more about the sound they had. I stood around 5-7 m from the stage and I didn't hear keyboards, only on some ocassions. Also, bass wasn't recognizable, it was there alright, but... Guitar was superb, also drums with the same thing about bass drums as with RMP. Between two songs when there was silence, I heard Myung's stage sound and it was very well defined, crispy, so I don't know what did the mix man do. This is all for now from me. Enjoy, Sebastjan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 07:34:16 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Guitars Message-ID: Uroborosss wrote: > Guitar bodies. Chris 'suckbird' Ptacek wrote, "I find that the wood means more > to tone than the paint job or lack thereof." > > Have you ever played a guitar with a body made of metal? Along with the dozens > of other theoretical fantasies I have about music, one of them is a guitar > made of aluminum, or chrome. If you get a Musician's Friend catalogue.. you can find an aluminum electric guitar.. called "aluminator" made by a company called Rogue....theyre butt ugly.. and go for $699 In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:56:30 +0200 From: Matej Grginic To: email_address_removed Subject: EMG`s Message-ID: Hello jammers, Some of you were wondering about EMG pickups. It`s a matter of taste I guess. But I assure you that they`r not lacking warmth or dynamics or anything some claim they do. It`s all up to you to bring the best out of them I suppose. If one`s a lousy guitar player it`s the easiest to bitch about pickups. I have a custom made guitar (www.sever.si) and cause I wanted hot screaming pickups, I put EMG`s in it. The `85 humbucker works splendid for me in the neck position, great singing sustain, and clean sound with a little chorus/reverb is just amazing. I chose `81 humbucker for the bridge position. It`s extremely hot, very easy to overdrive most amplifiers. Screaming harmonics pop out of this sucker in no time. It sucks for clean sound though, If u use bridge pickup with clean alot get 85 instead, much fatter. I have SA singlecoil in the middle position, but don`t use it very much, the middle position works only in combination for me. But the SA is very straty clear sounding which sounds pretty good with some clean stuff. I guess it all depends on amplifier alot too, but so far my EMG`s worked perfectly for me, except with a Marshall amplifier, if u`r into natural tube crunch, u better go with some passive pickups instead (DiMarzio would be the best choice in this case for me). Alot of people I know use EMG`s with Mesa Boogie amplifiers and even with TriAxis and they`r very satisfied with the sound. `81 sounds shitty for tube crunch (too thin), but `85 is much better. - Matej (My sincere apology if u think that this doesn`t fit on this mailing list) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 10:15:17 -0500 From: Jon Dery To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3704 Message-ID: > On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Jon Dery wrote: > >Actually I'm thinking about starting a petition for a petition-free > >ytsejam. It's old, people. It's just silly to churn out a petition > > each time we get greedy for a new album. > > Grow a sense of humor. Did you read the rest of that post? It was > ridiculous, and involved people sending testicles to Elektra showing > how dedicated we were. C' mon. If you took *that* seriously, I have > a bridge in Brooklyn I wanna sellya. > > --Matt Grow a brain. He was serious about the petition. When the testicles part came up he was just jokingly restating how strong his desire was for a live album. DTC: I'm going to see DT at an outdoor ampitheater in August (Great Woods in MA)! They're opening for DP/ELP so they'll only get about an hour, but the thought of seeing them in that environement has got me considerably *psyched*! Jon Dery ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:11:13 +0200 From: Simona To: Ytsejam Subject: Anybody in Pordenone last night??? Message-ID: <35265BA1.7343@tin.it> Hello everybody, now I can say: I WAS THERE!!! Eh, eh, eh... Very very cool. When, on Monday, sold out was declared I thought "Ehy girl, kill yourself... nothin' to do this time"... Well, I spent 4 hours by car just to get there and I dare sayin' it's been worth. When I finally arrived, I couldn't even make a step that a man asked me "what the hell are doing all this people right here? who is gonna playin'???"... "dream who??? Never heard of them. What kind of music..." ehm, I turned my back on him and left him among his hopeless questions... I had a concert to go to! ...Not many people tellin' the truth, but pretty good... Opening: Jordan Rudess & Rod Morgenstein... ah guys they work! Show: oh... all I can say is... WOW!!! Very amusing one... Oh yeah! Aftershow: I could not believe it!!! I met them! Or better I met James, JP, Mike and (yes, he came too) John Myung. What a kind man! I have no words... they're fantastic people... just wanted to share this with you all... (thanx Marco, I know you're reading this...) Take care... Simo. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 98 10:16:50 -0600 From: John Dea To: "~YTSEJAM" Subject: APSoG Video (NDTC) Message-ID: Hi. Just watched the APSoG video, and I hate to say it, but I was rather disappointed with it. The song itself was incredible to see performed live. However, when I bought the video from CDNow, their Web site said the running time was 1 hr., 55 min. Either I misread that, or it was a typo. It was actually 0 hr., 55 min., i.e., they played APSoG, and that was it. I was expecting a bit more than just a single one-hour song. Was the music great? Absolutely. Was the video any good? Again, absolutely. Was it worth $17 for such a short tape? Not at the moment, but maybe I'll be more pleased with it if I watch it a few more times. Just a warning to anyone who hadn't bought it yet but was considering it... 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