YTSEJAM Digest 3439 Today's Topics: 1) James Smokes??? by Dan 2) More on TD, then I'll shut up by Phil Carter 3) The Way It Used To Be - Lyrics by Michael Kizer 4) Top 5 CDs of 1997 results by Jonathan Case 5) Re: Letto: Bitching and more.... by Rogerio Brito 6) Re: James Smokes??? by Rogerio Brito 7) Meet me at the coffeeshop by "Toni Maki" 8) TD by email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) 9) Re: Tate/smokin'/etc by Adam 10) HY single by Michael Burstin 11) Kindness beauty and truth :} by DragynLMC3 12) DT 'persuasion' by "Woolcock" 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3438 by Brian Larkin 14) rank spice and the bad ole commercialism by Devs0432 15) Portnoy plays with me. by "Eddie the Flying Gimp" 16) Transcription of Keyboard interview with Derek by PhReEkY dEeK ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 17:47:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dan To: email_address_removed Subject: James Smokes??? Message-ID: Maybe this could be one of the many few reasons for the decline of his powerful voice???? Later, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 17:39:47 -0500 From: Phil Carter To: Keeper of the Seven Ytses Subject: More on TD, then I'll shut up Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... One more thing about Tangerine Dream, then I'll quit (for awhile, anyway)... Coldfire remarked: >BTW....some of you may realize that Tangerine Dream has been in the >movies. That's a bit of an understatement -- they've appeared on the soundtracks of at least twenty films, and have done the entire score for several including "Firestarter," "Legend," and "Dead Solid Perfect." Just to clear that up...:) Cheers, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Rush -- "Signals" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 15:29:45 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: Ytsejam Subject: The Way It Used To Be - Lyrics Message-ID: Well, I can't decypher all of them, but here is the bulk of them. If anyone has a keener ear than I, I would appreciate any help on these before I put them in the song book. Mail them to me direct, Thanks. The Way It Used To Be (07:48) - James LaBrie In the city once again I'd give anything To be back home safe and warm inside I can't stand the crowds Or the smell that surrounds me The ??? Take me back so I can see The way it used to be I lay down and learn to dream Unlike anywhere I've been All is ??? Then I'm falling to the ground And I'm lost in what I've found Can't stand the sounds no more Take me back so I can see The way it used to be The way it used to be Lift me from the water Too cold to swim Bring me to the land Lift me from the water That I see within Bring me to the land Radio waves splash in my head To the rhythm that I crave The radio waves relive the moment Seems like yesterday Take me back to ??? Then I'll sit at the edge With my feet in the water Take me back as the sun fades away Break down the walls so I can breathe Lift me from the water Too cold to swim Bring me to the land Lift me from the water That I see within Bring me to the land Lift me from the water Too cold to swim Bring me to the land Lift me from the water That I see within Bring me to the land The way it used to be The way it used to be Lift me from the water Too cold to swim Bring me to the land Lift me from the water That I see within Bring me to the land Lift me from the water Too cold to swim Bring me to the land Lift me from the water That I see within -- ~Michael Kizer Home Page / AZ Concerts Mailing List - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw Dream Theater "Unofficial" Song Book - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/dt ~Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 17:19:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Case To: email_address_removed Subject: Top 5 CDs of 1997 results Message-ID: TO whomever compiled the results of this survey you did at the end of 1997, could you send me the results via private e-mail? I haven't been in ANY position to keep up w/ the YTSE's lately! Thanks! -Jon Case email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 21:26:34 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Letto: Bitching and more.... Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 email_address_removed wrote: > > AAEAAAA7AAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIA > > > > > > > > AAAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20AU01UUAB5dHNlamFtQGF4LmNvbQAAHgBEAAEAAAAPAAAAeXRzZWph > > > > > > > > bUBheC5jb20AAB4ASQABAAAAFgAAAEJpdGNoaW5nIGFuZCBtb3JlLi4uLgAAAAIBTAABAAAAOwAA > > > > > > > > AAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29tAFNNVFAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5j > > Oh, now you're just being funny, aren't you? No, Eckie, it's his quadruple spacing signature. [ ] s , R o g e r . . . -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 21:31:35 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: James Smokes??? Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Dan wrote: > Maybe this could be one of the many few reasons for the decline of his > powerful voice???? "So try another daaaaaaargh!!aCOFaCOFaaaay!!" - James LaBrie, Japan Pay-Per-View Video []s replying with one-liners, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:31:20 +0200 From: "Toni Maki" To: Subject: Meet me at the coffeeshop Message-ID: >By the way, James smokes!! I met him once in Amsterdam (the day of the >MELKWEG concert) in Amsterdam in..... a " cofffeeshop". This doesn't surprise me. If I've understood correctly when asked "Do you use drugs?" the guys answer something like "well not any hard drugs anyway".( This is second hand info. Don't flame/blame me) Hmmm... What were you doing in the coffeeshop anyway? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 18:03:32 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: email_address_removed Subject: TD Message-ID: Hi all, For the ones who talk about Tangerine Dream. If you like the real TD , please start with albums in the 70's (Electronic Meditation, Phaedra , Rubycon, Ricochet, Stratosfear, Cyclone, Force Majeure...) Alpha Centuri is different from what they have done. Try to avoid their soundtrack albums. Have fun, AE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:23:24 -0500 From: Adam To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Tate/smokin'/etc Message-ID: ]From Phil... :) >No less a great singer? Well, the fact that he smokes makes him "no less a >great singer" -- YET. This is the first thing I've read about KJL smoking >at all, so I'm glad to know that it's not a full-time thing. I wouldn't >give a damn if he smoked or not -- let him do what he wants! -- except for >the fact that smoking absolutely RUINS the vocal cords. I don't want to see >him end up like Geoff Tate, whom I am sorry to say I like a lot less these >days. That's right. If he smokes alot he'll be hatin' it. Not so much with pot, b/c you don't go around smoking 20 bowls a day (well, most people don't) like someone who smokes a pack of cigs per day, but in general smoking will quickly reduce your endurance. Range is another story. I smoke fairly heavily but my range gets wider and wider as I practice. It's interesting you take Tate as an example. He's been smoking for a little while, not his whole career, and on this most recent tour (except when he got the flu and had to start cutting shows) his voice has been better than it has been in the past 5-6 years. He hasn't tried to hit the high notes in "Take Hold" in years, but he was able to hit them and hit them well (for the most part) in the HITNF tour. Likewise with songs like "Walk in the Shadows." Now, if they could just put out a decent album... :) ---------------------------------------- Adam Pye email_address_removed http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone ^^ Above URL for tapelist w/ setlists... ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:03:02 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: HY single Message-ID: well, got my Hollow Years single the other day... Lets see, first off, the radio version of HY... don't realy like what they did to save time... one of the biggest problems is that there are lyrics that don't make sense... they cut out from the middle of one of the verses right into the middle of another one... (think its "carry me to the shoreline" right into "maybe you'll understand" in a later portion of the song), it just causes some problems with the song... but I guess they figured that they needed to cut down the length... its at least better then the eMpTyV cut of TTT. You Or Me... well, I have a slightly different opinion than others of this song... Musically, I like You OR Me better, but lyrically, I think that You NOT Me is better... there are some lines in the lyrics that don't seem to flow as well as they do in YNM... (I never really didn't like YNM that much, though). TWIUTB is pretty cool... I need to get some more of the lyrics, but I do like the sound... has a sora U2ish sound (saying that again, I thnk the same for Speak To Me) -- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: email_address_removed Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 00:47:07 EST From: DragynLMC3 To: email_address_removed Subject: Kindness beauty and truth :} Message-ID: hi all! ive been offthe list for a while (with my boyfriend far away from myputer) so this is the first time ive been able get back on the list and email in, soi have no idea what is the current choaking thread :} anywayi was reading some mail when i saw a quote from Albert Einstein,,, The ideals which have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth. -Albert Einstein Am i the only one to find that really kewl? Did DT know this quote when they wrote LTL or is this just amazing coincidence? D-man? anyone else? ~Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:15:03 +1030 From: "Woolcock" To: "YtseJam Mailing List" Subject: DT 'persuasion' Message-ID: Last night I made a 'persuasion' tape - a tape full of DT songs, which I'll lend to people to try and make them a DT fan. I was wondering what other people would put on their tapes (90 min). Here's my song listing: Side 1 (42:16) ----------------------------------------------------------- A Mind Beside Itself: Erotomania 6:45 Voices 9:53 The Silent Man 3:48 Burning My Soul 5:29 Hell's Kitchen 4:16 Lines In The Sand 12:05 Side 2 (44:22) ----------------------------------------------------------- Lifting Shadows Off A Dream 6:05 Metropolis I: Miracle & Sleeper 9:30 Pull Me Under 8:11 Wait For Sleep 2:31 You Not Me (debatable) 4:58 Trial Of Tears 13:07 Now to see if it works! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shane Woolcock - email_address_removed.au WWW - http://rampage.ml.org/sector1/~samah/ "Lifting shadows off a Dream once broken She can turn a drop of water into an ocean" - DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:17:42 -0500 From: Brian Larkin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3438 Message-ID: At 02:59 PM 1/10/98 -0800, Roger wrote: > In other words, I was *instantly* addicted to his voice. But, >maybe, telling that the first record that I listened to was I&W may >explain everything... His vox were definitely better on I&W . . . maybe he started smoking up inbetween I&W and Awake? :) Just kidding - although I would have liked to think a band like DT were all straight-edges . . . it doesn't really bother me. I just hope James's vox don't suffer. >"Imagine how a death metal band would play Ytsejam. That's it." I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing THIS shit, man. Eckie wrote: >And who are you to say that? Have you ever tried masturbating AND >playing the guitar at the same time? Some guitarists liken the two :) Alex wrote: >So many people diss Awake. That is my favorite complete album from The Most >Amazing Band. I don't get it. Just to clarify . . . I was IN NO WAY dissing Awake, just stating that James' vox on the album did not appeal to me right off the bat. Neal wrote: >P.S. Now that I mention Metro II...lemme hear the peanut gallery's >thoughts on this one. If M2's as "insane" as JP sez, I can't wait to hear it. Hopefully OFB will return to the studio ASAP to record that and whatever else they may want us to hear at the time. And, not that anyone cares, here's MY top 5 list of '97: 1. DT - FII 2. FW - APSOG 3. Testament - Demonic 4. B. Dickinson - AOB 5. Megadeth - Cryptic Writings cArPe DiEm, bRiAn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:29:06 EST From: Devs0432 To: email_address_removed Subject: rank spice and the bad ole commercialism Message-ID: >And b20AAB4ATQABAAAA yourself, asshole! Dream Theater has and always >will be prog metal! How dare you compare their capabilities to the >Presidents of the United States and the Spice Girls! Spice Girls are >better prog? What the fuck are you smoking? This world really is goin' >to hell in a handbasket. What more can I add? Any comparison to the Spice Girls is enough to make me sick. >Gee, Metallica isn't doing too bad in the charts right now.... Yeah, commercial success up the wazoo. Of course, as has been so avidly discussed here of late, commercial success doesn't equal quality in any way shape or form. Those two are still seperate, thank heaven! And the quality has been sadly lacking in Metallica since Load (of crap...to palgiarize :P). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:30:35 -0700 From: "Eddie the Flying Gimp" To: Subject: Portnoy plays with me. Message-ID: <01bd1e5a$6c978080$95e21ace@korgx3> >something like.. "here, lemme get on the piano.." and starts doing the >rest with petrucci??? You didn't pay attention to when he grabbed the guitar from JP then didya? :) heheh. He was actually showing JP how to play. hahahahah. As a casual observer confided in me the other day, "Dream Theater is probably just Mike's band." heheh. And even if it is, I couldn't love 'em any more. :) >The encoded binary attachments are the worst offense of all. Actually, I find them somewhat amusing. If you put yourself in the right frame of mind and lstare at them, a hidden picture emerges. Last night I saw one with furry little chinchillas armed with hand-grenades marching toward Saudi Arabia. >Mike Portnoy has and will always look great in pink spandex Hmm. I've always thougth James looked better in those tight, leather pants, myself. Washburn "Yut, duh, duh-da, ya-da-dah, dut, duh, duh!" - Derek S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 02:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: PhReEkY dEeK To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Transcription of Keyboard interview with Derek Message-ID: Since someone here asked for it a couple of issues back, I've transcribed Derek's interview in Keyboard. It's at http://www.wam.umd.edu/~lerxst/derek_interview.html for your reading pleasure. Anyone with a DT page can feel free to take this and archive it someplace more appropriate. Enjoy! - Ilya No bass, no peace /\ Know bass, know peace /\/ \ /\ /\ -- /\ /\/ \/\ \/\/ __o / \/\ / /\ / / / \/ / _'\<,_ / \/ / ..... \ .. (*)/'(*).. .. \. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3439 **************************