YTSEJAM Digest 3464 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Does this bother anybody else? by "@@Damon Fibraio" 2) DT Easter CD by email_address_removed 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3463 by "Richard A. Rivera" 4) Kansas by Bernardo Pulgar 5) re:loss on Playsation? (no DT).. by VAIMAN 6) Testament, Disincarnate (NDTC) by Scotch 7) Re: metal boners by "Dale R. Newberry" 8) Extra Ticket for Tokyo Show tonite by Eric Persson 9) Re: DT in St.L/Klank by "Dale R. Newberry" 10) Improvising by "Nick Giannotti" 11) Re: Kansas by Matt Johnston 12) Echolyn by "Jason Birzer" 13) re:loss on Playsation? (no DT).. by Matt Johnston 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3463 by Rogerio Brito 15) Holy shit! by Bernardo Pulgar 16) Aussie Jammers read this - Mark Zonder on JJJ by bj reurich 17) What's YOUR priority, bub? by "Paul W. Cashman" 18) Shared Birthdays by "Larry" 19) Misc by Devs0432 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:34:03 -0500 (EST) From: "@@Damon Fibraio" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Does this bother anybody else? Message-ID: I need to add some comments to this thread. A producer's job is to make the songs better. Now, most producers don't understand or care about the musical ability behind things. The producer is supposed to help the writers make the songs the best things they can possibly be. In Lines in the Sand, there was some trimming of the intro and for me, it seems to workj. I also like the different keyboard sounds from the fix for 96 version. However, I like the original Burning my Soul better than the one on FII, and I love the one on FII. I guess it's a matter of taste. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Easter CD Message-ID: So...... anyone out there know when I will be getting my DT Easter CD? Oh wait, that was supposed to be the Christmas CD! Forgive me, but time does lapse when something never arrives. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:43:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3463 Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > I agree 100% here, I think that the more notes and key changes and time > signatures that DT can cram into their songs and still sound great, the > better. > Look at LTL - one of the coolest songs on I&W - thank god that there were > no 'subtractions' from this. Actually, I've always thought LTL could have done w/ a little trimming. But it's still an incredible song. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar To: email_address_removed Subject: Kansas Message-ID: >This might be true of when he was the only vocalist and frontman, but on >the last tour, Robby Steinhardt is back in the band, and taking the >frontman position. Although they pretty much split the vocals, Steve >was >in the back behind his keys the whole time. The performance was better >with Robbie back, than the previous 4 times I've seen them without him. Is Robby really back in the band??? Yippyyyyyyyyyyy! Can you tell me who's playing in Kansas now? Can you tell me where can I find the Kansas official web page? I've never seen them, and they're one of my favorites. Kansas still kicks! Eric Rodger wrote: >Also, I've heard that John Arch was officially offered the position, but >had to turn it down. Does anyone know why John Arch 'had' to turn down this offer? I like the way he sings in Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian Bye BP _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:23:06 -0500 From: VAIMAN To: email_address_removed Subject: re:loss on Playsation? (no DT).. Message-ID: > >Date: 14 Jan 98 12:01:42 -0800 >From: "Neil Evans" > > >From: "Neil Evans" >4. Hardware companies like Sony usually operate on a loss in hardware sales >($149 for a Playstation) and make up for that with software sales (not that >I'm crying for Sony - they are kicking ass right now). What?? You have to be kidding me? I would almost bet it cost Sony $40-$70.00 to manufacture a Playstation game system. Take a loss? As in a "loss-leader" (i think is the correct term), for a store to get business in the door? Just some thoughts. see ya todd s \\|// (o o) ---------------oOOo-( )-oOOo------------ email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:36:09 -0400 From: Scotch To: Delirium Tremens Subject: Testament, Disincarnate (NDTC) Message-ID: If anyone out there has Testament's new CD "Demonic" and a scanner, please email me. Same with Disincarnate's "Dreams of the Carrion Kind." Thanks S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:43:03 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: metal boners Message-ID: > Magellan's "Test of Wills" rules. Trombone and metal -- who'da thunk it? Two great things that go great together :). Dale R> Newberry "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak." "The best way to save face is to keep the lower part shut." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:44:29 +0900 (JST) From: Eric Persson To: email_address_removed Cc: Paul Humm Subject: Extra Ticket for Tokyo Show tonite Message-ID: Hello Jammers, I still have one extra ticket for the DT show tonight at the Kousei-nenkin-kaikan. I will sell it to YOU for a discount. Please contact me at email_address_removed by 4:30pm JST (I am not a subscriber to ytsejam,sorry.). Eric Persson (The folling is Japanese, not jibberish) ----------------------------------------------------- 今夜のドリームシアターのコンサートのチケットは1枚余っているんです。 割り引きで買って下さる方はいらっしゃるんでしょうか？ 私はystejamのメンバーではないから御連絡は4時半まで直接 email_address_removedに宜しくお願いします。 エリック ピアソン ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:53:27 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT in St.L/Klank Message-ID: > Just a thoght, since I don't get to see them in concert at least > until the middle of the year, maybe. I just hope they stop off in > St.Louis Damn straight. I've been wanting to see them ever since I've been listening to DT, and every time they've been to St. Louis during that time, I haven't been able to make it for some reason. I did come close to the Chicago show recently, but couldn't swing the cash. Speaking of St. Louis, if anyone digs some of that heavy as stink industrial (kinda in the vain of Fear Factory), Klank is playing at Cicero's in the U. City Loop Jan. 22. If you dig that stuff, I highly recommend this show. I'll be there. Dale R> Newberry "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak." "The best way to save face is to keep the lower part shut." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:07:32 -0500 From: "Nick Giannotti" To: Subject: Improvising Message-ID: Marc van der Wal wrote, >I don't really understand this comparison, because I think every player >can improvise. It's just that the better you can handle your instrument, >the better your improvisations might get Depends on how you view improvising. I'm a bass player, and I can improvise a fill just fine, but if you ask me to improvise a whole solo, I turn from a solid bass player to a gibbering ball of flesh and pain. Then again, I don't think bass players should solo in the first place... but that's just my opinion. -Nicholas "Anyone who believes in psychokineses, raise my right hand." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:15:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Bernardo Pulgar wrote: >Eric Rodger wrote: >>Also, I've heard that John Arch was officially offered the >position, but >>had to turn it down. >Does anyone know why John Arch 'had' to turn down this offer? I like >the way he sings in Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian If I remember correctly,John had schedualing conflicts, and decided to "leave" (if he was officially in, I guess he left... ^_^)... But I could be full of it... If I am... don't tell me. I like thinking I know something ^_^ >Bye >BP > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > --Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- "..." --James LaBrie, "Hell's Kitchen" --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:14:30 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" To: "The Jam" Subject: Echolyn Message-ID: >My question is this: would anybody who has the cabability be >willing to make a CD-R of the Pre-As teh World Echolyn disks? There was a place that was selling copies of "Suffocating the Bloom", which is where I got my copy. I think they were called "CD Treasures". Can someone on the Jam help me out here? As for the others, Syrinx might be able to help. He was very close to the band. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." email_address_removed Rush - The Spirit Of Radio -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:38:07 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: re:loss on Playsation? (no DT).. Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, VAIMAN wrote: > What?? You have to be kidding me? I would almost bet it cost >Sony $40-$70.00 to manufacture a Playstation game system. Take a loss? >As in a "loss-leader" (i think is the correct term), for a store to get >business in the door? That might be true (manufacturing)... however! To sell to the chains, the manufacturer needs to sell the machine at far below retail so the chain can make *their* profit. Trust me on this one. Usually the discount is 50-60%. Thus, it probably costs Sony 20 bucks to make the system, which they sell for 40-50 bucks to Toys R Us, who sells it to us for a paltry 150 bucks ^_^ > > Just some thoughts. > Food for thought... > see ya > > todd s > > > --Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- "..." --James LaBrie, "Hell's Kitchen" --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:09:49 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3463 Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Richard A. Rivera wrote: > Actually, I've always thought LTL could have done w/ a little trimming. > But it's still an incredible song. HELL *NO*!!! I need every single hundredth of second of it!! In fact, I love the longer version the were (are??) playing of LtL. > Richie []s, Roger... P.S.: And the longer version of "Metropolis" is better also, since it has "One" included. :-) P.S.2: Do you people remember that I said I found a new radio station here? Well, it is the station of my dreams. Yesterday they played a program called "Conexao Progressiva" (translating, it is something like "Progressive Conection" and it is, of course, meant to play progressive music). Guess what?!? They played 4 (FOUR) hours and a HALF of progressive music. They even played a long Yes song (I think it has almost 20 minutes) called "Gates of Dellirium" (is this correct???) and the DJ said it was from an album called "Relayer". Well, they also played a song called "Erpland", from an album called "Live Underlusky" (I think) by those guys called Ozric Tentacles (WOW, this is a very beautiful song!). Summarizing: I think that I don't need CDs anymore. :-))) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:14:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar To: email_address_removed Subject: Holy shit! Message-ID: >>i don't post much, but i enjoy keeping up on all the DT stuff. anyway, >>i was checking out the recent bio on the DT website. as it turns out, >>i share the exact birthday, January 24, 1967, with John Myung -- ain't >>that cool... and, as a matter of fact, my name is John as well. >> >>that's it. thought that was a cool "holy shit" moment. >Yeah, arent those moments great? Im an avid golfer and I learned about a >year ago that I share my birthdate with Tiger Woods. >I am Tiger Woods. Hi. I was born at 12:00 between Dec. 24th. and 25th. and this is not bullshit. Now, this is real "holy shit" and I think you'll agree! I'm sorry there is no DTC here. Bye BP _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:31:52 +1100 From: bj reurich To: email_address_removed Subject: Aussie Jammers read this - Mark Zonder on JJJ Message-ID: Attention Australian Fates Warning Fans - I just heard on the radio that Mark Zonder will be on JJJ (national radio station) giving an interview to 3 hours of Power tonight (fri) at 10 o'clock! *happy day* I'll be listening, and I'll keep everyone else posted if he mentions anything interesting. that's all Zajk Oh yeah ... last night I picked up a Queensryche vid "Live In Toyko" at a clearance sale - $6 **double happy day** NP Saviour Machine - Legend Part 1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: What's YOUR priority, bub? Message-ID: True, Priority Mail is not too much different time-wise from regular first-class -- although the target is 2-3 days, they're careful to add it is NOT guaranteed. $3 for up to two pounds isn't bad at all, though. The big difference is that the Post Office kindly provides the mailing envelopes (or boxes) free, and the standardized packaging and labelling makes it easier for them to process. When I begin shipping Superior's new CD later this year (for US customers who'd like to order it "from the band," as it were), I plan to offer Priority Mail service either as an option or as standard. -- Paul W. Cashman | Listening to the city Whispering its violence email_address_removed | I set out watching from above ICQ #4151223 | The 90s bring new questions New solutions to be found Dream Theater --> I fell in love to be let down ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:34:16 -0500 From: "Larry" To: Subject: Shared Birthdays Message-ID: <01bd2248$c446b5c0$5a8bb8cd@amd-k6200> Dan McCormack wrote: >And contributing to the shared birthdays thread (cuz you know i'm just a >little trendchaser), i have the same birthday as Albert Einstein, Well, this thread beats the knock-down-drag-outs going on here lately! I should be a helluva singer, since I share my birthday with Bing Crosby and Lou Gramm. And I am, too, if you happen to enjoy the sound of frogs croaking. I was born on Bing's 50th birthday. I think Lou was 5 that day. Not sure - he never calls . . . But I'm most proud of sharing the birthday of one of the most famous musicians in the years 2018 - 2050 (or so), the wonderful Melody Portnoy! (May 2) Hmmm - if that comes true, she'll become famous "When I'm 64". hehe I think Mike would approve (no -the OTHER Mike), Ytsefart the Elder ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:06:45 EST From: Devs0432 To: email_address_removed Subject: Misc Message-ID: >By the way, how can I purchase a NHL jersey: Canada National Team No. 94 >Shanahan ? That ain't NHL, buddy. And I have no idea how you could get your hands on one... anything linked up to the Olympics will be mad expensive, and jerseys never come cheap. Try some really huge sports store. >Got an open question to any Manowar fan, since I would consider myself >somewhat of a novice regarding Manowar. I was jamming to their Best Of the >other day, and I was really getting into their song "Herz Aus Stahl". It >sounds like German, and I am guessing that it translates to "Hell Of Steel", >since that's the title of the compilation. :-) Well, I don't know much about Manowar, but I do know German. Herz aus Stahl means, literally, Heart of Steel, not hell, but that's ok, only a minor error. :) Yes, d'oh! it is German. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3464 **************************