YTSEJAM Digest 3637 Today's Topics: 1) Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? by "KorgX3" 2) LTE: hard to find by Jonathan Case 3) Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? by "Brian Hayden" 4) Ozz Fest 98 Line-Up by email_address_removed 5) Picks / LTE by Dave 6) Whoa! by "Aaron High" 7) thOught industry by Bernardo Pulgar 8) Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? by "KorgX3" 9) hhhhhhhmmmmmm,,,, ,,,,,,,aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh by "Aaron High" 10) QR Replacement Guitar Player by K I L L M A R Y 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3635 by email_address_removed 12) LTE stories competition.... by graham boyle 13) Winmailme DAT! and Fingerstyle by email_address_removed 14) Re: QR Replacement Guitar Player by Robert Linus Koehl 15) FInding Tensionous Liquid by Chris Oates 16) Sorry, and hello by Robert Linus Koehl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:51:48 -0700 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? Message-ID: <01bd4e3b$bb151540$message_id_removed> >As a closer, a bit of movie info. To anyone contemplating viewing >"Predator 2", I suggest either being very very drunk or lobotomized to get >the full enjoyment. Huh? I saw that like 6 years ago or so. Has Danny Glover in it. As I remember it was a really cool flick. But, then, I live in Idaho. heheh. First they circumcize you and then they tap your cranium with 1/8" drill bit. Maybe that explains my excitement. --KorgX3 apologizes for drooling on you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:26:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Case To: email_address_removed Subject: LTE: hard to find Message-ID: It seems as either folks can get LTE right away, or it's a pain in the ass. Unfortunately, I'm the latter.... I get blank stares (which I do from everyone), and it does or doesn't show up on the computer system. If it IS on the computer, then they don't have a copy or haven't even ordered one. Such is life. I ordered LTE at a Blockbuster (prices) music. I checked out the Border's here in Norman, OK, and they didn't have a copy (unlike everyone else's experiences : LUCKY BASTARDS!!) Well, I'm done with my griping for now. -Jon email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 23:32:30 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? Message-ID: First some news on the subject at hand. This is an article about Ozzfest that appeared in an eMpTyV news article today: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ozzy Taps Limp Bizkit, Foos, Pantera, Slayer, Others For Ozzfests Things are beginning to firm up for this summer's Ozzfest outings, which will include dates in the U.S. and Europe. The tour's founding father, Ozzy Osbourne, has just announced that Limp Bizkit, Sevendust, and Coal Chamber will be joining Ozzfest on its U.S. run. They will join a mainstage bill that already includes Tool and Megadeth. Another mainstage act is also expected to be announced shortly. Meanwhile Seattle fuzz metal heavyweights the Melvins will be on the tour's second stage along with Snot, Incubus, Ultra Spank, Kilgor and System of a Down. The U.S. Ozzfest is tentatively slated to kick off on July 3 at the PNC Bank Center in Holmdale, New Jersey, and is expected to run through the beginning of August. Tickets will go on sale mid-April, and an itinerary should be ironed out shortly. On June 20, Ozzy will take the Ozzfest to England for the tour's only European date which will take place at the Milton Keynes Bawl outside of London. The European Ozzfest audience will be treated to a bill that includes Ozzy, the original line-up of Black Sabbath, Foo Fighters, Pantera, Slayer and Fear Factory, with Coal Chamber and Life Of Agony among the bands playing the second stage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A lot of those bands really suck, but hey, it's worth it to see Ozzy and 'Deth. > But, then, I live in Idaho. heheh. "It's like talking to a piece of shit with two eyes." -Dave Mustaine on citizens of Boise, Idaho, who protested at a Megadeth concert, claiming that the band was Satanist. -Brian ******************************************************************************** "Alone and awake but exhausted I lie, oh how I hate the morning." -Peter Steele ******************************************************************************** Coleridge on IRC Web: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hayd0029 ASML Member Profiles: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hayd0029/asml/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:51:16 -0800 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Ozz Fest 98 Line-Up Message-ID: Ozzy --- back with Zakk!! Ozzy/Sabbath reunion --- doubt it Megadeth --- haven't heard Tool --- supposedly yes Korn --- no....I heard they're doing their own tour called "Family Values" with Limp Bizkit and Orgy AC/DC --- heard this rumor floating around last year as a possibility for this year. So in other words, fuck if I know! Oh yeah, and don't forget the other big tours.....Iron Maiden/W.A.S.P./ Dio/U.F.O./Yngwie..........and hairspray metal hell Warrant/Slaughter/ Quiet Riot/L.A. Guns!!!!!! Save your pennies boys and girls.....it'll be tour hell this summer!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:23:08 -0500 From: Dave To: email_address_removed Subject: Picks / LTE Message-ID: Lionel wrote: >>What???? now we have people talking about how picks can help your tone? >>Next they're gonna be saying "Hey! this new Guitar Strap gives me an all >>new comfortable feeling and guess what? I play better!" Who cares!?!!?? > Vince wrote: > huhuh, dumbass :) Many of us care. At least those of us that give a damn >about our sound care. ROFL! Nice comeback for the post hehehe. Someone asked a serious question about guitar picks, I responded with some opionions about what ones I like/dislike, then of course someone has to come along and whine about the fact that we're talking about gear and helping each other. Typical. Lionel wrote: >play..... that's all that matters.... so forget the mumbojumbo abt >plectrums and just play...... maybe with a little more practice, U'll sound >better than with a new pick! Maybe if you could come up with something valuable to post with something of substance, you wouldn't have to flame everyone elses posts. Although I agree that practice is most important, your gear, right down to the very thing you were ragging on, can shape your sound and style. Practice all you want, but unless you're picky (pun intended) about your gear and sound, you'll never develop STYLE. Guitarists without style are a dime a dozen. Vince wrote: >my electric guitars. If you really want some "scratch quality", go for the >metal picks. They're a pain in the ass to me, but I know a lot of people >that really dig 'em. Yeah Vince, metal picks are cool if you find the right ones, but they aren't for everyone. I met Brad Gillis and Jeff Watson from Nightranger back in 88, and they each use metal and they each gave me one of their picks. I took 'em home to check 'em out, and they DEFINITELY affected my tone DIRECTLY. Brads was a thin guage and dull, Jeff's was thicker guage and shiny chrome. BOTH picks made my muted 16th notes PUNCH out of the speaker with a crisper clearer "chug chug", and Jeff's made harmonic squeals VERY easily with a lot of sustain. The metal picks had a dramatic effect on everything from slides to the actual 'potency' of the lead notes. Who'd of thought!? (obviously not everyone) on to other topics... RE: Portnoys email address. I think this is a big step towards something very cool for us all here on the 'jam, and I hope that no-one ruins it by blasting Mike's e-box full of crap everyday. I am purposely refraining from emailing Mike in hopes there will eventually be more communication between him and us on here. I think if we let him see that we have some self control and won't overwhelm him, he may be more comfortable posting from time to time and maybe doing some chats just with 'jammers!!! RE: LTE - This CD is incredible. If you like instrumentals GET IT NOW because you'll love it! If you don't like instrumentals, buy it as a gift for a friend and support the cause :):):) Peace, buster http://www.dhpc.com/wdadu/ http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:27:03 -0600 From: "Aaron High" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Whoa! Message-ID: As for picks, if you pick up a jazz 3 and then pick up a Fender medium and you DON'T hear a difference in the tone you're fuckin' tone deaf. That's why I use two different kinds of picks. I use light picks on my acoustic (the guitar that earns money right now :) and I use 1.0 mm Tortex picks on my electric guitars. A guitar that earns money!? I gotta check into this. If you really don't have anything worthwhile to say, please keep the hole closed! I split with my last girlfriend because of this kind of nonsense rambling. How about some kind of discussion that's actually intellectually stimulating? Could'nt hurt, right? Well maybe some. I love conversing on subjects like music and guitars; but FUCK! Make it have a POINT! Who cares what gauge picks someone else uses? TRY 'EM ALL! If you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't. OOOOoooooohhhhhh!!! But you're Vincent "G" LuPone. Well, hell. I'm sure everyone on this list is dying to know what kind of strings you use, what side of the stage you stand on, what side of your mouth drips drool (or whatever else) while you're sleeping. Damn, I'm sounding mean. I'm not usually like this. I guess reading too much of these monotonous meanderings is GETTING ON MY FUCKING NERVES! Oh yeah,... try to be more creative than "Vinnie 'suck' Bone" in you're flames. Alright? Cool. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:32:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar To: email_address_removed Subject: thOught industry Message-ID: Hi. I've got thOught industry's 'assasins, tOads and gOd's flesh' and I want to sell it. E-mail me privately if you're interested. BP No Signature! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:35:53 -0700 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Re: OzzFest '98 line-up -- rumor? Message-ID: <01bd4e4a$45616880$message_id_removed> >"It's like talking to a piece of shit with two eyes." >-Dave Mustaine on citizens of Boise, Idaho, who protested at a Megadeth concert, >claiming that the band was Satanist. Hahahah. That's a perfect analogy. That's why I like living here. I'm at the top of the food chain. It's just that everything below me is inedible. :) And then you journey into Dietrich or Richfield. Yipe! --KorgX3 thinks Mike Bahr would agree. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:42:35 -0600 From: "Aaron High" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: hhhhhhhmmmmmm,,,, ,,,,,,,aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Message-ID: > As for the "420", there's quite another reason for it's use, > > and it isn't Mike's birthday, and it's much too illegal to talk > about. :) > > > > hahaha, i hadnt even thought about that, ...d'oh. Well, I still don't get it. Anybody care to e-mail me the real reason? I'm not easily offended, just in case... :-) ____ the magic dragon, Get it? Got it? Nope, I didn't think so. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:51:29 -0500 (EST) From: K I L L M A R Y To: email_address_removed Subject: QR Replacement Guitar Player Message-ID: Yo! I just read this on Shag's Screaming in Digital page ( http://www.scream.org ), and the fan club official Site ( http://www.queensryche.com ), about the new guitar player: >Some more hints to the identity of the replacement guitarist! ( I use the word replacement wisely! ) I've been allowed to say this, and only this: The guitarist is male, has a child, is not married, and is from the Seattle-land area! Okay, not much help, I know... more hints will arise in the next few days. It's also a good thing to note that the band has still made no determination if this will indeed be the "official" replacement. >The whole grunge scene was pretty good to him. >He'll help the band play "six degrees of separation" with Madonna. >He's actually more famous for stuff he did without his guitar. Well, I could be wrong, but the only name that comes to mind is the guy from Candlebox (I heard they broke up a few months ago) - one of the few guitar players that was in the grunge scene that could actually play... It would be cool if that was true. What do you guys think? also, from Woot: <> Lots of companies do. Actually the 90th Anniversary JPM100 Ibanez (John Petrucci model) has an ebony fingerboard (does the regular onehave it too? I woulnd't be surprised). I just tried looking but it looks like their web page is down - I tried 4 times. Only high end guitars have that, though. The cheapest would be a Carvin, but some people don't like their sound and you can't play before you pay (they're sold through mail order). You can ask Adam Cook (email_address_removed), he's got a Carvin and apparently loves it. I have a guitar that was hand-made to my specs before I left Brazil, and it has ebony in the fingerboard. It's tres sweet, and I think it's my best sounding guitar (I also have Ibanez, Fender, Charvell, Gibson), it's just not the greatest to play cuz it's a Les Paul type guitar and you know what that means neck-wise. I like the Charvell best overall (good sound, great neck - pau ferro fingerboard on bird's eye maple neck). My two basses also have ebony fingerboards. :-) I like basses with ebony and maple fingerboards. Rock on, dude. This has been brought you by KillMary, who asks why the hell do they have braille instructions in the bank's drive through. Take care all, Christian. ____ ____ ____ /\ /\ /\/\ /\ / / /\/ /\/ /\\ /\ /__/ / / \/ \__/ / / /___/ /___/ \\/ \____ /\ \ / / / \/ / / / / /\ \ // \ / / \ / / / / / / / / \___\// / / / / / /__ /__ / / / / / /\ / / / \ \ \ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ / / \___\_\_\__\\__\__\___\_\___\_\___\_\__\__/ / \_________________________________________/ "Kill her. That's all you have to do." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:18:22 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3635 Message-ID: > From: "Charlie Korch" > Subject: Watchtower > Someone on this list wrote: > > >A friend of mine insists that the singer for Watchtower is the guy who > sang > >for Dangerous Toys, while another one claims that he isn't. I don't know > >enough about either band to dispute this fact, so if anyone out there can > >clue me in, I'dbe greatly appreciative. > > The singer that was on Watchtower's Control and Resistance was not in > Dangerous Toys. He was from a Jersey City, New Jersey (USA) band named > Hades. My copy of Dangerous Toy's first album says "Jason McMaster" on vocals, and my Control and Resistance has a guy that looks very similar to Jason, with the same name, and an identically irritating voice (that I like). "Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller Chris Ptacek email_address_removed http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:43:53 +1100 From: graham boyle To: "email_address_removed" Subject: LTE stories competition.... Message-ID: Hehehehe, numerous recent posts about the difficulty of obtaining the LTE album have been boring me shitless, though they seem to be quite amusing. So I have decided the person who posts the biggest sob story, i.e who had the biggest hassle getting a copy will win a DT CDR boot from me, winners choice of course. The winner will be my decision, bribes most welcome :) graham P.S. They must be true and believable ! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:47:50 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Winmailme DAT! and Fingerstyle Message-ID: WINMAIL.DAT people: READ THIS! You have just downloaded a virus. Search your computer for the file win.ini and delete it at all costs. No... seriously... what it means is your mail program has read the message "funkily." There is an easy cure... READ THIS so you don't have to keep asking this question. Go through your mailer's options, and find "Show all headers" (Pegasus has it under the heading "Reader") This should make it so your program reads the winmail.dat correctly, and you'll see your whole ytsejam. I've already said this once, and Woot, I believe, said it before I did. so LEARN! :) > From: AlisOn Wonderland > You mean you USE a pick for accoustics? Accoustics were born to make > ALL of the fingers of BOTH of yours hands bleed until you can show off > some neat calluses. If you don't finger pick from the start, it's a rough deal > learning it, but it's SO worth it! Accoustics with a pick makes it sooo > harsh compared to the more mystical elements that come with running your > fingers over the strings. Wow... well that's a pretty myopic view. :) If people really followed with that, Eddie Van Halen would never have been discovered... "The fretboard is for your left hand! Use the pick, not your finger!" I guess I wouldn't be practicing any of those psycho 8 finger chops that some of you pretend I have, either. :) Even my favorite acoustic master does both pick and fingerstyle (Hedges, RIP, I miss the hell out of ya). Classical guitar was initially for fingerstyle, but some of the precursors of the acoustic guitar I believe were plectrum instruments. Either way, it doesn't degrade the quality of one or another. Fingerstyle offers you a great deal more flexibility in what you can actually orchestrate, while picking offers you the percussive realm that guitar often ventures into, as well as a greater precision in high speed playing (16ths, 16th triplets, etc) As far as ease of learning... no, I disagree. It's no harder to get into fingerstyle playing at any time... in fact, if you spend 10 years playing pickstyle and you want to go fingerstyle, your left hand is already going to be very capable... you just have to master your fingerpicking technique. It's not like you just choose one road and have to walk all the way back the way you came and start over in the other direction. Everything is very interrelated. If you want to hear some beautiful acoustic playing, all pickstyle check out DiMeola. He makes some of the most dynamic (read: Not harsh all the time) music with an acoustic that you will ever come across. Check out Passion Grace and Fire or Friday Night in San Fran (Paco DeLucia and John McLaughlin also play on these, and Paco is a flamenco guitarist... harsh fingerstyle. :) "Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller Chris Ptacek email_address_removed http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:47:20 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Linus Koehl To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: QR Replacement Guitar Player Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, K I L L M A R Y wrote: > I just read this on Shag's Screaming in Digital page > ( http://www.scream.org ), > and the fan club official Site ( http://www.queensryche.com ), about the new > guitar player: That's odd. I just recieved word that they had broken up and disbanded. Appearently, they got dropped from EMI because their last album didn't even go gold. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:03:05 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" Subject: FInding Tensionous Liquid Message-ID: I also had no trouble. Local Blockbuster didn't have it, so I went over the Hill (from Santa Cruz into San Jose area) went to CD Warehouse, and found it under "L" in their "Progressive Rock" Section. CD Warehouse rules. :) ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:53:09 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Linus Koehl To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Sorry, and hello Message-ID: Hi, Sorry about not signing that last post. It was my first post to this list. I just signed on yesterday, and didn't really intend to "delurk" untill sometime next week, but that post jumped out at me so I responded, and accidentally sent it to this list whe I intended to send it to the person who posted it. Now, to introduce myself. My name is Robert, and I'm a rather new Dream Theater fan. I just bought my first DT album a few weeks ago. Since then, I've bought them all except for "When Dream and Day Unite" which I cant seem to find anywhere. If anyone could fill me in on the "history" of this band, I'd appreciate knowing a bit more about them. Why did their original keyboardist quit? Why was there a four year gap between the first two albums? If any of these questions are on the faq, please forgive me for asking again. I DID try to get a copy of the faq, but was sent an error message when I tried. Talk to you all again soon Robert ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3637 **************************